the. defense choose one that they gonzo sense and will be launched sooner or later as palestinian militants fired two rockets in retaliation avoid a strike. iran says it's ready to talk ton chips that get too close to its war games near a vital for every morning its threats to the passage of the west proceeds with tough sanctions. and egyptian security forces are great human rights groups offices nationwide critics claim the military leadership is using mubarak era type takes to tell them that. as the headlines now let's cross over to our washington studios for that you want to show off next.

well here we are in new york city in security guard at occupy wall street as soon as we finish the show this evening we jumped in the car and got here is basses because about one thirty in the morning it's already started raining it's going to be raining for they say the next twelve hours and there's a lot of excitement here you still hear a lot of chanting but also a lot of tension because the cops are supposed to show up at seven o'clock in the morning if you look over here you already see a big line of police cars and that's when the start cleaning the park out as the mayor ordered now they say they're going to let people back in but they say no sleeping bags as you can see why the protesters consider this an eviction notice so they've been preparing for the worst holding meetings all evening talking about what happens if you get arrested if you're in jail what your rights are and it seems like a lot of people really are preparing for a showdown there might be a lot more people in the morning too we're going to have to wait and see what happens but from the people that i spoke to they said that when they asked who was willing to get arrested

a lot of hands went up so only the morning i'll tell what happens. well can they alone are shouting at the real headlines with none of the mersey now as you can tell tonight we're coming live out of new york city we've been covering dr hua street movement since the day that it began and so we decided you know what it's just not right unless we bring our team we come down here and we check it out for ourselves so tonight it's going to be completely dedicated to occupy wall street coverage now as you saw last night when we first got here one thirty two o'clock in the morning the mood was pretty tense they thought the police were going to show up at seven o'clock in the morning but this morning it was announced that they had rescinded brookfield had rescinded that move to have a part clean up so check out what it looked like after that announcement was made.

around the brain may not be any more opposite the second the others are to be announced at the cleanup but. the rest of the everybody broke out to the degree that all the bomb drums or the like from our general assembly. their lives by the hour now the word part of the law at the mercy of the police and the rest but that being the impression. that they're getting started and of course that is a bill on the ballot but they feel like they've won the battle for the. so as you can tell everybody was in pretty good mood today and so one of the things about this movement is that it doesn't have a leader and the critics of the movement think that this is something that's bad about it this is what's going to make it fail but if you talk to the people that are there that's what they love about it is that there is no hierarchy here this is a democracy the whole general assemblies everyone's voice is heard but at the same

time there are a few faces that have become i guess you could say a little more recognizable one of those is a protester named jesse at le grande and the way that he became recognizable is first because he did a number of interviews with mainstream media outlets where i'd like to say think that he really demolished them so first we're going to show you some good clips of what he said to them and then you can check out the interview that he did with us. the reality is i'm only working class person you're going to see on sunday news political news maybe ever and i think that's very indicative of the failures of our media to report on the news that matter most where we are trying our best to see and i want to thank you unfortunately it's one that's all to. the to the specially conservative network such as yourself because we find that we can get conversations on the carpet just as your fixation is pushing which you already know we can certainly question like you know why are the great teachers place work for the

thirty years ahead of our living standards decrease while the one percent to ten or the i think it's time for maybe i know some participation in our democracy that isn't funded by news cameras just the same. i just think so at this point basically what happened is a fox news interview then didn't air the interview somehow it ended up on the internet and you're like the most famous guy that never got aired how does that feel. like not the raw materials back in my apartment it's not like paying off the set but you know that's not the point it's everybody here it's our future it's our jobs our homes our health care education so if i'm in a position where i can really fight for what i believe in life and these my friends think that's really. well you know it's interesting is he really happy one of the better known faces at this that this might lead to cancer the media and everything to say to me the media ignore it the movement now there are kind of cameras here

but you are on the sunday morning talk show and you said i'm probably the only working class person you're ever going to see on a sunday talk show do you still think that's true absolutely i mean the wall street journal wrote a really accedes where they didn't mention how i got on a.b.c. by exactly fox news and news corp but they declaw me a disney animatronic version of a revolutionary and it's funny because the i just kind of got lazy you said he was on the disney own channel you must be a cartoon character then they would say was that. the working class background of the members of the panel and i'd just like to say on behalf of them they're not sleeping in this park they're not losing their health insurance they're not worried about their families losing their homes losing their jobs not be able for education so with all respect to these the battle of the a.b.c. this week from last week i want to bad mouth them but as for the hack down of news corp oh yeah he's the kind of guy who likes to see democrats are racist because they feel that black people as opposed to calling them and he's like the republican party like. are you revolutionary i would like to think that i'm

