streets of canada. trying to corporations rule the day. and this is also the headlines. the syrian opposition has played with the government's move to allow foreign observers once again rest in the country some welcomed the decision but others want international military action as recent reports suggest a hundred and fifty more have been killed in violence involving security forces in the past few days. old fourteen survive it from a consulate or reagan russia's farmers to have been vote for treatment in hospital eleven o'clock on sunday while rescuers continue to search for two missing in freezing seas but hopes to make. headline. one

and one of russia's opposition leaders finds himself embarrassed as insults made against allies that leaks him to the internet private phone conversations on berries and sold are likely to damage his relationship with out approaches to the design demonstrators whom he drives as hunters and. up next our interview shows this time talks to form a k.g.b. officer and russian poem entry deputy under him to give orders wanted by british police as the main suspect and this under medicaid is one which most considers him to be a victim. testimony . train story.

and welcome to. the show all the heartache. this political season brought. back into this world the british authorities keep claiming and for now iraq is the main suspect in the murder plot has dramatically changed as is. an investigation into the attempted murder considering . what's true and how will this matter keep score. is there any chance the both sides will finally trying to. fix the suspect himself the former security officer turned politician liberal democrat. british citizen i'm sure my k.g.b. operative alexander litvinenko died in london five years ago his death was later

attributed to poisoning with rare and expensive polonium two hundred ten which made the case a true story and dre little boy who was the last one to meet with him and then called before he was rushed to hospital is reduced chief suspect but the russian side trees him as a big. dog speed solem best to gauge moscow's refusal to extradite lugovoy after the killing has long soured its relations with a longer. welcome to the show and the evil over his first of all i'd like to congratulate you on your reelection to the state duma you kept a seat in the parliament true we needed and will continue to work for the benefit of russia. trade. to the case you have been involved in russia with i sees as far as i understand russia has never stopped its pro bowl to look for one cold case and you have now been officially found to be

a victim why did investigators announce the decision just recently five years says those events took place in london walked in the investigators uncover new evidence . something i'd like to point out is during these five years russian investigators have been quite active they questioned a large number of witnesses personally i had to testify several times a year as i understand they managed to get some new information and since we're talking about the radioactive substance called polonium two ten this to gators how to conduct some serious examinations they must have been very complicated because apparently it was the first time law enforcement ran into such a kind of substance use obviously they got some data from these examinations at the same time they were detectives kept working of course i don't know any details of their attitude is so based on all of that the investigator made the decision he made. russian investigators say that the late listening. to the

polonium at that i view with the two to improper handling. one yes they allege that he was attempting to sell it's on the ark it was the most and they say that it was exactly well made saying with you in your pardon mr colton. that he was handling the polonium improperly even is that true we don't. actually it was my theory it was me three kaufman and myself who suggested that lippman income may have been poisoned for improper handling off polonium you know much the same way you may have been proper handling of a firearm for example natural in the course of these five years we conducted our own investigation perhaps we can truly call it in this to give but at least we often pondered trying to figure out what could have been the cause as well the russian investigators i don't know what theories they're looking at because they don't tell. anything about it but what's important is that they're able to question and conduct examinations involving russian citizens in two thousand and seven when russian investigators went to london they were denied the right to question anyone

except for borys it is also anyone with very soft skin the transcript of the questioning appeared later on the internet and it was called an interview interrogation and there's also give them a budget in contrast to scotland yard who was not limited in its activities during their treatment or russia and after they questioned us we were not allowed to cite any of the facts mentioned there because we sign a non-disclosure agreement. they know that the russian investigative committee has arrived at this new conclusion does it intend to go over to london for further investigation what is the next step of. you probably won't believe it but the fact is that over these five years russian investigators have received only one a formal request from the british authorities but their request for extradition so suddenly in their turn russian this to gators have filed more than ten requests asking their british counterparts if you conduct certain activities examinations in questioning of some witnesses unfortunately the u.k.

