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welcome back you're with our team here's a look at the top stories hopes of feta finding any more survivors from russia's oil rig disaster with dozens still missing two days after the drilling platform sank in icy waters that's as the last of the fourteen crewmembers found alive are about to arrive back on land. signs of fracture within the syrian opposition while some welcome the government's decision to let observers into the country either slammed the deal with the arab league their interest instead calling for an air of
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military intervention to protect civilians while the syrian authorities persist there fighting extremist armed groups. than three months since the start of a as a corporate protest in the us the occupy movement is still gaining momentum and that's despite police having out of this and some critics warning their rallies would not make it into the winter. i suspect or a victim next i'll get off speaks to former security officer andre look of a way where the british authorities claiming he is the main participant in the murder plot of alexander like many unco. and welcome to the. party.
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this political season brought. back into this world the british authorities keep claiming and. now iraq is the main suspect in the murder plot has dramatically changed his is. an investigation into the attempted murder considering . what's true and how will this matter. is the. truth finally trying to. fix the suspect himself the former security officer turned politician the best. british citizen i'm sure my k.g.b. operative alexander litvinenko died in london five years ago his death was later attributed to poisoning with rare and expensive polonium two hundred ten which made the case a true story and dre little boy who was the last one to meet with an end goal
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before he was rushed to hospital is chief suspect but the russian side treats him as a victim. so request a geisha moscow's refusal to extradite lugovoy after the killing has long soured its relations with longer. than welcome to the show. percival i'd like to congratulate you on your reelection to the state duma kept a seat in the parliament true we needed and will continue to work for the benefit of russia. trade. to the case you have been involved in russia with i c's case as far as i understand russia has never stopped this program to look for one cold case and you have now been officially found to be a victim why did investigators announce the decision just recently five years since those events took place in london walked in the investigators uncover new evidence . something i'd love to point out it's during these five years russian
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investigators have been quite active they questioned a large number of witnesses personally i had to testify several times a year as i understand they managed to get some new information and since we're talking about their radioactive substance called polonium two ten this to gators how to conduct some serious examinations they must have been very complicated because apparently it was the first time law enforcement ran into such a kind of substance use obviously they got some data from these examinations at the same time they were detectives kept working of course i don't know any details of their activities so based on all of that is the lead investigator made the decision he made. russian investigators say that the late listening. to the polonium at that i view with the two to improper handling. one yes they allege that he was attempting to sell its. most and they say that it was exactly well made saying with you and your pardon mr colton. that he was handling the polonium
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improperly even is that true we don't. have to it was my theory it was me three kaufman and myself who suggested that little in income may have been poisoned for improper handling of polonium you know much the same way you may have improper handling of a firearm for example natural in the course of these five years so we conducted our own investigation perhaps we can truly call it in this to give but at least we often pondered trying to figure out what could have been the cause of us with the russian investigators i don't know what theories they're looking at because they don't tell. us anything about it but what's important is that they're able to question and conduct examinations involving russian citizens in two thousand and seven when russian investigators went to london they were denied the right to question anyone except for borys it is also anyone with very soft skin the transcript of the questioning appeared later on the internet and it was told in interview not interrogation and there's also give them
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a budget in contrast to scotland yard who was not limited in its activities during their trip to russia and after they questioned us we were not allowed to cite any of the facts mentioned there because we sign a non-disclosure agreement. they know that the russian investigative committee has arrived at this new conclusion does it intend to go over to london for further investigation what is the next step of course. you probably won't believe it but the fact is that over these five years russian investigators have received only one a formal request from the british authorities their request for extradition so suddenly in their turn russian this to gators have filed more than ten requests asking their british counterparts if you conduct certain activities examinations in questioning of some witnesses unfortunately the u.k. never replied to any of their requests submitted by the russian prosecutor general's office which may be the u.k. does not respond because it's a tradition request was declined. because here's what i have to say on the issue
