tv [untitled] December 29, 2011 10:01pm-10:31pm EST
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baggs you can see why the protesters consider this an eviction notice so they've been preparing for the worst holding meetings all evening talking about what happens if you get arrested if you're in jail what your rights are and it seems like a lot of people really are preparing for a showdown there might be a lot more people in the morning too we're going to have to wait and see what happens but from the people that i spoke to they said that when they asked who was willing to get arrested a lot of hands went up so only the morning i'll tell what happens. welcome they alone are shouting at the real headlines with none of the mersey now as you can tell tonight we're coming live out of new york city we've been covering dr hua street movement since the day that it began and so we decided you know what it's just not right unless we bring our team and we come down here and we check it out for ourselves so tonight it's going to be completely dedicated to occupy wall
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street coverage now as you saw last night and we first got here one thirty two o'clock in the morning the mood is pretty tense they thought the police were going to show up at seven o'clock in the morning but this morning it was announced that they had rescinded brookfield had rescinded that move to have a part clean up so check out what it looked like after that announcement was made. around the break there may not be any more opposite the second the other parties in town made a clean up of the believe. everybody broke out in san bickering but all the same on the drums the dogs are going from our general assembly even down there by by our other words by far the riders are the worst of the police and the rest but if anything be a part of the problem that they're getting started and of course that is abuse of the colonists but they feel like they've won the day the battle of the.
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so as you can tell everybody was in pretty good mood today and so one of the things about this movement is that it doesn't have a leader and the critics of the movement think that this is something that's bad about it this is what's going to make it fail but if you talk to the people that are there that's what they love about it is that there is no hierarchy here this is a democracy the whole general assemblies everyone's voice is heard but at the same time there are a few faces that have become i guess you could say a little more recognizable one of those is a protester named jesse and the way that he became recognizable is first because he did a number of interviews with mainstream media outlets where i'd like to say think that he really demolished them so first we're going to show you some good clips of what he said to them and then you can check out the interview that he did with us. the reality is i'm the only working class person you're going to see on sunday news political news maybe ever and i think that's very indicative of the failures of our
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media to report on the news that matter most work we are trying our best to see and i want to thank you unfortunately it's fun to talk to the end of the media the specially conservative media that we're such a shill because we find that we can get conversations on the market just on your fixation news corp which you already know you know we can certainly ask questions like you know why are the great teachers let's work for the thirty years ahead of our living standards decrease well that's what percent better than ever i think it's time for maybe i don't know some participation in our democracy that isn't funded by news cameras that just such. a jet and so at this point basically what happened is a fox news interview then didn't air the interview somehow it ended up on the internet and you're like the most famous guy that never got air how does that feel . considering i got like not the raw materials back in my apartment it's not like paying off to sit but you know that's not the point it's everybody here it's our
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futures it's our jobs our homes our health care education so if i'm in a position where i can really fight for what i believe in my family he's my friends and that's what we do. well you know what's interesting is he really happy couple one of the better known faces at this that this might lead to cancer the media and everything to say to me the media ignore it the movement now there are kind of cameras here but you're on the sunday morning talk show and you said i'm probably the only working class person you're ever going to see on a sunday talk show do you still think of that serial absolutely i mean the wall street journal wrote a really happy where they didn't mention how i got on a.b.c. by exactly fox news and news corp but they declaw me a is the animate slanted version of a revolutionary and it's funny because the i just kind of got lee's he said he was on the disney own channel he must be a cartoon character then they went to his. spouse of the working class backgrounds of the members of the panel and i'd just like to say on behalf of them they're not sleeping in this park they're not losing their health insurance they're not worried about their families losing their homes losing their jobs not be able for education
