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now in the palm of your. call. egypt's military rulers say they're sorry for the deaths of almost forty demonstrators killed in the worst clashes since february. you're watching live pictures from the heart of cairo with piles and defiantly remain on tahrir square with public anger showing no sign of easing despite the general's apology. gearing up for another night of asses as tens of thousands are packing for yet the mounting up a minute to get down more from cairo interest at the moment. arab foreign ministers are also in egypt but in syria that's on their agenda as they threaten damascus with sanctions while france proposes what it calls
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a humanitarian intervention. and no plans to stop the reset of ties but moscow says it will pull out of the nuclear disarmament treaty in place walk it's only supporters if the u.s. goes ahead with its missile defense shield in europe our top stories this hour. international news and comment live from moscow twenty four hours a day this is r.t. good to have you with us this hour fresh clashes between security forces and protesters erupt in caro's tahrir square the focal point of egypt's revolution the opposition the country's military is apologize for the deaths of nearly forty protestors over several days of violent clashes with security forces however thousands in tahrir square say they're not satisfied and plan to boycott next week's parliamentary elections has more from. people said we are not going anywhere
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in addition to that we're not here with full fresh class and have spoken out there's been gunshots explosions and ambulances rushing past for the past few minutes now the chant of the tens of thousands behind me is the same that it has been for the past six straight days we want the field-marshal gone people hear us meaning the field-marshal of course the march on the town towelie the fate of the sixteen people full of the armed forces now it is today the military met with a full measure for the prime minister to come out our guns only and initial reports are that country has accepted the post as prime minister not yet able to independently verify that the thirtieth it is true his hands will be full with forming a new government before monday's parliamentary elections now country is a popular figure among egyptian people he was the prime minister from one thousand nine hundred sixty nine hundred ninety nine but he is also very closely associated
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with the mubarak era of course prime minister the mubarak was president and for that reason people here will not support his appointment but in addition to that people say it doesn't really matter who is going to be the new prime minister who will make up the new government they want the military to step down and thirty when the room is the first possible think about of the points and people had just started chanting louder that they want leadership to go now a not a concern as amongst protesters here is what exactly is the kind of tear gas that the security question i'll have been using and we're now hearing from each of the media much the same as you've been reporting earlier that the silk hat was a burning in the lungs the liver and the heart with many people here saying that they have that kind of says that inspired more than five years ago many people saying that this is a crime against humanity say so and say the ministry formally apologized for the
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deaths. protesters they say that they will receive this and that by the weekend they will have released eight people who have been detained at the same time the ministry we committed itself to caving parliamentary elections on monday but most people have certainly the majority of those that i have been speaking to asking the team meisters number one how can an election go ahead with this kind of violence on the ground and number three what kind of would just from the seat movies parliamentary elections have the irony of the situation is that la the arab league was missing here in cairo the furthest topic from discussion was the violence that was unfolding around them and the way some people have been using a double standard and the stuff you see the focus of an arab league meeting was what is happening at the moment in syria and they have now given damascus a good nine until one o'clock local time tomorrow and friday to respond positively to their proposal to send some fire hundred our servers to monitor how the government is dealing with and see government protesters now we has no indication
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at this stage from damascus how they will respond we have heard from the iraqi foreign minister who says a damascus more respond positively but if he takes only the arab league will need to gain on sunday and then they will begin the process of voting for sanctions and one they've been on has indicated it will not vote sensitively the signs are that the majority of the arab league foreign ministers in fact will give a nod now these sanctions include things like a ban on the travel of syrian officials saying two things like no more commercial flights to the country a halt to dealings with the central bank and also no more government to government trade the purpose of these sanctions is not to stop the violence that would be impossible but rather to put pressure on the assad regime for the game people saying that this is a double standard and how can the arab league need to kind of and not deal with the situation you see behind me although there are tens of thousands of people here in
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turkey. at the moment the focus now is on friday there has been another whole point eight million man march friday edition on the day when millions if not hundreds of thousands of people gather voice be the front man for big government exacting likely that if there's ever going to be a moment when a million egyptians take to the streets it could be this friday. paula slim reporting there while the arab league discusses sanctions against syria after months of violence in which three hundred thousand civilians have been killed by security forces france has become the first western country to suggest intervention on a humanitarian basis and for more on this we're now joined live by professor paul sheldon foote of california state university fullerton who's lived and worked in several arab countries thank you very much indeed for being with us now tough calls coming from paris does the suggestion to create humanitarian corridors echo what happened in libya when the no fly zone was imposed then actually be the first step on the way to
