by any objective measure the euro is a four year old breaking up is hard to do but if it were up to nigel farage that's exactly what the e.u. would be doing and he isn't afraid to tell leaders to stick it where the sun don't shine we'll speak to the u.k. independence party leader himself. i talk about personal liberty in the right to people's personal life for getting and stopping these wars and coming home and having a sensible monetary policy all the republican field has seen its share of changes throughout the years but ron paul's message has always been the same and his popularity is on the rise so are people standing behind this texan doctor or the

ideology he stands for will take a look at ron paul the man the man the presidential contender. and it's a bird it's a plane no it's a predator drone but this isn't afghanistan it's north dakota and police forces aren't looking for terrorists they're spying on your neighbors welcome to a police state usa. it's tuesday december thirteenth five pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching artsy well we begin with the crisis in the euro zone and the black sheep of the e.u. is shaking things up even more this after u.k. prime minister david cameron vetoed a treaty dreamed up by germany's marco and france's sarkozy the treaty was designed to save the euro the currency that is now on the brink of collapse but the u.k.

is the only country of the twenty seven members to vote against the proposal cameron argues that the treaty takes an unprecedented amount of power away from the individual countries and transfers it to brussels and he doesn't want brinson be a part of it while one leader of the u.k. never wanted to have any part of the euro plan to begin with nigel farage the leader of the u.k. independence party thinks the euro project is a disaster and he's not afraid to let his colleagues know just how he feels you won't. know but in the objective measure the euro is it for you i do is actually responsible who can show. god out of you lot but of course the answer is not of you because none of you have been elected none of you actually have any democratic legitimacy for the roles that you currently hold within this crisis and that was the leader of the u.k. independence party and i spoke to him earlier. and to talk more about this i asked

him if a split in the e.u. is inevitable here's what he had to say it's happened already i think i think it happened in the early hours of last friday morning where the united kingdom a country of sixty two million people one of the really big players in the european community for the last nearly four decades found herself how closely isolated be used by everybody. i don't think there is any going back from well cameron's decision certainly it was not a popular one at least among his fellow members of the e.u. . do you think that he is has alienated himself from from members of the. cameron is somebody who is naturally a fairly gentle consensus politician he likes to be popular he likes to side up to agreements he went along last thursday with what he thought were very reasonable practical demands so that the united kingdom which has

a very big financial services industry could get some degree of protection for that industry and he went into those negotiations assuming that he get what he asked for what he was confronted by was a snarling aggressive french president in sarkozy who just said we will not bend we will not yield in any way and we insist that the financial transaction tax stays now what that would have meant is a new tax eighty percent of which would have been paid by the u.k. if cameron had signed up to that and gone back to the house of commons it literally would have brought down the british government and so he was forced into a position where he simply had to say no now nigel you from the very beginning have a have a question and the u.k. is membership in the e.u. do you think now more than ever the u.k. is membership is being scrutinized and it's becoming more of a reality that there will be this there's

a breaking point and there will be this separation. well i think so and i've i've tried to argue over many many years that either you're fully in the e.u. or you're fully out of the you and the compromise over that period of time is people have like to believe that we can be in europe but not run by europe i think that myth died in those early hours of friday morning because we now find ourselves in a position where we're outvoted by twenty six to one we're in a hopeless minority and yet we still have seventy five percent of our laws that run the united kingdom made in these institutions and in particular the industry that cameron sought to protect our financial services are now more vulnerable than ever so i think that cameron not wishing to do this has now opened up the real debate in the u.k. about our european future and i suspect that over the coming months the calls for britain to have a referendum on our continued membership of the union will become very loud and

very strong indeed and i know that you describe the euro as a sort of economic prison why do you say that. well imagine i mean put yourself in the place of a greek right now whether you vote at the next general election for a socialist party or a conservative party or liberal party for that matter it makes no difference because your tax rates your spending rates all of these things are now determined by three foreign officials one from the european commission one from the european central bank and one from the i.m.f. who i'm afraid of turned into an organization who exists to back up this euro project if you cannot change your destiny or your future by the way you vote you are trapped inside something that is now forcing upon you austerity measures massive cuts in public spending without the compensation of a currency the can do you value because your economy is not doing very well i think

my definition of an economic prism is pretty accurate you know but some people say that if there is to be there's a breakdown if one country in the euro zone comes down it will kind of result in this disaster as a domino effect that will lead to a global economic crisis and be as far reaching as the u.s. i mean what would the breakdown of the euro mean for the people. well don't forget that politicians will always defend the status quo they will always tell you that if what we have now doesn't continue to exist the sky will fall in they'll be famine floods pestilence and it'll all be a complete disaster we've seen this before many times over the years the reality is that the breakdown of the euro in the short term would be tough because many many european banks would go bust and probably have to be nationalized but as we've seen with iceland who back in two thousand and eight let some of their banks go bust