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so with all respect to these the battle of the a.b.c. this week leslie i do want to bad mouth them but as for the hack down of news corp oh yeah he's the kind of guy who likes to say democrats are racist because they feel that black people as opposed to calling them and he's like the republican party like. are you revolutionary i would like to think that i'm a reformer at heart i mean you know dr martin luther king jr turned this sort of movement a revolution dr cornel west told us not to be afraid to use that word and i feel that you know the hardest thing is we're just asking the crime to stop that's a big thing you know they're really trying to repeal the twentieth century i don't think it's revolutionary to stand for what we fought for twenty years ago four years ago sixty years ago and say no you're not going to steal this too so if that's you know class warfare in their ears then sign me up you know it's ok tell me exactly what it is you think this crime is right you could say that if the crime that was three committed in terms of taking our economy and then never being held
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accountable but it's not just wall street even though not by lottery and never and also not going to i mean you have what i would call you know the political economic complex one hand washes the other the private sector hires the politicians they want when they're in office they do their bidding and then they're guaranteed a job in this section of the economy that they have oversight over once they leave office so to me it's all legalized bribery system but my point of view is that it's the a private industries that bribe the politicians so the private industries are at the top of the apex of the corruption and when you look at like specific cases of fraud mattes i.e.d. wrote a great piece about whether the f.c.c. is covering up crimes for wall street and i would have used the same title without the question mark i really respect that i think you did not see any heat but when the f.c.c. starts investigating one of these crimes then the goldman sachs like hire the in. ask you then they take the initial motion to investigate they just destroy the documents and that's illegal so my opinion it's not only corporate crime it's
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corporate capture of our government and if we really believe in democracy we can allow b.p. to buy that in the government and just as responsible for you know the actors in the government for allowing themselves to be corrupted and to be bribed it is i totally agree i think we need major campaign finance reform i think we need a major restructuring of just our political system i also think at the same time that i don't want to the flight away from the real culprit here which is wall street you know it's almost like if you got paid by someone to rob a bank who is guilty or first you actually rather take the first debate in the do i think they're both guilty and i really don't want to deflect away from that who i think is the real actor in this at major financial institutions ok so i'm just wondering to you know i've spoken to some tea partiers and i said you guys have the same message at the beginning here and so what went wrong but they went down the political route and they're saying that this is how this movement to go to but others say no the entire system needs to be reforms though you still think that by voting by passing legislation maybe repealing or you know passing amendments to the
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constitution to get rid of the supreme court citizens united ruling that can still function you don't need a complete you know i think you need from both angles because let's be honest that's the you're going to start a third party you're talking it's one of your movement and whichever party you split there is going to be the other is like do we really want twenty years of republican controlled congress no way so i think you need both mechanisms the thing with the tea party was their agenda was to elect republicans their agenda was to revamp of public employee from their soiled name under george w. bush and these days they see that because the media just pretended they didn't know what was happening no difference you not by wall street and the tea party is occupy wall street is about changing the future about making the future better the tea party was about going backwards into a past where there is no civil rights no labor rights no government at all so i think that you are diametrically. pose but the keyboard part of the other ninety nine percent is you know these people i'm sure that they had trouble with one of the women i can imagine what they think when their politicians tell them oh you
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must be lazy you know i'm sure there are tea partiers who don't have health insurance or danger much of their health insurance and i only wonder how they rationalize voting against a reform bill that thinks self-interest i mean let's look at this if they honestly think that the government has no role in creating jobs or governing the economy how do they dare have an opinion on it but at the same time they think and her face that the the latest keep fighting everything that i knew that all these occupy wall street people want cheri they think that wall street is harappa the bailout should not happen they just want bigger gigantic government is that true so you just want a government that works very hard i say then i want a good government one that functions properly and the right wing wants a credible government that can just be steamrolled by wall street so to me that's you've already is just been doing all of the legwork for wall street i mean they've really been very very good to them and it says to me everything that this movement wants to push for a better direct citizens democracy where the tea party was a letter about electing house republicans who would vote against abortion and block
