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why not. gonna. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cons are for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause a report on our. more news today violence is once again flared up. and these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are all today .
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all right so i did not come down here alone believe me there's a really hard working crew that made all this possible today and that includes their favorite ilona show producer jenny churchill. we would be a lot of show had been covering on the by wall street and day one but this is the first day that we've actually been down here however the mainstream media has been kind enough to follow all about the kinds of people that are here we want to give
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you a flavor of some of the people who are down at this particular location at least here on wall street so let's take a look at some of the pictures that we have the pictures of we have all dave this guy right here he's apparently a fugitive he's wanted for burglary and words are out for his arrest but he says that he found out that hiding out at this protest would be a great place to not be found garbage is everywhere new york post describes a scene where drugs are being sold people urinating in different kading in public it's a mixed bag but they were happy to take some time from their books span job bongos sports drinks they're passing out free condoms has been open sex going on there are drugs easy to score i don't know it seems like they might actually have a good feel for you here but i want to completely disagree obviously so i'm here to figure out once and for all who's right and who's occupying wall street basically we've been hearing from the mainstream media that only people down your adventure
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with the internet you know we're trying to figure out who it's here who are you i saw and who cares it's work countries go karts i'm currently a second year psychology student in the u.s. army veteran i'm not one of those dirty hippies that they say down here i'm not one of them trust fund babies you know my foes are retired my mother is a retired church secretary they both voted republican i thought for the bush i'm a doctor and i'm here in my uniform because i wanted to show that well we're not just a bunch of dirty hippies were average americans you know it doesn't get more american than the boy scouts i'm a student i'm sixteen am here with you i was part of the original people that were kind of consulted about like what to do during the operations here or in general. are one of the original well i'm an old hippie but for a different reason do you know where we can score since he drives. no there's no drugs no alcohol free so i. have
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a pounding myself so. yeah there's no drug use in the park i mean we have cops around us twenty four seventh's coffee i know i know that you have a criminal record but you can shop you can trust me you can talk to me please. ok. then what you see just people running around having fun that. make it. not you know not at all i'm serious i mean no you're here working where all the business my first question is what percentage of the food that they're serving can cause. none. of the fifteen dollar heroin how do you see the fifteen dollar heroin time i have not. the closest thing is probably the guys that roll cigarettes is it possible that the people here are shielding you from all of the free sex drugs and hippies because you are a boy scout. i hope not i hope not last question are you
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a dirty if. i don't believe i'm dirty or a hippie it feels to me like you might be feeling that even if there are good people here that it just seems that my friends well why does it matter whether they're hippies punk rockers you know metal heads hip hop heads or whether they're into jazz or classical music it's the idea that as a citizen people are finally realizing that being an american citizen means more than just trying to have a big bank account. all right so for a while the mainstream media completely ignored the occupy wall street movement now they just mock them but there are a lot of reporters out there that are spent sleepless nights to bring us every single detail one of those is salon dot coms justin elliott who we spoke to. i think here we are a couple hours now please get here clean up the park like this is our
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last for more than one person said. that the sad that he was going to live. hard clear out of place and now with more things going on right well i mean really salvatore moved here the people who i was shocked i've been here for two weeks of covering covering the protests covering the city's response to it and it was recently about twelve hours ago last night the mayor and why police commissioner were saying that they were going to basically forcibly clear the park they were starting forcing the rules to get sixty bags against targets and so on which of those rules are not and of course in the past month the criticism here something happened overnight somebody blinks either to me here or the company here in this park which is called for real properties international realty for. so the story of what happened and why why they decided not to bring the police in here i'm sure will come out at some point in the coming days but do you think something might happen the fact that they're getting why they don't want more about you know they
