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a red faced phone conversation to damage his relationships with allies that he labeled as penguins. a suspect or a victim nextel going off speaks to former security look of boy with the british authorities claiming that he is the main in the murder plot of alexander litvinenko to stay with us. and welcome to the. party. this political season. case back into this world the british authorities keep claiming and. now iraq is the main suspect in the murder plot has

dramatically changed its position. and investigation into the attempted murder considering a victim. what's true and how long will this matter keep score. is there any chance the both sides will finally turn to. fix the suspect himself the former security officer turned politician. british citizen i'm sure my k.g.b. operative alexander litvinenko died in london five years ago his death was later attributed to poisoning with rare and expensive polonium two hundred ten which made the case a true story and dre little boy who was the last one to meet with him and then called before he was rushed to hospital is chief suspect but the russian side treats him as a big. dog speed so reinvestigation moscow's refusal to extradite lugovoy after the

killing has long soured its relations with longer. than welcome to the show. percival i'd like to congratulate you on your reelection to the state duma kept a seat in the parliament true we needed and will continue to work for the benefit of russian. trade. to the case you have been involved in russia with. as far as i understand russia has never stopped its program to look for one cold case and you have now been officially found to be a victim why did investigators announce the decision just recently five years says those events took place in london worked in the investigators uncover new evidence . something i'd like to point out is during these five years russian in this to gator's have been quite active they questioned a large number of witnesses personally i had to testify several times a year as i understand they managed to get some new information and since we're

talking about the radioactive substance called polonium two ten this to gators how to conduct some serious examinations they must have been very complicated because it's currently was the first time law enforcement ran into such a kind of substance use obviously they got some data from these examinations at the same time they were detectives kept working of course i don't know any details of their activities so based on all of that it's lead investigator made the decision he made. russian investigators say that the late listening. to the polonium at that i've used to handling. one yes they allege that he was attempting to sell its. and they say that it was exactly well made saying with you in your pardon mr colton. that he was handling the polonium improperly even is that true. actually it was my theory it was me three kaufman and myself who suggested that

little in income may have been poisoned for improper handling of polonium you know much the same way you may have improper handling of a firearm for example natural in the course of these five years we conducted our own investigation perhaps we can truly call it in this to give but at least we often pondered trying to figure out what could have been the cause as well the russian investigators i don't know what theories they're looking at because they don't tell. us anything about it but what's important is that they're able to question and conduct examinations involving russian citizens in two thousand and seven when russian investigators went to london they were denied the right to question anyone except for borys it is also anyone with very soft transcript of the questioning appeared later on the internet and it was called an interview interrogation and there's also given them a budget in contrast to scotland yard who was not limited in its activities during their trip to russia and after they questioned us we were not allowed to cite any of the facts mentioned there because we sign

a non-disclosure agreement. they know that the russian investigative committee has arrived at this new conclusion does it intend to go over to london for further investigation what is the next step of course. you probably won't believe it but the fact is that over these five years russian investigators have received only one a formal request from the british authorities their request for extradition so suddenly in their turn russian this to gators have filed more than ten requests asking their british counterparts if you conduct certain activities examinations and questioning of some witnesses unfortunately the u.k. never replied to any of their requests submitted by the russian prosecutor general's office which may be the u.k. does not respond because it's extradition request was declined. because here's what i have to say on the issue many countries in the world do not hand over their citizens and it's not true that the u.k. and the u.s. have similar laws in fact every year russian records appear about three kind would

cases were russian citizens are accused of crimes they committed abroad to please upload requests from abroad you for they committed a crime outside russia the country in question gathers evidence and sends its going over to russia through official channels. the fact that russia's law enforcement is named to the victim in this case that it appears is actually a blessing for you you're not facing the courts here you guys if you're not. viewed as a murder suspect in russia any longer in fact i've never been regarded as a suspect i was a witness in the case anyway this is positive news for me personally as well as my lawyers and the prosecutor general's office of cold on scotland yard to send over all of the evidence or for their investigation there are many documents in this case we have never received the results of the examination is that we will that is a positive news for you know what we have to remember about the price you had to pay for it you were exposed to radiation were significant was the damage to your health it was serious enough to detect the early symptoms over radiation sickness