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obama's jobs bill i mean the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell he's said my number one priority is to end the obama presidency it should have been jobs right i mean how comparable is that with all the hysteria even their own hysteria about the deficit they still admit their number one goal is to sabotage the president and states how is that possible good service to america if anything when nine eleven happened we all said all we have to support bush you know i didn't vote for bush but i supported him at that moment in history because it was about america why is this not a similar moment in history where we're facing this massive crisis and these guys just can't get over the partisan nonsense they can't get over the petty bickering and it's not helping i really think it's hurting us if their plan was to filibuster the entire obama presidency so they can blame all bush's disaster on him there and they've been doing a heck of a job. brownie you know but at the same time you know how do you feel about obama would you vote for obama in two thousand and twelve and i don't know dog by wasser bill may die down ever and camped out for a couple months and it goes away you know at my big plate right now with democrats
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a many things is that they're lending us our support and i appreciate that but i don't need to platitudes i don't need nice words i need action i need them to actually take wall street on see what they're doing right now is saying we support by wall street but they're not see anything about what the client seeking places will see the it's all about oversight for indictments i mean to my view the rights are these guys under rico it really is a very connected intricate web of lies that they've spread so to the democrats out there i'd just like to send a message that you will not co-opt as if you really want to show us some support about being leaders yourselves but until then because our government has seized the function we've created one of our own and to me this isn't about capitalism i'm not against capitalism i'm against crime i only wish the democratic party was against it as much as i and maybe then i'd feel stronger and supported ok so we're talking about one certain type of crime that's going on punished right at the family coming from wall street how do you juxtapose that with clever see here i mean there have
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been mass arrests right seminary people arrested on the brooklyn bridge there are a number of arrests today for people jumping over a barricade standing in the middle of the street. i mean when it comes to present obama his cabinet positions have just been in the pocket of wall street his policies have been much more conservative than i would care for and it really kind of blows my mind you know we see in the results of these failed conservative policies under bush why did they think that the c policies under obama would yield anything other than the sea of failed results you know yeah but obama is responsible for the cops that are down there right and they're doing their jobs that we need to think about just you know the daily it being the bad that our country focuses on it would you say that line order that justice actually get here i see the you know it's kind of like the ninety nine percent versus one percent i think there are a lot of cops are good guys i've got some my best friends. when i was speaker's all right let me right now so i really have a hard time saying it be derogatory about and what i would say that if we value our second amendment and tenth amendment rights then we should pay close attention to
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the right to freedom of assembly as i didn't see anything in the constitution saying you can only assemble until eleven pm or if the park is clean or anything alone that nonsense i think that's very extra constitutional so when it comes to civil liberties yep it's because you know especially since a patriot act we are turning into a foreclose society i want to open society you know i want open society with all that freedom and liberty and you bet god you know also that stuff that they will hear in the media but i don't see that it seems like the same people who go on about also betty gotcha and they don't really care about spying on citizens cellphones revolting hevia score of is kuantan a mole massive offenses against civil liberties and i think if you're really a constitutional patriot then you can't just be you know buff a style constitutional teacher you can't take the parts you like be the parts you don't like it's the whole thing or nothing you know i guess and i think if i can say that you very much i appreciate it sir. all right we're taking
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a quick break but there is a lot more where that came from as we continue our entire show that's dedicated to occupy wall street now it might be in here right here in new york brought by wall street began but we know it's spreading across the country so we're going to speak to some other occupiers in d.c. and los angeles and britain have a special guest david house. wealthy british soil the sun. that's not on the telephone. market why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our. download the official altie obligation to go on the phone on
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called touch from the top story. one life on the go. video on demand all keys money gold costs and already says feeds now in the palm of your. question on the dot com. more news today violence is once again flared up the phone these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations are the day.