a reformer at heart i mean you know dr martin luther king jr turned this sort of movement a revolution dr cornel west told us not to be afraid to use that word and i feel that you know the hardest thing is we're just asking the quorum to stop that's a big thing you know they're really trying to repeal the twentieth century i don't think it's revolutionary to stand for what we fought for twenty years ago four years ago sixty years ago and say no you're not going to steal this too so if that's you know class warfare in their ears then sign me up you know it's ok tell me exactly what it is you think this crime is right you could say that it's a crime that was very committed in terms of taking our economy and it never being held accountable but it's not just wall street even though not by lottery and never and also not going to i mean you have what i would call you know the political economic complex one hand washes the other the private sector hires the politicians they want when they're in office they do their bidding and then they're guaranteed a job in this section of the economy that they have oversight over once they leave office so to me it's on legalized bribery system but my point of view is that it's

to be a private industries that bribe the politicians so the private industries are at the top of the apex of the corruption and when you look at like specific cases of fraud that's i.e.d. wrote a great piece about whether the f.c.c. is covering up crimes for wall street and i would have used the same title without the question mark i really respect that i think you did not see any heat but when the f.c.c. starts investigating one of these crimes then the goldman sachs like hire the investing. then they take the initial motion to investigate they just destroy the documents and that's illegal so my opinion it's not only corporate crime it's corporate capture of our government and if we really believe in democracy we can allow b.p. to buy in the government then just as responsible for you know the actors in the i remember allowing themselves to be corrupted and to be bribed it is i told the agree i think we need feature in the finance reform i think we need a major restructuring of the us our political system i also think at the same time

that i don't want to deflect away from the real culprit here which is wall street you know it's almost like if you got paid by someone to rob a bank who is guilty or a person who actually was the banker first debate in the doing i think they're both guilty and i really don't want to deflect away from that who i think is the real actor in this major financial institutions ok so i'm just wondering to you know i've spoken to some tea partiers and i said you guys have the same message at the beginning here and so what went wrong but they went down the political route and they're saying that this is how this movement should go to but others say no the entire system needs to be a point though you still think that by voting by passing legislation maybe repealing our you know passing meant for the constitution to get rid of the supreme court citizens united ruling that can still function you don't need a complete of the you know i think you need from both angles because let's be honest that's the you're going to start a third party you're talking that's when you're at whichever party you split there is going to be the other is like do we really want twenty years of republican controlled congress no way so i think you need both mechanisms the thing with the

tea party was their agenda was to elect republicans their agenda was to revamp of public employee from their soiled name under george w. bush and these exceeded because the media just pretended they didn't know what was happening that is different to not by wall street and the tea party is occupy wall street is about changing the future about making the future better the tea party was about going backwards into a past where there is no civil rights no labor rights no government at all so i think the two are diametrically opposed. but the keyboard part of the other ninety nine percent is you know these people i'm sure that they have trouble with what unemployment i can imagine what they think when their politicians tell them oh you must be lazy you know i'm sure there are tea partiers who don't have health insurance or danger much of their health insurance and i only wonder how they rationalize voting against a reform bill that thinks elvis i mean let's look at this if they honestly think that the government has no role in creating jobs or governing the economy how do they dare have an opinion on it but at the same time they think and they say that the the latest tea party members and i thought you said that all these occupy wall

street people want sherrybaby that las vegas harappan the bailout shouldn't happen they just want bigger gigantic government is that true so you just want a government that works very hard as i do and i want a good government one that functions properly and the right wing wants a credible government that can just be steamrolled by wall street so to me that's you've already it's just been doing all of the legwork for wall street i mean they've really been very very good to them and it says to me everything that this movement wants to push for a better direct citizens democracy where the tea party was a letter about electing house republicans who would vote against abortion and block obama's jobs bill i mean the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell he's said my number one priority is to end the obama presidency it should have been jobs right i mean how comparable is that with all the hysteria even their own hysteria about the deficit they still admit their number one goal is to sabotage the present united states how is that possibly a good service to america if anything when nine eleven happened we all said all we

