they do plan to resurface in the new year this movement is by no means over and done with we did see this occupy movement trigger headlines from coast to coast as you already mentioned tens of thousands of americans came out into the streets of various cities throughout the country occupied public space and sparked somewhat of an economic debate that cannot be ignored it forced u.s. leaders and politicians to address the issue of wealth inequality when the occupy wall street movement gave momentum they were talking about the ninety nine percent the first one percent they focused the spotlight on the fact that the wealthiest four hundred americans have more money then of. reminding and. so. what is it looking like. twenty twelve i mean are people going to come out back onto the streets in the new year we have the u.s. elections coming up for president what are people talking about in this movement

going to continue. very much so this movement is going to continue and it's going to put pressure on us president barack obama as he runs for a second term and his all the republican candidates to address this growing issue in a routing middle class what is most interesting i found speaking to all the optimist and supporters of the occupy movement is how much they are aware of the amount of money that corporations are donating to presidential candidates to u.s. lawmakers and that is an issue that every american citizen i've spoken with that's taking issue with they do not like the way the u.s. system is structured because they believe it does not work on behalf of the u.s. citizen they believe that the corporations have too much influence over u.s. leaders and that at the end is who is controlling the decisions made for the united states so this is a huge issue it's not going to. no way and it's an occupy wall street movement if

anything they have now forced i debate that the us leaders lawmakers and you know presidential wannabes will have to address in the coming months. it seems like the occupy movement will not be able to be ignored coming into the next year marina portnoy in line from new york this new year's eve thanks for being with us. if you just joined us very good to see you there you are and if you're wondering what we're doing here now so now it may cover though and here we're now it's each night we are out for the next here on the banks of the a moscow river preparing to see in two thousand and twelve will use a lot of fireworks over our shoulder very shortly i was just actually looking over my shoulder that i'm starting to see the people packing up and starting to walk towards it ready for the big fireworks display who bring you that spectacular show total bit later and fittingly it started the kind of the snow and sleet as it were the middle of it and i like the coverage continues well if you're enjoying it now going to get some analysis next on the causes and the background of the

occupy movement i believe we can join our guests in new york. just want to make sure we have our guest tomorrow night max probable joining us from new york we seem to be having a little bit of technical problems thanks for bearing with us demonstrations claim they're being cheated by the so-called fat cats the one percent minority which consists of the richest americans who control most of the countries well do you think that justifies all of these protests that we've seen in twenty eleven. i think probably not the people in other words i don't know if there are some cases in which people are really angry at particular individuals who they feel have done too well or made too much money but we do know which is a very established fact of american life lately and of economic life particularly is that for the last thirty five years real wages have not gone up in the united states and the bottom to ninety percent of americans have seen their. real material

conditions stagnate or decline in the top ten percent of americans and take the top one percent or even more than that the top twenty one percent have seen their incomes grow quite radically so we have gone in the thirty five year period here in the united states from having one of the best distributions and the most equal distributions of any in the first world to having about the least equal distribution of income in the entire developed world and i think in many ways it's more remarkable that it took thirty years for people to get upset about it than it is that they are upset about it now. but if the american economy back system needs reform as the protesters are claiming are these attempts to reform it from the bottom up a good idea is there perhaps a better way maybe to really make these reforms happen. sure but i think the occupy wall street movement has mostly given voice to a sense of frustration and anger about unfairness as an injustice is both real and perceived that a lot of people have about the economy i think it's an ambiguous that the u.s.

economy doesn't work it doesn't work very well overall the g.d.p. growth is poor our present eight point six percent unemployment is probably under reporting and it's quite high the high level of college debt that people are coming out with young people in student loan debt and their inability to get a jobs or b. jobs that pay them enough to live and pay back their debt makes very clear that the united states has serious economic problems we haven't really seen anything like a suggestion about a different plan our different way of organizing the economy come out of the or occupy wall street movement yet now it's also a very young movement so that may evolve somewhere down the line but this looks like to me like the early stages of something with a lot more to calm most of the story yet to be written so to speak and i think what we're seeing is frost duration and anger people beginning to coalesce around that frustration and anger but i for one haven't seen real proposals on economic policy yet we may see a bit more of that this year as it's election time and policy issues tend to be discussed much more widely in the united states everything. for years when we have

