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well that is no war zone that's the good ole us of a land of the free and home of whoever is brave enough to try to take on a militarized police force with tear gas tasers again sound cannons many police forces are now arming themselves with laffin spat on the battlefield so. now occupy los angeles protesters are getting a firsthand look at that police crackdown for many victim notice to an overnight raid police officers in california shut down the movement and the cover of darkness
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also limited media access. and as police in the u.s. try to curb the social on grass labor unions in the u.k. are rising up and what is arguably the largest strike in decades and millions come out all in a battle over public sector pensions so is it time for american protestors to take a page out of the u.k. of diets and social uprisings we'll compare. it's wednesday november thirtieth in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our. well over the past two months we've seen shocking video of police brutality directed at peaceful protesters from firing pepper sprayed of beating protesters with the times to launch and rubber bullets we're seeing image after image of police violently cracking down on demonstrators
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and then there is the overwhelming police presence warmth of officers decked out in riot gear have surrounded occupy wall street sites and beyond the local police homeland security has gotten involved in many cases i mean these images questions arise over the role of police officers today are we seeing a military as a nation of the police force are the correspondent on a stuffy a church going to take a look at how police tactics used against protesters have grown more fierce over the recent months. america's fight to promote democracy abroad looks like this. images like this get applauded but a similar uprising with a new west turns into a crackdown on that same democratic will. is the u.s. now in new work on its own territory against its own people for basically our entire history i'm a bit imperialist states i think it's only
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a matter of time before and serialism of brides are expecting individual liberties at home the methods being used to and civil disobedience in the us have been increasingly reminiscent of war time there is a lot of casualties so you could say it's a war zone peaceful students pepper sprayed while seated. demonstrating americans beaten until they believe what you're trying to do your veterans injured into unconsciousness our police forces have been militarized they are working more in cooperation with the pentagon there. and being given military surplus to quit meant that has been kind of designed for use in war and this is something that leads to treating the public as you would treat an enemy thirty seven year old lawyer and artist i mean the scene recalls his own arrest as if they're hugging me but don't make a move just put your hands behind your back and the six people jumped on me try to
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wrestle me to the ground they wrestled me to the ground and they just kept running me in the back. for about five minutes i mean says the only political right not cracked down on in the u.s. is the right to vote on election day everything else is even as a threat to the united states has created a space for people to shop for people to buy you know you know buy cards go on picnics and things like that but the moment that they're politicized in any way that's probably hundreds of arrests throughout months of occupy wall street demonstrations have shown the world an image of america not seen for a long time an image of forty seven tried their best to hide by demanding special credentialing for journalists covering demonstrations and evictions i b.c.b. press passes. as well as threatening to cheat me if passes away i. think we're seeing this pattern and it's very disturbing and
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a lot of reporters aren't seeing it because they're getting thrown out of the action and being arrested and this is something which is outrageous and so. police presence and aggression overwhelming like nonviolent protests since the patriot act was passed these used instances of violence to revoke liberties some of those have been part of the protests since day one see officials turn the movement into a civil war that we're going to show we source in the corrugated time straight national where the homeland security chose this coming from a federal model even with the use of militarized tactics on the rise those fighting for change are not planning to give up on their battle the police overreaction in the political reaction only emboldens us only strengthens our resolve and many are saying well we'll fight is yet to come and the actions of a dying regime become more aggressive and crazier and we're just going to see more of that two thousand and twelve will be the year the year of american revolution
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the aggressive vigor with which america's biggest protest years have been met has been the latest example. the fact that what the u.s. preaches is not necessarily what it practices only heeding the outreach of its citizens who wants the system to change. and to look deeper into this issue alternate reporter ron had college going now thanks for coming on the show rania so we're seeing these images of police brutality do you think police are growing increasingly violent in america are we just seeing more of these images because of the coverage of the protest. well it's not that police are suddenly growing increasingly violent it's in the past thirty years between the war and drugs and the war on terror we've been arming and training police in the same way that we. and it's only it only makes sense that at
