five thirty pm here in the russian capital you're watching artsy your headlines now police sweep through the occupy l.a. camp arresting almost three hundred after big nordin of fiction order but the anti corporate movement that started more than two months ago is only gaining momentum now picking up support from the other side of the barricades. moscow says it can to ground a cause of and serves russian passports but will provide any aid necessary this comes after thousands filed a police for citizenship to escape discrimination than hostility from ethnic

albanians. iran faces further isolation as evil foreign ministers agree on more sanctions follows a mob attack on the british embassy in tehran that prompted london to order all iranian envoys to leave the country within forty eight hours. agreed to technocrats face their first hurdle with thousands or no walkout over a new pay cuts job suspensions and an emergency property tax while it's hardly an express anger at the enormous military spending that they say is forcing them to pay too much. more next year on r t on a global aids day i'll go off puts a u.n. official under the spotlight to ask what's being done to fight hiv. hello again and welcome to spotlight the interview show on our c m l doing all

event today my guest on the program is michelle c.d.b. . a charity is considered to be one of the biggest threats to the mankind well being the u.n. aids has put betting h.i.b. and aids on me and bush just west of the millennial development research i've been trying to find the cures for more than two decades but after all these years all they have is drugs that can slow the process not stock is the situation changes here's executive director of the usa and u.n. undersecretary general michel c.d.c. . says the most discovered in the early ages has killed more than twenty five million people according to the u.n. around thirty three million people are currently h.i.v. positive with almost half of them concealing work on where ok actually just

a michelle city babies one of the experts or believe that's my view should not only be forty hospitals but minds to not long ago the reaches for aids treatment but now seven million people take it all around the world and it's a great success of education and tolerance says to see the baby. who is the city didn't come to a show how i know how are you thank you thank you very much for being with us well well i know you are tired. pretty rough schedule so once again thanks for having the time it's my pleasure i'm sure you will be a thank you first of all i want to start with a compliment comic saying nice things to pick out for the last five years no ma'am . new cases of hiv infected people in more in their own thirty countries has dropped more than twenty five percent and aids connected mortality fell by twenty percent and what contributes to the it is good which is you know i have to just say

that thirty years ago we have to remember that this disease was a disease or of our stigma discrimination people were i didn't himself then it was a conspiracy or salience one of the major breakthrough was when we managed to break up this conspiracy or send us to make a political leaders so he would use awareness there were no witnesses so critical breaking conspiracy or sailors making sure got our political leaders who are really in this ten letter ha we could be a major major not only for the health of the people but also for the security and the stability of the world and i think when leaders who got to dismiss inch we went national harbor is social mobility with an activist they can to go to

ask for resources to make sure that we called the brink of a project tory of this epiphany and today your great michelle as far as i know you made the reduction of h transition from mother to child and one of the one of the priorities of your entire. entire presidency in the office so what has been achieved in this you know first of all is a very important to say that is not acceptable or that is in a twenty first century we still have our four hundred thousand babies born with hiv in africa and only enough rika when it's not happening in the rest of the world and we nor dad who's been one of them will die thirty. sons of them will day before their first better them then you know why is employment because it's possible it's not happening in the global north anymore we have the drugs we can really make sure

that the more votes or getting the mitigation then that then we can stop the transmission it's all saw value for the morning because it will not cost us. one hundred dollars to stop a transmission around her child i mean it's one hundred dollars bill says but in this child is born with hiv it will cost more than one hundred fifty thousand dollars only on treatment costs things. there is a girl even a promise i think in their year two thousand and fifteen there will be no more children were in with do you believe in it i believe i fought for the one we. put in place a global past in which a global past in produce a global plan and his global plan has been lunch and today we are seeing he usual from an i came from south africa south africa three years ago there were hugging

and love and forty two thousand babies born with me today they are almost close to virtually eliminate africa right now we just heard from south africa and believe me twenty two countries were most affected came to go over your developing accelerated plan to make sure that it will be stopped i was incentives were just two days ago and visited a clinic where the don't have any more good is born with. children a sword there which where our friend it will be positive where so healthy. it whether i'm going to be in this. whipping for foster families. well actually i was one of the pioneers are. starting to fight against each other was a young journalist i made the first ever television program how about hiv in russia and you know that it was very funny people people would let me use words like

