metals in it because it's discharging out of a chat piles the sides of the mind that has the minerals in it are submerged beneath the water and it's isolated from oxygen oxygen is the key. back when they first go on up there was a lot of oxygen available in the mines and that was causing oxidation of the matter which in turn creates basically sulfur so here you have torque creek which starts up in kansas runs through the mining belt becomes contaminated down that which is just south of picher it then rooms on the east side of commerce runs through the center of miami only into neo show river. on into green light let's just say it's been doing that since eighty three nothing but orange yucky smelly container.

this watershed has been clocking five million gallons a day since there have been clocks. and if water rolls into the mines or slides off a chap pilot flows out from the underground it's real bad news. isaac newton says the reaction to the mining is a lifetime of polluted water. this mine system swallows any groundwater hole and then coughs up going to. look at these problems and say this has been here for a long time. it's not just twenty five years and superfund it's it's since money. and we all benefited from that money either directly or indirectly. it was a good thing for the united states but this is the legacy. kind of an obligation to fix. if you drive through picher right now and drive down the road nothing's changed nothing is really changed.

they put us all the m.p.l. list it's a disgrace. and it's sad. but no one has done anything about the water. but i'm ashamed right now of the arm of the protection agency the bureau of indian affairs the department the interior because they've spent all this time talking to us telling you this you know what they think we want to hear but if you drive through picher and drive down down to the road it looks the same as it did when they turned off the pumps of the walk. no one cares about the people that live there this is not a safe place to live it's a good place there's good people here and it's not fit there been whispers about buying this place out since it was named the superfund in eighty three i mean horrible water all this mine waste direct danger to children they couldn't get the

help they needed. should have been easier to put a buyout together. whether it's a dioxin scare they want to build a lake or highway somewhere buyouts happen all the time. and human health dangers here seem to qualify plus stark regretted and said an ace in the hole oklahoma senior senator jim in off a chair of the environmental and public works committee in the senate this committee over seas and directs the e.p.a. and inhofe oversaw the committee as far as environmental buyout money goes in off was the faucet and you have a place like this in your home state you're chairing the kind of committee that can actually help people and you refuse well we could also know what he was cooking the problem was that in office a soldier of industry fact is in-house brother even used to work for the insurance agency owned by the mining companies in office and deal with polluters so he can't just order a buyout because that would prove this land's not fit for people and it's not fit

and someone's got to pay for what got done and that could get expensive so they just pay it off to make this buyout talk disappear and the citizen sets. but to prove that he was working for auto walk county folks he put together an eighteen million dollars cleanup plan to stand in for a buyout made everyone wait three years while they pulled it together he was going to move all the chat they were in the math on the plan the same day it was released if you are in fifty trucks a day all day it would take forty years just to move the check forty years moving the chair will cost two hundred twenty five million not eighteen but complete by i was estimated at fifty million and everyone knows inhofe not much of a science man could it be that manmade global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the american people i believe it is but it turned out he was no math guy either but then came news that not even enough could spin

if you got away from mining. you didn't hear a new noise or anything that was always a problem it just settled. in on you surprised it. pitcher isn't just all feeling and they looked at water and then they looked at land and all the trouble is they forgot to look at subsidence risk which is of course the undermining that goes along with hard rock mining you know it turns out that the area significant undermined which really shouldn't be a surprise to anybody since they took out i don't know two hundred fifty million tons of or maybe more you know this underground mining was done sometimes clear up to where they had to what until they saw a tree roots when you have a several hundred foot mine room that's going almost to the surface guess what it's going to collapse on these days and that land that you're seeing out there it's all

undermined in pitcher and cardinal more people are living they could wake up one day in their house today collapsed in the morning. they didn't care what they didn't do that the city pitcher is just sitting on pillars and. the pillars and. oh medium sized cave then now this is made. this is a sample are and why it's the biggest cave in and the area that you feel right here . is probably i will say another hundred fifty foot deeper than what the water is right now but i think there is a public policy issue here. if you can account for all the risk and environmental side should be in charge well i've been around these my whole life and i'm still

scared of them i mean there's just. there's just no forgiveness if anything happens around the. if you start going down that's it your history. it sounds crazy but those holes are actually a blessing. the state can afford to move everyone out and off it already pounded his gavel that the current problems weren't bad enough. so things had to get worse to get anything done several areas collapse that summer on and off finally agreed to a study to prove the extent of the undermining. not that it needed to be proven another study felt exhausting you know it felt tired to have to prove that the land was actually undermined and more holes were coming but it was a material chance to get a buyout so nobody feeds this two million dollars study you can't ignore the dead or what the data shows in regards to the severity of the