it was a serious as that which we believe. it was last treatment yes i did i had to spend about a month in a hospital that was moscow clinical hospital number six which is now part of the federal medical biological center employees specialists who previously work its nuclear power stations and so on the treatment involved many intricate procedures so we had to do a long list of tests every day and samples were analyzed using some complex math formulas and thanks to prompt intervention by russian doctors the disease was nipped in the bud. as it was so we don't have any symptoms now no long term effects on your health that we still know there's been no effects except for the fact that i have to do medical checkups more often than a regular person would have to do two or three times a year if that other doctor's advice is to sell it yes sort of pretty useless fine russian investigators now say that all of you cover littering go. where victims in

this case should be but who do they accuse of. attempted murder. was well i believe it is as follows with any crime you should look for a person who benefited the most from it i did not have any motive to kill it the man and in fact he's family thinks so too. so who could benefit in this case that the it's been. very soft. for me personally he's among the prime suspects let's not forget that it was. very soft to get political asylum in the u.k. . came up with a story about a former soviet citizen who was supposedly assassinated with a poison pen told me about that case and they have free access to it's near to the papers listen in ca was the only witness in the case of barry's office getting political asylum it's true i didn't invent this it's true that barry's office he was granted political asylum illegally six months before they left litvinenko

without any money it's important to realize that listening to lived off the loans provided by berezovsky and stayed together with your family in a house owned by barry solace even though there is also often says that he can encode to get an apartment the truth is that the house still belongs to barry's soft skin lynton enclosed we know does not deny that it is. not your initial theory was improper handling of radioactive materials is probably just a word now you're saying it was better is also benefited the most from later an enclosed. to accuse berezovsky of being behind this tragic event. happened by accident. it's not a car show only one theory i can give you two more possible scenarios for example according to littering call himself he was actively involved in what he said was exposing russian mafia and the murder could have been intervened. the reports did

mention the name of some spaniard yes also listen in close widow confirmed that he worked for the intelligence service or for the security service i'm not sure which they have subordination so he could not have acted on his own initiative this whole story geopolitical. story it was a huge scandal no doubt about that. i just want to police it on the timeline two thousand and seven the murder of on the political scale or the death of lithuanian car in two thousand and eight the conflict between south a city in georgia there was a whole chain of high profile events we delayed as to which is hillary clinton's statement that the russian parliamentary election was a legitimate also this murder could have clued into the hands of some circles oprah dish and maybe american society. because we knew we had to alter society by some political forces. british secret services to have played a bigger role in all the kawi so you don't accuse anyone you just say you had several theories but anyway the truth first leads to be results it was very soft

you could prove bill clinton in ca to make nereus kinds of allegations it was berezovsky committed litton in coal leave russia in i think it was beer is also a british secret service is approached first which it is just personal and that it was on your part right there is a business partners of shall there. in fact we did not have any falling out there was no enmity of the prior to this event even after the death of luton income and despite the fact the various office was making those allegations very self skews family members while in london were protected by russian border guards from security agency in moscow the contract was not canceled until two thousand and eight so berezovsky family at the currently had a reason to trust me he didn't really see us will badri patarkatsishvili i last talked to him but that in two thousand any which was a year and a half since the death of lipman in several days before his own death was at

arkansas it was berezovsky is closest friend and partner to any and he did not believe i did it with and stayed in touch with me so personal and mitzi had nothing to do with it perhaps somebody would like it to be this way but that's not true says that it will go away for were security officers spotlight will be back shortly break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in less than really. the but. the be. bygone days sleds would fight to get around. but today they're more leisure than lifeline. one drives people to quit their lives unsettled in remote woods. one finds them up to survive in the

