to understand that actually behind the noble motive is self-interest if we look at what happened in egypt the west backed mubarak right to the very last and then was no longer possible to back him when it was indefensible they dumped him and the same with the president of tunisia and then they moved very very quickly on libya what was happening in libya that was actually terrible really case in the name of human rights they kind of attacked libya the same with syria you know it's kind of it's very it's a protest movement it's democratic change and reform which are very worthwhile motives to support but there is another agenda there which has to do with broader global and regional strategies what has the libyan scenario failed in syria will the western powers change that tactic i think that libya was the template for syria they kind of went to the u.n. they got the no fly zone was lucian and that opened up libya to aerial attack and i think they thought that they could repeat this in syria but it didn't prove to be

possible largely because of russia actually because russia made it plain that it would not support another no fly and no fly zone resolution in the security council so this left the government of britain france and the u.s. in particular with you know they had to work out what policy they were going to pursue you know still think they would like to intervene in syria but they realize it's not going to look at not saying that libya is a different situation altogether thanks so much for the risks are much greater the dangers are much greater because intervention in syria how would you describe that whether you're talking about a buffer zone or you talk american military humanitarian causal as the french foreign minister does it still adds up to the same thing as the invasion of another country and syria would resist that around to get involved actively get involved it's hard to take the fallback position i think is to support. certain activities inside syria which are calculated and then the downfall of the assad government and

its replacement by. government will be formed presumably from the exiles from an agitated against the president would take take over in your book the unmaking of the middle east you chronicle the lawn and lead a history of western invasions in arab lands with all the efforts by the u.n. and arab league the dayton row of arab league is the threat of foreign military invasion for syria is in the past right or not yet of course is still a possibility of course as to the possible to put their body rather do because it's so risky for intervention would be service be however it was done would be to kind of maintain the support for what's happening inside syria on the side of the opposition and their calculation would be that sooner or later these precious if they maintained will result in the collapse of the assad government well as compare syria with the lead and iraq to what extent the syrian national council similar

to libya is national transitional council or iraqi national congress rockey national congress was almost a fiction the leader of no support inside iraq whatsoever he lived outside iraq for a long long time and he was pumped up because they wanted to create this exiled body called the iraqi national congress so there was an iraqi voice in the propaganda war against saddam hussein the libyan situation the lives of the libyan transitional council as you know basically would affect us from the governing tripoli they jump ship when it got too hot and they took a really forming the they went to benghazi and the transitional national council for all of whom we didn't know we knew someone from all the places we can't say the syrian national council is largely composed of all the mixture of people who have their roots who are inside syria but the dominant i think by exiles. he's been in paris for a long time like read one. who's based in washington and has very very close ties

with the state department you know what kind of clout what part of hold of these people have inside syria also not much. you know so there are similarities between these councils and of course you know that the transitional national council or national transitional council in libya. recognize the syrian national council as a legitimate representative the syrian people it's not that simple as that so it's kind of part of the the campaign against syria of which that that that now the lead part is now the libyan government is now part elections at various levels are currently on to go in in syria with more had so what do you think will bashar al assad remain in power as a result and we have a very very dangerous situation in syria which could have exploded into a very very nasty. total breakdown inside the country and could lead to a regional war so in this context let's see if this is given

a few months and see how the process works for russia does have. a base of popular support so i don't think you could say that the party would be doomed the moment they call free elections that could do well why do you think human rights watch talks and for media neglects the damage done by militant groups in syria it's somewhat of a mystery to me it's a mystery and the city has made some pretty. provocative claims in in with regard to syria one of them is that i think it was military people dressing up as doctors in homs hospital because any verification of that if it's a claim made on the basis of on name people. and similar claims have been made by other human rights organizations human rights watch the. u.n. human rights council its committee is all one way it's all about what the government is doing and making very very extreme claims the government's response

to the death of two hundred fifty six children for example. four thousand five thousand of dart there is no desegregation which is what the critical reader would want you know you see this week where they're coming from doesn't even know how many people have been killed in syria so far in its report. the human rights council report said four thousand but there was no explanation of that figure where they go. a few days later and lovely people are here is the un human rights commission or the security council and so far for. the figure it goes around the world and i think it lodges in the popular imagination is five thousand people being killed by the syrian government by the security forces by the north or whatever whereas in fact i don't think it's any doubt at all that a large number of military of civilians have been killed by armed gangs about of it but by factors so what we actually need to do is to this aggregate these figures

