reminding him that he's so. what is it looking like these protests going to be twenty twelve i mean are people going to come out back onto the streets in the new year we have the u.s. elections coming up for president what are people talking about in this movement going to continue. very much so this movement is going to continue and it's going to put pressure on us president barack obama as he runs for a second term and his all the republican candidates to address this growing issue in a roading middle class what is most interesting i found in speaking to all the optimist and supporters of the occupy movement is how much they are aware of the amount of money that corporations are donating to our presidential candidates to u.s. lawmakers and that is an issue that every american citizen i've spoken with that's taking issue with they do not like the way the u.s. system is structured because they believe it does not work on behalf of the u.s.

citizen they believe that the corporations have too much influence over u.s. leaders and that at the end is who is controlling the decisions made for the united states so this is a huge issue it's not going to go away and it's occupy wall street movement if anything they have now forced i debate that the u.s. leaders lawmakers and you know presidential wannabes will have to address in the coming months. seems like the occupy movement will not be able to be ignored coming into the next year. live from new york this new year's eve thanks for being with us . though if you just joined us very good to see you and if you're wondering what we. make of it oh no no it's. out for the next here on the banks of the river preparing to see in two thousand and twelve will you see a lot of fireworks over our shoulder very shortly i was just actually looking over my shoulder that i'm starting to see the people packing up and so. to walk towards

it ready for the big fireworks display who bring you that spectacular show to a bit later and fittingly it started the kind of the snow and sleet as it were the middle of it and i like the coverage continues well if you're enjoying it know going to get some analysis next on the cool and the background on the occupy movement i believe we can join our guests in new york. just want to make sure we have our guest. max from rome joining us from new york we seem to be having a little bit of technical problems thanks for bearing with those demonstrations claim they're being kidded by the so-called fat cats the one percent minority which consists of the richest americans who control most of the countries well do you think that justifies all of these protests that we've seen in twenty eleven. i think probably not the people in other words i don't know if there are some cases in which people are really angry at particular individuals who they feel have done too well or made too much money but we do know which is a very established fact of american life lately and of economic life particularly

is that for the last thirty five years real wages have not gone up in the united states and the bottom eighty to ninety percent of americans have seen their real material conditions stagnate or decline and the top ten percent of americans in turkey top one percent or even more than at the top twenty one percent have seen their incomes grow quite radically so we have gone in the thirty five year period here in the united states from having one of the best distributions of the most equal distributions of any in the first world to having about the least equal distribution of income in the entire developed world and i think in many ways it's more remarkable that it took thirty years for people to get upset about it than it is that they are upset about it now. but in the american economy back system needs reform as the protesters are claiming are these attempts to reform it from the bottom up a good idea is there perhaps a better way maybe to really make these reforms happen. sure but i think the occupy

wall street movement has mostly given voice to a sense of frustration and anger about unfairness as an injustice is both real and perceived that a lot of people have about the economy i think it's an ambiguous that the u.s. economy doesn't work it doesn't work very well overall the g.d.p. growth is poor our present eight point six percent unemployment is probably under reporting and it's quite high the high level of college debt that people are coming out with young people of student loan debt and their inability to get a jobs or b. jobs that pay them enough to live and pay back their debt makes very clear that the united states has serious economic problems we haven't really seen anything like a suggestion about a different plan our different way of organizing the economy come out of the or occupy wall street movement yet now it's also a very young movement so that may evolve somewhere down the line but this looks like to me like the early stages of something with a lot more to calm most of the story yet to be written so to speak and i think what we're seeing is frost duration and anger people beginning to coalesce around that

frustration and anger but i for one haven't seen real proposals on economic policy yet we may see a bit more of that this year as it's election time and policy issues tend to be discussed much more widely in the united states every four years when we have a super cycle where the congress and the senate the house and of course the presidential election is taking center stage in the new cycle. what we have seen max know of course throughout the year believe the growing increasingly impatient it seems in dealing with the protesters we've seen people peppers reagan even tear gas how did the authorities justify these actions to the american people especially in light of the lections are people going to demand more answers. i think we will see a lot of anger and frustration certainly the big case out in california with the sort of gratuitous pepper spraying a very peaceful people sitting on the ground raise some questions as well as the pepper spraying of some women some several who mourn even protesters by the way here in new york city in the early days it is clear that. being somewhat tolerant

