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the latest candidate to get this treatment is ron paul whose newsletter some past years include racist and homophobic language but are they equally as hard on all candidates or have they intend to linger on out of their way to do more damage the poll as one of the iowa front runners believes the mainstream media has a bias against ron paul since he is the only front runner who does not represent the status quo now melanie she agreed this is stuff that went on twenty plus years ago the mainstream media just keeps digging it out to ruin his good name on the other hand told us that he believes a question about where he says newsletters are justified saying that it's orleans someone who lets things be published in its name and then claims that they were not aware of it and the whole coonan told as the mainstream media bias will backfire the more they ignore and discredit ron paul the more powerful he becomes now at this point it seems that ron paul has finally gotten the front runner treatment google trends so as to his profit has been above all the other candidates for the last thirty days and is still surging ahead but i guess we'll have to wait to see
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what the mainstream media really thinks after the results of tonight's iowa caucuses come in. now as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next question for you early in the show we spoke about the millions of dollars that are already flooding into iowa despite a dwindling voter turnout so do you think the money spent in iowa is worth its political importance let us know on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows the response just might make it on air. tonight we have a glimmer of hope the state of montana is standing up to the citizens united ruling last friday the montana supreme court ruled to uphold the state law passed in one nine hundred twelve which bans all corporate political expenditures in state elections and while citizens united dealt with federal elections overwhelming majority of election. which do take place the united states or at the state and
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local levels which is what the nine hundred twelve corrupt practices law in montana specifically addressed but after the supreme court's ruling of citizens united conservatives in montana got a little cocky groups within the state took aim at that law claiming that it violated their first amendment rights but luckily for montana their supreme court disagreed they argued the supreme court ruled in favor of citizens united only because the d.o.j. failed to make the case the government had a compelling interest in the meeting speech but they being the montana supreme court ruled the while the d.o.j. could not make their case the state of montana could stay argued they had a compelling interest in limiting direct corporate political expenditures for four reasons one a small population to low costs of elections in the state three large out of state interest in the state like mining companies and lastly judicial independence and the court also ruled that corporations which bought the suit such as the american tradition partnership quote act as conduits for anonymous spending by others and represent a threat to the political marketplace personally i agree montana has less than
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a million people and the majority of its economy is controlled by companies based out of the state its democracy is more vulnerable to outside corporate money influence the most which is exactly why the citizens of montana fought for a ban on corporate spending in politics in the first place in the early one nine hundred thirty keep sure to make you up to keep you updated on these rulings progress as it could be and i thought test for the supreme court so it's a united decision for the time being it does show that some states out there are willing to fight for their democracy and i think that's a glimmer of hope. now over the last few months we've documented for you the growing opposition to sopa and protect ip you know those nice little pieces of legislation in the house in the senate that would allow the government to seek orders telling i as p.s. ad networks paint processors to blacklist websites that are considered broke and dedicated to infringing activities not only are all the tech giants opposed but so are hundreds of legal scholars think even tanks. the conservative heritage
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foundation we've also seen the reddit community playing influential role in their anger got the go daddy to refer as their support and now they're even promising to target specific politicians the plan to vote yes but believe it or not there are still people that are joining the other ranks the boston globe for example just last week editorialized in favor stressing of the billions in losses due to copyright infringement so let's settle a few things once and for all as in how much actually guest gets lost in terms of jobs and revenue and why these bills won't really stop piracy anyway her disgust with me is joined sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight it was a pleasure what do you think why would the boston herald or boston globe excuse me now so many people are in opposition of so protect ip editorialist for it you know i think one of the problems is that you this is an area where so much of the information and research on the impact of piracy almost all of it really is
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basically industry funded and if you scratch the surface a little bit it's almost all i mean almost laughably incredible i mean in a literal not incredible in the sense of amazing research but incredible in the literal sense of not believable. and so people hear well billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars even you know hundreds of thousands of jobs could be created in this sounds compelling to a lot of people i just don't take the time and look at the research often you can't a lot of the most basic underlying research that's done is funded by the movie studios in the recording industry and then the methodology is sort of mysterious so you can actually go in there and check their work and say well did you make assumptions that make sense that for example software companies used to for a long time make these estimates based on the assumption that every single instance of a pirate piece of software was would have been a sale so the idea is basically if a guy in zimbabwe pirate's a four hundred dollar copy of photoshop that would have been four hundred dollars for the software. district is he would have bought it with his entire lifetime