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to. me to be soo much brighter than. me about some move from feinstein's passion and some. screams from the stunts on t.v. don't come. welcome back to spotlight i would love and just to remind you that my guest on the show today is. of the who i let me quote alexander litvinenko as we said among other things as he would like you to show some courage and come to london and until your side of the story to the british courts what sort of summit let's go a lot of periods in london since litvinenko was murdered what do you do you intend to go there at some point yes of course it was muzzled like to tell you that i

signed a contract with a major british legal firm this summer associated to my interests in london they're now represented by british lawyers league corners scored at its first session on mark case in october. who were there by the way they found out about the hearing by accident and when you were not notified about the hearings so if it was not for that consonance either they could as easily accuse me once again of hiding from injustice but my lawyers appearance at the coroner's court was a shock to them since no one expected me to be represented there a tall we made several statements demanding that hearings be conducted in the standard format we also demanded the status of a party in interest in the case so in the state the corners court is quite an interesting institution there's nothing like that in the other european countries it was the coroner's court that used to identify the cause of death before the case goes to. the corners court does not convict but it gives all parties involved an

opportunity to state their positions and you should certain of court documents we called for an expanded hearing just like the british government at scotland yard and the crown prosecution service objected because they don't want the documents in the case to be made public list because we'd also called for a wider inquest so now we are waiting for the next hearing which will probably take place early next year. through it. case has for years been the main stumbling block in russian british ration spotlights you know the jimmy there has more on this story. the last ten years have seen moscow's relations with london more of the by mutual aspin not shelagh ations and extradition disputes though it in and case caused russian british relations plunged to caldwell levels of the relations have recently improved. remains part of the gender of the three high profile meeting between the two countries politicians on xander early to an anchor

a former russian security officer fled russia in two thousand escaping legal charges of abusing his power at work in two thousand and one he was granted political asylum in london where he became a journalist and a writer criticizing the kremlin spall this is in two thousand and six litvinenko fell ill the doctors established he had been poisoned by a rare and expensive radioactive matto pool on him that one could died three weeks later on the day he fell ill that even then committed to russian businessman andrey lugovoy and me cheek often british investigators can see those who were to be the chief suspect in the case and won him extradited to the u.k. russian law does not allow for russian citizen to be extradited to other countries without a trial at home but british officials have refused to send their evidence to russian investigators the russian investigative committee has meanwhile declared lugovoy

was also a victim of poisoning as he was exposed to pull on him and had to undergo serious treatment in moscow. voice how do you feel about the fact that many people consider you personally love with to be the main hurdle that has prevented russian u.k. relations from improving their rights or certain extent their lives. you know i have thought about it i found it a little strange difficult to come to terms with the idea that i am now a historical figure that he so to speak. not in the sense that i have to reform some great deed of course it's strange to be an issue that to be construed as cannot agree on my position is that the british side using entirely to blame for that. let us return to the colonel's call it. isn't is very typical for the u.k. court system. said the courts to determine the cause of. the

current us courts recognize the name was in fact killed doesn't support your version about him and as a result of an accident. the court has yet to look into that would be hearing this was a preliminary its objective was to determine the interested parties in the case these parties have been recognized myself mr litvinenko presented to the u.k. government on the court's own initiative mr kaufman unless i'm mistaken there is no suggestion was made to recognize the russian government as an interested party as well i don't know that for certain people i know is that the coroner's court has submitted some questions to the russian embassy which is i understand. sized the same question he says over and over whether we are him please of the. begin i have to repeat that that we were employees of the key g b during the use a saw

a period and then we work for the federal guard service. i think the next question is whether if as he blew up residential houses in moscow in one thousand nine hundred ninety provoke a war in chechnya these questions have nothing to do with the case. and in the past couple of years you have been the owner of a private security firm right. there yes yes that's right it's a private security firm but that's just the main business and. from that we also had stakes in a large number of other companies decisions so. let's get back to the courts the easiest way to establish the cause of death is to started a process. as far as i know to date no one except for those who did the examination you didn't actually see and of course some of the other papers delivered to the coroner's court they were not in when the coroner who presided over the course put its question to the official from the crown prosecution service explaining that he needed to decide on the whether to hold and expand the door closed hearing it was a barrister from scotland yard stood up and requested the courts to put off the