initially the period from about september seventeenth when the movement started through the period of late october i think authorities had hoped the movement would kind of fizzle out or go away and want it didn't want to fact grew and got more and more attention here and there was a little bit of a heavy handed over response by authorities that using force and we saw that. oakland california and other parts of california as well as york atlanta other places on the east coast i do think that that's going to be a problem and i think part of the reason it's a problem is because what it tends to do is bring out more protesters and raise public sympathy for the protesters the ham handed over the marshal response to protest has actually helped to build the occupy wall street movement sadly i would expect that to continue to be the case across the next six to twelve months although i would certainly hope it isn't. all right max proud of all the senior analysts with the green cross capital joining us live from new york speaking to us about the occupy movement and certainly demands for economic reform in the u.s.

i have a feeling we'll be talking to you many more times in the new year. hello again welcome to our new year special if you can see the show today you might illuminate submittal big dog but it was starting on the banks of the moscow river. going up and going to good time we hope you will have a very good new year too it's coming towards you if you've not had the already you know all coverage continues next we're going to focus on england it had a scorching oldest but it was nothing to do with the summer sun it was of course the wave of riots and looting which seemingly sprang from no at the time but which gripped london for the. days spread to other cities nationwide with buildings

torched the streets trashed police struggled with time to contain the worst violence in decades of things laura smith watched those events of unfold for a fuse in london nor a very good evening to you were covering those events is just mentioned from the start tell us about the violence the huge source for the cross the u.k. . it was an extraordinary thing kevin how it just blew up seemingly out of a very small vigil for a young black man who was allegedly shot by police in north london it grew from that vigil and it turned into nationwide rioting essentially it was the most extraordinary thing it really was the most the most bizarre thing that i saw was when we were in hackney one afternoon it wasn't even dark and there were a group of young people they can't be more than eleven years old just walking down the street and one of them put his foot through a short window just because he could basically and then

a police chase ensued but the police if this was the second day of right writing and the police followed and chased down at the wrong set of children so just a little illustration of how how out of control the violence was particularly in those first couple of days with an escalating all the time eventually it grew from london and into burning and manchester other cities but only in england interesting not in scotland ireland or wales. it was laura was it the first time in decades through the britain that was seeing anything like that that scale of violence how the roy it's handled by police and the government what was the response like remind us. what did the police response was i think very slow certainly in the first couple of days the police literally didn't know what to do they turned up at a scene where people had set fire to cars or to shops along the street they would charge an inverse numbers and then not knowing what to do when they got there they would retreat and as for. as for the government so much of the government was on

holiday of course because they go on holiday notice a prime minister david cameron eventually came back from his holiday as did the him secretary and the matter of london boris johnson and essentially told people what no teach children they were being and how they had to go back to school and let's do something the media blamed it on a sort of something for nothing mentality but eventually it's come out really the other people's sort is a symptom of deeper ills in society the fact that you services have been cut and that the relationship between young people young black people particularly and the police is very bad and i was talking to some people on the street here tonight actually he was saying that they didn't feel that anything had been done to address these problems a lot of rhetoric but not any actual action. where i need to hear in this year and see not only looting in the u.k. but also protests can you take us through what we saw throughout the year in terms of demands and rallies throughout the u.k. .

laura i'm not sure if you can hear me a new thing here i just want to ask if you can take us through some of the other protests not just looting that we saw throughout the summer lots of people coming out onto the street for their causes to take them through and through them if you will. all right seem to have lost laura there live from london this new year's eve but our coverage continues from the heart of moscow and we stay it with of course what happened in the u.k. throughout the years few people were more stunned about the u.k. riots than the british people themselves let them talk to investigative journalists tony gosling who's in bristol and joins us live thanks for being with us it's been several months now since the violence is it possible to say exactly what the motivation behind the riots was why did they happen at all. when i think nice actually. it's still clear i mean many of us believe that the the there was

it was a police kind of riot there was all sorts of paid akita. there was all sorts of problems at the time with the police and of course it was the shooting of mark duggan that sparked it but the london school of economics and also the guardian have done a very comprehensive report actually interviewing lots of the rioters some of whom were convicted some of whom were convicted and it's absolutely clear one hundred percent that the reason behind this riot really was a treat for the police in this country which is goes right across so many of the sink estates in the country they see i think most people see the police many of the rights to see the police as enforcing a kind of unjust system and a lack of justice there's also the statistics we need to do is look at the statistics of the deaths in custody mark duggan was just the latest in a whole series of many many deaths in custody where the figures are actually