like how many people have been killed by the syrian army how many of them were innocent entirely innocent how many of them were men who picked up arms. how many civilians have been killed by gangs so forth and so on you need to break the whole thing down but these figures are not broken down since we are in turkey let's talk about turkey a little bit turkey definitely wants to be associated with the changes in this region to be seen as a leading play in this movement so may turkey use this moment to its advantage turkey before the policy for the last seven years of creating zero zero problems on the borders ok and that meant kind of dealing with iran doing with syria and turkey and syria had a rather complicated relationship over many many years. and so these problems were resolved and they did lead to very good stable balance relationships with syria and

with iran in particular and all of a sudden the policy was reversed instantly like turkey did a sharp right hand i think the turkish government seemed to think that the syrian government for the protest movement got up and running and i think the turkey gobbler calculated that's only a question of time before the syrian government goes and therefore i think it want to be it want to be riding the wave ok put on the crystal the way the question of the wave of reform and change in the middle east and to be seen as the leader of this movement. turkey legs but the fact is that the syria as i said. this is not libya if anyone interferes with us like across our borders to cause an earthquake in this region so the stakes for everyone including turkey in this situation a very very high but turkey made this decision that i think that affable go therefore we support the opposition therefore we put we support the syrian national

council by dint of space in istanbul therefore we support free syrian army do you think that was a wrong decision in doing so they have antagonized iran they have antagonized iraq . because now iraq has come out quite strongly in support of syria and of course to live in these governments by his book has also been very very critical of turkey so the change in foreign policy has kind of that dump the zero problem policy and what they've done that is create problems now if if if our side goes ok then so we're tough but if if if if he doesn't somehow manage to ride this out. well they're not suppose it's going to be eight on someone's face you know and they'll have your pull back from a position that you had declared and actually is not really terrible any longer you've got to deal with this government here like it or not is turkey being sincere in its intentions saying it wants to politically in syria instability in the region at the line or so with with qatar with saudi arabia with united states with britain

and france that's where it is that's what stands and so the rhetoric about humanitarian intervention a buffer zone humanitarian strip has been a kind of civil thing in discussion about syria over the last six months and took along with that but they know the dangers they do of course they know the dangers that if there was a move across the border if turkey somehow we're talking to taking the lead part it would open up a pandora's box of problems you know and i. you know turkey itself has said you know there's no question of invention but it seems to me this is definitely a bit of ambivalence over this issue like it's an option that somehow has to wear however it might be carried out.

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and you will find this a football team that we're going to talk about more management skills kerry but nobody mancini happy with his side from that defeat sunderland just a couple of days ago to thrash liverpool i've got the details just after this. are you watching the sport here and these are the headlines three in a.z. city beat liverpool three nil to race clear at the top of the english premier league. title rivals months you know i did have a chance to get level with a trip to newcastle. i don't cool the top ten and start the new year in style with the big three caps. but start there with the football when. the city have beaten liverpool three nil to gain three points clear at the top of the english premier league city had lost to sunderland just forty eight hours before

but put that disappointing behind them with goals and where ya touré and james milner penalty the ne split the sending off the sitting midfielder gareth barry in the seventy third minute liverpool were playing without striking luis suarez after deciding not to appeal against his eight match ban for racially abusing manchester united's patrice evra elsewhere the five point fine city after their one know when i have a west and sunderland continue to impress on the new manager martin o'neill with a full one victory over struggling wigan but in this city it was leading the way. plays by the way to. fight every ball against sunderland but. we were lucky again tonight that in that all three four we had some probably in the second out we did a good performance of the shooter school he reflects a really good way to obviously. most women deserve to win but.

i think the lesson that. he's. doing for no clinical we're going to suffer. there's a lot of things. we can correct well tonight everton take on bolton amongst united have the chance to get back on level terms and city travel to newcastle both sides looking to fans back after disappointing defeats to blood and little respectively. here with all that you know the clubs like and so you know. the big clubs come along and you go get you so far up and ready for. looking forward to tomorrow you know it's of the back of a disappointing result fancy the might be fired up for this wheel of the game be more livable so. when people. my mark david beckham has decided against signing for

perry sanjay man the l.a. galaxy star was on the verge of joining the french side who have wealthy owners but the former england captain has opted to stay in los angeles where his family settled. this point will continue to look back at the main stories of twenty eleven one of which saw former chelsea player damped start to make a name for himself in management russian side band he guided them to eight spot before the winter break and spoke to us just a few months into the season i am here to move former chelsea star and current head coach of local combined with the ask. me to his a very busy man and said he would answer as many questions as i scored belters so here goes. well likely than has occurred inside and he is going to answer a few questions despite my misses than you left chelsea three years before

