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our guys have time for show and tell us night's program the last time we spoke about the m.s.m. is a full court press against g.o.p. nominee ron paul and we asked if you think this is the typical vetting process carried out against the latest front runner or fire appeals and m.s.m. bias against ron paul let's go to producer treasonous sent you to find out what you have to say. in the past couple of weeks some republican presidential candidates have been using flame throwers to try and burn the character of their opponents that's something that we're used to seeing now the media always follow suit and play the tit for tat gave the latest candidate to get this treatment is ron paul who's newsletter some past years include racist and homophobic language but are they equally as hard on all candidates or have they intend doing gone out of their
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way to do more damage of paul as one of the iowa front runners osama leaves the mainstream media has a bias against ron paul since he is the only front runner who does not represent the status quo now melanie to great this is stuff that went on twenty plus years ago the mainstream media just keeps digging it up to ruin his good name on the other hand told us that he believes a question about where he says newsletters are justified saying that it's speaks poorly of someone who lets things be published in his name and then claims that they were not aware of it and the whole qumran told as the mainstream media bias will backfire the more they ignore and discredit ron paul the more powerful he becomes this boy it seems that ron paul has finally gotten the front runner treatment google trends so as to his profit has been above all the other candidates for the last thirty days and is still serving ahead but i guess we'll have to wait to see what the mainstream media really thinks after the results of tonight's iowa caucuses come in. now as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next
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question for you early in the show we spoke about the millions of dollars that are already flooding into i what. despite a dwindling voter turnout so do you think the money spent in iowa is worth its political importance let us know on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows the response just might make it on their. list you. and i we have a glimmer of hope the state of montana is standing up to the citizens united ruling threat last friday the montana supreme court ruled to uphold the state law passed in one thousand twelve which bans all corporate political expenditures in state elections and while citizens united dealt with federal elections overwhelming majority of elections which do take place in united states are the state and local levels which is what the nine hundred twelve corrupt practices law in montana specifically addressed but after the supreme court's ruling of citizens united
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conservatives in montana got a little cocky groups within the state took aim at that law claiming that it violated their first amendment rights but luckily for montana their supreme court disagreed they argued the supreme court ruled in favor of citizens united only because the d.o.j. failed to make the case the government had a compelling interest in the meeting speech but they being the montana supreme court ruled the while the d.o.j. could not make their case the state of montana could stay argued they had a compelling interest in limiting direct corporate political expenditures for four reasons one a small population two low costs of elections in the state three large out of state interest in the state like mining companies and lastly judicial independence and the court also ruled that corporations which bought the suit such as the american tradition partnership quote act as conduits for anonymous spending by others and represent a threat to the political marketplace personally i agree montana has less than a million people and the majority of its economy is controlled by companies based out of the state it's
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a modesty it is more vulnerable to outside corporate money influence the most which is exactly why the citizens of montana fought for a ban on corporate spending and politics in the first play. in the early one nine hundred thirty keep sure to make you up to keep you updated on these rulings progress as it could be and i thought test for the supreme court's citizens united decision for the time being it does show that some states out there are willing to fight for their democracy and i think that's a glimmer of hope. now over the last few months we've documented for you the growing opposition to sopa and protect ip you know those nice little pieces of legislation in the house in the senate that would allow the government to seek orders telling i as p.s. ad networks paint processors to blacklist websites that are considered broke and dedicated to infringing activities not only are all the tech giants opposed but so are hundreds of legal scholars think tanks even the conservative heritage foundation we've also seen the reddit community playing influential role in their anger got the go daddy to refer as their support and now they're even promising to
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target specific politicians the plan to vote yes but believe it or not there are still people that are joining the other ranks the boston globe for example just last week editorialized in favor stressing of the billions in losses due to copyright infringement so let's settle a few things once and for all as in how much actually guest gets lost in terms of jobs and revenue and why these bills won't really stop piracy anyway her disgust with me is joined sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute thanks so much for being here tonight it was a pleasure what do you think why would the boston herald or boston globe excuse me now with so many people in opposition of so protect ip editorialist for it you know i think one of the problems is. that you this is an area where so much of the information and research on the impact of piracy almost all of it really is basically industry funded and if you scratch the surface a little bit it's almost all i mean almost laughably incredible i mean in a literal not incredible in the sense of amazing research but incredible in the
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literal sense of not believable. and so people hear well billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars even you know hundreds of thousands of jobs that could be created in this sounds compelling to a lot of people i just don't take the time and look at the research often you can't a lot of the most basic underlying research that's done is funded by the movie studios and recording industry and then the methodology is sort of this. seriously you can actually go in there and check their work and say well did you make assumptions that make sense that for example software companies used to for a long time make these estimates based on the assumption that every single instance of a pirate piece of software was would have been a sale so the idea is basically if a guy in zimbabwe pirate's a four hundred dollar copy of photoshop. that would have been four hundred dollars for the software industry because he would have bought it with his entire lifetime income but at the same time right we see a lot of counter research you could say because so many people that you know that
