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they started the avalanche put a year after this is revolved gave life to the arab spring people there say changing the country is yet to come as we report tonight also kazakhstan says its western oil back under control after independence day riots left at least eleven people dead in the central asian country. and guilty as charged a new york court finds that a random supreme leader did help the terrorists behind the nine eleven attacks but critics saying it's part of a smear campaign pave the way for a new war live comment on that coming up for you to.
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direct from moscow this saturday night you're watching r t it's very good to have you company it's nine pm here now my name is kevin and first it's exactly a year since the first flashpoint and subsequent street protests which led to the over fro of president ben ali in tunisia they provided the spark for the spread of the arab spring across north africa or the middle east with regimes falling and talk of democracy rising but even after elections in june easy a call for change remains strong there to this day as a teaser we're going to be finding out. a year ago mohamed bouazizi set himself of fire to protest against the authorities in tunisia a listening public ferry over corruption and poverty which led to the hours syria's president ben ali a wave of revolt spread to other countries and the arab spring was born. today a monument stands to his sacrifice in his hometown a city there's
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a widespread belief however that the changes in tunisia and there. we've asked for a very few things to upgrade the school to meet families with disabled children and some jobs but no one wants to listen to us the people haven't got money things those who came from abroad and reaped all the benefits they're all in the new government but the simple folk are left with nothing but. the tunisian revolution was led by young people demanding freedom of speech and greater presentation but the voice of news according to some has been silenced. like the new government is comprised of the elderly that shows what kind of new tunisia we're talking about the main problem is the political parties which haven't given a chance to the young people who gave their lives in blood for the revolution but. the western media has hailed that there is an evolution as the beginning of a new democratic chapter in the history of the country northern africa region
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a year has passed and people who live here is the very few of the soldiers they have asked for absolutely can place. everything is still as it used to be the elections have come and gone and the town hasn't seen changes unemployment is still the same if not worse and the only things that changed we can now express our opinion but the relations main goals haven't been accomplished that were the fervor which sparked a revolution maybe on a slow burn from now on but if the grievances which is parted for mean so with the people's inspiration to revolt again it goes carty said it was. tunisia. of course one of the countries to follow in choosing his footsteps was egypt discontent rumbles on there as well with clashes between protesters and police in the latest violence indeed at least eleven people were killed and hundreds have been injured egyptians want the military council to step down immediately despite parliamentary elections being under way sticking to this. law that it's reporter for the jerusalem post he's on the line from tel aviv very good evening thanks for
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being on. first of all how likely is it that these clashes you think could grow into another round of protests. i think it's very possible that they could grow i think that they're a symptom of a wider power struggle that's taking place between the military and the islamist led parliament the new parliament that's been elected that's being elected in phases i think that the military is very frightened of the prospect of an egypt that would be led by islamist political parties they're worried about security they're worried about the economy what this could do to tourism and they're very reluctant they've gotten used to being in power for many many years since the fifty's i think they're very reluctant to let go of that power and these clashes i think we're seeing are a symptom of this ongoing power struggle between these two sides do you think the military the military will stand out very reluctantly but they say that listening to what the people want. i'm going to have to ask you to repeat the question that
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you said the military obviously don't want to stand down they've been in power for a long time but they say they are going to listen to what the people want. right well i think this is exactly what the struggle that we're seeing unfolding is over this issue these long as party can look at the results of the elections that are coming in and they can say the people want us in power for better or for worse is what they're saying the military has been in power since the one nine hundred fifty s. it's not used to thinking about what the people want and they have the concept that they have ija. it's national interest at heart they know better than the parliament and possibly the people so i think as time goes by we're going to see an emboldened parliament islamist political forces coming together and continuing to chip away at the power of the military how was this will turn out nobody knows at this stage but i think we'll definitely see more violence on egypt street and if the islamist do
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get it will go to me for the paper in the country mostly going to mean for egypt internal and external its foreign policy. well certainly israel is watching the situation with much concern it's following these developments israel is trying to maintain strong diplomatic relations with egypt recently sent back its ambassador a new ambassador has been sense to cairo to take up the position of the old ambassador and the old ambassador was just on the radio here in israel saying that it's too soon to draw dire conclusions about what would happen if the muslim brotherhood came to power along with its. other additional islamist parties but certainly i think it can be said that it won't be good for israel egypt and relations of islamist come into power it can't herald any good positive developments so i don't think that we can be very optimistic on that front about internally. religious government to be able to reach. democracy.