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some point that seem the same tactics being used by the military would it. if you were and you know and we're also seeing this massive presence on the ground you know in some instances it looks like there is more cops than protesters especially when they were trying to evoke them from zuccotti park kind of look that way why is there such a strong response to these mostly peaceful protests. well i think it's because these protests pose a threat to the status quo i mean there's protests that don't pose a threat you don't see this kind of presence and you don't see this kind of brutality this is what happens i mean any movement that has grown large enough to really threaten the powers that be is treated this way throughout throughout american history i would say especially in the sixty's and seventy's of the civil rights and i were movements so we're just seeing a present day version of the way the power or the powerful people in power actually been and when business as usual comes under threat by to people and you know the
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role of police officers they're supposed to be public service servants and serve to protect the public do you think that our role is now changing. i think that really has been different for a while but it's not really consistent it depends where and what the circumstances are. police in the suburbs don't act the same way they act in let's say the inner city inner cities that urban areas are very militarized the strong police presence . whereas you know if you live in the suburbs we're generally the middle class and . there's not as much crime or poverty you know you see i mean the police are just you know pretty much there to write you know traffic tickets and you know break up break up parties so i think it also has to do with the social factors i think that the police are generally used. today or program to be used really to deal with america's social problems rather than you know whether it's addiction or poverty or
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the police or you know the ones that are sent to do the arresting in things that are getting brutal and we see in some cases homeland security's or the feds are now getting involved. with the what the department of homeland security in some cases we've seen has gotten involved so we're seeing the feds become involved in it and his crackdowns so i want to show you some of the machinery of local law enforcement you quit with these days take a look tear gas we see that used in the middle east in tahrir square that works by inflicting pain and literally making you tear out blindness occurs and some cases and next as what's known as the taser on steroids the albuquerque police department now have this and their arsenal so when police can't get close enough to their targets to tase them they can shoot tasers out of one of these bad boys and take a look at this vehicle it looks like something you would see roaming in the streets
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of a war zone maybe in afghanistan but this is owned and operated by the tampa police department. so randy can you talk about the difference between military and civilian law enforcement and what should separate the two and is that is the line becoming hazy or. well i would say basting that military in the military is there to you know we train them to fight our foreign wars we go there to kill the enemy rate so defeat the enemy police officers them please others are supposed to uphold the peace and hold the constitution while doing so so i think it's important to note though that what the military has been doing that the u.s. military is going to make of it in the world for a very long time now is very anti-democratic we send our military out to occupy it for various reasons and they're often suppressing so that's expressing democracies so it's only you know it it makes sense that eventually that's going to come home
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and now we see that the civilian police force is doing the same there are great things over here and you can have some ocracy at home and imperialism abroad a touch on his johnson so that it was harder you see that's just a factor as well as the hardware is the military is starting to be mirrored in civilian markers in civilian police forces and so you know looking at the bigger picture what does this have to say about what's happening in america are our some of our fundamental rights in danger our freedom of speech freedom of assembly for example well yes absolutely but again it is to ken's i mean over over the weekend when it was black friday you saw tents being put up great for people waiting to go shopping and there was riots in certain stores in wal-mart's across the country you didn't see police there to suppress the riots right but at occupy protests it's very different as there's a clear political message and it's large enough that it's people in power feel threatened so again it depends what kind of speech or talking about it. that nobody
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cares about it doesn't really matter that it's fine but if you are if you know if you're practicing your first memory rights but you're part of a movement that is like occupy wall street that you know once more quality months more fairness and powerful people feel threatened then the police are going to be used to suppress you. right here thank you so much for your thoughts on all of this now was alternate reporter ranya colic. and more police crackdown this time and los angeles early this morning police in fact that occupy l.a. protesters heavily armed officers tore down tents and arrested at least two hundred demonstrators and we're hearing there was an effort to ban the press from reporting on our fears that ramon the window was among those pushed out by cops he gives us a close up look at the chaotic scene. with the likud least.