a super cycle with a congress in the senate the house and of course the presidential election taking center stage in the new cycle. where we have the next no of course throughout the year police are growing increasingly impatient it seems in dealing with the protesters we've seen people pepper sprayed and even tear gas how did the authorities justify these actions to the american people especially head of elections are people going to demand more answers. i think we will see a lot of anger and frustration certainly the big case out in california with the sort of gratuitous pepper spraying a very peaceful people sitting on the ground got raised some questions as well as the pepper spraying of some women some of several who mourn even protesters by the way here in new york city in the early days it is clear that being somewhat tolerant initially the period from about september seventeenth when the movement started through the period of late october i think authorities had hoped the movement would kind of fizzle out or go away and when it didn't want to the fact grew and got more and more attention and more and more it here and there was

a little bit of a heavy handed over response by authorities that using force and we saw that coast to coast literally from oakland to california and other parts of california as well as new york atlanta other places on the east coast i do think that that's going to be a problem and i think part of the reason it's a problem is because what it tends to do is bring out more protesters and raise public sympathy for the protesters the ham handed over the marshall response to protest has actually helped to build the occupy wall street movement sadly i would expect that to continue to be the case across the next six to twelve months although i would certainly hope it isn't. right max proud of all of senior analysts with the green cross capital joining us live from new york speaking to us about the occupy movement and and certainly demands for economic reform in the u.s. i have a feeling we'll be talking to you many more times in the new year. hello

again welcome back to our new year special if you can see all of the shoulder there you might have a minutes it will be dark but so we're starting on the banks of the moscow river because the revelers in posts going up and over in a good time we hope you will have a very good new year too it's coming towards you if you've not heard the already you know our coverage continues next we're going to focus on england it had a scorching organise but it was nothing to do with the summer sun it was of course the wave of riots and looting which seemingly sprang from no at the time but which gripped london for days and spread to other cities nationwide with buildings tauch the streets trashed police struggled with time to contain the worst violence in decades there are things laura smith watched those events of unfold for a fuse in london no nor

a very good evening to you were covering those events as just mentioned from the start tell us about the violence the huge source for the cross the u.k. . you know it was an extraordinary thing kevin how it just blew up seemingly out of a very small vigil for a young black man who was allegedly shot by police in north london and grief from that vigil and it turned into nationwide's rising essentially was the most extraordinary thing it really was the rage the most bizarre thing that i still was when we were in hackney one afternoon it wasn't even dark and there were a group of young people they come to be more than eleven years old just walking down the street and one of them put his foot through a short window you just because he could basically and then a police chase ensued but the police if this was the second day of right writing and the police full agent chased down at the wrong sets of children so just a little illustration of how how out of control the violence was particularly in

those first couple of days with an escalating all the time eventually it grew from london and into burning and manchester other cities but only in england interesting not in scotland ireland or wailed. oh yeah it was laura was it the first time in decades through the brit was seeing anything like that that scale of violence how the roi it's handled by police and the government what was the response like remind this. would be the police response was i think very slow certainly in the first couple of days the police literally didn't know what to do they turned up at a scene where people had second thoughts a causal to shops along the street they would charge and involved and then not knowing what to do when they got there they would retreat and as far as for the government so much of the government was on holiday of course because they go on holiday and oka say prime minister david cameron eventually came back from his holiday as did to him secretary and the matter of london boris johnson and essentially told people what no teach children they were being and how they had to

go back to school and let's do something the media blames its own sort of something for nothing mentality but eventually it's come out really the other people's stories is a symptom of deeper ills in society the fact that you services have been cut and that the pay relationship between young people young black people particularly and the police is very bad and i was talking to some people on the street here tonight actually he was saying that they didn't feel that anything had been done to address these problems a lot of rhetoric but not any actual action. who are all i need to hear in this year and see not only looting in the u.k. but also protests in ukraine goes through what we saw throughout the year in terms of demands and rallies throughout the u.k. . where i'm not sure if you can hear me and you say here i just want to ask if you can take us through some of the other protests not of looting that we saw throughout the summer lots of people coming out onto the street for other causes to

take them through or through them if you will. all right we think to have lost lauren there live from london this new year's eve but our coverage. from the heart of moscow. with of course what happened in the u.k. throughout the years people were more stand about the u.k. right then the british people themselves let them talk to investigative journalists and was in bristol and joins us live. it's written several months now since the violence is it possible to say exactly what the motivation behind the riots was why did they happen at all. well i think that it's actually now crystal clear i mean many of us believe that the the there was there was a anti police kind of riot there was all sorts of paid akita. there was all sorts of problems at the time with the police and of course it was the shooting of mark