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well they're using democracy to get into power so on the face of it there may not be a major contradiction between democracy and in this rule if they come into power through the ballot then there is no inherent contradiction what this would mean for life in egypt i think again this won't be positive and in many ways we're going to see probably more laws that are passed that are in line with sharia law with islamic law this could lead to ban on alcohol ban on all kinds of mixing of the sexes. and we could see a lot of the damage caused to tourism western tourists who are used to coming to egypt and having a good time may feel a lot less welcome under an islamist regime and i think these are all some of the major factors that are once again behind the confrontations that we're seeing a lot going for it we don't have long but as a journalist i just want to get your thoughts hindsight's always a great looking but with the benefit of hindsight how do you assess the results of
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the revolution so. i don't think that there actually has been a revolution yet i think that what's happened is that the figurehead of the military regime has been deposed very dramatically certainly that's a hugely significant event it's an earthquake but i thought i would define a revolution as the ousting of the elites from power and i think that the elites in egypt which which are the military i think they're still in power so i would be careful using the word revolution i haven't seen as far as i concerned a revolution in egypt yet i've seen a major major changes and i'm seeing these changes continuing and once the military is gone from power fully gone from power then i think we can describe what we're seeing in egypt as a revolution until then well i think these two sides are stuck in their current position fighting it out through a range of ways and one of these ways is street battles between the military security forces and the people and there's many other conversations that are that we're seeing far from the media that are going on simultaneously so i think it's
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going to be unpredictable violent in some cases and it's also going to damage egypt's ability to maintain law and order on its streets it was so much for taking the time to give us your thoughts on the program and a reporter for the jerusalem post. the arab league says it will give syria until wednesday to let in observers all it will consider turning to the u.n. security council for action is comes as moscow is speaking up for its un resolution about syria in the face of attempts by the united states and its allies to see the text and it changed. but most school insists it's drawn up a balanced approach to solving the crisis and the dr condemns all sides in the ongoing conflict calling for the violence to stop while ruling out foreign intervention and sanctions washington wants the blame though for the bloodshed problem of the basket's authorities alone it also won't acknowledge that the opposition is armed despite thousands of army defectors claiming to be fighting to bring down the regime to asia times columnist pepe ask about tell me the western
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countries he things are looking to soften up the country before making them move. what's interesting is what the u.s. and nato countries consider and accept an acceptable is that the syrian government cannot fight an armed insurgency in their own territory which the free syrian army they're getting weapons smuggled from the middle east to the borders in turkey any in jordan as well this has been already proved then about the u.n. figures a lot of people are seriously question this number saying that five thousand people were killed over these past few months it makes like almost no one hundred that the effect so there is the fog of three war is already there so the russian move is an intelligent move because it's a preemptive i would say resolution it condemns both sides in asks for a u.n. peacekeeping mission in fact to solve the drop what nato wants is simmering
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civil war let's put it this way as a friend you for something much tougher had probably after the american election in one year. still to come on r.t. tonight a soldier's bravery or trail will find it the latest about the u.s. army private accused of passing military secrets to the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks but his supporters seeing him as a hero not a traitor. as a russian built rocket successfully launches from the european space port and french guyana we look at what this journey with the stars means for the world. authorities in kazakhstan say they've restored peace now in a western oil riots on friday left at least eleven people dead the unrest was started by a group of striking all workers during state celebrations marking twenty years of independence local journalist. mina told r.t.
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what happened. oh workers in generalising have been striking for fairly long already for several months if this race or even out but the reemerged in full force yesterday that accent was deliberating its twentieth anniversary so that was a big date and instead of a concert and a celebration there was a riot and people killed the people who were on the video those people the old dressed in cars and their guns uniforms this is fairly strange for a strike there but you're uniformed you know and they were you're moving into organized packs but it looks like that's all workers are there on your way whether they're demanding wages or they're being led by somebody they're taking part. but. since they were just rushing things around. and there were behaving too organized and they weren't attacking authorities and at least until the police came in so it looked like the general persecution said that these are just hooligans who
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started and led the crowd and the crowd was sort of first hit it up it looks like chris this is being led from the outside this could be external forces like other countries intelligence or this could be. sort of local forces who are interesting or thrown in to go in and changing the regime this is jewish and there is said to be very calm and stable nobody that this square nobody is writing a more the internet connection and or years and years and everything it is it falls under a curfew restriction that has been implemented. and you'll court has ruled that iran did support the hijackers behind the nine eleven terror attacks the most suit was filed by some of the victims' families but the hearing was settled by default because the accused including iran's supreme leader didn't appear in court as to not oppose him foot to professor at california state university poor high but without the iranian side actually big court how much credibility does this ruling
