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the big three are there you were county and those slogans made great in cities schools are important with good schools actually heard the children to do think politicians say the darndest things and yet despite so many political missteps they are the ones leading in the polls to become the next g.o.p. presidential contender meanwhile. there's a war going to war the bourbon a nuclear weapon in the room you know it isn't worthwhile. candidates like ron paul and jon huntsman are being overlooked in the republican three ring circus so will voters ever stop focusing on the sideshow pay attention to some of the more serious issues. point frankly is they don't want to know that these people are here because
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there are faceless the nameless the no evil hear no evil or in this case see no poverty here no problem with this as more and more american families are left to sink or swim in a failing us economy one year later r.v. r.t. revisits a tent city on the outskirts of new york. good afternoon it is wednesday december seventh four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for you're watching our. i want to start out with a look at what has become a rapidly changing landscape that of the g.o.p. presidential candidate field now we all know over the weekend herman cain quote suspended his campaign so he that we want to talk about who is still in where they stand and what this means for the future of our country so much to the dismay of
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quite a few people newt gingrich now has a clear lead he leads with thirty seven percent of those republicans who were polled compared to mitt romney with just twenty two percent and wrong ron paul hanging in there with eight percent now we've gone to the point in the campaign four weeks away from the iowa caucuses that where the candidates aren't all playing nice anymore and it's becoming clear that there are some marked distinctions between them but here's one thing all of the republican candidates well all except ron paul can agree on they're all unwavering in their support for israel he they are here they're here in washington today addressing the republican jewish coalition courting their support and the support of apac the jewish lobby here ron paul was not invited though due to his quote misguided and extreme views he doesn't support the u.s. relationship with israel in the same way the others do here's one of his recent comments on the issue we don't have a treaty with israel why would we have this automatic commitment that we're going
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to send our kids and send their money and loosely to to israel. this is not a sentiment shared by the others but there are plenty of ways in which they all differ a surprising thing for many is how much things change michele bachmann won the iowa straw poll rick perry lead in the polls for a week or so romney was the assumed front runner until it was herman cain now it's newt gingrich this is a story on the surface but what are the deeper implications here and it's one of many questions i want to have answered and joining joining me to help answer them in studio is heather sermo conservative political commentator and strategist as well as tony katz a conservative talk show host with all patriots media dot com tony is in los angeles let's start off nice and simple guys is the republican party confused or are things moving along as they should how they're all start with you well this is not really anything different from a normal campaigning season you know we have this opportunity to kind of this
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consider the candidates they tell us what they think we make our decisions and remember that there has not been any official campaign. official polling has taken place in the bow about bach so that's going to happen very soon and i think that newt gingrich is not going to be the front runner for long i think he's not going to be able to maintain that status and i think we're going to see romney as a candidate and we'll talk about more coming up to tony i want to get your take i mean some people are saying this is a case of you know conservative identity crisis do you agree with that. i completely disagree with that just because there is a good debate there's a back and forth there's a conversation about who should be the nominee we're learning about people learning about their positions that's exactly what we're supposed to have there as heather said there hasn't been a vote cast but then heather went on to say that romney will be the nominee she doesn't know that as much as anybody else knows that we're still in the learning process the votes start january third it's going to be
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a good race and it's going to be an interesting race that's for sure and i did show you the gallup poll well take a look at the latest results in iowa the iowa caucuses now less than four weeks away we have thunk. it. we did have some numbers for iowa but basically it shows kind of a similar thing newt gingrich is living with thirty three percent mitt romney with eighteen percent ron paul tied with eighteen percent so that is what it's looking like on the ground there in iowa with a little less than four weeks to go there now i know that you identify with the republican party have their i wouldn't give me or take what is sort of in your opinion the ideal republican candidate well i think their ideal republican candidate would be consistent unfortunately we don't really see that with many of the candidates the two front runners right now that's our main problem that we have with them is that they are both flip floppers so to speak and so it's really hard to get excited about again today who we are uncertain as to whether or not he or