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income but at the same time right we see a lot of counter research you could say because so many people that you know that are in support of so far in support of protect ip well often point to certain research out there that will tell you that will hey it's actually the people that are going to download something from the internet that are watched you know a leaked clip of something that end up being the biggest customers that spending and spending the most money in the entertainment realm so can we trust that you know there is there is mixed research in the film is that a lot of these tend to be smaller scales studies so you do find you know university based research that's based on surveys and samples that does find things like this that you know for example most of these downloads are not actually displacing sales or that you know there is an effect of exposure and particularly down the line is what you find is there's a lot of piracy of folks at the very top so eminem and lady gaga that piracy sometimes is displacing sales as you get further down to the artists that aren't already world famous the effect tends to flip and you find that piracy there is actually exposing people for the first time but you know there's less of this
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reacher is usually smaller scale and most importantly there are very highly paid lobbyists going around touting that research to journalists to. you know or to members of congress in the name of you know the industry so what you see is basically reporters say well he's got an estimate and you know the studios say well we do even though it's usually a good example of the kind of ridiculous stuff that happens. they'll double and triple count this stuff so they say ok you paid ten dollars for a d.v.d. and then the production costs of that d.v.d.'s of ten dollars eight dollars to the factory that printed it and then two dollars to the trucking company that shift it so that's ten dollars plus eight dollars plus two dollars now it's twenty dollars it's a multiplier it's magic you know but of course you can do that with anything and you can do the other way right and say ok you know someone didn't buy an album so they saved ten dollars so instead they bought it some i believe in a bar. and then the bartender you know what i'm going to haircut and then the wire
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cutter i mean you can you can play these ridiculous games sort of difficult but you know and you know i mean they're just reporters because what happens is you have the new york times and you have the boston globe reporting on things like this and these are publications that i think they often people read and they're not going to go up out searching for the counter research somewhere in the depths of the internet you know just let's get down to what i think is a very important question is that the heart behind this legislation right is to stop online piracy and protect copyrighted material that something bad about that not does this even address the problem at all. why does it work so absolutely yes i mean piracy is not the multibillion dollar hundred thousand jobs problem some of the studios claim it's still a problem and something that it makes sense to try and work against in some way this isn't going to work just because it's so obvious that there are so many ways to get around it i mean you can change the hosts file on your computer you can download a browser plug and like which is just written as a demonstration after this legislation was proposed mafia fires that's already
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floating around you can use an overseas proxy you can use an overseas search engine you can get online and look up the ip address of a site that's been blocked there are so many ways to so easily get around this i mean if you use enemy software like tor which is financed and funded by the united states military as a tool for people overseas to be able to escape censorship in oppressive regimes if you use that as a privacy tool you already basically automatically in a lot of cases get around these blogs the idea that you know the same people who will go out and figure out how to install bit torrent so they can pirate stuff aren't going to also figure out how to install an application that will circumvent a block seems to me you know very optimistic given everything we've seen us for historical is when you take down napster you take down one pirate site and ten more pop up somewhere else the idea that you can stop piracy through these kinds of measures is just contradicted by a decade at least of experience also. you know judging by all the research that
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you've done on this if you had a better way to combat piracy what would you say it was also there are some proposals that suggest going after the money i think it's a good approach for counterfeiting and one of the things they're also concerned about serving about overseas they're selling bogus pharmaceuticals or something like that if you go after the money you try and cut off the payments to them that makes sense in those cases for something like bit torrent doing you know some of those advertising driven but often it's just people sharing stuff honestly the best way i think to combat that is to just find a way for people to get what i mean i think you know a really effective anti piracy measure is netflix you know when people say ok i can i can get lots of movies streamed to my home without having to go out and rent a d.v.d. for ten bucks a month yeah sure i'd you know happy to paint ten months a month rather than you know going around trying to pirate stuff i think that's an effective anti piracy measures to get spotify in terms of figuring think you're ringing about only getting stuff to consumers that people are alternately basically i think for the most part when they can afford it would prefer to pay for. in
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a convenient way at a reasonable price and you know i think that that's what you're going to see as the way to combat if i guess maybe then some of the old people up in congress to keep writing legislation about new technologies they don't understand need to get netflix need to get spotify maybe that's their money. are enjoying thanks so much for joining us tonight and john. i still have the show tonight rick santorum flip flops on his stance regarding contraception he tells the whole time and then happy hour you can now enroll for occupy one hundred one at some colleges and cops go after a five year old let me tell you what a comeback. if
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to the. family. started showing. cheap labor. legally. every morning we have to go to work and you know we have to pay our bills and we have to and that's just the american dream and if you want the american dream you have to. figure this year's one of. my property about this noise.