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want seven hundred people arrested. i think that's a big part of it if you like he had come in to do some sort of addiction or to let the company clean the park a little bit international media story i mean there is a man of me here from around the world just staggering there's a lot of talent here about a week. we've been doing very well why and i would like the place i think for me getting the people in the cars now the cameras and by their. grief. for a nice change radically in the first couple weeks i want to think you heard from the protesters when entering the bill i would say you know that the mainstream media blackout on the story. right. if anything now it's the office of problems like the sad free market saturated media. anyone time to buy only be several
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hundred protesters here sometimes it fluctuates thirty thousand i mean there's usually goes to camera crews from around the country and around the world a lot of foreigners here he said here press coverage in the times is covering it all the local press is covering it. kind of press coverage i think actually warranted because this is really the center of it for around the country. so yeah i mean to hear the our success i think you came out of the study of that last week the percentage of press coverage you could occupy wall street it was seven percent covered up two percent the week before so i mean clearly been successful in suppressing. my party i. think the protesters. want to bring. more rain because. i think if you're willing to protest the media is still pretty positive i mean when fox news shows up here you should take it head cold. i think r.c. had radio for all those from fox coming up here and sort of hi there and can't
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develop any sort of had to leave the party but generally speaking i found that they were very welcome to be interviewed i mean they're here to get their message out about economic justice and about you know reform on wall street in the political system. there's a little bit of a break from that last night here in the organizing about people who are people who are getting briefed on what to do if they got arrested there's a little bit jumpy to get a photograph of that group but not really sure why but generally speaking i think they want to tell their story i think i'm sorry. i think they are accurate i think. yeah i think i think there's been really broad and i mean you didn't hear anything you didn't really have to leave or you didn't hear. now every day you're seeing a different you local union standing in the polls that really brings more diversity
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for me some time frame. so well. yes i think there's been cooperation between occupy wall street folks who are here the beginning and the labor unions i believe the local actually i used the service workers union in providing food if i think there are plans for the local let's say you do i have a medical truck here to preclude shots that are going to be staying over the winter c.n.n. seems like a good relationship really if you see people coming in from all over the country who've been attracted by the message i've seen abroad. and just then just the fact is growing in scope. other than other magazines basically the same thing i mean again and still no clear goal or demand. here and there is a demand for discussing this day obviously the broad theme is still kangaroo wall street banker and economic inequality you know demand her for jobs and economic
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justice in this country i think it's just. nice that there are. three there not because they were there. they are now at a private party right axis i. guess he'll be asked so many things but right i mean am i pay basically beginning in this thing is to turn wall street proper respect you like south park into a sort of militarized zone they really have their heavy equipment out there they have their mounted police they have a lot of metal barricades are really not like the protesters go there at all. there's a there's a fair amount of anger at mayor bloomberg here i mean i don't think it's often anyone that he i believe is either the richest or the second richest man the city basically bought them a oral office for three terms a perfect example of what they're protesting exactly and he's also course he's been very publicly critical. the protests in the end and their message so there was a lot of anger at him last night when it looked like they were going to get elected . that's broken this morning after the city and the company of which mayor
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bloomberg longtime girlfriend actually sits on the board of directors of her field the company that owns this park after the mayor and the company stepped back i'm really going to complain about them this morning but we saw no it's going to happen going forward so at this point doesn't he think that these guys are going to say yeah i mean i don't they're they're not going to go willingly i mean if the company has said that they think that they can come to a negotiated agreement i don't i'm not aware of those negotiations having started these protests are still breaking what the company has said are the rules of the park including not having sleeping bags and tarps and so on so i think it's hard to say at this point where it's going i doesn't think i might get my. heart does not last break but coming up we have a panel discussion if an interesting twist on happy hour. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you
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knew you don't know i'm tom hardy welcome to the big picture.