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you know we still have several people sitting down in the middle of the city hall park here in los angeles occupy l.a. still showing solidarity with i was really good now look to across the board across roads excuse me where it seems like the government will find the shutdown now in the background we see that there are police in riot gear tearing down some of the tents we see several other officers also in right here some of them holding buttons some of them holding plastic ties rader take people into custody some of them other non-lethal weapons which they say they are ready to use on protesters protesters excuse me here they remain peaceful no one has risen armed so far earlier there were some scuffles but the situation is that there has been an order for dispersal they have also warned the media that if we do remain here while they are in force
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in their operation we are also subject to arrest now a very select few media have gone through mission to fail now we've been assured from the police that everything will remain constitutional and from their part on violence now we shall see in the morning whether that happens all the time being we are being ordered to leave within the next few lives or else we are also subject to arrest. or and. really moving we don't need to be pushed they are tearing down some of the comments up there some of the riot police in the hazmat suits are tearing down a. tree house that was left there on the other side we're seeing tents being torn down and still definitely a huge presence if you just swing by over here real quick there's the tempi shut down.
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there are several police officers as you can see tearing down tents tearing down makeshift structures kind of putting everything into piles what was once occupied los angeles is now being torn apart by officers which are in protective suits in case they run into some sort of chemical agents or anything like that now all the demonstrators today that we saw were peaceful that we saw a huge response we have gotten access to aftermath you see right now a major cleanup going on and once the sun like comes up we will see that entire city hall will be barricaded in order. so that the demonstrators in support of occupy wall street the people who have made this an encampment will not return now just one last look after nearly two months of occupying los angeles city hall occupy l.a. and it has been shut down and what we're seeing here is
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a complete tear down of the encampment we shall see tomorrow and in the coming weeks where the movement heads for now we're reporting here in los angeles. marty. now we're going to take a shower for it but you're not going to want to miss this attack sorry striking for a car for union employees in the u.k. . take to the streets so why can't american labor unions rally in the same numbers holding up the issue in a moment. when the low and he was told we're told that these women young people are suggesting she's older no she says she's a star. protests
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escalate in the u.k. and millions taking part in a strike today they're protesting slashes the public sector pensions over thirty labor unions from public health to tax collection have joined the movement much of the country now at a standstill as thousands of schools shut down and i believe that the airport simply walk out are to correspondent laura smith is on the ground in london. it started with twenty thousand people out on the streets of london present to get
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past the public sector pensions and it ended like base a small group of processed is from the ok by the london stock exchange movement of reports of people people like this building behind me it just seems that the reason they've got to fight is because one of the highest paid c.e.o.'s in the country what else numbers of police have turned out to protect the building and we hear that they're trying to get the occupy protesters out as we speak now we've seen a huge rally in london state's twenty thousand people turned out to protest against cuts in public sector pensions two million public sector workers have been on strike today that's the biggest strike that we've seen in the paper round about thirty years they've had a massive impact reports leave nothing out of ten schools in london what closed today the hearts of all schools across the country that meant that millions of parents have to take time off work that children childhood yet about with or to
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control that they're still going on strike that's meant to use that immigration i know there are reports today too like hospitals have been accepting emergency patients only and a huge range of people have been out of the strike teachers nurses doctors groups of doctors we've never been dowson strike before now we've seen more than thirty union support six days strike action which is a process of gates having to pay more into their pensions and working longer and receiving less money at the end of their working life but what they're hoping is that the government will sit up and take notice and go back to the table with the types renegotiate they still the chancellor george osborne has already said that the strikes going to cheat and i think david cameron's backs him up saying that they were down with if they have no impact then the people who've been striking say have said that they will strike again and they will strike a longer there's also been talk of the government saying constantly that it's got no money supply and since that at. time funding bailouts countries in the euro of
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which britain isn't a part i speak to alex kenny from the national union of teachers here he's that's certainly people we didn't play for the crisis we didn't think of the banking crisis and they bailed out the things i'm now working. with. we have an unprecedented thirty three taking action many of whom are going to tell you. just how strongly people feel about. the often not the strike. how many thanks but i guess this is destructive it's not going to take me to see if you'd like to see me strike. and that was our to his own laura smith with the latest from london and as we just saw the government in the u.k. wants workers to pay more for their pensions and retire later unions though are saying no way now unions certainly face similar challenges in the u.s.