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the wire is protecting the country i'm the kind of guy who doesn't mind good news pay and sturdy so i come out here you know we're all immigrants as well that we all came from somewhere else. this is our time to reclaim the american dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth that out of many we all want that war we breathe we hope. to me the american dream is to live in peace and prosperity and freedom and a government under socialism is not a government of free. you. have very motivated. cross that are activists who are willing to fight for what they think is right for themselves but the fact is or to work for it.
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i. think. we are. in a proper grounding and i think it's spread why it's cutting off our. it's making the marker see. all but part. are you guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight once again it goes to rick santorum the former pennsylvania senator is extremely socially conservative and he has no qualms about sharing his religious beliefs while he's campaigning as of his favorite topics are contraception for women and of course abortion now during a recent interview with a.b.c.'s jake tapper santorum was questioned about his views regarding contraception and there he explained that states should have the
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right to ban their use and he reiterated that it should be a state decision. so they have a right to the same of never works in the state has a right to say that it's not it's not a constitutional right of the state has before as the right to protest whatever whatever statutes they have here and that's the right thing i've said about the activism of the supreme court they created rights. and we're going to be left up to the people to decide and. now it sounds like rick is pretty passive on this issue he says that it's a states' rights issue it should be handled that way but that's really funny to hear him say that now because in the past rick santorum expressed very strong desires to stop federally funded contraception altogether not just leave it up to the states check out what he shared during an interview with caffeinated thoughts dot com after he pledged to remove any chance of federal dollars would go towards abortion or contraceptives. one of the things i will talk. to the first.
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of. many christians treat well that's ok. it's not ok to lie to. you. know what. should. i quick question what does rick actually mean when he calls it a license to do things in a sexual realm that aren't how things are supposed to be i mean they're really going to harp on the religious ideology that sexual activities are solely for the purpose of procreating aside from being out of touch with reality i'm not sure that he understands what would happen if contraceptives didn't exist for starters the gun locker institute a nonprofit organization says that practically all females that are sexually active use some form of contraception between the ages of fifteen and forty four sixty two percent of american women between the ages of fifteen and forty four are still
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using it some form of birth control those are the women who would be affected if santorum got his wish which also point out that these contraceptives have been a huge help in preventing unplanned pregnancies and thus preventing many abortions institue also pointed out that publicly funded i.e. federal money spent on birth control helped in avoiding over eight hundred thousand abortions run planned pregnancies now those figures are just more proof that there is a need for contraceptives in the country whether it's a state issue or a federal one but those two clips that i show you also prove that rick santorum is completely full of crap when he says that it should be a state issue his true job is to destroy any type of activity in the sexual realm what as he calls it other than procreating and so for holding that stance even though you try to mask it during a recent interview rick santorum is tonight's to a time where.
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ok guys it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight as lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r t and comedian tim young thanks for being here guys. happy new year airshow in twenty twelve i'm pretty excited so first let's start with a story that i guess you could say has been carrying on from from two thousand and eleven occupy wall street the occupy movement obviously took over the country and now there's even a school that is going to basically be offering occupy one zero one classes we kind of wondered for a minute what exactly you might learn along going there and well this is some of what we saw. are a word we're just getting we're just getting with this is i'm going to university basically there is they're sending you there and saying that i guess if you camp
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out you know take part you get full credit where they're going to camp out there non-zero you park anymore there are other encampments wanted as were acting attend that's class one then about three classes and you learn how to make a big pot of lentil soup and then drumming comes about class about was we've got a long that's advanced occupy i don't there's still i mean washington d.c. i guess it is yeah i do see i guess there's where they are but d.c. is where they can all come but in this sense then you know you've had still be a part of the occupy movement and still get your credits and all the same time. it's a two for one it's a good deal because i think this is going to keep it in a good school longer because they can't get jobs right so there just aren't a handy activism they need in order to maybe n.x. and change in order to get you know sort of being a part of the capital society that you're protesting against at the same time i did makes no sense. that a lot i don't think that's unfair because i don't think that it's fair to characterize occupy anything as just against. you know it's not it's not it's not
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but you know but ultimately you are just spending a lot of time in schools a lot of oddly racking up a lot of college debt and then you learn the skills in order to protest against that debt there are a lot of one percenters at columbia i wouldn't be going there if i was an occupy protester no but it would be different on the one percent closer to right if you could get into one of our centers learn more about the occupy movement i think this is a win win all right let's move. to let's move on to a lawsuit that basically it's based on the supreme court case holder v humanitarian law project and basically what they're trying to say here is that by allowing terrorist organizations to use twitter then twitter is providing material support to these terrorist organizations do you buy that i mean i think that's the us well i i think maybe i think i think freedom of speech i mean it's part of the patriot act provision of course it's something that you talk about on your show all the time why would you want to monitor the terrorism but you on twitter the starbucks