never replied to any of the requests submitted by the russian prosecutor general's office which may be the u.k. does not respond because it's a tradition request was declined. because here's what i have to say on the issue many countries in the world do not hand over their citizens and it's not true that the u.k. and the u.s. have similar laws in fact every year russian courts gear about three kind would cases where russian citizens are accused of crimes they committed abroad requests from abroad you for they committed a crime outside russia the country in question gathers evidence and sends its gone over to russia through official channels. the fact that russia's law enforcement is named to the victim in this case is actually a blessing for you you're not facing the courts here you guys if you're not. viewed as a murder suspect in russia any longer in fact i've never been regarded as a suspect i was a witness in the case anyway this is positive news for me personally as well as my

lawyers and the prosecutor general's office of cold on scotland yard to send all were all of the evidence or for their investigation there are many documents in this case we have never received the results of the examination is a positive news for you know what we have to remember about the price you had to pay for it you were exposed to radiation were significant was the damage to your health it was serious enough to detect the early symptoms over radiation sickness it was a serious as that which you would believe. treatment yes i did had to spend about a month in a hospital that was moscow clinical hospital number six which is now part of the federal medical biological center employees specialists who previously work its nuclear power stations and so on the treatment involved many intricate procedures we had to do a long list of tests every day and samples were analyzed using some complex math formulas and thanks to prompt intervention by russian doctors the disease was

nipped in the bud. as it would. have any symptoms and no long term effects on your health that we still know there have been no effects except for the fact that i have to do medical checkups more often than the regular personal to two or three times a year the doctor's advice is to sell it yes sort of pretty useless fine russian list to get is now say that full of you can literally go. where victims in this case should be but who do they accuse of. attempted murder. it was well i believe it is as follows with any crime you should look for a person who benefited the most from it i did not have any motive to kill it the nanny and in fact he's family think so too. so who could benefit in this case that the it's been a. very soft. for me personally he's among the prime suspects and look let's not forget that it was. very soft to get political asylum in the u.k.

. came up with a story about a former soviet citizen who was supposedly assessed and i did it with a poison pen my lawyers told me about that case and they have free access to it's near to the peepers listen in ca was the only witness in a case of very softly getting political asylum it's true i didn't invent this it's true that very soft he was granted political asylum illegally six months before the left litvinenko without any money it's important to realize that litvinenko lived off the loans provided by berezovsky and stayed together with your family in a house owned by very soft even though there is also he often says that he can encode to get an apartment the truth is that the house still belongs to barry's soft skin linton enclosed so we know does not deny that it is. not your initial theory was improper handling of radioactive material. is probably just a word now you're saying it was better results benefited the most from later an

enclosed death. to accuse the result of being behind this tragic event to still playing with what happened by accident. it's not like car only one theory i can give you two more possible scenarios for example according to littering call himself he was actively involved in what he said was exposing russian mafia and the murder could have been intervened. the reports did mention the name of some spaniard yes also listen in to those widow confirmed that he worked for the intelligence service or for the security service i'm not sure which they have subordination so he could not have acted on his own initiative this whole story geopolitical. story it was a huge scandal no doubt about that. i just want to police it on the timeline two thousand and seven the murder of on the scale of the death of lithonia thousand and eight the conflict between south a city in georgia there was

a whole chain of high profile events the latest of which is hillary clinton's statement that the russian parliamentary election was a legitimate also this murder could have clued into the hands of some circles so preditions maybe american society. some political forces. british secret services to deflate a bigger role in all the cars so you don't accuse anyone to just say you had several theories but anyway the trail first leads to bear results it was various off. to make nereus kinds of allegations it was beer is all ski who made luton in co leave russia in i think it was beer is also british secret service is approached first which it is just personal and that's. all it rightly is to business partners of other. in fact we did not have any falling out there was no prior to this event even after the death of luton income and despite the fact the various office was making those allegations very self skews family members while in

london were protected by russian border guards from security agency in moscow the contract was not canceled until two thousand and eight so berezovsky family at the currently had a reason to trust me he didn't really say yes to a badri patarkatsishvili i last talked to him in two thousand any which was a year and a half since the death of lipman in several days before his own death was at arkansas and was berezovsky its closest friend and partner any of he did not believe i did it with and stayed in touch with me so personal and mitzi had nothing to do with it perhaps somebody would like it to be this way but that's not true says the way forward security officer spotlight will be back shortly before break so stay with us we'll continue this interview in.