duggan that sparked it but the london school of economics and also to the guardian have done a very comprehensive report actually interviewing lots of the rioters some of whom were convicted some of whom were convicted and it's absolutely clear one hundred percent that the reason behind this really was a treat for the police in this country which is goes right across many of the sink estates in the country they see i think most people see the police many of the rights to see the police as enforcing a kind of unjust system and a lack of justice there's also the statistics you need to do is look at the statistics of the deaths in custody mark duggan was just the latest in a whole series of many many deaths in custody where the figures are actually standing over the last forty two years here in britain we've had something like a fountain deaths in custody the right at the moment is roughly one a week without

a single conviction in those forty two years of a police officer for murder and i mean if we look at what happened in tottenham in north london which sparked the riots basically there was a guy who suspected criminal rather than. arresting him the police it seems actually assassinated him. there was all sorts of lies told immediately by the police and by the independent police complaints authority to the press and to the public and to the local people about what had happened it looks as if there was actually a set up there where whereby one of the police either a ricochet bullet or actually deliberately shot out another police radio to make it look as if mark duggan actually fired at the police first since transpired that he wasn't actually even armed when the police killed him so we've got a really serious problem in tottenham many of the local people knew what happened although the media didn't necessarily report it because of all the dissent from

a single lies being told from scotland yard's press office and so this was one of the main sparks for it it was really a cry for justice from the people of tottenham when they there was absolute refusal by the police to to investigate what happened over this murder now the local people around there i would say actually afraid of the police they don't see the police as a force for good they see it as a force for evil so that's one of the reasons why this thing started in the first place and then of course there was a real sort of very very slow reaction to the rioting by the police over three or four days it took them to actually have a presence out on the streets to stop it so that's one of the main reasons which now absolutely clear why this happened and one of the problems again is that the actual officer who murdered mark duggan hasn't even been named not a guy not even you know one would expect that he would at least be named even if he didn't immediately go on trial for murder but he hasn't even been named so there is

a very understandable feeling within tottenham particularly in this case where you know other parts of the country in other cases the police in britain simply have a license to kill that is not acceptable and that's why. the riots were sparked off in north london is because of this real total lack of justice and as i said the community crying out for justice. but tony just briefly some point to rankle into a widening social divide and that we're young and unemployed many of the people who are far from poor it's hard to pin down a particular disenfranchised just this enfranchise group who do you think it is. well i mean there's a whole bunch of people in society who are disenfranchised right now including many of the middle classes but i think particularly young people feel betrayed by our political hierarchy by our leadership here in britain particularly in the run up to

the last general election last year that is there was promises made to young people about tuition fees particularly by the liberal democrat party and their leader nick clegg promising to to get rid of chu issue fees which are now running at something like three thousand pounds a year students have to get into debt to do an education to get a decent education in britain and actually behind the scenes all the time nick clegg and the liberal party had done a deal with the conservative party that they were actually going to increase tuition fees so no wonder young people actually feel betrayed many of them voted for the liberal democrat party in the first time they were ever allowed to vote here in britain and actually found a deal or been done behind their backs now these youngsters are not stupid they can see when you've got a crooked corrupt and rotten political class and it's about what i would call kind of checkerboard politics where you've got all the three main political parties have something going for them however small tiny on a large majority of what i was political parties are doing it why don't you hear

from barry. so you're not so you can hear me i don't want to thank you because we have our special new year's coverage and we're getting closer to midnight here in moscow tony goldwyn leibert. a lot on the line from bristol oh ok. december in moscow usually sees the streets filled with snow but first short while this year it was a protest against russia's parliamentary election results it was the biggest opposition demonstrations and russian's recent history they passed off peacefully despite some i mean this prediction let's discuss it now with our it seems karen

terror razzi she joins us live from central moscow karyn like i said the biggest protest in russia's modern history take us through the rallies. ok we seem to not have a connection with karin there. we can i believe go to a guest that we have that can talk about the protests the russian elections and the developments that we saw on this december unfold me in russia and thank you for being with us what do you have to say about these protests i mean what does it mean for the russian government are they listening to the people out on the streets. they have to listen to the people on the streets if you analyze who they are the majority are really for them the urban middle class professionals doctors scientists engineers and so on and they're the people that make russia work and what they're concerned about is a better deal for themselves they want to live better they want to have