underground mining that was done appear to not disputed in any way as we were able to get political support to evaluate their risk then it became obvious that people shouldn't live there it's best for in the long run because they have to worry about any more kids being raised in this environment you know we got to put them into that what we are doing is we are going in finding comparables outside the project area. and keeping keep in mind superfund site is a bigger area in the project area project area is that area that i told you about the forty square mile area that was in that subsidence team study they're finding properties outside that area and then giving them comparable value for their property the trust has tried to make some provisions to make sure that everybody gets a minimal decent level of housing so in other words if you live in

a in some standard housing we don't want to give you just enough money to go live in substandard housing in miami are somewhere else people get an appraisal and i don't care if you live in a five hundred thousand dollars house you can appraisal and you know i really thought my house was worth more than you know and so what i keep telling people is be realistic in reality if you took that house in the condition that it's in take it and stick it in my oklahoma can sign on the front yard how much do you really think you're going to get for that house. kind of interesting we've been so busy trying to do the appraisal issues and those kind of things to get people out what are very firm values i mean that's hard and. like with any appraisal not everybody is happy with their phrase but. it's that it's a chance for these people that they really would never have otherwise i'd like to stay braced for my life fast here because had i feel like i got maybe

a year or two years you know maybe not even had septic god but years have got made but not right i hate to move you know hard for him to do stuff on the walls and pictures my stuff and just get to have to get rid of her you know different things as somebody who would be nice to have a nice house you know but i'm not able to take care of her and if they are they now you know so. yeah they much but it's home and it's got to be hard leaving home practically being made to leave those places are just on their health and their children so it's one of the property values but it's still home. and once the bio reaches critical mass there won't be any more fire department anymore polies anymore like tricity or water stores. it'll just be paved country lined with rusted street signs. and when you go through all

that and are told the one place you can't live is home you deserve a by a process that is dignified and clean. so the trust was appointed to represent the citizens during the buyout process and they carry out orders from the federal government and all appraisal issues and cut checks for the homes and i'm just making a little short statement i was offered fifteen dollars a square foot for my business and there's no way that you can build and many stories and i know it's not gigantic it's just forty buildings and that it is nice i'm not for a moment to look at it we're staying in from a health and for the base package the gunshop the house the land three lots eighty thousand dollars and there's no way you go to mom and replace this for eighty thousand dollars it's impossible it's a hundred thousand a fair yes and i don't think i can actually go to my man replace him for

a hundred. and i went to all of the try to find out why and they said well that's just what we're part of that appraiser have been in business for twenty five years they should know what they're doing all of them were they dealt with the appraisal company cinnabar services out of tolls is doing shoddy work and the trust is paying them one point eight million dollars to do shoddy work they're rude to the people they have consistency and the trust will not hold them accountable. to listen now wait a second i i listened to what you guys listen. we have people want to say this is not like the first by well we did the same things we put something out for bid we hired a contractor we have gone in and and gotten their appraisals and we've had that review i mean and in all honesty the values are higher in this buyout than they were in the first one and what do you see in the news record here's today's news

record trust the fans buy out approach the trust is circling the wagons. you know the truth is supposed to take care of these people and they're not doing or they're going to be people who feel like they were do more yes what i can do it sure is that there's been no conspiracy on the part of anyone to get higher values for certain people let me finish. what there is is a lot of innuendo and accusation and yet there is no proof ok we're coming up on jenelle's brother this again hard. this lap siding hundred fifteen thousand. that house the old old old house that's been moved three times. at least eighty years. ok this house on the left longs to

miss it and sammy bates and i have been offered seventy thousand cinnabar said there is something wrong with the beats appraisal so i use a trash why did you not tell me we did we actually your problem would be really big but you didn't raise that as it mean that we get you just because we get worse and i raced over there standing around with the beater praise also listening to the same and. i don't want to mean we got three new cops property. it is significant change that. marquee can link you mean tell me you can find anything room. think you. need praise or probably have a tough with this town there are some poor people here there are some bad looking

homes and i'm sure those create some challenges. but you know missing sammy's house is the same size as the hearts. missing sami's as much newer and even if you're blind and a little crazy and think these homes are in similar condition and they can bedroom isn't a bedroom if it's not close to a bathroom there's still a forty five thousand dollar difference in a town where the average home is fifty eight grand. that's almost the cost of a whole other house this is the kind of appraisal work the trust as behind and they said mrs home on her couch and say maybe we gave the cards too much i mean we made a mistake. and in the same breath the thing missing and sammy got a good run by now you know there. is no. where does this leave those who've already worked a lifetime. course they're paid back with chapter eleven and ninety two years old. and i say i did that it. jackie bird see and she called me the other day she's so