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she will continue believing what he says he believes now so that's the top one and we want to have a strong defense we want to make sure that our domestic policy doesn't you know cost us too much and is consistent with the republican platform and you know many of the candidates that are out there have said some amazing things and that's why people have said oh we love we love you for now and then as we hear more things we're like well i'm not sure we love you so more so much anymore and a lot of it also has to do with do we think that the person can lead us and will be a person who's a good role model to other countries and we temporarily lost our other guest tony in los angeles hopefully will be getting back to in just a second you talked about the different things that some of the candidates have said let's take a look at some of the things they've said and i want to start first of all with some of the front runners. torture is illegal. by our launching this illegal by international law which is also immoral i don't know the disc country
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needs to trade war with china is it worth going to war to bourbon a nuclear weapon in the room or do some work while i take a different approach on afghanistan i see it's time to come home. ok these are actually not the front runners these are these are two candidates considered to be sort of fringe candidates or way too low in the polls to even be considered in the case of john huntsman these are. issues that are important that a lot of people don't see as fringe issues. we did have other montage of different things that they some of the others have said but it seems like we've lost that talk to me about this why is it that people like jon huntsman for example have there you are a moderate republican jon huntsman and you're like romney jon huntsman why is he not on the top of your list well first i'm not a modern republican i'm pretty conservative republican actually identify myself first as a conservative and then a republican but. first of all very much against obama i don't want to see
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him be elected and so therefore i was the main reason i mean speaking for yourself but knowing that there's a lot of people who agree with you what's the main reason top two or three reasons why you don't want to see president obama back in the white house. well for one i think that he's created a huge government and has for years he's made our government much bigger and we have to pay for that and many of those things that he's created we will have to pay for until after he's out of office he's a one termer i mean are you talking about health care for one. apparently according to the nonpartisan congressional budget office that's not something that anyone has to pay for because it actually brings in money you know that's actually very controversial as far as how it was a huge piece of legislation the costs for that are going to be far reaching and it's i mean that's what conservatives say but there's no evidence there is it so what other than hell is there which is controversial is something that obama has
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put in place that people should be concerned about having to pay for in the future right well as far as you know his plans for unemployment those things as far as how he attacks usual problems like unemployment like i said is his plans which of course you know have to be debated by congress he doesn't make legislation right but those plans would actually increase our government so would he like extending unemployment and things like that extending unemployment benefits because his whole view of how what he thinks america should look like and really his view for america is much more like europe it's much more like a socialist type government i'm not calling him a socialist but i do believe he advocates a more socialist type of government so i believe this election is really about what do we want america to look like we want america to be an unusual unique place that really allows people to achieve the american dream or at least pursue it or do we want to look like other nations that have more of a socialist government and i believe that also most for the social is go back to
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the question about huntsman why or why not huntsman why is he doing so poor and i do think that he has some great ideas i think for him it's really a matter of having the network stablish to promote him in a right way but i think his ideas like his economic plan has been praised by can see. and moderates and actually george will return all right and george will wrote a column last week that was just really condemning of both. romney and gingrich and saying let's take a look at huntsman again and maybe even rick perry so there is still debate going on and it's definitely not over yet let's remember huckabee won iowa and you know how could be the republican was either republican nominee so we still have a long road to go down but i do believe that regardless who the nominee is republicans whether you're moderate conservative will be behind the candidate because they do want to see the america that they love restored they want to see obama gone and i hope that the independents will see that. convincing to say i
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realize we have to cater to those people in some ways this election is all about that we played you some of the things that some of the. candidates seen as fringe candidates or i have said it let me play now what's on the front runners have said and they will respond to that. you know work any of those slogans man great incident schools are important we're good schools actually heard the children to do things what if the process were actually learning to work we're learning to earn money they had money you know they didn't have to become a pimp or a prostitute or a drug dealer i believe it's absolutely essential africa was a country on the brink now with the president he put us in libya he is now putting us in africa the very founders that wrote those documents and worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the united states. like the commerce and let's see. i can.