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a repeat of what followed there exactly the work so well and what were your friends wants to try to get. and by all accounts it was a successful operation by nato so do they think they'll have success there in syria i'm sure they think. they've already. turkey. turkey is providing safe military. orders for thirty by the turkish military or the free syrian army. to kill soldiers in syria it is already. formed. this is a repeat of the libyan game turkey is involved in both cases unfortunately but the dust has settled in libya after the war there and yet already flight france which of course we know played a leading role there is looking at this possible intervention does it really have the resources does it have the political appetite and indeed the e.u. support for another campaign like that. circles are certainly news
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a distraction from the economic disaster that is facing france is looking forward to graze in its debt very soon the european major recession is are coming if he wants to stay in power he needs something of this type to distract the people so they create complain about the economic conditions and perhaps perhaps draw another comparison with what happened in libya the syrian national council as it's called made up of the opposition is gaining international recognition with france calling it a legitimate authority somebody they can do business with negotiate with because parasite you know who these people ah well unfortunately paris has a long history of sponsoring. terrorist groups and other illegitimate groups for example the iranian communist. communist terrorists are headquartered in paris. whatever groups want to form some poised person has been a great historical poised to be protected by france. and what about the arab league
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clearly pressure not just from france now but also the arab league with these warnings of sanctions new sanctions against syria would that have any impact at all where it really has been a laughing failure throughout its history it filled to protect the palestinian people from israel it's failed to protect the bahraini protesters from saudi arabia and saudi arabia and bahraini government attacks failed protect the protesters in yemen it failed to prevent the attacks nato and some arab countries on libya. i can't think of anything that the league is done successfully representing europe interest since its creation. at the end of world war two and when you agree that it saps actually representing us interests rather than our of interests absolutely i think they should change their name. interesting to see that they're actually
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meeting now in cairo where of course we're seeing this latest violent crackdown on protests is there just how conspicuous cries absence is the fact that they're not discussing syria and they're not discussing egypt and indeed discussing syria. it's true. they would do the. image and everyone else in the world is totally stupid. too far off i mean there was a lot of oh. and if they can do it again in syria or and. everywhere else. when will they operate everything from who will stand up against. these. conservative. terrorists in america well just briefly finally we know that you've lived among the arab people in several countries clearly you're not impressed by what's happening there what is your feeling about the current situation with this so-called arab spring and the feeling
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for the future particularly with your knowledge all of you who we're talking about here. well i certainly as i was a professor for example for two years and all knowing and i knew my students well and i knew what their aspirations were and there are certainly a need for reform throughout the arab world but. i find it difficult to even make that statement coming from america where we support endless wars and terrorism and countries around the war where the american voters are speeding up the left leaders put us into financial distress so we do talk about reform so i think it will be for your first before i can even seriously think about whether reforms are needed in the world these folks are not attacking america or anywhere else. they're not they're nowhere near as dangerous as america is today in the world i'm talking about those reforms just briefly turkey's nine saying it aloud to create something
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along the lines of the e.u. it has a vision for the middle east middle east alone that some democratic lines the tekkie turkey's point of view do you think that has any weight in it whatsoever would would you think that is a valid vision for the future of the middle east. the turks have dreams of restoring the ottoman empire for centuries they ruled over the euro zone regarded the arabs as inferior. newer of the day is going to welcome the returns of turkish rule over them the turks are not even arabs anyway so as much as i love you know i've been there many times and will be people dearly i do know what the current leadership is one very interesting to hear your thoughts paul sheldon for professor kind of want to state university franks for your time thank you very much indeed. a new round of violence has flared up in the course of a survey a border with nato troops using tear gas once dismantling barricades put up by local serbs opposed to border checkpoints and representatives claim that the nato command in the breakaway province has broken agreements with them after promising
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on wednesday not to take unilateral action troops and right to return to remove concrete barriers and put up a pile of wire fence to restore control of the greatest condemn the nato movement of peacekeepers to act according to the un mandate to protect civilians for political and this little town of sitch says that nato is force in kosovo for cannot fulfill its mission and that's why local serbs barricades there is no doubt that nato has a legitimate presence in the whole of cost of all it's not a problem of whether they should be there and it's not a problem that they are the ones that are the only legitimate force that we should act upon such situations but the problem is that they are exceeding their limits and they are exceeding their authority nobody wants the fear all night at some barricade and. nobody have something better to do the problem is that people are really scared there are threats all the time there are incidents from girls being