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i know like i said new york city might be the epicenter where the humble beginnings of the occupy wall street movement began but as you know it's spread across the country around the world even but we sent our producers where we could in d.c. and in los angeles to get some messages from the occupiers there and then later on the show we're also going to bring them to the occupiers here in new york take
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a look. this is history in the making as far as i'm concerned the idea that there are people starving in america is unconscionable the fact that people are starving around the world is unimaginable but here where people have such wealth. it it doesn't make any sense and we all know this and it needs to change you guys got so much money that is unnecessary that you are doing with you are just buying more housing buying more material that you just don't need millions of americans have been pushed into poverty and homelessness there are tent cities in central california that i cannot believe exist in my own country you know just open your eyes and take a look it's only going to get worse all they hear occupy d.c. because money runs everything in america we have the rule by the rich and what we need is the rule by the people people to the scene that you know as soon as you get
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private banks teaming up with big corporations that it's the ninety nine percent of the people that you know wind up being pushed to the bottom and that's exactly what happened and you know people actually did something there's an opportunity now to not be silent and complicit with a system that don't agree with we want good jobs back in our communities we want corporations to be held accountable by paying their fair share paying taxes and invest in our community what i'd like to see is that the occupation movement gains legitimacy as able to rebuild institutions the way we want them to be and slowly make the government irrelevant i think we're going to win i think it's going to change i think we're going to embarrass the people who are busy in lear jets sailing yachts while people are living in the street. cars ok and maybe someday they will give in to what we are doing and help us out there's a spare an american now that has a sense that maybe the people can actually make something happen i don't think that
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americans had that spirit for a very long time the five hundred thirty five men and one of. congress there are no they've got their finger to the wind and the more wind we give them the more the pattern will start to shift the cowards will become less cowardly and the brave ones will become more bold inside capitol hill. all right so the way that we first found out about wall street is that people started sending us messages on twitter sending us messages on facebook they literally started blowing us up about it so you can't deny here that social media that technology played a very important role in getting the word out and i guess you compare that to to the arab spring to the protests we've seen rise up around the world who better talk to us about that then david how someone who's been a frequent guest on our show. so david i think a lot of people know you because you're hacker because you're a friend of bradley manning anger supporter of bradley manning here with wiki leaks
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but what are you doing here well i came down to the occupy wall street protest after seeing occupy london was among the last ten meter to occupy london it's much like peter here it's a bunch of students think of all the workers who have come together because they're very upset about the state of there and they've got some criticism of media what are their demands what they really want me to come down to the floor to get the sense of everyone to the present economic condition let's world a cause that was very interesting i could actually talk to her terror is so true with the republicans to give him props and to get their ideas about the watch to fix the economy but i came to be part of a process to help what i feel is a public a very popular group in the state. you feel like when you walk around here it speaks to the experience republicans and the democrats everybody from all walks of life because it seems a lot of them are really there's a. fairly only you know left wing and just a lot of young slots right well it's important to note that the media that paints
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this movement as an artist or whatever. certain obligations i would say to the principles the people who are opposing the economic condition of this country is all these three very bad it's an economic condition it's called to be dipping percent unemployment among americans has kept students from receiving good loans and if they have to work very hard to get a job at a school that is kept labor that if you think cetera this is a situation which many people are very upset about and obviously the news media has been somewhat in bed with these major corporations fox news a missing p.c.c. and it so of course they're going to take it just protests as a marginal like to be when we come down here it's not these are american citizens these are people to bleed red white and blue and they're here. to find answers to the world's problems to deal with drug problems that medicine because you do a lot about rights analysis for someone like you to come down here and see this people you see you know also
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a lot of people that are all time activists that this is what they look at the iraq war you know how do they compare to the young in the middle of that maybe right now just feel like they're in this band and the other ninety percent they can't get a job and they want to act out just right at this moment right where you don't see you know i've been seeing a lot of time out of it i would say here most people i've met are people that just walk away from the streets of new york and say what's going on they grab a lawyer and then they come back they want to talk if i research it or use their shower or use books for the library this is a very community led and that's why it's very bizarre that you hear these talking points for going back to rush limbaugh these people are somehow professional walk to this they're trying to call some kind of mark the leadership it's hard to hear that and it's a look at new yorkers laborers people come up and give them food and say thank you for doing this organization occupy wall street has raised over one hundred fifty thousand dollars to three weeks then you and you got it ready to walk me through
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that with your community but i have heard that supported by the people of the city the people of this nation now are seeing this spread not only across the country you know it's a it's already outside of new york it's the most major cities but in boston what gets you but it's also spreading around the world more than seventy countries are having this october fifteenth and i think that's a really interesting development because originally before i thought i was really gay that's not that's never was asking where's america starwars where right where we can have our american spring and so we were sort of playing off what was going on in the middle east and so now how do you see that dynamic change that is the silicon to the way to know what the arab spring started it's only you know passing through the u.s. and continuing on around the world or is occupy wall street now influencing other countries it's a very good question but i think it is related to the technology of the internet. about a possible. the internet really does the basic it allows you and i did communicate in ways that we may not have been able to communicate for people to collectivize around certain ideas they wanted people to strong look at all those ideas to go out