condoms like vaginas you can see this were done now i said that how can you go to fighting it it's a j.v. well what about awareness to do is i knew the today you still are fighting fighting for example for. sexual education of young children so what is awareness of young children today plateaued and it wasn't back in the we nor you talk about prevention and evolution young people and induction of new information on these prevention revolution was led by young people why because that today the young people have been equipped we've left skins with information on we to help with them to negotiate their sexuality to be functioning and they don't want to be any more a possibility series of our actual we want to be act of change and i think using those school and making sure they have

a teacher or plain having it can help or them to end this then what that means being positive was a major breakthrough in of a prevention program so so so today i guess there's not so much also hypocrisy as we used to have years of twenty pounds because they have been exposed to so many tragedy seeing devore children growing with a t.v. necessarily because they were not having a communication so even if you told your kids about sex a bit closer to the end. you know disease because if you don't talk about your kids you know they will talk about sex somebody else is better for you too actually the spread of aids seems to have provoked a shift of attitudes even within one of the most conservative communities the catholic church spotlights you know the media has more. while the catholic church

plays a significant role in caring for people with hiv aids it's also been accused of contributing to the crisis because of its opposition to condoms during a trip to africa in two thousand and nine pope benedict the sixteenth so condoms could make the hiv epidemic worse a year later however the pull out in the light of the world of the use of condoms can be justified in very limited circumstances he came up with the example of a male prostitute using a condom to use every sperm infraction to aids activists the phrase appeared to be a turning point in the churches attitudes and though though the vatican eventually issued a definitive ruling saying that paul patton changed church teaching activists felt the door to greater dialogue was opened this event you can hosted a conference on the global fight against aids the meeting was said to be partly

prompted by confusion over the pope's comments on condom use and ha the program. and while the church is officials made little in the way of new concessions at the conference they demonstrated i read in a stew this past their position with their full names. or didn't want to discuss well known anybody his religious beliefs or who are all more more so you can try to hire somebody whose feelings but they don't you agree that worth a doc's religion session the catholic religion or the russian orthodox church or really islam can be really. problem for full fight with the especially in countries like in africa friends you know this could be also a solution really yes because if you look at today what is happening in most of developing countries if you look at vin network in the grassroots levels the services which are or are given to people or millions of people or those services

are given generally by a church my favorite organization you cannot be. a great. link if you want to really to make sure that your prevention with fighting in stigma discrimination will walk you need all sorts to work with what we have them in areas where you can agree we are not agreeing on all things but we personally believe that you have a new movement which is happening is very improper you cannot science if you don't foster a willing between science and social change science will not be used and i personally believe that the church can play this or says michel. executive director of the un aids and un under-secretary general spotlight will be back shortly after we take

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kill us we're trying to kill them just the we face a war. and nothing honorable and. i went to the war zone and i started seeing how i need to change. and on a way to do there's a knock at the arrival and kill another person that's why i'm applying for concerts . cause.

science technology innovation all the least of melanin some around russia we've got the future coverage. lucky lucky . welcome back to squat. in just a reminder that my guest in the studio today is michelle c.d.b. executive director of the u.n. aid the u.n. and the secretary general. during the break where we will continue to discuss this this church matter the church religious aspects of fire against aids and what church you said is that the church is becoming more to help then than an obstacle in awareness in talking to people about it and so so it's been transforming to

changing yes what i am trying to say we should we could not miss of the opportunity. of a social network which is an existing and that is very important for us if we want to deal with prevention if we want to also to make sure that stigma and discrimination could be read in a community level that's very important and they are becoming more and more an opportunity ok well as far as i know today statistics say that that most are the cases of infection of the known cases originally in version are through through injection needles and not through and not through other ways like for example sex yes is sexually transmitted and aids still a significant number i'm not really i'm not here so you have but you know what you

have a militant epidemic you don't have one epidemic in africa it will be sexually transmitted but in this that it will. even go we need a huge progress during the last five years we have been able to increase the number of people on treatment we have been able to prevent a name of a model to not give of babies with hiv but we still have a major problem in eastern europe and central asia because exactly what you said fifty seven percent of the new infection on. pocketing in war injecting drugs and then less so we have a strategy to deal with that client will not be able to stop the epidemic can you give us a figure you said you mentioned that if we were to prevent a child would with aids you know we crossed one hundred dollars yes i mean give the

technology today allows it but still give us the number of people that do not have equal access to that terribly because of money because of absence of a doctor awareness and so forth four hundred thousand babies are born every year so these people goes on. to pride. then we can we clone is not we are not talking about billions of dollars to stop that and we can start to seeing a new generation born with it people are talking the waiting till we will have an adequate adequate drug that will help fight aids are the first of all are the drugs that are already on the market other becoming more effective. effective we haven't the three or four generations of drugs and most of the people of war on women today are on the first lame three hour major challenge is how to make them moving from