have to support bush you know i didn't vote for bush but i supported him at that moment in history because it was about america why is this not a similar moment in history where we're facing this massive crisis and these guys just can't get over the partisan nonsense they can't get over the petty bickering and it's not helping i really think it's hurting us if their plan was to filibuster the entire obama presidency so they can blame all bush's disaster on him there and they've been doing a heckuva job brownie. you know but at the same time you know how do you feel about obama would you vote for obama in two thousand and twelve and i don't know if dog by walk through me dies down ever and camped out for a couple months and it goes away you know at my big plate right now with democrats on the many things is that they're lending us our support and i appreciate that but i don't need to plan a trip i don't need nice words i need action i need them to actually take wall street on see what they're doing right now is saying we support by wall street but they're not see the about what the clients see complaisant will see that it's all about oversight for indictments i mean in my view the rights are these guys under

rico it really is a very connected intricate web of lies that they've spread so to the democrats out there i'd just like to send a message that you will not co-opt us if you really want to show us some support about being leaders yourselves but until then because our government has seized the function we've created one of our own and to me this isn't about capitalism i'm not against capitalism i'm against crime i only wish the democratic party was against it as much as i am maybe then i'd feel stronger exporting ok so we're talking about one certain type of crime is going on punish right at the federal a coming from wall street how do you juxtapose that with clever see here i mean there have been mass arrests right seminary people arrested on the present bridge there are a number of arrests today for people jumping over a barricade standing in the middle of the street. i mean when it comes to present obama his cabinet positions have just been in the pocket of wall street his policies have been much more conservative than i would care for and it really kind of blows my mind you know we've seen the results of these failed conservative

policies under bush why does the think that the c policies under obama would yield anything other than the sea of failed results you know yeah but obama is responsible for the cops that are down there right and they're doing their jobs but we need to think about just you know the daily it being the bad in our country focuses on it would you say that line order that justice actually get here i see that you know it's kind of like the ninety nine percent versus one percent i think there are a lot of cops are good guys i've got some my best friends from. when i was speaker's all right let me right now so i really have a hard time saying anything derogatory about and when i would say that if we value our second amendment and tenth amendment rights then we should pay close attention to the right to freedom of assembly because i didn't see anything in the constitution saying you can only assemble until eleven pm or if the park is clean breaking the law and that nonsense i think that's very extra constitutional so when it comes to civil liberties yeah pay attention because you know especially since they triac we are turning into a more close society i want to hold inside you know i want open society with all

that freedom and liberty and you betting god you know also that stuff that they may hear in the media but i don't see that it seems like the same people who go on about also betty gotcha and they don't really care about spying on citizens cell phones will be haiti a score of is kuantan a mole massive offenses against civil liberties and i think if you're really a constitutional patriot then you can't just be you know buff a style constitutional teacher you can't take the parts you like leave the parts you don't like it's the whole thing or nothing you know i guess and i think it's an experience that you very much i appreciate the time. all right we're taking a quick break but there is a lot more where that came from as we continue our entire show that dedicated to occupy wall street now it might be in here right here in new york where occupy wall street began but we know it's spreading across the country so we're going to speak to some other occupiers in d.c. and los angeles and britain have a special guest david house. sure

is that so much a lot of people are curious they're listening. to the tumultuous year two thousand and eleven the world changed in ways hardly anyone predicted we witnessed the rise of people power on the. world. technology innovation. developments around russia we've got the future of covered. are now like i said new york city might be the epicenter where the humble beginnings of the occupy wall street movement began but as you know it's spread across the country around the world even but we sent our producers where we could in d.c. and in los angeles to get some messages from the occupiers there and then later on the show we're also going to bring them to the occupiers here in new york take a look. this is history in the making as far as i'm concerned the idea that there

are people starving in america is unconscionable the fact that people are starving around the world is unimaginable but here where people have such wealth. it it doesn't make any sense and we all know this and it needs to change you guys got so much money that is unnecessary that you are dealing with you are just buying more housing buying more material that you just don't need millions of americans have been pushed into poverty and homelessness there are tent cities in central california that i cannot believe exist in my own country you know just open your eyes and take a look it's only going to get worse all they hear occupy d.c. because money runs everything in america we have the rule by the rich and what we need is the rule by the people people to the scene that you know as soon as you get private banks teaming up with big corporations that it's the ninety nine percent of the people that you know wind up being pushed to the bottom and that's exactly what