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welcome back to spotlight i would love and just to remind you that my guest on the show today is andy. andy of the i let me quote alexander litvinenko as we doe i think she said among other things i should like you to show some courage and come to london and until your side of the story to the british courts what sort of summer let's get a lot of periods in london since litvinenko was murdered what do we do you intend to go there at some point yes of course it was muzzled like to tell you that i signed a contract with a major british legal firm this summer associated to my interests in london they're now represented by british lawyers league corners scored at its first session on mark case in october. first were they. by the way a previous be fund out about the hearing by accident and then when you were not notified about the hearings so if it was not for that kind students they could have

easily accuse me once again of hiding from justice my lawyers appearance at the coroner's court was a shock to them since no one expected me to be represented there a tall as elian we made several statements demanding that hearings be conducted in the standard format we also demanded the status of a party in interest in the case so in the state the corners court is quite an interesting institution there is nothing like that in the other european countries or it was the coroner's court that used to identify the cause of death before the case goes to. the corner scored does not convict but it gives all parties involved an opportunity to state their positions and you should certain of court documents if we called for an expanded hearing that is why the british government at scotland yard and the crown prosecution service objected because they don't want the documents in the case to be made public and the internet because we are also called for a wider inquest so now we are waiting for the next hearing which will probably take place early next year obviously the. case has for years been the main stumbling

block in russian british relations spotlights you know they do neither has more on this story. the last ten years have seen most close relations with london more of the buy new chill aspinall shelagh ations and extradition disputes to namco case caused the russian british relations to cold will levels of the relations have recently proved military man could case remains part of the gender of the three high profile meeting between the two countries politicians on xander early in ankara a former russian security officer fled russia in two thousand escaping legal charges of abusing his power it work in two thousand and one he was granted political asylum in london where he became a joiner. criticize in the kremlin spall this is in two thousand and six litvinenko fell ill the doctors established he had been poisoned by

a rare and expensive radioactive matto pool that one could died three weeks later on the day he fell ill leaving them command to russian businessman andrey lugovoy and me cheek often british investigators can see those who were to be the chief suspect in the case and want him extradited to the u.k. russian laws does not allow for russian citizen to be extradited to other countries without a trial at home the british officials have refused to send their evidence to russian investigators the russian investigative committee has meanwhile declared lugovoy was also a victim of poisoning as he was exposed to pool and him and had to undergo serious treatment in moscow. feel about the fact that many people consider you personally to be the main hurdle that is preventing the russian u.k. relations from improving their rights or certain extent. you know i have thought

about it i find it a little strange difficult to come to terms with the idea that i am now a historical figure that is so to speak. not in the sense that i have to reform some great deal of course it is strange to be an issue that to be countries cannot agree on my position is that the british side and using entirely to blame for that . let us return to the colonel's court. is very typical for the u.k. court system. the court has to determine the cause of the. court's recognized. was in fact killed doesn't support your version about him as a result of an accident. to that will be hearing this preliminary its objective was to deter. i mean the interested parties in the case these parties have been recognized myself mr litvinenko presented to absolve the u.k. government on the court's own initiative mr kaufman unless i'm mistaken there is no

suggestion was made to recognize the russian government as an interested party as well i don't know that for certain people i know is that the coroner's court has submitted some questions to the russian embassy which is i understand quite a size the same question he says over and over whether we are him please of the. begin i have to repeat that that we were employees of the key g b during the use a saw a period and then we work for the federal guard service. there the next question is whether if he blew up residential houses in moscow in one thousand nine hundred ninety provoke a war in chechnya questions have nothing to do with the case as in the past couple of years you have been the owner of a private security firm right. yes yes that's right it's a private security firm but that's just the main business and apart from that we