a say in policy and so on they want to make russia great. and very concerned about the number of people in the government officials who are making a lot of money steve out of money and so on and. money to come to them because if you look at the. blogs and so on all about money. who gets the money who steals the money and so on and why is more money not coming to the people and so on so basically what they're saying to the government is we should be more accountable we want we want to better standard of living and we want to put this in place in the development of our great country. martin cohen here. after the poll from the significant reform including making it easier to become a candidate in full political parties how important these reforms or what might they do to the distribution of power in russian politics now do you think on paper

they're very very important because if you look at the political parties which are allowed to join in the duma. you find that those who were extreme nationalist russia russia for russians party it wasn't allowed to be bridged to another party's middle class participant allowed to be registered and now it's one thing for president visits to say that unfortunately his record of implementing his ideas has been very very weak so therefore all we can say is that we hope that in fact he is speaking for the next government the next president and so on. and all political parties will be urged that he will be more. easier for parties to form an articulate their views and to collect votes. and following on from what you're saying there it's still not good enough for the opposition they're still promising more protests since the new year on day. yes and you will find that demonstration will continue like a river continue flow. carry on flowing and so on because they feel that they have

to build up pressure and this is the best way they can articulate they've used because they think they would represent it correctly in the dubai and therefore they've got to go into the streets and so on but one should underline. the fact that these demonstrators are in fact not really political they got to new political ideology they don't want a revolution they want russia to be. a more modern state less corruption and a bigger say for them and the important thing for the presidential elections in march is that they seem to be more open and more on this and people will be very very annoyed it's enough allowed to participate in the run up to the elections because they want a real debate about the presidential candidates which put presidential candidates will have a major say will be on television so they want to hear those views and they want to articulate as you. know martin let's look at opposition candidates for the

presidential election billionaire. how much support the tea have and where it's important why. his support lies in the urban professional middle class those scientists. to make russia work and so on in finance and so on and he's important for that what you'll find with the putin camp will be that they want several presidential candidate who would split the opposition and specially split the midget's last and so therefore that will make it easier for the debate put in to come out and talk so you will you can expect several middle class candidates appealing to the middle class to appear and really just speak to there's no single opposition candidate present who has a chance of competing and they didn't put in this new kind of leader because basically there's no ideology in politics the very very few political ideas it's

basically all the same say we can run russia better should be less corruption and we should drive more investment in. infrastructure and so on. they're all basically saying you save the but it's important for the putin to split the opposition. in many ways and therefore make it easier for him to succeed. just one more mccauley russian specialist at the university of london thank you very much for your analysis and time this new year's eve. well this time looking at the watch just start there to midnight the fireworks are going off in a minute president but his speech to the minute maybe the old so still to millions of people be out celebrating thousands here behind us in moscow near the kremlin to celebrate the arrival of twenty twelve as i said those fireworks are probably beyond us worry for the launch of the champagnes on the table we're assured along

with the traditional years of living here salad the course very nice to well it's really a year and change a year of turbulent unrest and protests in countries across the globe as we've been discussing over the past hour all reason then to wish for a more peaceful twenty twelve million which will hopefully bring so that at least some of the world's all going issues and there are plenty of tough other porton choices to be made this coming year including the presidential election here in russia remarks that we've just been talking about that's right when you hear putin already made it clear that he intends to return to the kremlin but long before that it's almost time to party and the clock ticks down before we can encore all of the campaign that we've been talking about here in moscow we invite you to join the annual condition i'm listening to the president's new year's address yessiree handing over to the thank you so much for watching us here on a c we very much appreciate it we look forward to watching us again of course in the new year as we

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of russia either with friends she has in a few moments in the kremlin tower chimes will strike and we will wish each other happy new year just because now a festive mood and a very special atmosphere of rain in every home across the country by tradition we use these moments to bid farewell to the outgoing year it was not an easy year but its outcome for our country has been a positive this is the result of our joint efforts. and what next year will bring that also depends on us or all of that exactly twenty years ago with we celebrated our first new year in a country called russia in union but

a name celebrated for the illustrious deeds of our great ancestors smugly in the british ring who over the century has built up a huge and very strong power says that's a great country. it is our duty to preserve it for us time to build a progressive state where all of us can live comfortably in its two stimulating work yes if so we are all different than this is precisely where our strength winds as well as in our ability to hear understand and respect each other to tackle challenges together it may be underachievers success that you know dear friends in the new year is approaching it's time to open the champagne and make our wishes it with them or tonight i wish health and prosperity to you and your loved ones zillow still for your lives to be full of love store ways and all your dreams to come true

. if you leave in yourself and i believe in each one of you if we will succeed share happiness to all of you surprised happy holiday. debbie new year twenty twelve.