worried about hoover she's that long and she got no neighbors run across the street so she's god and she don't know about her house since they offered two hundred two thousand on it i think she said tell me so i don't know what she's going to do. they offered eighty four years young jackie busy twenty two thousand dollars for her home it doesn't matter what her home is like we're going to move on that she says gentleman the purpose of this letter is to explain why i do not have a bill of sale when i was twenty one i bought my home in picher oklahoma in the fall of one thousand nine hundred three from doing fields for three hundred seventy five dollars i've lived here for almost sixty three years i'm now almost eighty four years old and have lived in the neighborhood seventy seven years longer as far as i know than anyone now living or dead it is with much regret that i will have to

leave my home at this late time in my life but i cannot stay without police protection sewer service utilities and safe neighbors please let me be among the last to go. how do you expect an eighty year old woman who's lived in that house for sixty years who's on a fixed income. how do you expect her to move out of the superfund site on twenty thousand dollars now you know it's easy for outsiders to come and look at nasa oh my gosh a house in worth five thousand dollars that's right but that's at ladies' home that's all she has and now you're going to take it away from her and now you've got to make her get and it to get out of here and the funny thing is we can come in

here and spend seventy thousand dollars to dig up her yard but we can't give her enough money to move out of town. he. this is what environmental problems look like. they look like people problems environmental problems are people problems as long as gravity still holds us here. they aren't separate if you're all over. and these folks have been stolen from their land raped their names drug through the mud but they are tough as hale break everything else you can grab but these people ain't breaking on your science on your say so run your legislation of the month hell yes they get red headed mad when things seem counterfeit what else do you have in there any much. just your word your soul and your back. one hundred years later they're still here still fighting for their health and their cool spotted there.

whether it's fair weather or they are going this will not be home anymore. and a hundred years after the first pickaxe struck oklahoma go they're handing this place back to the quapaw. appreciate the your here's the war superfund site in the country. hasn't even started. you know just because the buyouts go along doesn't mean it's over with these it's just all they can buy these people out which is that what they're going to do but the tribes going to be here forever because the government's not going to give them anymore land. you can see that with all this mind why it's covering the landscape it's really not usable in the sixty's eagle pitcher was pressing for them to get out of their leases you know and to move in

they also offered to cook the. back in the mines and the department of interior denied stating that the lands were no longer any good for anything they were ruined for agriculture is you know their purpose but the only economic derivative left to their lands was the gravel on the surface and they could sell their gravel when they start realizing that chad had heavy metals that it was was an environmentally hazardous part of interior realize that that's a liability since they manage the asset for the tribe if they allow that to be sold and they would incur liability because if this chat were sold and put somewhere else that place might become a superfund site they're lucky there's so little left today there's no telling what the epidemic would look like if there were five times as much lead poaching their

young polluting creeks making the ground channel. but eighty years later there sits seventy five million tons. eighty years of kids best through struggling in school. here gun this chad didn't just heard the kids who tested i. that was here in mountains before anyone drowning test. so not only is the chad left on the indian lease where the tribal member can't use the land then they found out they couldn't sell it either so their land became useless result this chad's been just sitting here for eighty ninety one hundred years you know we're being restricted for more sales but the money indians are not this check causes lead poisoning that's not an opinion it ruins this very land that was given to the quapaw to replace what they gave up in the b i a made sure this chad stayed right here the

b.a.a. said these are the people who are going to bleed because of this waste what is now so clear about this function is that damaging the land is not a separate act from damaging a culture. the whole reason that the government gave the tribe just one a and was to replace the land where they came from you know that the quapaw tribe occupied most of what is now arkansas. you know and i feel bad for the people that are living over in picher. i feel bad that they're going to have to move i feel bad that they're going to have to be relocated but you know what quote those didn't want to leave work and so. so. it's giving bad out here. but not saying hardly any birds

squirrels you know. ducks geese you know i don't know what's going on here this this is like rachel carson's nightmare today you know we're having a silent fall here and you know where are the birds where's the wall why. just don't see this is really unusual i've never been on this river and seen it you can even hear a bird chirping you know. i think the worst story would have to be.

the worst story would have to be the kids we let slip through the cracks. the kids that. didn't get any help early on. because if you look back if you look back in school history if you talk to families. those probes who were here. and we didn't know what. hundreds of towns and cities have diminished even died when industry pulls up

stakes but these towns in oklahoma began to die because industry arrived way back when it would have been impossible to know the dimension of destruction they'd be left with or who would be hurt by it back then jobs trumped everything maybe they still do back then they had no concept of the future. but now we are the heirs of our grandparents miss. and there we are about to shoot the porch light out on this town. i mean more times can we strike lead or uranium oil before there's no more country.

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