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so we try to get a couple of occupiers together so we could hold a panel discussion and i guess do it in something much like their general assembly democratic style take a look. hi guy thank you so much for joining us we've been covering occupy wall street since day one and our studio in washington we finally got a chance to come down here to speak to the people themselves and we've also spoken to a lot of journalists are a lot of people have been reporting on it but i want actual occupiers i want your stories so if you could first to start off by introducing yourself telling me who you are and why you're here and how long you've been here my name is paul are from what you you know are worker from los angeles california i came to new york to do
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a job and got postponed i happened across here and i'm just not content with the way that the direction the country is headed right now my name's mark bray i'm a peer c. student i'm a member of the occupy wall street press team here for my friends and family who have mounds of student and medical debt and just simply can't get by. my name's josh lewsey i'm from miami florida and days one through nine in a moment second trip they are saturday coming back from miami right even take a little time off work so now we were here last night about one thirty two o'clock in the morning everybody was cleaning up getting ready for police to come bust this down basically seven o'clock and start cleaning and suddenly i ended up not happening were you elated were you excited what was the reaction when you realize that that eviction notice maybe wasn't happening quite yet well i was really excited i mean first of all i'm happy that we can hopefully comp with some sort of a resolution or we can stay here because it's important that we have
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a right to protest respected and also really so the strength of our movements really important victory now there were of course the marches that were going on on the side today and there were some arrests josh i know that you witnessed something you tell us about it. arose for civil disobedience i saw. a softly speech down a protester pretty badly. what triggered it i don't know i didn't quite see it but it's what the relationship been like with the police thus far i mean do you feel like it's been adversarial are you guys. are you enemies here or the policeman trying to be respectful of you i've found it seems to be that most that generally the officers are very pleasant and every once in a while you run across an officer that just looks at you like you're a piece of gum stuck to the bottom of the shoe bomb but generally i personally i try and walk up to them and tell him hey you guys have a thankless job i'm sure you catch a lot of scott from people here but that you for being there i'm sure your families
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face you ok so each one of you tell me that you're unhappy with the system in the way it works and you have friends you have family members that have been affected by what is occupying the body part really going to do to fix that i think we're bringing the message to the symbol of power really which is wall street you know that's were at least to my view. government corruption and self starts it's where campaign finance and the revolving government corporate door store do you think of this is that this is the center of corruption well i think wall street an important symbol of the economic corruption in our society are basically this systematic denial of working class people of the basic things they need to get by and you know obama talked about change you can believe in but he didn't really change anything and so this is something that say what you will is the change ok so if somebody play needs that lee how it's been going down i know you've been here since day one and i know you've been here for a while paul what are the general assembly's you know what's the routine general
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assemblies or the horizontal democratic process through which the camp is run and decisions are made basically. you know everything from when do we stop drumming or you know we need to sanitation department medical you know all these things kind of organically come out of the g. and i find the fact the route of driving kind of interesting because i know that at the local residents that ask you perhaps if you could keep driving out for just two hours a day. and from i wasn't here yet so i was reading reports of people week they're saying that maybe this is where we saw little bit of division amongst the occupiers was whether they want to drama all day long or those that like a little silence of the true while we welcome people who want to express themselves artistically we decide the car with a way that we could all sort of work together and get along and i think you can see the value of our democratic procedure that we managed to accomplish that that's a good so what gets accomplished after every general assembly that you take part in off why it seems to me that because the democratic process of the general assembly
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. there is no hierarchy that says this is how we're going to do things it's a vote amongst the populace share of how things are going to happen if the residents of the neighborhoods around here are upset we need to accommodate them because we're not trying to cause turmoil here we're trying to get a message out personally i would like to see campaign finance reform happen out of this of course i have a whole laundry list of things that i would like to see change throughout our government but. it's happening all over the world and i just i think social media for being the biggest part of getting the message out globally now a lot of replied critique this movement for a lack of a coherent message and i'm wondering if aside from you know the fact that they're using just one piece of paper out there there isn't one motto one slogan does it
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worry you that there is no one single leader was not the way you said there's no way of decreeing suffering right but you need one leader to at least be the face of the voice for everyone else absolutely not. oh yeah this is absolutely not and so. it's a wonderful thing really because. everyone takes part in it everyone's a leader just by showing up just by talking despite the dissipating. leading this entire movement. it's also a lot of value because it's more difficult to call up something you wore. assassinate the character of an organization true leader two which one thing we've managed to accomplish by having it be leaderless and distributed much like anonymous and for too long we've been waiting for a while leader who is going to do things for us but we've seen now that the control that these financial institutions have over a leader is just simply means we need to look at our political involvement fundamentally differently and that's what we're trying to do now it's co-opting something these guys really worry about i'm not concerned about for example unions or community groups trying to do that there are those are our allies working