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ok granted it always gives a good laugh and granted you're in favor of romney right now nothing and then the gaffes really for him in there but you know when you see things like this victory or death and i realized bachmann and perry are no longer leading in the polls but they were at one time what do you think things like that say to the rest of the american people when they think that well i think that this is the opportunity discuss a lot of issues and let's be fair when the democrats have the same thing going on we see a lot of crazy ideas out there too doesn't mean that the person who is saying them is crazy you know we all have gaffes and we all say let's backpedal on that and the reality is we've had way too many debates this season and i really i think that's why gingrich has risen to the surface as he has because he's done so well in the debates but as we see more of his interaction with other people like journalists
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for one and romney i think we're going to see that he doesn't necessarily keep his cool all that well i think that's why romney like i said i'm not an enthusiastic supporter of romney he's not my first choice but as we saw your choice well my first choice wasn't even a candidate. what i love mitch daniels who should run so you're talking about newt gingrich so let's keep it as i think it's important he's been he's showing a considerable lead in the polls right now. there are people who are looking at those people who are worried i don't know if you're one of them a lot of people consider themselves conservative because of their religious values and there are people that worry if newt gingrich becomes the republican nominee this could mean the death of christian conservatism and newt has been divorced twice married three times has committed adultery as to it and there are some groups who are very aware of this i was coming up i want to play something that the iowans for christian leaders in government put together. we don't always see eye to eye
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doing you know but we do agree our country must take action to address climate change and sitting on the couch with nancy pelosi is the dumbest single thing i've done. commercial about her again. ok so sort of showing gingrich as a flip flopper which is certainly romney has been accused of being but but what about this notion of not representing not being at all representative of christian values well you know the whole idea of christianity is that you do you are forgiven you get a clean slate. the proof of that is in how you live your life of course so i definitely
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would not want to judge gingrich for you know with those past things that he's done if he genuinely has had a conversion and but the reality is you know there's still just a question to be a leader and i don't know if that's what gingrich should be doing right now you know he has a lot of baggage if there is a divorce would be one of them but he's going to greece and they've got to face those charges and he can't lose his cool and he's going to have to have a very gracious demeanor about him if he is going to be the candidate and you know with romney he's using that against him aready i mean without mentioning gingrich's name in the way he plans to release a commercial that says you know i've been married for the same woman for forty two years our longest been and you know i have this had the same face ever sense you know i was aware of what faith is so it's going to be hard for gingrich to walk around with all that baggage that he has and if he can keep us cool then maybe it's ok maybe they're american people will be able to trust him but i don't think that you know the the genuine conservative christians that are out there if we know what
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redemption is all about then we will give gingrich a chance but he has a lot to prove he certainly does have one to provide i'm sure we'll be talking to you much more as we get closer to the different primary races other sermo i thanks for coming on we do apologize to our viewers because we lost our other very outspoken guest radio hosts radio host tony kept thanks again. well still to come the great disparity here in the us tonight are two travels back to a tent city where those who've hit hard times are settling for a long winter at. the with. with the police rocking. the with. one of the protest nobody seems to know.
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but never a pepper sprayed the face but more of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. look at the capitol encountered by flooring mr. ira we were talking before about the race for the g.o.p. candidates and no doubt one of the major cases whoever becomes the republican nominee will have to make is that he or she will implement policies that improve the economy more than president obama has been able to do during his first term in
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the white house now for those out of work or about to lose their job this is crucial a change any change that offer signs of hope comes soon enough for the thousands of thousands of people here who've not only lost their jobs but their homes as well or you may see some of them on the streets on your way to work if you live in a metropolitan area but there are many more you don't see living not in shelter. there's but among trees and bushes and here's a look at one of those camps people have erected tents or built teepee like structures to stay dry they spend the day gathering firewood just firewood it just to keep warm and this is not a third world country this is new jersey r.t. correspondent on a fast h.r. going to has been to this particular camp several times now but in our most recent visit she discovered something that may surprise you there are more people now there than ever. tent cities of outrage popping up all across the u.s. over the last months list visible to the public eye and much quieter.
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this tent city of hopelessness around for half a decade this is our third time at the village tucked away in the woods in about two years the number of homeless turning to the camp for hospitality keeps growing these days the population of tent city has tripled compared to when it was first set up the police is home to about seventy homeless people who have nowhere else to go a third are women there are shame to leave their tents in the presence of a camera. the mood here has become increasingly politicized over the last year the politicians and the government has not protected the american people they've allowed outsourcing to run rampant you know and it's benefiting companies. corporations are making more money than they've ever made before the average american worker and the citizen is suffering at the expense of the agenda of the
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politicians. forty six year old angela of the one we have with a love for confluence lost everything in the recession and has never found a full time job again it seems to be a growing trend unfortunately and you know the politicians better take note and freida stop their bickering and get. something new to you know to stop this or to slow it down or to make it better a bricklayer for two decades angelo calls himself a victim of the economy and this place home as does charles homeless for the last two years he used to play the harmonica but this is no longer there might be a certain degree of depression that might set in just the whole situation especially now we're getting cooler and the days are shorter as if the sorrow of these people wasn't enough officials have been trying to evict the homeless out of the camp they try to force out the poor and i call it discrimination by design for the sake of keeping the pushing the poor out and encouraging the wealthier the