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many countries in the world do not hand over their citizens and i do not that the u.k. and the us have similar laws in fact every year russian records appear about three kind would cases where russian citizens are accused of crimes they committed abroad requests from abroad you feel they committed a crime outside russia the country in question gathers evidence and sends its going over to russia through official channels. the fact that russia's law enforcement is named to the victim in this case is actually a blessing for you you're not facing the courts here you guys if you're not. viewed as a murder suspect in russia any longer mean affect i've never been regarded as a suspect i was a witness in the case anyway this is positive news for me personally as well as my lawyers and the prosecutor general's office have called on scotland yard to send all were all of the evidence or for their investigation there are many documents in this case we have never received the results of the examinations when is what we will get is
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a positive news for you know what they have to remember about the price you had to pay for it you were exposed to radiation were significant was the damage to health it was serious enough to detect the early symptoms over radiation sickness it was a serious as that which we believe. it was last treatment yes i did had to spend about a month in a hospital that was moscow clinical hospital number six which is now part of the federal medical biological center employees specialists who previously work its nuclear power stations and so on the treatment involved many intricate procedures so we had to do a long list of tests iridium samples were analyzed using some complex math formulas and thanks to prompt intervention by russian doctors the disease was snipped in the bud. as it would. have any symptoms and no long term effects on your health that we still know there have been no effects except for the fact that i have to do medical checkups more often than
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a regular person would have two or three times a year the doctor's advice is to sell it yes tours of duty used to fly in russian list to get is now say that all of you cover littering. and coast where victims in this case should be but who do they accuse of. that it was well i believe it is as follows. with any crime you should look for a person who benefited the most from it i did not have any motive to kill with a nanny and in fact he's family thinks so too. so who could benefit in this case to think it's been. boris berezovsky. for me personally he's among the prime suspects and let's not forget that it was. very soft to get political asylum in the u.k. . came up with a story about a former soviet citizen who was supposedly assassinated with a poison pen my lawyers told me about that case and they have free access to it's near to the peepers looked an income was the only witness in a case
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a very soft getting political asylum it's true i didn't invent this it's true that very soft was granted political asylum illegally six months before the left litvinenko without any money it's important to realize that litvinenko lived off the loans provided by bear is off and stayed together with his family in a house owned by very soft even though there is also he often says that he can encode to get an apartment the truth is that the house still belongs to barry's soft skin lantern enclosed so we know does not deny that it is. not your initial theory was improper handling of radioactive material. it's probably just a word now you're saying it was better results kayo benefited the most trouble is an enclosed. to accuse berezovsky of being behind this tragic event. happened by accident. it's not
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a car show only one theory i can give you two more possible scenarios for example according to littering call himself he was actively involved in what he said was exposing russian mafia and the murder could have been intervened. the reports did mention the name of some spaniard yes also listen in psuedo confirmed that he worked for the intelligence service or for the security service i'm not sure which they have subordination so he could not have acted on his own initiative this whole story geopolitical caution and it was a huge scandal no doubt about that. i just want to police it on the timeline two thousand and seven the murder of on the scale of the death of plutonium caught in two thousand and eight the conflict between south a city in georgia there was a whole chain of high profile events the latest the which is hillary clinton's statement that the russian parliamentary election was a legitimate also this murder could have clued into the hands of some circles oprah dish and maybe american society. some political forces british
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secret services to have played a bigger role in all the so you don't accuse anyone they just say you have several theories but anyway the truth first leads to be a result it was very soft you could provoke lukin in ca to make nereus kinds of allegations it was berezovsky who made lytton in co leave russia in i think it was beer is also a british secret service has approached first which it is just personal and that it was on your part right to business partners of other so in fact we did not have any falling out there was no amity of prior to this event even after the death of luton income and despite the fact the various office was making those allegations very self skews family members while in london were protected by russian border guards from security agency in moscow the contract was not canceled until two thousand and eight so berezovsky family at the currently had
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a reason to trust me he didn't really see us will badri patarkatsishvili i last talked to him but that in two thousand any which was a year and a half since the death of lipmann in several days before his own death was at arkansas it was berezovsky is closest friend and partner to me and he did not believe i did it with and stayed in touch with me so personal and mitzi had nothing to do with it perhaps somebody would like it to be this way but that's not true says a little boy for we were security officers spotlight will be back shortly our poor break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in that really. here in bygone days. to get around.