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inside they are there are people getting shot there are all sorts of pressure and there is a great number of people especially from being inside in some of their for. in both in europe and even in serbia which are constantly threatening with the so-called croatian scenario and that is the worst thing that could happen. well coming up later in the program here in r.t. leaders of three biggest economies meeting in stride trying to come up with a remedy for the raging euro debt crisis but there's yet more division is their split over what role the european central bank should play. first moscow says it's not planning to hold the reset of ties with washington but is ready to pull out of the nuclear arms reduction treaty if the u.s. goes ahead with its defense shield plans in europe washington says it will not review its program despite russia warning that it could move its own offensive missile systems to its borders in response and he explains. person's reaction to the active development of plans for this missile defense shield in eastern europe
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came in the form of an announcement from president meets major where he highlighted five steps that the russian federation would take if the u.s. and nato don't reconsider their plans first of all activated immediately will be early radar warning stations in kaliningrad which is russia's most western enclave the country's nuclear strategic forces will be strengthened significantly pointed out that this needs to happen urgently are the countries strategic missiles will be fitted with advanced penetration systems and latest generation warheads and he's also notify the armed forces that a system needs to be developed that could destroy data exchange in the control systems of this planned missile defense shield if these steps are not enough the president pointed out that this would be russia's last resort. just each other measures are insufficient or that russia will deploy a contemporary strike systems in the west and south east in order to prevent further damage from the u.s. missile systems cloyd in europe the system of deployment of these kind of missile
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system in accounting region will be one such step if the situation develops in an unthinkable way russia will reserve the right to seize further steps are needed i mean to do so much and arms control. and expectable link between strategic offensive and defensive weapons reasons could emerge for russia from the strategic arms reduction treaty this is a vision within the content of the treaty the president pointed out once again emphasizing that he believes dialogue is the way to go and that cooperation is still possible it's not too late but promises are just not going to be enough russia needs legally binding agreements from nato and the us that these systems are not meant as a deterrent against that from the was so what are the same rhetoric that russia has been listening to for years again that this system is meant aimed against so-called rogue states like iran and north korea that it's not anyway meant again. russia that they do believe that russia and the west have separate systems from the
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representatives from the national security council we've heard that cooperation again they praise president has made a statement about further cooperation but also pointed out this is very important that they will continue to cooperate with that pursuit of cooperation will in no way be limited or changed or changed the plans for missile defense shield and then from secretary general rasmussen of nato we heard again praise for the statement on dialogue and cooperation but he say he's disappointed by president medvedev statement that it's not in the spirit of russia nato cooperation but again if you look at a map you will see very clearly that nato is rapidly expanding eastwards on russia's west a eastwards on russia's western border you have the united states and their bases all throughout the middle east and then up russia's eastern seaboard you have bases in japan and south korea so basically russia is being surrounded and it's pretty easy to understand why this is such a major concern for their national security. and i want to know how
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you think russia's warnings over america's missile shield plans will play out you can head to our website harty dot com and cast your vote if you believe it could trigger a new arms race opinion is split between those who think republicans only speeding up deployment and those who say washington will compromise and agree to moscow's demands on the research you think russia's objections will lead to europe saying no to the u.s. because your vote and r.t. will come. as the euro zone's debt levels continue to hold high france and germany say they will propose changing treaties to improve financial governance in the region is also a cause in chancellor merkel have been talking in strasburg where they're meeting the newly appointed italian premier but leaders have reaffirmed their commitment to the single currency in paris and berlin disagree on whether the european central bank should lend to euro zone states in trouble the idea of collective boring also remains a divisive issue by the technocrats in france but strongly opposed by the region's
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economic powerhouse germany supporters of the idea say it would help raise much needed capital for the debt ridden nations get a loan as opposed as it's korea cost would rise investment adviser patrick young says the eurozone needs someone able to make executive decision us. so the problem is first of all to go back to what we always keep hammering on a bike we really need leadership mr barroso is trying to push forward this idea of euro bonds amongst others ultimately also germany either has to decide that it wants to basically take away the ball and through a lot of other members out of the euro zone fly because they view them as not being worthy of being membership or they're going to have to essentially bite their tongue and they're going to have to come forward and do something with the marketplace and in some way find a solution the problem we have is you know euro bonds we were talking about those a year ago fifteen months ago but the difficulty has been all along the lack of