first claim to so online but drugs or effecting if an effective and we are concerned by the fact that ninety six for some of those people are still on the first plane to commit first men will produce also on very long run resistance and side effect benefit will need to move on which is too costly and we need in that case to produce drugs which could be made available affordable and are not at all costing the society just in case you have a crystal ball so. bring your office in the us when will we have an effective vaccine against each of you do you have any idea do you know everything i think. is a here's decades away not only kate's ticking and yes i don't believe the we love a vaccine or you know is difficult is a very complex because first follow up with more investment on our vaccine.

that's very important and certainly it is a literal virus and is not sort easy to see in which we bear if a case in the vaccine we have today is a vaccine which if you can see around thirty three percent saw it will take some time to be able to really vote where this isn't is a virus which is changing it's a militating aging years imitating saw is a complex to hover but people are walking on it in one of your recent interviews you said i quote we are moving from a period of opportunity to an era of scarcity that's characterized by many crisis particularly the global financial crisis and quint the financial crisis your point of view me introduce this scheme our view of relations of triage i think we're

told in and out of the world it is a day particularly to give up what are facing a major financial crisis but what we are looking for is i just i'm in we have a human face it we are being all of a deep putting seven million people on treatment we cannot tell them that they are not having access to their rent and day we have known million people waiting for treatment what can we tell them so what we are trying to do is to certainly bring in new day be there on shared responsibility looking on saw the possibility to mobilize war resources. from domestic but also i believe personally and a quarter for about one when i was in vienna before it takes a shot or a financial transaction because i personally feel that it is the usual opportunity to hover in lot therma resources which can help to finance

a development i don't believe of a classic. we were having ental now will continue to produce a similar result they knew before and during these high level commission of leach ivy prevention promises nothing worse than i quote a crude vention revolution which will bring the hiv epidemic to a halt this is the go to the cherry prevention committee how soon is this revolution expected and what are the reasons i want to raise the optimism or is that is on what we are seeing today like i was saying young people a leading of a prevention original breakthrough we are seeing all saw on a science first we harbor for the first time in micro besides which has been founded by year in the south africa cup lisa which i been able to do was read that if he's user systematically we can reduce infection by fifty six percent in most

women that is the first time we have a tool where women can use themselves but also. fifty six percent reduction on men we have also today in new woman on top which are being created because of we know that the ninety six percent offer addiction is possible if we put people on treatment early so if you combine all of that we can harbor a major production on our new infections. doing the work most of the time most of the the air for. our viewers is it spending really really this is very good. i think on my my work is to produce strategic information on to advocate and promote the resources of flora raisings and the fund for people who are in need because you know aids is about

peace. it is a social issues and in need political decision and you know when you talk of god in you need to think about social justice and the distribution of opportunity any place where you will see people being marginalized people being a discriminate you will see it growing and our dog is too mixed or rather we can really help what draws people to our access or to a minimum of services by mobilizing the resources by sharing strategic information you have mentioned we do it in africa because for the you know the situation isn't very. actually it is alarming in eastern european countries in asia what's the reason is it a result of failing state policies in these you know is a commission of factors that for example i was just saying that are in

region particularly we are seeing a growing epidemic because of the people who were injected drugs because government and manager through a. after the g eight incentives was to increase budget allocation put more people on treatment reduce of the transmission from weather to try but. still a bit and focus on growing very quickly is the fastest and fake sun we have today in the world because people are like most of the import like a drug users and people were in the prison or not having access to services and we need to really deal with this issue your. opinion about where to draw i know that russians have been discussing it for a long time some people say russia should we go and gun as a drug placement for people who inject drugs well what do you think about this

controversial issue you know i know you're in a rush. to squash on the screen on most of the science is very clear the evidence is there most of the conflicts were against. i can talk about china indonesia malaysia vietnam after experimenting with punishment and move out of that today we are one of the biggest unknown adoption program in asia in china because they realize that by creating space for rough suspect. making sure that the arm of the tram program could be put in place so that it's on terra he could be made available first then we harbor people coming and people over objection by thank you thank you very much for she running out of time so just to just to remind you very much my guest today was. the big executive director of the un aids and u.n.

secretary general and that's it for now for months. we'll be back with you and so then stay on our team and take thank you thank you richard.

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