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welcome back to spotlight i would love and just to remind you that my guest on the show today is andy. of the i let me quote alexander litvinenko as we said among other things i should like you to show some courage and come to london and until your side of the story to the british courts. what sort of summer let's go a lot of periods in london since litvinenko was murdered what do you do you intend to go there at some point yes of course i would like to tell you that i signed a contract with a major british legal firm this summer associated to my interests in london they're now represented by british lawyers league corners scored at its first session on mark case in october. were there by the way they fund out about the hearing
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by accident and then when you were not notified about the hearings so if it was not for that kind students if they could as easily accuse me once again of hiding from injustice my lawyers appearance at the coroner's court was a shock to them since no one expected me to be represented there a tall we made several statements demanding that hearings be conducted in the standard format we also demanded the status of a party in interest in the case so in the study corners court is quite an interesting institution there's nothing like that in the other european countries the coroner's court that used to identify the cause of death before the case goes to. the corners court does not convict but it gives all parties involved an opportunity to state their positions and certain court documents we called for an expanded hearing just like the british government at scotland yard and the crown prosecution service objected because they don't want the documents in the case to be made public the gluten in because we'd also called for
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a wider inquest so now we are waiting for the next hearing which will probably take place early next year in the. case has for years been the main stumbling block in russian british relations spotlights you know that you need of a has more on this story. the last ten years have seen most close relations with london morant by new chill aspinall shelagh ations and extradition disputes namco case closed to russian british relations to cold will levels of the relations have recently proved. remains part of the gender of the three high profile meeting between the two countries politicians. in ankara a former russian security officer fled russia in two thousand escaping legal charges of abusing his power at work in two thousand and one he was granted political asylum in london where he became a journalist and
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a writer criticizing the kremlin spall this is in two thousand and six litvinenko fell ill the doctors established he had been poisoned by a rare and expensive radioactive matto pool that one could died three weeks later on the day he fell ill letting them comment to russian businessman andrey lugovoy and me cheek often british investigators can see those who were to be the chief suspect in the case and want him extradited to the u.k. russian laws does not allow for russian citizen to be extradited to other countries without a trial at home the british officials have refused to send their evidence to russian investigators the russian investigative committee has meanwhile declared lugovoy was also a victim of poisoning as he was exposed to pull on him and had to undergo serious treatment in moscow. feel about the fact that many
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people consider you personally to be the main hurdle that is preventing the russian u.k. relations from improving their rights or certain extent. you know i have thought about it i find it a little strange difficult to come to terms with the idea that i am now a historical figure that is so to speak and not in the sense that i have to reform some great deal of course it is strange to be an issue that to be countries cannot agree on my position is that the british side and using entirely to blame for that who. let us return to the colonel's court players are. it is very typical for the u.k. court system. he said the court has to determine the cause of death. to the current us courts recognize the name was in fact killed doesn't support your version about him and as a result of an accident. the court has yet to look into that would be hearing this was a preliminary its objective was to determine the interested parties in the case these
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parties have been recognized myself mr litvinenko presented to the u.k. government on the court's own initiative mr kaufman unless i'm mistaken there is no suggestion was made to recognize the russian government as an interested party as well i don't know that for certain well i know is that the coroner's court has submitted some questions to the russian embassy which is i understand. sized the same question he says over and over whether we are him please of the. begin i have to repeat that that we were employees of the key g b during the use a saw a period and then we work for the federal guard service. i think the next question is whether if as he blew up residential houses in moscow in one thousand nine hundred ninety provoke a war in chechnya this questions have nothing to do with the case because in the past couple of years you have been the owner of