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together i am concerned about some politicians and political parties but i do mean there are some of the biggest donors right in the democratic party you also have a lot of people appreciate some of the big union bosses that might have too much power that unions have brought us so much good in this country that they probably also done some bad things but. the message that we're trying to get out is that we're all want to work trying to sustain a middle class in america. if it seems to me whether they're democrats or republicans they're in someone's pocket i would like to see someone of my stature able to represent me in congress right i also want to ask you you say we are all one about the tea party i mean at the beginning the tea party started out also be angry about wall street bailouts right about government and was very polluting we too close to each other corruption and now they're a wing of the republican party but at the root you guys have the exact same goal
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and yet the tea party i think if the tea partiers interview them up myself they don't have very nice things to say about you know what you have to say that well well i'd say that you know we welcome the tea party members and join us you know i think that you're right that there are a lot of fundamental overlapping goals that we have and we want to bring in all sorts of different voices and we welcome them to come here and participate but we're speaking about one of the fundamental differences though is that we're not a political party we're trying to change things differently we're not just trying to sort of replicate the same process that's failed previously so i'm sorry. they have negative things to say but we're trying to bring them in so what is changing things differently actually going to look like do you mean a revolution i mean you have any idea where this is really heading what i would really like i can only speak for myself you know of course you know everyone here but i'd like to see through the rule of law restored my country i'd like to see our elected officials honestly serving the needs of the people which they are hired to do that's why they get elected and they're really not doing that but how do you
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really go to make sure that they do that. before we have to go i think you know i mean to me fundamentally we need to treat the situation as the crisis that it is and say when people have no housing and jobs and they are trouble putting food on the table that has to be the top priority for what we do and so that's that's been put off to the side for too long in the interest of the financial institutions and so we need to push things of immediately put things strong and fundamentally re-order the priorities of our society and that's not going to be easy and it's not going to happen quickly but why why we're out here bob how far are you willing to go short of violence i'm willing to do whatever it takes to get changes made in america all right so as you know by wall street movement has now grown really around the world but first starting across the country and so we had some people go out to occupy l.a. i thought if i do see how we ask that there are any messages that they want us to bring here for you so let's take a listen to what. happenings that thank you new york for bringing this about thank
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you citizens of america for having a voice keep doing what you're doing we're doing what we're doing down here and we're all in this together solidarity gratitude an incredible amount of gratitude for your courage and an appreciation. of all you've done thank you for starting this the so exciting thank you the mystery how broad you by wall street is that were installed there with you and working out down here and we hope you come visit a glorious notion would be to see people march from new york city down to one. in d.c. and make their demands on congress we're with you one hundred percent and you've been an inspiration to everyone not just in america but across the whole world don't stop don't ever stop stay there get arrested yell scream plead big do what you have to do to get everybody that you know and everybody that they know to see what nobody wants to see this is it this is our revolution this is our time every era has its movement and this is ours and this is our future and we're getting it
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back. right so you've heard what they have to say if you have any responses or any message you want to send back absolutely. thank you guys so much we're here in solidarity with units. in other cities and around the world you're coming together to support our cause and make the world a much better place. it's really the support is overwhelming and the fact that we spread so far is really almost a little hard to believe but a very exciting and it shows that we face the same kind of circumstances and problems all throughout the country and even beyond in europe and asia latin america and so i'm very excited to see that and. i want to keep going. i guess a join us get involved to raise awareness. this this movement isn't going to go away people with twenty two percent of the children in america living in poverty that's not right in this country and people a twelve percent approval rating of congress people across the country are angry
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and it's time for their voices to be heard that turn off your t.v. get outside get involved ok so that was then i think that we had to say right to the other occupy movement really quickly any responses that you have towards fox news sean hannity bill o'reilly that's a crack head and dirty hippies well it's just it's astounding the lengths to which that the some conservative media outlets will go to paint us as the referee bait and drug dealers if you can. now here you can see exactly what we're up to brats the sizing our right to participate democratically and even if you disagree you should be able to respect that. just come and actually talk to some of us attila the sick sean hannity bill o'reilly i just look this way i'm actually a nice honest hardworking caring compassionate individual. we love you guys like really thank you we want to thank you for joining us today thank you. i guess that's it for tonight's show we're really happy that we could bring it down
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to new york even if just for one day not there's something that i observed is that these aren't just angry and frustrated americans they are that but they're also hopeful that things can change for the occupy wall street movement continues or takes another shape they feel like something is happening in this country and they're part of it and all the alone or show fans we met out there today thank you so much for watching this is why we do what we do we back in washington d.c. on monday coming up next is the new.
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is this a threat of war iran spotted a u.s. aircraft carrier near their borders shortly after the country made threats to cut off a crucial oil supply and i will find out if the u.s. is inching closer to another battle in the persian gulf the kind of comments he made about the israelis somebody wants to take us back to the banking system that obtained before the civil war that's pretty strong stuff even for libertarians he's been labeled as friends even extremists but are ron paul's views really that different from those of the american people and i will determine why he's the latest target of the g o p.

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