happened and you know people actually did something there's an opportunity now to not be silent and complicit with. don't agree with we want good jobs back in our communities we want corporations to be held accountable by paying their fair share paying taxes and invest in our community what i'd like to see is that the occupation movement gains legitimacy as able to rebuild institutions the way we want them to be and slowly make the government irrelevant i think we're going to win i think it's going to change i think we're going to embarrass the people who are busy and lear jets sailing yachts while people are living in the street i hope it goes as far as we can and maybe someday they will give in so we are doing and help us out there's a spare an american now that has a sense that maybe the people can actually make something happen and i don't think that americans had that spirit for a very long time the five hundred thirty five men and one of. congress there are no

they've got their finger to the wind and the more wind we give them the more the pattern will start to shift the cowards will become less cowardly and the brave ones will become more bold inside capitol hill all right so the way that we first found out about wall street is that people started sending us messages on twitter sending us messages on facebook they literally started blowing us up about it so you can't deny here that social media technology played a very important role in getting the word out and i guess you compare that to to the arab spring to the protests we've seen rise up around the world and who better to talk to us about that than david how someone who's been a frequent guest on our show. so david i think a lot of people know you because you're hocker because you're a friend of bradley manning and you're supporter of bradley manning's out here with the leaks but what are you doing here while i came down to the occupy wall street protest after seeing occupied like it wasn't going to last and be better to occupy

london is much like it or here it's a bunch of students single mothers workers who have come together because they're very upset about the state of their and they've had some criticism of media what are their demands which they really want to do come down to the party get the sense that everyone in the present economic condition that's world is a cause that was very interesting i could actually talk to her terror is so troubling to republicans to give a crop and to get their ideas out watch the fix upon it but i came down here to be part of the process and to help what i feel is the public i'm very popular group and the same kind of feel like when you walk around here it speaks to the experience republicans and democrats everybody from all walks of life it hasn't seen a lot of really there's as nearly only you know left wing and just a lot of young news lots right well it's important to note that the media that paints it that as an artist or whatever. works in the obligations i would say.

the principles the people who are opposing the economic condition of this country is always be very bad it's an economic condition it's called to be different percent unemployment among americans has kept students from receiving student loans and they have to work very hard to get a job at a school that is kept away from that if you can fix it or out of the situation which many people are very upset about and obviously the news media has been somewhat in bed with these major corporations fox news a missing piece e c n n so of course they're going to paint this protests as a marginal like to be when you come down here it's not these are american citizens to people that believe red white and blue and they're here. to find answers to the world's problems the democratic process that medicine because you don't do a lot about rights i was there for someone like you to come down here and see this pretty much you see it also a lot of people that are full time activists that this is what they look at the word evil or you know how do they compare to the young in the middle of that maybe

even right now just feel like they're in this band and the ninety nine percent they can't get a job and they want to act out just right at this moment right where you don't see god i've been seeing a lot of time out because i would say here most people like matter people would just walk up to the streets of new york and say what's going on they grab a lawyer and then they come back because they loved occupiers there kitchen or use their shower or use books for the library this is a very community led burn and that's why it's very bizarre that you hear these talking points for going back to rush limbaugh these people are somehow professional walk to this they're trying to call some kind of markings on the bushes it's hard to hear that and into looking new yorkers laborers people come up and give them food and say to get rich doing this organization occupy wall street has raised over one hundred fifty thousand dollars in the three weeks i've been here you'll do that approach a lot to do it out with your community but after that supported by the people of the city the people of this nation and now we're seeing this spread not only across

the country you know it's a it's already outside of new york it's in most major cities but if possible that's what gets you but it's also spreading around the world more than seventy countries are having this october fifteenth and i think that's a really interesting development because originally the war on my last really good that's not that's never was asking where's america's tahrir square right where we can have our american spring and so we were sort of playing off what was going on in the middle east and so now how do you see that dynamic change or is this still a continuation of what the arab spring started it's only you know passing through the u.s. continues on around the world or is occupy wall street now influencing other countries it's a very good question but i think it is related to the technology of the internet at me about about a possible. the internet really does the basic it allows you and i think communicate in ways that we may not have been able to communicate before all to collectivize around certain ideas they want people to strongly about those ideas to go out and have to consider a way for this idea with the internet dollars to really create the marketplace of