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on capitol hill saw this we better get over there we know where they are actually i learned something else about this too i feel good about myself because i have more followers than a lot of the terrorist organizations international terrorist organizations have less followers than me that in the night it was more you hear more dangerous more people they couldn't give a couple to there you go how to grow i mean but you've been talking about the n.b.a. so what's next you know indefinitely detaining american tweeters who the government doesn't like the way their twitter twittering and military presence that's actually going to a dark movie i think eventually woody harrelson the american tweeter who's going to lead you on twitter since you have such a presence i don't know drew carey maybe you never do carry on like. let's move on to another and this is this mom was not happy when her basically told the story of what happened to her five year old. a charlton mom says her local library crossed a line sending police to collect her daughter's overdue library books her mom says
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the little five year old girl was so frightened she burst into tears. really i mean we talk about this stuff all the time necessary like there was a six year old they got arrested for playing doctor last year and now you did return a library book and the cops are coming for a five year old and i think they're playing doctor is a little bit more pernicious than the library book thing but i think that's good either. i think that you play doctor as a librarian because i do that's what she's got the books out for this is this is the first stage you got to cut her off of the clink now well you're on to something with that because point is allowed in some public libraries like new york so now they could all but again i am i still have your original rocky soundtrack checked out from an around the county public library in maryland from one thousand nine hundred four well you know i'd be careful because there might be nothing here and they're coming for me they're coming for you i think that there could be two really scary things there one is ok the library said these were the worst offenders with four thousand dollars in debt so this could show the lengths that cities are going to collect on debts with how dire straits people are in or it could show kind of
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the pernicious thing of debt and the police state which is that the police are going to be you know i got that wrong but if you like i said i would like to read about it and i got to write about the first and look at how we suddenly have debtors' prisons again in america right and you're going to. i know. what they should lock up i mean i go i make the mom pay twenty thousand a bill to get her out you got your money there i know i thought of my other point which is they're going to be paying for the five year old to stay in prison and i defeater clothes yeah absolutely probably more than my other point was with cities being so broken they really afford to be sending police to collect library books good point already and i thought ok you. know this story is just absolutely. so this is the side of mountain dew i think in the clip there explaining pepsi's defense of guys trying to sue pepsi because they found a dead rat reclaims there is a dead rat or malice inside of the can and this is why they said no dice could happen. pepsi has launched what has to be the weirdest most all of putting defense
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in the history of our legal system they've hired an expert who is speaking on behalf of pepsi co to argue that mr ball couldn't found a dead mouse in his mountain dew because the soda would have reduced the carcass to a jelly like substance one before he ever popped the top. that is just so. just. so house and so i don't think i was going well he said an experiment showed it's actually acid and it melts down my my seventh grade science fair project which i won third place in the state with seeing what the effects of soda on t.v. it melts teeth in two weeks it just goes completely away we didn't know you're bringing our experiences into gelatin i mean i believe everything is neon yellow that can never be good. no you can't. but ok really quickly. we probably have time to talk about this but for some reason santorum was
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having a surge and so now there is a new product in his name. i want to say i'll let you know it always makes me blush frothy mix. that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. ok that was the definition of santorum which now is up there when you google it and so because of santorum served there is now a santorum salad so just enjoy all of those awkward combinations he and the rest i don't know i just know it's only served in the whites only section. ok guys thanks for joining me tonight that's a good night so thanks for tuning in and make sure to come back tomorrow we're going to ask if the u.s. actually supports democracy in the arab world or if we're actively working against it glenn greenwald's coming on the show to discuss in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of a lot of show on facebook and follow us on twitter if there's anything you ever miss it's all the you tube dot com slash the one shell and coming up next is the.
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called for this thing is how are you going to implemented. the u.s. rebuffs iran's demand not to bring its aircraft carrier back to the persian gulf. disaster. republicans are making their choice in the first caucus to pick a challenger to president obama whose popularity appears to be even among hardcore supporters. gang culture and london's youth say they know where to turn the street. this is our town carrie johnson a very warm welcome to you so the u.s.
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says it was ships will continue their missions in the persian gulf in response to iran's. warning to keep aircraft carriers well away from its waters tensions rose as a u.s.s. john stennis passed through an area where iran was holding ten days of naval wargames when the drill began around threaten to block it or else supply routes to new u.s. sanctions hit its export to back down drill for a number of missiles which are said to be long range the russian military says iran could use intercontinental ballistic missiles iran is under increasing pressure from western countries which believe it might be developing a nuclear weapon asia times correspondent. new sanctions adopted by the us over the top. can imagine if it was the other way around if this sanctions were against american exports or if this sanctions or against china for its is a sunni china you know me.

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