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but we have got to see anything close to the backlash we're seeing abroad why not labor journalist mike elkins here to talk more about this thanks for coming on the show mike so why can't americans come together for a collective a day of strikes like we're seeing in the u.k. where i think the big issue that you look at here is that you know the response of american we've really been concessions that they're asking like that is not going to strike it's good to give in and accept shared sacrifice so i think the biggest problem is that we've got this kind of stockholm syndrome where we really do is are free to take on their captors a lot of the boxes employers public officials and so i think that's the first problem the second problem is obviously the laws are different in britain where they have a right to straight american labor laws britain doesn't have that much higher union rate in america. so yes the unions here are more restricted and they're right they're right strong. yes but even if they were not i mean there's ways to strike
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without that they're wildcat illegal strikes all the time in american history the issue is that there's simply an issue of courage and they're willing to do it and maybe talk a little bit more about why this is the case and what is contributing to that in my to the power of the u.s. i know that you've written about the federal government playing a role in that yeah i mean i think it's basically three factors that have contributed to the demise of organized labor in this country one is union busting work you know companies can fire workers illegally without any serious kind of you can the government too is outsourcing it's very easy to threaten workers in the private sector but the jobs new overseas and three is the incompetency of labor leaders. we have a labor movement it's supposed to represent the ninety nine percent but its leaders too often the late the one percent earning feed you know salaries of six figures that are if seen and not really just making decisions without any consultation the ninety nine percent of the members they represent so that's currently the crisis we
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have organized labor i think is a big one a crisis because if you look at the workers striking here the public employees nobody's threatening to move public employees jobs overseas public employees don't suffer the same time you are busting is that the public employees leaders in great britain are much more willing to take dramatic actions like strikes and well we are seeing a difference between the u.k. and the u.s. do you think it's possible for america to rebuild its labor movement and if so how can they do that i mean certainly throughout american history you know the lieberman has been similar workers in the one hundred twenty s. it was crap staff they were you know we're one they can do it but it really requires in my opinion a revival of unions that you know to really do a revival of organized labor we first have to kick out many of the incompetent labor leaders leading this movement. and in order to do that i mean we really have to get reagan found a micro c. so i think now we're at a moment where i think if labor can learn the lessons of occupy wall. which is to have democratic ownership of the institutions then i think we can really have
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a revival and i mean unions have supported publicly supported occupy wall street some of them have even come out in protest of with them but still we're not seeing anywhere near the the impact that we're seeing in the u.k. yeah i mean if you look at what's happened a lot of unions like sci you have seen occupy wall street they supported it and named its leaders got arrested but they're really seeing it as a social movement that they can use leverage to make a deal behind the scenes and they look at what sci president making henry did she got wrecked it arrested on the brooklyn bridge a couple weeks ago and then she went around and she endorsed president barack obama saying that he was going to fight against the elite one percent of the admin and i understand i mean they're still stuck in this corrupt mode of backroom deal making with other elites so i mean do you think that if they are the kind of use this energy from the occupy wall street movement that this could also be part of the labor movement yes i think in order to save the labor to rebuild it we have to completely we were
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a democratically controlled institution which it is not right now all right michael thank you so much for your thoughts on all of this that was labor journalist like outlook. well capital account is up next an r.c. let's check in with lauren lister to see what else on the agenda lauren it is we have a great show for you today acclaimed author jim referred to his latest book currency wars is making quite a splash he's going to be on our show in studio to talk about this latest news coming out from central banks six of them of course the federal reserve being one of them to make dollars available very cheaply and easily to european central banks to get to european banks that need cash cave people are calling is essentially a bailout for the euro we're going to talk about what this means in terms of global currency wars and the kind of the latest round of ammunition fired off by central bank lives and what else do we have to look forward to well of course with this as
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you know he's one that we get so much feedback from and so we're going to ask him those questions on air because a lot of people want more insight into his views on gold and precious metals so we are going to give our viewers a chance to get their questions in and we had some for our guest today great well we look forward to that that is the capital account with lauren lyster coming up next well that does it for now for more on the stories become her go to our c dot com slash usa and check out our used to pay just used to dot com slash r t america you can also follow me on twitter liz wall the capital account but lauren let's start is up next. fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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