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are in support of so far in support of protect ip well often point to certain research out there that will tell you that will hey it's actually the people that are going to download something from the internet that are watched you know a leaked clip of something that end up being the biggest customers that spending and spending the most money in the entertainment realm so can we trust that you know there is there is mixed research in the film is that a lot of these tend to be smaller scales studies so you do find you know university based research it's based on surveys and samples that does find things like this that you know for example most of these downloads are not actually displacing sales or that you know there is an effect of exposure and particularly down the line that you find is there's a lot of piracy of folks at the very top so eminem and lady gaga that piracy sometimes is displacing sales as you get further down to the artists that are already world famous the effect tends to flip and you find that piracy there is actually exposing people for the first time but you know there's less of this reacher is usually smaller scale and most importantly there are very highly paid lobbyists going around touting that research to journalists to you know or to
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members of congress in the name of you know the industry so what you see is basically reporters say well he's got an estimate and you know the studios say well we do even though it's usually a good example of the kind of ridiculous stuff that happens. the double and triple count this stuff so they say ok you paid ten dollars for a d.v.d. and the production. costs of that d.v.d.'s of ten dollars you know we pay eight dollars to the factory that printed it and then two dollars to the trucking company that shift it so that's ten dollars plus eight dollars plus to go now it's twenty dollars it's a multiplier it's magic you know but of course you can do that with anything and you can do the other way right and say ok you know someone didn't buy an album so they save ten dollars so instead they go off and at some drinks in a bar in the bartender you know what i'm going to haircut and then the buyer kind of i mean you can you can play these ridiculous games so it's difficult but you know and you know i mean they're just reporters because what happens is you have
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the new york times you have the boston globe reporting on things like this and these are publications that i think they often people read and they're not going to go up out searching for the counter research where in the depths of the internet you know just let's get down to what i think is a very important question is that the heart behind this legislation right is to stop online piracy protect copyrighted material there something bad about that does this even address the problem at all. why does it work so absolutely yes i mean piracy is not the multibillion dollar hundred thousand jobs problem some of the studios claim it's still a problem and something that it makes sense to try and work against in some way this isn't going to work just because it's so obvious that there are so many ways to get around it i mean you can change the hosts file on your computer you can download a browser plug and like which is just written as a demonstration after this legislation is proposed mafia fires it's already floating around you can use an overseas proxy you can use an overseas search engine you can get online and look up the ip address of
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a site that's been blogged there are so many ways to so easily get around this i mean if you use any software like tor which is financed and funded by the united states military as a tool for people overseas to be able to escape censorship in oppressive regimes if you use that as a privacy tool you already basically automatically in a lot of cases get around these blogs the idea that you know the same people who will go out and figure out how to install it to. so they can pirate stuff aren't going to also figure out how to install an application that will circumvent a block seems to me very optimistic given everything we've seen in the sort of storage lee is when you take down napster you take down one pirate site and ten more pop up somewhere else the idea that you can stop piracy through these kinds of measures is just contradicted by a decade at least of experience also you know judging by all the research that you've done on this if you had a better way to combat piracy what would you say it was also there are some proposals that suggest going after the money i think it's
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a good approach for counterfeiting that's one of the things they're also concerned about serving about overseas i mean they're selling bogus pharmaceuticals or something like that if you go after the money you try and cut off the payments to them that makes sense in those cases for something like bit torrent doing you know some of those advertising driven but often it's just people sharing stuff honestly the best way i think to combat that is to just find a way for people to get what i mean i think a really effective antipiracy measure is netflix you know when people say ok i can i can get lots of movies streamed to my home without having to go out and rent a d.v.d. for ten bucks a month yes sure i'd you know happy to pay ten months a month rather than you know going around trying to pirate stuff i think that's an effective anti piracy measures spotify in terms of figuring out how they were getting stuff to consumers that people are ultimately basically i think for the most part when they can afford it would prefer to pay for. in a convenient way at a reasonable price and you know i think that's that's what we're going to see as the way to combat if i guess maybe then some of the old people up in congress to
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keep writing legislation about new technologies they don't understand need to get netflix need to get spotify maybe they'll change their mind. thanks so much for joining us tonight and. i still have the show tonight rick santorum flip flops on your stance regarding contraception you can tell them and then happy hour you can now enroll for occupy one hundred one at some colleges and cops go after a five year old let me tell you why. on. to the police corruption. but what is protesting nobody seems to know. that never a pepper sprayed the face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic.