accepted the situation three years on they going back to growth i think the biggest threat we face now in europe is to keep countries like greece and portugal and ireland and possibly even spain and italy to trapped inside an economic prison stripped of their democracy i mean literally the governments of greece and italy were removed by these bully boys in brussels the bigger threat is they stay inside this thing and they die a slow economic death and they finish up with unemployment figures that are so high that there is even a risk that europe returns to extremism and maybe even fascism so let's get the bad news out of the way let's have the breakdown and you know what a few months on the world see very it will seem very much rosier and today the the euro plunged to the lowest levels there ever is this another sign that the euro is finished. what has been very odd

a bit over the last year one of the great mysteries is being why is the euro so relatively strong on the exchanges versus the dollar versus sterling versus the yam and the reason of course is being that the markets have been pricing in that the weak currency is i'm at places like greece and portugal would bust out leaving a stronger coal so the market surprised that it and that's why the euro stayed so strong what is now happening and we've seen it with standard and poor's we're about to see it with moody's is that the effect of those weak economies is now dragging down even the strong economies in northern europe like germany like fronts and so we're now facing the real problem that not just the south of europe is being damaged by the euro but even the strong german economy has been damaged by two and i i'm concerned that now the euro was started to move downwards it could continue to go down at quite a rapid pace so it sounds like the countries just need to bite the bullet and it

might get worse before it gets better but what needs to happen is that the split needs to happen yes admit the truth admit that the euro was never an economic project it was always a political project it was a means as people in strasburg in brussels or of creating a united states of europe better to admit they've got it wrong that the fundamentals are so divergent that it can't possibly work better to break the eurozone up in an orderly fashion if they don't the markets will overwhelm this now cameron not popular among members of the e.u. after he voted against the treaty but his poll numbers within the u.k. have risen sense he decided to vote against the treaty do you think that this is a sign that people's attitudes towards the euro have changed that they're ready to part ways with it. oh without any shadow of

a doubt i mean look the british came into the european project after the french and germans and the italians we were we were in that kind of second wave we got into it because we were promised it would be a common market rather like nafta if you like we were told it was about free trade we were told our sovereignty our politics would not be threatened we find ourselves now thirty six years into a project that is costing us a daily membership fee of fifty million pounds a day that is now making seventy five percent of our laws that is drowning us with health and safety environmental and employment regulations that damage every business in britain we find our own unique city of london something we're very very good at now directly threatened by a whole raft of e.u. regulations and directives and frankly what the british people say is look let's be friends with europe let's trade with europe let's cooperate with them but let's be

a global player let's get our democracy back and let's govern our own country and that view is now supported amongst the british people by a margin of nearly two to one and as you just mentioned and all these consequences and repercussions that that london has faced as a result of being part of the e.u. are britain the only ones that feel that they are being short changed by the e.u. or is this sentiment being felt by other members. no i think there are resentments now building up in other member states i mean take finland for example albeit a relatively small country in terms of population in their general election back in april this year a party that wants finland to leave the euro and to stop contributing to the bailout funds for southern europe nearly won the general election the same thing is happening in the netherlands and right across the north of europe we are seeing new political movements springing up saying look we are unhappy with what the established order has done they're costing us

a fortune their policies are failing and they're stripping us of democracy and you know democracy matters because it's a safety valve you may not like the government that is relieving your country today but you promise to get rid of them and replace them with somebody else when you take that away all you leave people with is civil. action taking to the streets and that consume breakdown into civil disorder we have seen in greece in the last few months hundreds of thousands of people out on the streets protesting because their democracy has been stripped for them out above all that's what i want to fight for i want to europe of democratic sovereign states trading together not one run by these elected bureaucrats. and that was member of the european parliament and leader of the u.k. independence party nigel farage well as a race to be the next republican presidential nominee heats up a new winner is emerging the mainstream media tries to ignore message positions are

certainly not mainstream ron paul now gaining momentum in the g.o.p. race paul has always had a steady base of loyal followers but he's struggled to surpass a ten percent ceiling but the latest numbers show that ron paul is now second in the iowa caucus survey he's tied with mitt romney and behind only newt gingrich gingrich is the newest face to enjoy his time in the limelight as g.o.p. front runner now ron paul is stepping up his game in iowa he's out spending his rivals and advertising in the state take a look at this brutal campaign targeting gingrich. used gingrich was a career politician selling access here in washington d.c. the year that he ran for congress nine hundred seventy eight made a grand total of ten thousand dollars by the time he became the speaker he made six hundred seventy five thousand dollars from the last congress on his net worth up to about seven and a half million dollars. it's about serial hypocrisy. well that is quite