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hold do you think this is what we call a carrier record in america this is totally outrageous it's authorized by the american government if we want to look for it we can start was saudi arabia where most of the hijackers came from having lived and worked in arab countries i can tell you there is no way that the arab government didn't know what was going on in saudi arabia we could look to germany where many of them live we could look at american flight schools we could look at f.b.i. agents reported disappears in the spirits did nothing. but in this whatsoever. someone posted on facebook yesterday that next iran will be blamed for snow it will ask you this is the most outrageous lie brother zionist you're going to manage it ok but pull the testimonies in this case came from sri rainy and defect is ok i know you're going to say that but they've stated that iran and hezbollah provided travel assistance for the nine eleven hijackers that was the
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statement of the cia agents concluded that they were credible witnesses and crucially of course the court believed the court believed them why don't you. travel or so students. stopping off at an airport on your way you know then we can go to the european countries there were the some flight started and we can blame boston where flights continue to. where you want to call their trail assistance let's talk about american airline pilots refused to carry guns outrageous none of this would happen would he with the timing of all this coming at a time of course when precious he's been ratcheting up more and more against iran this is this this is happening now is that is it just a coincidence what you think you know the neoconservative renewal trotskyite warmongers are trying to demonize iran even more and build up to a war and unfortunately the average american voter knows so little of what we know
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congresswoman michele bachmann a couple weeks ago was able to say that she would close the american embassy and bring home the investor and staff and that wasn't subjected to great ridicule every american i've talked to so far doesn't know anything wrong with that statement we have a very stupid electorate in the neoconservative trotskyites know they can get away with it or i would pull this case was brought by a number of the relatives all the victims of nine eleven they went through an awful lot this was partially to get compensation from iran it looks now like in theory at least according to this ruling they could get compensation from iran but short of the lawyers can hold the rand to account to make it pay up can they. i hope not if they would talk about. the deaths why don't they investigate the deaths of the flight over pennsylvania and the shooting down by the american air force if they go to any nine eleven truth the web site they can find thousands of americans doing
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serious research and not to any known the controlled media in america for their information well another part of this court ruling as well just looking at it said that iran is she in leadership and it is sunny all parties set aside again another crucial point their mutual hostility to unite against the us is it likely that they would have put their differences aside to unite like this do you think total lie. right after nine eleven i was shocked that the iranian leadership said they would permit american military to use their airspace to attack afghanistan that they would help but have downed pilots they would they would help supply anything else they bent over backwards to help america beyond belief iranian journalists had been murdered by the taliban there was no love lost between the taleban of the iranians this is just a long history of. outrageous lies by the americans in one nine hundred ninety
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five. president clinton spoke before the world jewish congress and said he would not permit a billion dollar plus oil deal with conoco. of the government here has been anti iran for more than thirty years ok poll with thank you so it's on the program paul sheldon foote professor at the state to the california state university thanks for joining us on the line from full instance appreciate it. u.s. military courts open pretrial hearings in the case of alleged whistleblower bradley manning by rejecting a defense request that the presiding officer should step down they claim his other role investigating the founder of wiki leaks makes it biased brother manning who served as an intelligence analyst in baghdad's accused of leaking classified military diplomatic data to the whistle blowing web site he's already been held in detention for nineteen months and could face life in prison or even a death sentence if he's found guilty from a cia officer ray mcgovern told us the american people did need to know about
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alleged abuses carried out by the u.s. army. these charges are greatly overwrought. gates's term so there has been no indication of serious damage to u.s. personnel or those who cooperate with the united states what's the damage is is the revelation of things that the american people should know about and that's what bradley manning was doing by his own players own e-mail see indicated that he wanted this to lead to a discussion and debate and some of the considerations are the kinds of policies that he witnessed the effect so there are agreed ation of values here there is the promise of the written promise that i and others assigned before we became employed and got access to classified information they will not release information that would endangered the national security but the supreme value there is what ethicists call
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a supervening value and that's what bradley manning saw he saw the torture he saw the other abuses he saw the feckless war and he said i can go back and keep my mouth shut like my superiors say or i can follow my conscience at great peril to myself and this is very clear in his e-mails a great peril to myself the american people need to know what's going on so they can make more enlightened decisions. well you can also keep your finger on the pulse the news with camara website running twenty four seven forty five not by a t.v. there tonight we look at how a new build abated in the u.s. congress that we've been reporting on could fill the whole world of media and shake the fundamental principles of free speech on the internet it's an interesting story also without the regular security check we brought this one yesterday at a moscow airport reveals radioactive substances in a suitcase with reports suggesting it was not rainy and citizen involved and if you want to read up more on that the full details at r.t. dot com. russia's own national interest will guide its actions on the global arena
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president medvedev spelled out the country's priorities in view of the recent rift with the u.s. about the missile defense shield in europe which moscow says poses a threat to its security when washington failed to give written assurances that the shield is not aimed at russia moscow deployed a radar system on its western most border. we knew those who knew there were to be we must not let ourselves be intimidated or confused we must clearly understand the goals we are heading for politics is a concrete shrink whatever friendly relations we have if we are not being heard we will answer that's what i had to do it wasn't against obama but against the policy that the us has adopted if they continue to be rude we will respond if they hear our concerns we will work together. in the wake of protests against this month's election results which should be held across russia the president said he saw and heard the people's concerns but he said political changes in the country should be