standing over the last forty two years here in britain we've had something like a fountain deaths in custody the rate at the moment is roughly one a week without a single conviction in those forty two years of a police officer for murder and i mean if we look at what happened in tottenham in north london which sparked the riots basically there was a guy who suspected criminal rather than arresting him the police it seems actually assassinated him. there was all sorts of lies told immediately by the police and by the independent police complaints authority to the press and to the public and to the local people about what had happened it looks as if there was actually a set up there where whereby one of the police either a ricochet bullet or actually deliberately shot out another police radio to make it look as if mark duggan actually fired at the police first since transpired. that he

wasn't actually even armed when the police killed him so we've got a really serious problem in tottenham many of the local people who knew what happened although the media didn't necessarily report it because of all the dissent from ation the lies being told from scotland yard's press office and so this was one of the main sparks for it it was really a cry for justice from the people of tottenham when they were there was absolute refusal by the police to to investigate what had happened over this murder now the local people around there i would say actually afraid of the police they don't see the police as a force for good they see it as a force for evil so that's one of the reasons why this thing started in the first place and then of course there was a real sort of very very slow reaction to the rioting by the police over three or four days it took them to actually have a presence out on the streets to stop it so that's one of the main reasons which now absolutely clear why this happened and one of the problems again is that the

actual officer who murdered mark duggan hasn't even been named not again not even one would expect that he would at least be named even if he didn't immediately go on trial for murder but he hasn't even been named so there is a very understandable feeling within tottenham particularly in this case but in other parts of the country in other cases the police in britain simply have a license to kill that is not acceptable and that's why the riots were sparked off in north london is because of this real total lack of justice and as i said the community crying out for justice. tony just briefly some point directly into a widening social divide and that we're young and unemployed many of the people who are far from poor it's hard to pin down a particular disenfranchises just this one franchise group by something who do you think it is. well i mean there's a whole bunch of people in. so you are disenfranchised right now including many of

the middle classes but i think particularly young people feel betrayed by our political hierarchy by our leadership here in britain particularly in the run up to the last general election last year that is there was promises made to young people about tuition fees particularly by the liberal democrat party and their leader nick clegg promising to to get rid of tuition fees which are now running at something like three thousand pounds a year that students have to get into debt to do an education to get a decent education here in britain and actually behind the scenes all the time nick clegg and the liberal party had done a deal with the conservative party that they were actually going to increase tuition fees so no wonder young people actually feel betrayed many of them voted for the liberal democrat party in the first time they were ever allowed to vote here in britain and actually found a deal or been done behind their backs now these youngsters are not stupid they can

see when you've got a crooked corrupt and rotten political class and it's about what i would call kind of checkerboard politics where you've got all the three main political parties have something going for them however small tiny on a large majority of what i was political parties are doing it why don't you hear from barry. i'm not sure if you can hear me i don't want to thank us because we have our special new year's coverage and we're getting closer to midnight here in moscow trying to garden live earth all on the line from bristol. december in moscow usually it seems the streets filled with snow but first short while. this year it was protests against russia's parliamentary election results it

was the biggest opposition demonstrations in russian's recent history they passed off peacefully despite some ominous predictions let's discuss it now with karen terrorized so she joins us live from central moscow karyn like i said the biggest protest in russia's modern history take us through the rallies. ok we seem to not have a connection with karin there. we can i believe go to a guest that we have that can talk about the protests the russian elections and the developments that we saw on this december unfold me in russia thank you for being with us what do you have to say about these protests i mean what does it mean for the russian government are they listening to the people out on the streets. they have to listen to the people on the streets if you analyze who they are the

majority are really from the the urban middle class professionals doctors scientists engineers and so on and they're the people that make russia work and what they're concerned about is a better deal for. they want to live better they want to have a say in policy and so on they want to make russia great. and they're very concerned about the number of people in the government officials who are making a lot of money out of money and so on and they would like a money to come to them because if you look at the. blogs and so on google about money. who gets the money who steals the money and so on and why is more money not coming from the people and so on and so basically what they're saying to the government is you should be more accountable. if you want a better standard of living and we want to participate in the development of our great country. more serious koan here after the poll person.