hearing for two weeks because they needed together some more documents two months have passed since this court session has not taken place nor has scotland yard provided the papers. i don't think there could be any new information as far as post-mortem papers are concerned whatever they were filled in five years ago when luke and saying the same information until their turn to dust up in the archives you will know exactly maybe scotland yard was not prepared for such a situation maybe they expected this first hearing which was a preliminary one take some decision lose it with. them there are also reports in the. that the crown prosecution service was told and some new evidence on the case was handed over by scotland yard if you heard anything about that evidence i don't think it's anything serious it's must be just the media report in the journalist must have been misinterpreted the facts at the coroner's court hearing two of the officers of scotland yard rose up and said they needed two more weeks to hand over

the remaining papers to the prosecution service would you maybe there is a certain procedure maybe it's to do something else where you can my lords doubt that there could be new documents what's more likely is that they just need to provide more people or some type of those that they submitted along with the extradition request also heard another interesting interpretation russian investigators say you're no longer a suspect and a witness say no longer a witness but a victim. yes. is it possible that the british authorities move mr coe a friend of yours from the witnesses latest onto the list of suspects this really. is it possible now is that i read about such an option in the paper of the reporter from the sunday times. because they're always taking an aggressive stand was apparently were in the same newspapers which you know if that happens i will discontinue any contact with the british side and will not comment or in any way

participate in this case why is that then that it's ok to suspect you but not ok to suspect that they weren't suspecting that's all very messed up but when the truth is that there is no new evidence and i must tell you that that meeting of ours that was in there ever captured by anyone. as to how many people there were and who they were because the location and we used was not equipped with surveillance cameras and it's also unclear what foundation there can be for prosecutions to come up with any charges to be merely polonium traces in regard to that i'd like to say once again that is a substance that requires some very serious dirties i don't know whether what i'm going to suggest is possible for legal reasons i just have this idea if there are x. person russian experts in britain why not submit both these reports to some third country with a reliable expertise in nuclear materials so that they could carry out an unbiased . you just mentioned that one of the theories is that litvinenko was employed by

a british secret service as. something you've always been saying there was no proof to back it up if this is been proved in the court and breaking it in that that indeed collaborated with britain's secret services russia would just this make your position stronger. i think it does look first of all whenever i was seeing previously i was accused of lying now it turns out that i was right so. no it's the other side that's lying that's one thing or another thing is and that's something i want to emphasize which is the british secret services are a very serious secret organisation with strict subordination between employees and different levels and therefore no matter what lieutenant could did he could not have done it on his own initiative and finally this is going to prove all my previous statements to be true that being a mounted cover british agent to listen in could travel to georgia that you would cross the georgian border in through the gorge would further cross border to chechnya and i think the cupboards in about cari as well. ok five. thousand

which written has charged a number of russian citizens with a spear and there were serious of spies scandals. do you think that britain's obsession with seeing spies everywhere was triggered off the so-called polonium scandal or isn't perhaps true that russia's secret service has a soul really active in great britain. blade you know secret services are a separate room no matter what the relationship is like it's when two states they always do their work a bit i'll give you one example back in the soviet times when russia was france with a warsaw pact states history me for instance that on their secret services still work against each other quite often that that's why i can't rule a shot especially if you consider who those ten russian undercover agents arrested in the us were swapped for i see it three out of four worked for m i six strange isn't it these are operatives who were arrested in the us but the swap was with britain going to guess the game's a secret services play its place about thank you very much for being with us and

just the rumor and get it right get publish ok well i'm getting a little goggle politician and former security and defense for all of us if you want to tell yourself bob like you could always go. back a little bit and comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our team and take.