a different approach than he took back in two thousand and eight let's take a look at that i'm ron paul candidate for president and i approve this message well i don't always agree with ron paul but he's honest and you always know where you actually agree with the most of the time i really do you want to get out of iraq pronto cut government spending protect personal privacy personal freedom live for you. i'm a declared but i'm going to go over public and move on i'm going to vote for well he is obviously kicking it up a notch there now with his recent surge in the polls and aggressive campaign has the time come for the mainstream to take seriously our people finally getting his message and could he realistically be the next president of the united states well the answer just then i have liberty activist and blogger trevor lyman here now hi there trevor ron paul has always had his loyal base of followers but now he is gaining more supporters who is jumping on the paul train.

well i think more and more mention republicans are starting to come around on message one because the other candidates have so many weaknesses and are very careful and two because they're one of joshing it needs to republicans out with a lot of things for a good foreign policy when i think you start to make some breakthroughs there mainly because you know the many movements you don't agree that we should come out model but they are starting to agree with the fact that we can't afford it repealing don't support this now and secondly also because of his stance with israel you painted that as an answer or a knee injury but what you've been able to get through the message to get out there and actually israel is once you have more control over what they do you now defend themselves they don't want to take orders from going to stay and they're. going so

when this was also said by recently congress by. netanyahu so you know you don't just want to allow israel would want the term and it's actually and that is actually a very pro quality so i think the objections are starting to go away and then once that one of junction of foreign policy goes away everything else that he offers is very exactly the absolutely economical server the aspirate going back to when there were mirrors so when you when you stack that character on the other candidate and he's really starting to show the so that's why i think that nature of things are starting to really gravity's for and what's fascinating is that you know ron paul he is he is the oldest candidate and and he's garnering much of the support of the youth out. here is that what paul has said about this phenomenon and in the past.

question is why would it be. because of the similarity. to candidate. young people. so what is it about ron paul that draws young people and do you think that he could be taking some of obama's youth vote that helped him to get elected in the last election sure. this. was all. so. i think. we can. all i think they look to their future they look for the opportunity they want and when they go. and. he consistently has maintained this anti war message this message resonating with the youth you know i've been to the occupy wall street protests

several times and this is this is one of their many grievances to these wars we even see. veterans iraq war veterans and afghanistan veterans saying that they have had enough so do you think that the time has come where where where ron paul's. message is resonating with more and more americans. absolutely and he's also the only candidate who wore armor a certain this. from for me every bit a new conservative as virtue or worse and certainly these other republican candidates. and so that also goes to the sustainability of the war then also having the wars not to mention i think that americans are starting to wake up to the damage that we're doing to the troops. re four tours the highest suicide rates that are seen in this industry. and really for what or what progress really

because we could say over and over again the point in the example of our religious odyssey. you know these people in these countries and men and possibly talking more terror in the making. and also as we saw earlier on we showed the stark contrast in the way that ran ron paul is running his campaign we are saying that's really aggressive more edgy hard hitting style of campaigning how do you think that is going to affect his chances. i you know i've heard him say that he's reluctant to see new york the marines most of the media is not doing its job and. so i think he's really doing an observer service or people and i think it's resonating. the fact that for themselves every single one of the other candidates from. the main question. very they've all been

supporters of obama care so you know when you look at that when you go to foreign policy. or worse yet. and you can't trust them to differ for. much. and also you know want to ask and yes ron paul he is gaining more he is gaining momentum he is gaining supporters but still some say that it's going to be hard for him to really pull this off because he doesn't have the backing of the mainstream of the conservative republicans what can ron paul do kind of expand his base so that he can appeal to more people. i have to agree to. you know basically when i look at our operating work. i don't know of any other candidate. as

a high school he goes. to every every place that would give him the opportunity to speak about everything. and i think he just wanted to kinda give you the grassroots will follow you are marry the daughter or at out of the second plane. showing why or that's going to change the conversation really. in the mainstream media will have to start thinking more and more seriously if you can have your showings in the pool and lastly trevor just want to ask you as a ron paul supporter what is that i mean he's had this consistent following what is it about ron paul that he continues to have this loyal following what does he symbolize the constitution. and. liberty. if you know i think it's just really everywhere you plug this the idea of liberty