also had stakes in a large number of other companies. let's get back to the courts the easiest way to establish the cause of death is to start a process. as far as i know to date no one except for those who did the examination you didn't actually see and of course. the papers delivered to the coroner's court no they were not in when the coroner who presided over the course put its question to the official from the crown prosecution service explaining that he needed to decide on the whether to hold and expand the door closed hearing it was a barrister from scotland yard stood up and requested the courts to put off the hearing for two weeks because they needed together some more documents two months have passed since they court session has not taken place nor has scotland yard provided the papers. i don't think there could be any new information as far as post-mortem paper. whatever they were filled in five years ago but who can say the same information until their turn to dust up in the archives you will know exactly

maybe scotland yard was not prepared for such a situation maybe they expected this first hearing which was a preliminary one take some decision with this it with. their also reports in the lead that the crown prosecution service was told and some new evidence on the case was handed over by scotland yard if you heard anything about that evidence i don't think it's anything serious must be just the media reporting the journalist must have misinterpreted the facts at the coroner's court hearing the officers of scotland yard rose up and said they needed two more weeks to hand over the remaining papers to the prosecution service would use maybe there is a certain procedure maybe it's to do something else why even my lawyers doubt that there could be new documents what's more likely is that they just need to provide more people or some type of those that they submitted along with the extradition request also heard another interesting interpretation russian investigators say you're no longer a suspect a witness say no longer a witness but a victim yes. that is it possible that the british authorities will not move

mr a friend of yours from the witnesses latest on to the list of suspects this really is is it possible now. i read about such an option in paper of the reporter from the sunday times. because they're always taking an aggressive stand was apparently were it the same is bathers which you know if that happens i will discontinue any contact with the british side and will not comment or in any way participate in this case why is it then that it's ok to suspect you but not ok to suspect they weren't suspecting that's all very messed up but when the truth is that there is no new evidence and i must tell you that that meeting of ours it was in there were captured by the one school knoll d. the. as to how many people there were and who they were because the location we used was not equipped with surveillance cameras and it's also unclear what foundation there can be for prosecutions to come up with any charges merely

polonium traces in regard to that i'd like to say once again that is a substance that requires some very serious studies i don't know whether what i'm going to suggest a possible for legal reasons but i just have this idea if there are x. person russian experts in britain why not submit both these reports to some third country with a reliable expertise in nuclear materials so that they could carry out an unbiased chad. you just mentioned that one of the theories is that litvinenko was employed by british secret service as. something you've always been saying there was no proof to back it up if this has been proved in the court and breaking it in that that indeed collaborated with britain's secret services what does this make your position stronger. i think it does look first of all whenever i was seeing previously i was accused of lying and now it turns out that i was right so now it's

the other side that's lying that's one thing or another thing is and that's something i want to emphasize that the british secret services are a very serious secret organization with strict subordination between employees and different levels and therefore no matter what lieutenant could did he could not have done it on his own initiative and finally this is going to prove all my previous statements to be true that being an undercover british agent and listening to travel to georgia that you would cross the georgian border and through the gorge would further cross border to in i think two cupboards in about cari as well. ok five. thousand which written has charged a number of russian citizens with a spit and there were a series of spies candles. do you think that britain's obsession with seeing spies everywhere was triggered off the so-called polonium scandal or isn't perhaps true that russia's secret service has a soul fully active in great britain. listen you know secret services are

a separate room no matter what the relationship is like between two states they always do their work a bit i'll give you one example back in the soviet times when russia was france with the warsaw pact states he's germany for instance they're on their secret service is still work against each other to wipe off that and that's why a chemical especially if you consider who those ten russian undercover agents arrested in the u.s. were swapped for i see it three out of four worked for m i six strange isn't it these are opportunists were arrested in the u.s. but the swap was with britain and i mean again that's the game's secret service has played its place you both thank you very much for being with us and just through more and direct my guest on the show today was unbelievable god will call efficient and form of security and also for all of us if you want to tell yourself you could always go. back a little bit and comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our team and wouldn't take.

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