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people with money to you know to move into your town. wealth inequality has been at the root of the anger for occupy wall street protesters. but some of these homeless seem far from the demonstrators i support don't but i think our our situations are a lot of different you know we're homeless we had one no we have no where to go to sleep i'm sure they have places to go when they're done the little rally we've got our own occupy movement right here and in lakewood and it's more of an occupy movement out of the society of those who volunteered to help at the camp are not wealthy like donald who's an artist on disability he was also broke the neglect of the homeless is no surprise to him quite frankly is they don't want to know that these people are here because they're ugly they're faceless they're nameless many of the residents of tent city used to blame themselves for their misfortune but with three point five million americans experiencing homelessness every year or
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over seven hundred thousand people on any given night their message for politicians has changed open your eyes. well you know i mean all the help that we give out all over the world we go up here as night settles help was far from here all they have left are their roosters that live in their trees to keep them company but each homeless resident faces a hard truth by himself and. liquid futures in fact is seen as one of the folks in that story mentioned it's surprising that you know this is in this country this is not the third world it's not unique though there are ten cities like this all around the country but at this one our correspondent on the stuff here has been visiting every few months she says it's not just more people there's a different feeling that it feels more sorrowful so what will it take to make places like this obsolete and why are they on the outskirts of most major cities in
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this country well joining me now senior fellow at the campaign for america's future richard asco hey there richard it lends a little perspective to revisit the same place numerous times any insight as to why there are so many homeless camps in the united states. sure i mean i think it's a combination of factors but one of them is that the number of people living in poverty keeps going up keeps going up i think we're seeing a decline in the social services that are available to them and if you look at the geography of poverty if you could look at the new data that's coming out with a you know with a computer eye from above you'll see that the neighborhoods of poverty are spreading the areas in pockets of rb are moving across the country and getting broader broader you're also seeing of course bank foreclosures and that type of activities so taken all together almost this is becoming a greater greater problem sued in security you know not knowing where the next meal
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is coming from it's become and i agree with your problem so i think it's a combination of factors we're not investing in fighting poverty we're not stimulating the economy the more the economy stagnates for the ninety percent or ninety nine percent that more people are likely to slip into poverty so it's an ongoing process of decay and there this homelessness of course just one manifestation of this poverty this hit any quality gap that continues to grow and occupy wall street is a movement that has come to sort of embody this any quality gap camps occupy camps are getting shut down most recently in san francisco today there were several arrests even here in d.c. if this sort of changes form if there's no longer people out there in people's faces every day occupying parks around this country do you think the message that has sort of been put out there is going to get lost. well i hope not look i think that there are this is a time to reconsider strategy i wish that the mayors and and whoever else has been
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involved in these. strategy discussions about how to shut down the occupy wall street was put is much creativity and imagination into sugar and our property but they haven't been doing that yet so i think it's a matter of to changing tactics look i think occupy our homes which took place yesterday was a terrific idea and that was where or. as you probably know members of the occupy movement cavemen how spam is that it was fairly or illegally foreclosed move back into their own homes and that's the kind of thing we've got to see i think now it's time to say a visible presence is important but let's take the fight to the victims of the injustice who are the people being foreclosed on the people who's in there almost the people living in under the people slipping into our beach let's make them visible let's make been human for the rest of the population and real to the west population so that people care enough to do something about this and more richard
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in terms of those people who can actually make decisions people with the power to change things i mean what's going to take the u.s. congress doesn't seem to be getting any closer to dealing with beth it's about to get really cold on who you know what they're going to take to get the congress to respond to this or to to get other people in power to actually make a difference. it's gone through a relentless persuasion relentless pressure with relentless visibility look we just saw barack obama give a speech yesterday where he channeled the most radical and transformative progressive president arguably and american history certainly up there with franklin roosevelt that was teddy roosevelt now with the words in the rhetoric aren't exactly matching up as i as i said when i wrote about it. populism is a mode of action it's not a form of speech but still we've seen this big change and that's directly i think attributable to the occupy wall street movement which in just two months as change
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the the whole dialogue so how do we get congress to change we keep the pressure on with things like occupier almost and frankly we do have these kinds of tactics that get the banks attention because you know there's a it's a very to say that if you've got wall street concerns you'll get the politicians attention and i think it's time to bring the fight to those areas sent to new levels well it certainly will be interesting to watch especially as we watch that debate that discussion sort of change forums with all the g.o.p. candidates trying to give their views on the economy it's an interesting and exciting time here in this country i think you're following the campaign for america's future richard asco. live going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to our website our team dot com slash usa or check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash r t america you can follow me on twitter at christine for now coming up next is capital account with more analysts or.
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