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he has no qualms about sharing his religious beliefs while he's campaigning as of his favorite topics are contraception for women and of course abortion now during a recent interview with a.b.c.'s jake tapper santorum was questioned about his views regarding contraception and there he explained that states should have the right to ban their use and he reiterated that it should be a state decision so he has a right to do that i've never questioned whether a state has a right to you know it's not a so it's not a constitutional right the state has the or has the right to pass whatever whatever statutes they have here and that's the thing i've said about the activism of the supreme court they've created rights and we're going to be left up to the people to decide and i. you know it sounds like rick is pretty passive on this issue he says that it's a states' rights issue it should be handled that way but that's really funny to hear him say that now because in the past rick santorum expressed very strong desires to stop federally funded contraception altogether not just leave it up to
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the states check out what he shared during an interview with caffeinated thoughts dot com after he pledged to remove any chance of federal dollars would go towards abortion or contraceptives but one of the things that we talked. to the person. i think dangerous. to. many christians treat well that's you know this country. it's not ok it's a license to. do things sex sexual abuse that is counter to what i think she should. all right quick question what does rick actually mean when he calls it a license to do things in a sexual realm that aren't how things are supposed to be i mean they're really going to harp on the religious ideology that sexual activities are solely for the purpose of procreating aside from being out of touch with reality i'm not sure that he understands what would happen if contraceptives didn't exist for starters the
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gun locker institute a nonprofit organization says that practically all females that are sexually active use a form of contraception between the ages of fifteen and forty four sixty two percent of american women between the ages of fifteen and forty four are still using it some form of birth control those are the women who would be affected if santorum got his wish which also point out that these contraceptives have been a huge help in preventing unplanned pregnancies and thus preventing many abortions institue also pointed out that publicly funded i.e. federal money spent on birth control helped in avoiding over eight hundred thousand abortions run planned pregnancies now those figures just more proof that there is a need for contraceptives in the country whether it's a state issue or a federal one but those two clips that i show you also prove that rick santorum is completely full of crap when he says it should be a straight issue his true judge is to destroy any type of activity in the sexual realm what as he calls it other than procreating and so for holding that stance
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even though you try to mask it during a recent interview rick santorum is tonight's told time where. ok guys it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight is lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r t and comedian tim young thanks for being here guys and a happy new year and in twenty twelve i'm pretty excited so first let's start with a story that i guess you could say has been carrying on from from two thousand. eleven occupy wall street the occupy movement obviously took over the country and now there is even a school that is going to basically be offering occupy one zero one classes we kind of wondered for a minute what exactly you might learn along going there and well this is some of what we saw. thank you.