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started from within and never be a result of outside pressure one such rally wrapped up in moscow on saturday with a turnout of some one and a half thousand supporters of the of likud party which did make it past the seven percent threshold needed to win seats in the state duma moscow square where they gathered became the focal point for protests last week when tens of thousands converged to voice their dissatisfaction with the poll results on our web site r.t. dot com you can find full analysis of all the post election results log on to for exclusive videos for galleries and much. space news one of russia's soyuz rockets is successfully blasted off from a less familiar soil as it carried out french in chile and spy satellites into orbit from a launch pad in french guiana french observation stations will be gathering military intelligence and providing three d. images of targets back on earth while the chilean eye in the sky will let many be used for mapping farmland it's only the second time a russian rockets launched from outside the former soviet union following
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a similar successful mission last one of also in french after america's space shuttle program a shut down so is now remains the only beings taking people in satellites into space. next tonight's we head to one of russia's most restive republics to find out about the battle to stop young people from falling prey to terrorists. you can see exactly where it all about doug a star often makes headlines for all the wrong reasons with frequent reports of insurgency instability high unemployment and low living star this is sometimes blamed as root causes which helped feed militancy and in a culture of reports. the caucasian republic of dagestan in russia is one of the most volatile areas in the country groups of militants operating in this part of the kopassus are reported to have strong links with al qaida look to draw people in
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when they're young and tito arrays are constantly carried out in a time to eradicate the problem although militants usually target police and government officials tourism has often go into the lives of many innocent families across the region because of that a number of organizations have sprung up fighting for victims' rights and helping is also fought to piece their lives back together i had it turns to spend the day would speak. after losing her son three years ago has dedicated her life battling for her people's future. it's a called mr winter morning in the speed line a sign of as always is first in the office the telephone stands serene right as she enters the room it is the usual start of the day for the mothers of dagestan a human rights organization created four years ago and now known across the region today's headline is heading to the outskirts of the capital a single mother of four lives that her husband was killed by robbers and she was
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left with nothing but her children sitting on the brings food clothes and talks to her talking as soon as the most important part offering reassurance to victims that they have not been forgotten your publish our organization mostly helps women it doesn't matter what situation they're in the. there is a need to come to help most of these women don't know their rights or who to ask to help three years ago said lana was in the same position when one day her son failed to return home she didn't know what to do and lost a valuable time that could have been used to rescue him. if i knew then what i know today my rights the right people i could have saved him i could have found out where he was a good have done something. said lois son was accused of helping terrorists in dagestan she fears he was killed but where she still doesn't know these accusations are common in this region young and immature people often become the victims of
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terrorist brainwashing high unemployment also boasts this quite often people that fall under the influence of those with no financial of social prospects and c going into the forests at use them as and for joining terrorist as the only way out for them that's what happened with mariam and it cost her her life she had a difficult childhood was raised without a father and her mother couldn't provide for the family her mother honeymoon remembers how when her daughter started working at the market she met very religious people that. at first i thought there was nothing bad in that but then my little girl started to change she talked a lot about being a real nuisance and we're going to paradise i tried to talk her out of it but she never listened sean listened to her new friends who were. her new friends turned out to be extremists and the last year of her life she disappeared for several months the next time her mother saw her face was on t.v.
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in a report on the latest special forces raid against suspected terrorists these doubly skirmishes are part of a bigger conflict being played out across the north caucasus region the terrorist led by dog who is russia's most wanted militant and on the list of america's most wanted. this one to establish upon caucasian islamist state. in the last decade parts of dagestan has become really just theoretical ice this region is now the heart of precious islamic terrorist problem and almost every day the authorities are engaged in short hours with terrorists and very often that happens even in the capital city of the region. locals say it's hardly surprising muslims are turning to radical islam as they see it as an alternative to the hard life in the region the older members of the community believe a large proportion of those who went to the forest a simply bandits from an am dissatisfied
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a younger generation. if anyone told me thirty years ago their life in dagestan would be like what we see now i would never believe that. the locals want the rule of law enforced and respect it again every turn to a time before terror played such a dominant part in the lives of so many might in the question are you see close up in the republic of dagestan. that's the news looks so far this. is a program to continue max kaiser and co stacy herbert discussed the true cost of keeping the banks afloat in the latest version of the kaiser report from their butts off to recover the day's top stories in a few moments here on r t live from moscow with me kevin owen.
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wealthy british stock. market. can. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max keiser for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines kaiser reports. well into the central sun it's.

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