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political leadership and right now the. there is definitely a pope of all smell of fear in brussels over what's going on when you're in the euro parliament in the coffee shops the huddled corners are discussions about whether the euro was going to survive in any shift or form and hopefully that's going to be a calculus to see and i critique of leadership and i critique of governments and we will find a solution whether it's a collective euro bond or some other form of transfer that at least gets the market working again and the laws countries to borrow this crisis is like a pound demick of financial panic nobody really think you see if in the euro zone and that's why germany must come out and lead a euro bond is basically a case of putting lipstick on the pigs quite literally in every possible sense and of course the other countries who are currently shut out of the borrowing market or have to borrow it's very expensive or it's want to be part of a club where hopefully they will be able to borrow money and they'll be able to borrow it much much more cheaply than they can get it in their own right. and to
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r.t. dot com for more on the debt crisis marching through the eurozone but across the atlantic the u.s. has apparently found an unconventional way to save its own currency but some say could be behind the recent threats of a strike against iran's nuclear sites more on that story for you online also there . pre-schools one of the possible reasons behind the failure of russia's interplanetary probe for squint and suggestions is interference from an american research station in alaska. although that's all for me at the moment so i'll be back with a recap of our top stories in about ten minutes from now in the meantime marty talks to philip j. crowley is a former u.s. state department spokesman about the challenges that lie ahead for the people in countries where regimes have recently been toppled stay with us for that special interview and i'll be back a little later. and
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your times in the state department just how hard it was to explain to the people that the u.s. brings peace and democracy with its interventions as in and reality it brought catherine and destruction. look you know i believe earnestly in the best of intentions of u.s.
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policy a stable peaceful prosperous middle east is in everyone's interest there's no question that the united states with the best of intentions intervened in iraq in two thousand and three with route really understanding not only what was going to happen inside iraq we thought it would be easy inexpensive quick and those judgments were all profoundly wrong. understanding that that in in the intervention one of the big winners for some time was iran and a resurgent iran had implications within the gulf and across the lot broader region certainly was not something that united states wanted to see happen and how severely the u.s. economic problems undermine its ability to protect its power globally well you you project power in support of your national and international interests which
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includes. the economy so so that this is this is where it it's easy for someone who's running for president to say oh yeah let's let's break iran it's harder to then understand across the board will a military strike be successful. it's very difficult to see how a military strike it might retard an iranian nuclear program it is not likely to stop and. you also will a military strike. would that. increase the tension and fisheries that do exist within a. iranian society between the regime and the people who don't like the regime very much and what actually would drive you know the them closer together so you really have to look at this in a truly strategic way and that's why for the moment cooler heads recognize that the answer is political and economic pressure while leaving the
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military option there as a as an option but recognizing that that comes with very profound costs what are the prospects of this military i mean everyone recognizes the danger of iran going nuclear and it's not just about iran if iran crosses the threshold to get some nuclear weapon how does that change calculations by a saudi arabia a turkey and egypt someone else do they then. feel they have to have their own weapon you know everyone recognizes the last thing that you need in the region has some nuclear arms race we not withstanding the emergence of a park or stan or a north korea you've got many many countries around the world who know how to build a weapon of cho so not that that is the optimal you know stabilizing situation to think the u.s. is robust enough diplomatically and economically to manage the consequences of the turmoil in the arab states that's largely responsible for i don't think you can say
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that anyone today is managing what is a remarkable transition but these these transitions are evolving in very different ways you know country by country by country so do you think that the world should be concerned up the. islamic extremists coming to power in the so-called arab spring well i think that's that is a that is a longer term danger in the short term. these you know take take egypt for example there is an open process underway. a group like the muslim brotherhood that has said a long tradition within egypt and a pretty good political and social structure and those that are going out of the world will likely do very well in the in the upcoming parliamentary elections. i think what's very important is people in the region have to be patient if people
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become impatient and then become violent yes there are put is the potential that spoilers including a resurgence of al qaeda a lot of talk about al qaida being part of. uprising the revolution whatever you want to call it and libya will see i do think that libya has the ingredients to be successful even under cut off the it was a it was a society that was. seeing sort of. the real question is can everyone come together and see that lets him get elected in the state kill al qaida but there have been elements there have been individuals and small groups associated with al qaida that have you know that are in libya or have emanated from libya there's there's a very definite libyan strain to al qaeda. but but as an organized force i don't i don't necessarily use but the obviously hiding in the magreb is they are
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could they try to take advantage of a failure in the transition in libya absolutely could absolutely. wealthy british style. is not on the. market finance scandals find out what's really happening to the global economy with months cars are run no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause a report. that
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