you end up with better results than even those the foreign policy saying and i think this right here what language are we with they want to you remember to use to determine their own future and in so doing give us liberty as well we shouldn't have to necessarily or that or any other country matter with their wars with their problems and in both countries will benefit from the. support for the constitution if you support liberty and i think it shows the other candidates are now are able to walk into this arena. yes they will also. in liberty and i think that shows it is not while it is very much about who he is it is consistently deeper than that it's about the idea of the ideas in the constitution cover thank you so much. thank you for weighing in on that that was a liberty activist and blogger linemen. well this afternoon there are

signs that the u.s. may be moving in the direction of becoming a police state now we've heard about drones being used in the middle east most recently iran sees a u.s. drone accused of spying on the country but now reports that predator drones are being used on american citizens on u.s. soil this video pretty much sums it all up no security north dakota sure kill your cue we're looking for six missing. before but through your brother your brothers chase to be late don't you call the highway patrol swat team dogs one at a predator drone operated by u.s. customs and border protection the drug was used to surveil the property until the grocer brothers were observed to be it or did this what you did to big breasts yes that really happened an unmanned multimillion dollar drone was reportedly used to help local police track down stolen cows and their own hers so what is happening

here in the u.s. and is this a sign of things to come well to get some answers to those questions i was joined by the always outspoken alex jones i asked him why the heck people are in north dakota using drones to spy on u.s. citizens here is what he anticipates. well that's because this is their prime enemy and prime target our country has been taken over by goldman sachs the same folks who've taken over europe they publicly are are setting up a system where the entire military industrial complex is used against the people and the internal law enforcement manuals that i've gotten from law enforcement the last decade but especially the last few years none of that is about al qaeda that our government's given control of libya to it's all about land rights activist second amendment activist property rights activist and now under the department of defense there's the rural affairs council and the t.n. governor's council and in the training and this is public it is all about having an

all out civil war with laurel populations who are going to give their property up under the rural council so of course hundreds of miles inside the us you know they won't use the predator drones on the legals coming across the border but they will on citizens who under common law callous keep coming on your property for the damage and things you are able to keep and that's common law that's state law and the fact is that then without a warrant they came on the property and they said hey get out of here you don't have a warrant and they had firearms in their vehicles so they called in. air force vehicle and this is a multi-million dollar system they used to kill people worldwide and why is it happening when they passed the in da that ron paul is called martial law in america here in the u.s. a few weeks ago when they passed that it says the whole world not just the u.s. can have predators over it dropping bombs on them so it's a declaration of war an end

a posse comitatus troops on the streets and says they can kill us citizens disappear us citizens it isn't a police state it's beyond a police state it's something more like north korea and do you think alex that this is a sign of things to come to cross from using cars drones are typically used in the middle leave you know on terrorists do you think that this could be the beginning of more instances like this where we've seen predator drones being used on u.s. citizens. yes north com based in colorado springs colorado is the real government and they get out of state as a battlefield for at least a decade they're just announcing now what they always point i mean i knew nine years ago we were going to have t.s.a. checkpoints people laugh but i watch c.-span i read the documents i made a public now they have t.s.a. checkpoints with the army and marines in states all over the us and you pull up in the middle of the countryside and there's highway checkpoints with cops dragging you out of the car under the orders of t.s.a.

that they have marine corps running dui checkpoints to make it sound like good p.r. they're just getting everybody ready for the. army times stars and stripes three years ago shed homeland brigade brigade homeland was the headline preparing to pull triggers on american citizens and i'm not in the military public they are training i've been to the drills where they train to go door to door confiscating our firearms arresting political dissidents what came to russia what came of nazi germany what came to china what's come to every other country classical authoritarianism is now coming here and the drones that we pay for are going to be used against us not when there's a bank robbery not a liquor store gets robbed not when your house gets invaded but when you are that rural gun owner the entire posture of the pentagon is literally sick to wage war on self-sufficient country boys as hank williams song a country boy can survive you

can skin a buck you could run a trot line the law enforcement is obs sanest with it because y.a.y. target audience where are all farmers or what what danger to vaporize. why did stalin target him in ukraine why did hitler go after rural areas they don't want you being self-sufficient they want you in the artificial big cities the artificial habitat that they've basically shut up their control grids and you've got the middle of nowhere you'll be in country towns with homeland security cameras everywhere helicopters flying over because i've been telling people this is coming in the rural areas because i've talked to the police. they are scared of people that are self-sufficient and who they know are going to turn their guns in when they're ordered to. and that wasn't radio host alex jones and that does it for now to see my full interview with alex or for more on the stories become part of what r.t. dot com slash usa and check out to you tube page it's you tube dot com slash arts in america you can also follow.