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and i'm going to consider waiting for those ideas with the internet dollars to really create the marketplace of ideas which is what democracy should be all the time so by kind of degradative the traditional media control over talking points and information by making pundits are relevant they can in new york times the role that putting information democratization the heads of the people what you get is a movement like this a true democracy that is spread by technology so yes this is hard to hear square and to hear square is because from the internet it's completely amazing technology now is driving this bit and that's really the fuel for topping right here on my wall street who do you think really fits into this system that where they actually have access to technology right because of course there are cell lot of people in the world there's a lot of injustice poverty whatever you want to call it where they barely have a dollar a day to live on or access to water at any good let alone self. right now there's a huge digital divide especially joe we saw all those protesters were organizing to
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use cell phone pickets water but once those ideas that spread people still had to go into the community to do community work to rally the people that didn't have access to the internet to say these i did sort of get the word but what was interesting is that about thirteen you would need to were able to work together all the law to come up with the best ideas the ones that would appeal to the masses the vote and then go out there and spread that message and it took over it took over so we're seeing the same thing here occupy wall street is a democratic process where people have gathered together a law and physically in order to find what solutions we can offer what we find out solutions that certainly will go in the community and spread this idea and we don't think that's what it's about it's not about people who are leading people about leading an idea now when he leaves. it's a player all played a role in the arab spring revolutions something nice to. hear anything that wiki leaks playing or i mean of course that we see that. afghanistan where lots of iraq
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war lives in the south a lot of practices state department cables they are not the thing that. the big three most ever came to they are right behind us is that we can be strong and people passed by that we could be struck which is an art installation here we're going to showcase with you and they always have a comment like oh i want to that's really what do we think going to get to the point conversation and you learn that most everyone here has heard that we can be pretty safe and if you want to go if you want to say do we live in a post wiki leaks world they would say ha they'd say definitely so it seems like we could be somehow stowed some dignity back upon the people by really showing that we are and how we're through the use of technology no longer we're just in the street just screaming into the void screaming it's lost buildings but when we go along we can use our information resources to accomplish great the structural trial and state authority in a real meaningful way that's what we could be showed us and that's their legacy right now and that's their legacy here offered by what i said you think that's
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likely to continue on with the banks that's because of course everything is very nice out here there are a lot of places where the police are going to be supporting the science more of the states and definitely so would be this and showed us is that substance is the currency on capitol hill has been and that deception flows from wall street itself with its legacy is related just to say it's really the same principles that people have as it is to do stories about people being killed overseas or being tortured not you know this that whatever happens if you leave aside whatever happens to when you meet they have lit a fire and that five rebel sweeping across the nation sweeping across the world i believe in the form of occupy wall street is their legacy yes definitely and we can think what you think about legacy now i'm sad it's sad. and i say this about the premier i like the idea of. what you're doing bringing up what's your idea say where the spinning actually takes the system i think what we have lost as
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a nation is accountability and now we have a leader that we can go to and say listen you've been incompetent or you did it for all they can take them out of office we really have no basis that society or touching each other for judging our peers when i walk down the street and i see you a lot of walking down the street i feel like i'm an american and you're an american i'm related if our leaders are the same walls that we're in there because we're balance by that system those are our principles and our values and what our leader george bush should be about first sacrifices that or they say the constitution doesn't apply if you're not leave they undercut the democratic process and so what this is about is restoring values back to america having your community come back together and say want to our principles are poor principles they've got to go back to the lightman their ideals what's that not been in the bill but i did a lot that's what i did and i bring the table i think values that's very important that's what we did occupy wall street that's what we need this country now lastly i think it is at this interview with us and we thank you for taking the time to get
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on a bus i'm going to go back to boston and when i buy boston where you say you're going for the winter i'm going to camp out are you going to be very much friends that are in the snow and everything as much as possible to open a living golf and out some cold winters and one of the biggest problems that is how to keep people warm during the occupation during this whole time so i'd heard everyone watching this interview can see still with a dog by wall street off by boston for ideas about how to get a warm warm weather or just somebody pass through to go and buy bigger tents and or sleeping dogs or people the reason this is the way back to because we're speaking with our feet is like if you're square we're saying we're persistent and we will last through the winter because we care that much that we need warm weather clothing and we need support from our citizens to do this so i'll be off to five balls and i'll be sitting out there every night i'm able and the more support people able to get the more time i'll be able to spend out there in the square with people occupying the city i think is a much greater stake for housing.
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