a man of our mortgage but the co-op do you feel any regret that you weren't there when salaries went sky high and the blues why only one believe. yeah i think it was about time for me to leave the club but i didn't know at the time that a bet on which is going to come and also. in this time i was not in the good relationship with the coach who was the only then i had to leave but i was sorry for sure because after two years i left chelsea won the championship you spearheaded the only area a team which played in the champions league so why did you decide to make a move to combine a team which has been just relegated the owner of the club and the governor to the region. especially in a manner for me three times in my house to convince me to come here i think that was going to cities and in the club i was working i was sure it is going in the wrong direction because they finish the money and in this moment this club will

need to disappear from football and i think i did the right thing to move in the right time before they come to bonn they had five coaches in one ear and i was going to be scared about the situation but they said they want to change something and leave even when we lost three games in the road and there was the pressure a little bit last year i know that the owner of the club said. that a school in to be the new york fed was sort of the bomb and he'll trust me do you think that the world cup and twenty teams can change something in this i'm sure i'm kind of percent sure after the world cup that i shall be much better not just in the national team what also in the club competition and they will learn a lot from this and it's good for the country because it'll be a new stadium of snow airports new no streets new hotels i think it's fantastic for russia that the world cup will be here and i wish after the world cup i'll be russia because that will be the time to be here how do you think chelsea will do

next season. i think everything will depends on the transfer will be as much as tonight as these all are strong and they already been buying to replace. at the moment chelsea is doing nothing and even if they change the coach only the coach cannot change the needle so in my opinion some players to win the champions league and when the tide thank you very much has been a pleasure. now in other news russia have reached the final of the under twenty world ice hockey championship speeding hopes canada six five and a real thriller in calgary the russians have been six one up after one hundred from new guinea prison itself but the host then stormed back with four goals in five minutes in the final period to set up a really tense finale however russia managed to hold on i will now face sweden in the final after they came from xenical down to the finland three two in overtime. over to the tennis courts now where defending champion roger federer has brushed

aside twenty ten when it make light of a junket to move into the second round of the cattle open the swiss maestro also beat the russian in last year's final an early clash between two former champions then proving up sided federer able to break through and set an immediate twenty minutes taking sixty. he was unable to regain his composure after a poor start with cetera taking the match sixty six to win just under an hour so the swiss continuing his run for a full heart i swear piscitelli coventry last he was among those watching succeed alex vogel more log jr in a comeback win over felipe of the landry also in round one the russian was outclassed by the italian in the opening set as a plan to balance seventy five but a lot of them began to show the resilience which is in him eighteen please most improve player of the year award the twenty eight year old making a spliff turnaround in the second set to close out a five seven six six two way. while rafael nadal is staying on track to become the

first spanish debit to win the capital open the topsy appeared to be heading for an easy first round victory after winning the set against philipp kohlschreiber the german veteran however was able to take the second step down the tempo in the to eventually grind out a six three six seven six three win in just over two and a half. i expected to losing wildcard jersey. today much damage you can show will freak the song of a twenty seven year old first to you say with the world number six to tie break the song did ultimately show you see period after the police cheering performance in the but was pushed very hard and a seven six seven six seven six one when italian flavio topola is next for the frenchman. and finally it's not often you get to see a snowmobile fly but that's essentially what happened in san diego this way. marina

park playing host couple of well back on the thames for the longest snowmobile cycle jumps the valley and robbie madison the brave men ready to hit we still they could be carrying the water gap at around one hundred sixty kilometers per hour yes it really executed by the parallel valley getting a distance of one hundred thirteen meters while madison managed ten more john good enough to make these poor people record the event wasn't the latest in the red bull new year series which continues this month. so that's the sport for the moment more stuff. well the. technology innovation. is developments

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internationally as in comment twenty four hours a day this is r.t. the us says its war ships will continue their missions in the persian gulf responds to rounds of warning to keep aircraft carriers one away from its waters tensions rose as the u.s.s. john stennis passed through an area where iran was holding ten days of naval wargames when the drill began around threaten to block a key oil supply route if new u.s. sanctions hit its export led to back down drill through a number of missiles test which are said to be long range for the russian military since iran cannot produce intercontinental ballistic missiles iran is under increasing pressure from western countries which believe it might be developing a nuclear weapon asia times correspondent.