ideas which is what democracy should be all the time so by kind of degradative the traditional old media control over talking points and information by making pundits are relevant they can in new york times the role that putting information democratization the heads of the people what you get is a movement like this a true democracy that is fed by technology so yes this is hard to hear square and to hear square is big out from the internet it's completely amazing technology now was driving this movement and that's really the fuel for topping right here on my wall street who do you think really fits into this is that where they actually have access economics right because of course they're sell a lot of people in the world there's a lot of injustice poverty whatever you want to call it where they barely have a dollar a day to live on or access to water at any good let alone a cell phone. right now there's a huge digital divide especially joe we saw all the protesters were organizing to use a cell phone i don't think that's water but one source i just had some bread people still had to go into the community to do community work to rile up the people that

didn't have access to the internet to say these i did sort of get the word but what was interesting is that about thirteen you did a drug we're able to work together all the lawyers to come up with the best ideas the ones that would appeal to the masses the pose and then go out there and spread that message and it took over it took over so we're seeing that same thing here occupy wall street is a democratic process where people have gathered together online and physically in order to find out what solutions we can offer what to buy not solution it's not certain that we're going to go in the community and spread this idea and we don't think that's what it's about it's not about people who are leading people about leading an idea now when you read stuff. it's a player role played a role in the arab spring revolutions something said here you think that wiki leaks playing a role i mean of course that we see that. afghanistan where lots of iraq war lives in the south a lot of practices state department cables they are not the thing that i know the

big the most ever came to say the right behind this is that we can be strong and people passed by that we could be struck which is an art installation here we're going to showcase with you and they always have a comment like oh i want to that's really what do you think going to gauge people in conversation and you learn that most everyone here has heard that we can be pretty safe and if you want to go if you want to say do we live in a post wiki leaks world they would say ha they'd say definitely so it seems like we can beat this somehow was stowed some dignity back upon the people by really showing that we are in our world through the use of technology no longer we're just in the street just screaming into the void screaming it was building but when we go along we can use our information resources to accomplish great the traction trial and state authority in a real meaningful way that's what we could be showed us and that's their legacy right now and that's their legacy here offered by what i said you think that's likely to continue on if we can make stuff because of course everything is very

nice out there there are a lot of places where the police are going to be supporting the science more are going to say it's definitely so would be this and showed us is a substance is the currency on capitol hill this vitriol and that deception flows from wall street itself we can it's like i suppose related just to say it's really the same principles that people have as it is to do stories about people being killed overseas or being tortured not you know the stuff whatever happens if you leave the saudi but ever happen so when you meet the big little fire and the five rebel sweeping across the nation sweeping across the world and i believe in the form of occupy wall street is their legacy yes definitely and we can think wiki leaks about legacy now i'm sad it's sad. i think that's about all three you know i was like ok you know. what you did i'm bringing up what's your idea say where the skinny guy actually takes the system i think. what we have lost as a nation is accountability now we have

a leader that we can go to and say listen you've been incompetent or you're bit more old they kicked him out of office we really have no basis of society or try to each other or judging our peers when i walk down the street and i see you a lot of walking down the street i feel like i'm an american and you're an american i'm related if our leaders are on the same walls that we're in there because we're balance by that system those are our principles and our values and what our leader george bush or whoever sacrifices that or they say the constitution doesn't apply internationally they undercut the democratic process and so what this is about is restoring values back to america how the community come back together it's a want to our principles our poor principles a good to go back to the light bonaire ideals months and not believe that when i did a lot that's what i did what i bring to the table i think values it's very important that's what we did occupy wall street that's what we need this country now lastly i think it is at this interview with us and we thank you for taking the time to get on a bus i'm going to go back to boston and i live boston where you say you're going for

the winter and they camped out are you going to be very much friends that are in the snow and everything as much as possible to to live in boston on some cold winters and one of the biggest problems that is how to keep people warm during the occupation during this whole time so i'd heard everyone watching this interview can see still they brought to my wall street off by boston for ideas about how to get people warm warm weather or just somebody pass through to go and buy a bigger tent and or sleeping dogs or people the reason this is so effective and because we're speaking with our feet is like if you're square we're saying we're persistent and we will last through the winter because we care that much but we need warm weather clothing and we need support from our citizens to do this so i'll be off to fight boston i'll be sitting out there every night i'm able and the horse . the poor people are able to give them more time i'll be able to spend out there in the square with people occupying the city i gave to his immaturity snakes or other. areas there is a lot more coming up so stay tuned if you want to miss it.