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a private security firm. that yes yes that's right it's a private security firm but that's just the main business and apart from that we also had stakes in a large number of other companies. let's get back to the courts the easiest way to establish the cause of death is to started a process. this far as i know to date no one except for those who did the examination he has actually seen and of course some of the other papers delivered to the coroner's court there were not in one the coroner who presided over the course but it's a question to the official from the crown prosecution service of. claiming that he needed to decide on the whether to hold an expanded door closed hearing was a barrister from scotland yard stood up and requested the courts to put off the hearing for two weeks because they needed together some more documents two months have passed since this court session has not taken place nor his scotland yard provided the peepers. i don't think there could be any new information as far as
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post-mortem papers are concerned whatever they were filled in five years ago but little can say the same information until their turn to dust up in the archives you will know exactly maybe scotland yard was not prepared for such a situation maybe they expected this first hearing which was a preliminary one take some decision but these it with. they're also reports in the video that the crown prosecution service. has some new evidence on the case which was handed over by scotland yard if you heard anything about that evidence i don't think it's anything serious must be just the media report in the journalist must have been misinterpreted the facts at the coroner's court hearing to the officers of scotland yard rose up and said they needed two more weeks to hand over the remaining papers to the prosecution service would you maybe there is a certain procedure maybe it's to do something else where you can my lords doubt that there could be new documents what's more likely is that they just need to provide more people or some type of those that they submitted along with the extradition request also heard another interesting interpretation russian
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investigators say you're no longer a suspect and a witness say no longer a witness but the victim yes. that is it possible that the british authorities move mr cole to be a friend of yours from the witnesses latest onto the list of suspects you need this is it possible now has the i read of such an option in the paper the reporter from the sunday times. because they're always taking an aggressive stand it was apparently were it the same as papers which you know if that happens to you. i will discontinue any contact with the british side and i will not comment or in any way participate in this case why is that then that it's ok to suspect you but not ok to suspect they weren't suspecting that's all very messed up but when the truth is that there is no new evidence and i must tell you that that meeting of ours it was in there ever captured by anyone. as to how many people there were and who they
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were because the location we used was not equipped with surveillance cameras and it's also unclear what foundation there can be for prosecutions to come up with amy charges merely polonium traces in regard to that i'd like to say once again that is a substance that requires some very serious studies i don't know whether what i'm going to suggest a possible for legal reasons but i just have this idea if there are x. person russian experts in britain why not submit both these reports to some third country where they're reliable expertise in nuclear materials so that they could carry out an unbiased chad. because they were you just mentioned that one of the theories is that litvinenko was employed by british secret service as. something you've always been saying there was no proof to back it up if this is been proved in the court and breaking it in that that indeed collaborated with britain's secret services what does this make your position stronger. i think it does first of all
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whenever i was seeing previously i was accused of lying now it turns out that i was right so no it's the other side that's lying that's one thing another thing is and that's something i want to emphasize which is the british secret services are a very serious secret organization with strict subordination between employees and different levels and therefore no matter what lieutenant could did he could not have done it on his own initiative and finally this is going to prove all my previous statements to be true that being an undercover british agent and listening to travel to georgia that he would go. ross the georgian motoring through the punk you see gorge would further cross border to and i think took up again about kerry as well. ok fine. two thousand which written has charged a number of russian citizens with a speed and there were a series of spies candles a couple of his condos going to do you think that britain's obsessional scene spies everywhere was triggered off the so-called polonium scandal or isn't perhaps true
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that russia's secret service has a soul really active in great britain blade you know secret service is there a separate room no matter what the relationship is like it's going to states they always do their work a bit i'll give you one example back in the soviet times when russia was france with the warsaw pact states he's treme for instance on their secret services still work against each other to quite often that that's why i can a true assad especially if you consider who those ten russian undercover agents arrested in the u.s. were swapped for i see it three out of four worked for m i six strange isn't it these are operatives who were arrested in the u.s. but the swap was with britain and i mean again that's the game's secret services play it's about thank you very much for being with us and just the rumor and get it right get that we should think it was unbelievable goggle politician and former security and defense. if you want to tell yourself like you could always go. back a little bit and comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay
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