significant reform including making it easier to become a candidate in full political parties how important all these reforms or what might they do to the distribution of power in russian politics now do you think on paper they're very very important because if you look at the political parties which are allowed to join in the duma. you find that those who were extreme nationalist russia russia for russians party it wasn't allowed to bridge that another party's middle class party is going to allow to be registered now it's one thing for president just to say that unfortunately his record of implementing his ideas has been very very weak so therefore all we can say is we hope that in fact he is speaking for the next government the next president and so on. and all political parties would be good he would be more. easy for parties to form an articulate they've used to collect votes. and following on from what you're saying there it's

still not good enough for the opposition they're still promising more protests since the new year on day. yes and you will find that demonstration will continue like a river continue flow. coming on flowing and so on because they feel that they have to build up pressure and this is the best way they can articulate they do it because they think they would represent it correctly in the dubai and therefore they've got to go into the streets and so on but one should underline the fact that these demonstrators are in fact not really political they got to new political ideology they don't want to revolution they want russia to be run as a more modern state less corruption and a bigger say for them and the important thing for the presidential elections in march is that they seem to be more open and more on this and people would be very very annoyed if enough allowed to participate in the run up to the elections because. they want

a real debate about the presidential. presence of candidates will have a major say will be on television so they want to hear those views and they want to articulate as you. know martin let's look at opposition candidates for the presidential election billionaire. how much the poor didn't he have and where does his. his support in the urban professional middle class. begin to make russia work and so on in finance and so on and he's a board for that what you'll find with the will be that there won't several presidential candidates who would split the opposition and especially split the middle. make it easier for him to come out and so you were you can expect several. dates appealing to the middle class to appear ready to speak to there's no single opposition candidate present who has

a chance of competing to put in this new kind of. because basically there's no ideology. the very very few political ideas it's basically all the same say we can run russia should be less corruption. we should drive them to those. infrastructure and so on and they're all basically saying the same thing but it's important for the putin to split the opposition. in many ways and therefore make it easier for him to succeed. mark mccall the russian specialist at the university of london thank you very much for your analysis and time this new year's eve. well looking at the watch just stuff the. president's speech. a minute maybe the old still two millions of people will be out

celebrating thousands here behind us in moscow near the creditor to celebrate the arrival of twenty twelve as i said those fireworks are probably beyond us money for the launch the champagne is on the table we're assured along with the traditional years of living here salad the course very nice to well it's really a year and change a year in turbulent unrest and protests in countries across the globe as we've been discussing over the past hour all reason then to wish for a more peaceful twenty two which will hopefully bring solutions to at least some of the world's all going issues and there are plenty of tough other porton choices to be made this coming year including the presidential election here in russia remarks that we've just been talking about so i pledge you mean putin already made it clear that he intends to return to the kremlin but long before that it's almost time to party up the clock ticks down before we can encore all of that campaign that we've been talking about here in moscow we invite you to join the annual condition i'm

listening to the president's new year's address yessiree handing over to the no thank you so much for watching us here on a c we very much appreciate it we look forward to watching this again of course in the new year as we bring you more coverage from around the world of the main events affecting your school here on r.t. we'll be back in twenty trial. citizens

of russia friends in a few moments in the kremlin tower chimes will strike and we will wish each other happy new year now a festive mood and a very special atmosphere of rain in every home across the country by tradition we use these moments to bid farewell to the outgoing year it was not an easy year but its outcome for our country has been positive this is the result of our joint efforts. and what next year will bring but also depends on us.

exactly twenty years ago with we celebrated our first new year in a country called russia. a name celebrated for the illustrious deeds of our great ancestors who over the centuries built up a huge and very strong power in the great country. it is our duty to preserve it. build a progressive state where all of us can live comfortably into his two stimulating work yes we are all different then this is precisely where our strengths as well as in our ability to hear understand and respect each other to tackle challenges together and the cheve success. that idea dear friends with the new year is approaching it's time to open the champagne and make our wishes. more

tonight i wish health and prosperity to you and your loved ones. for your lives to be full of love. and all your dreams to come true. it's leavin yourself. and i believe in each one of you if we will succeed ship happiness to all of you guys happy holiday slow happy new year twenty twelve.

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