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ok. all right word we're just getting we're just getting with this is i'm going to university basically there's they're sending you there and saying that i guess if you camp out you know take part you get full credit where are they going to camp out there non-zero you park anymore there are other encampments of one is the right thing a tent that's class one that about three classes and you learned how to make a big pot of lentil soup and then drumming comes about class five so that was we've got a lot of that's yeah that's advanced occupied and there's still i mean washington d.c. i guess it is yeah i do see i guess there's where they are but d.c. is where they can all come but in this sense then you know you've had still be a part of the occupy movement and still get your credits and all the same time it's a two fer it's a two for one it's a good deal because i think this is going to keep it in his school longer because they can't get jobs right so there just aren't a hand in activism they need in order to maybe enacted
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a change in order to get you know sort of being a part of the capitalist society that you're protesting against at the same time i did makes no sense. that a lot i don't think that's unfair because i don't think that it's fair to characterize occupy anything as just against capitalism you know it's not it's not it's not but you know but ultimately you are just spending a lot of time in schools a lot of oddly racking up a lot of college debt and then you learn the skills in order to protest against that debt there are a lot of one percenters at columbia i wouldn't be going there if i was not by protester no but it would be different on the one percent closer to right now we could get out of the one of our centers learn more about the occupy movement i think this is a win win all right let's move on to let's move on to a lawsuit that basically it's based on the supreme court case holder v humanitarian law project and basically what they're trying to say here is that by allowing terrorist organizations to use twitter. then twitter is providing material support
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to these terrorist organizations do you buy that i mean i think that's b.s. well i i think maybe i think in freedom of speech and it's part of the patriot act provision of course it's something that you talk about on your show all the time why would you want to monitor the terrorism but you and twitter pay the starbucks on capitol hill saugus we better get over there we know where they are actually i learned something else about this too i feel good about myself because i have more followers than a lot of the terrorist organizations international terrorist organizations have less followers than me that is the no more do you hear more dangerous connecting more people they couldn't give a couple tips there you go how to grow i mean but you've been talking about the n.b.a. so what's next you know indefinitely detaining american tweeters who the government doesn't like the way they're tweet twittering and military presence that's actually going to the dark movie i think eventually woody harrelson american tweeter who's in are you on twitter since you have such a presence i don't know drew carey maybe i don't think you have and you carry on like that. let's move on to another one this is this mom was not happy
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when her basically tell the story of what happened to her five year old. charlton mom says her local library crossed a line sending police to collect her daughter's overdue library books her mom says the little five year old girl was so frightened she burst into tears as. really i mean we talk about this all the time necessary like there was a six year old who got arrested for playing doctor last year and now you did return a library book and the cops are coming for a five year old and i mean they're playing doctor is a little bit more pernicious than the library book thing but i think this could either not last. i think that you really doctor as a librarian exactly that's what she's got the books out for this is the first stage you got to cut her off the cliff well you're on to something with that because porn is allowed in some public libraries like new york so you know they could all go together i said i still have your original rocky soundtrack checked out from an around the county public library in maryland from one thousand nine hundred well
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you know i'd be careful because there might be a knock on your door come in for me they're coming for you i think that there could be two really scary things here one is ok the library said these are the worst offenders with four thousand dollars in debt so this could show the lengths that cities are going to collect on debts with how dire straits people are in or it could show kind of the pernicious thing of debt and the police state which is that the police are going to you know i got that wrong but if you what i said i would like to read it and i got it right about the first of how we suddenly have debtors' prisons again in america right if you're going to live i know right they should lock up if i go and make the mom pay twenty thousand and bill to get her out you got your money there i know i thought of my other point which is they're going to be paying for the five year old to stay in prison and to feed clothe or yeah absolutely probably mark my other point was with cities being so broken they really afford to be setting police to collect library books good point but i redeem myself ok you. know this story is just absolutely. so this is the side of mountain dew i think in the clip there explaining pepsi is
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defense of guys trying to sue pepsi because they found a dead rat reclaims there is a dead rat or malice inside of the can and this is why they said no dice could happen. pepsi has launched what has to be the weirdest most all of putting defense in the history of our legal system they've hired an expert who is speaking on behalf of pepsi co to argue that mr ball couldn't found a dead mouse in his mouth and do because the soda would have reduced the carcass to a jelly like substance one before he ever pop the top. that is just so. i just. signed house and so i don't think i was going to twenty seven experiment shows actually acid and it melts down my my seventh grade science fair project which i one third place in the state with was seeing what the effects of soda on teeth it melts teeth in two weeks it just goes completely away we don't know you're bringing our experiences
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into gelatin i mean i believe everything is neon yellow that can never be good. for your. rats but ok really quickly before we wrap up we probably have time to talk about this but for some reason santorum was having a surge and so now there is a new product in his name. but to say i'll let you know it always makes me blush the frothy mix of. matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. ok that was the definition of santorum which now is up there when you google ads and so because of santorum surge there is now a santorum salad so just enjoy all of those awkward combinations. he and the rest i don't know why don't you know it's always served in the whites only section. ok guys thanks for joining me tonight that's a good night so thanks for tuning in and make sure to come back tomorrow we're going to ask if the u.s. actually supports democracy in the arab world or if we're actively working against
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more about washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture finally ends here iowans are caucus in right out of pick their republican nominee for president so will be mitt romney or ron paul or maybe even rick santorum and what happens if none of the above wins literally what happens if none of the above when it's possible also one thing that i will voters won't have to deal with tonight is right wing hurdles to vote so why haven't.
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