say it allows police to stop anyone on the street based purely on the person's appearance governor brewer's response when asked by a reporter what illegal immigrant looks like. i do not know i do not know what legal immigrant that's like but the sticking point is what to do with the millions of people who are in this country in this country illegally the u.s. government will have no idea who they are and where they are in this very dangerous time that is a very dangerous thing. and another three. when i ran around and around the america of the big. one but the people in mexico that need help oh yeah all those people my lazy family didn't want to come on the trip. close to your health and yes every year i send them a map. i wrote the bill the that the president signed in october that

takes the san diego fence eight hundred fifty four miles across arizona new mexico and texas and it's mandatory. but it's not for the very delayed years by. the statue. of the legally allowed legally.

given the standing now in all of these holy books where profits go off into the desert and somehow the isolation brings into a spiritual revelation. started a little ways back say towards the end the last summer it started in me out here so i was just so into this place you know i know all the animals here it's really bizarre you just become part of the. you're going to come out here very hard very conservative things to where you've started coming up things about spirit about a danity with the earth and looking at people in different situations.

i had to go to mexico oddly enough to go to a dentist if that is funny i'm outsourcing myself. was there i noticed how much poppy was in the town and it's a fairly decent town. that's when i started noticing the look at the migrants face i mean there's more resigned capital and you know they're at the bottom of their world basically i have to work almost every day on the bottom of my world. i'm a analog man in the digital world.

going back into the year you were going back into it pretty much got to make sure you were armed regardless of what they're going to. march into drug dealers or anything like that there's a lot of rattlesnakes back there. and they tend to get them to finally you know nobody you have orders you know you get a shark and with you. about this noise well these people. already know and we're on our way to. the best highway that leads to america i grew up in the sixty's i participated in a lot of the marches that were back then i was a young kid i was fifteen years old ran away with the hippies all of this started we stimulating and it's unfortunate because like i say i know how much they have to deal with over the years and it's nonsense but on the other hand it's polluting my

society and we're starting to get like that over the. years one of the major trails into the united states so. you can see how well walk this is. like a trail in a park in central park. place you can down here when they come in coyotes use these things for the markets so when he's coming in he sees the reflection of the light off this the rest of the can is black he takes his people past. flips the can around when he's making his return the moonlight lights up his little silver bottom and he's in and he's out.

from there are four of us. we are from when we come from the same area we're all friends. if catches us and throws us back. we'll go back together the four of us. we have to look for other ways to earn money we have to work outside the area we live to find a bit of money. in mexico we get paid one hundred pesos per day that's about seven us dollars but now one hundred pesos a day isn't enough food costs about fifty pesos over there for example we just did here cost fifty pesos before tax we are in a day is only enough to eat twice

a day and then the money is gone down where i live the father the son and go for one two or three years to work make a little money. for. us to build a house in our home town. supercede only a small house where we can live. here those are the ones that think there is and use their heads. best among those that don't use their heads come back the same. without any money. for. water bottles. so it's good. mexican. family photo and religious one you know not only what they do if they're going to lose these id cards they melt the picture because it's like when i give this to the border patrol

you know you're in this country illegally. and. it going to be looking for you. i wonder if this is your necklace as well. as a picture for maybe the sixty's you know guy with a moustache lady of guadalupe which just happens to be the treaty that we've got up there on the border. well i'll do is i'll take these tony's into border patrol and. you know she's got and he wants warrants or anything like that know that as well as a lot of criminals come to you too and. that's one of biggest problems we've got to start getting that stopped. so we're on the main trail right here but you can notice that there's trails coming in other places this right he had his trail it's leading up like this it doesn't look like much but they will follow it it leads to

that white panel up in the distance that's where the border mocker is it's like an op less like you know washington monument to put their backs against it and it kind of walk up the wall and all the trails to come up at a canyon they were going to join us up in here and you going to see did this is pretty much. the central figure in coming into camp with self twenty eight it was overlooked by early a minute man but. i'm the kind of guy who doesn't mind getting his pants dirty so i come out here you know. well you know if you take my bike please. i'm going to take more people yes are you going to take this truck or about one

yeah how fair and how fair yes where your guys yeah we're here oh you're all here. yes. so what are we waiting for. the longer. i'm. not this truck about one. that's low i like on you know was. well if we get through it's good. and in if it doesn't go well and we don't make it

over well we'll try again you know if not then. there's no other solution. then we can only wait for god. can i do so we can free our path and then let us pass. obviously days. some tracks up here. looks like somebody had walked up behind us and. we're going to look at them in case we have to call them in the border patrol.

ok so what we got here you see just round the front that means that they were in a board of it's a piece of fabric they were up around issues so they don't leave an exact printed issue you'll get rid of it by the time they get up to the kid ninety four and he's run back pretty much. and. yeah i'm a good guess this is like a kid's play toy so maybe they were carrying the kid with them. and could drop that they must been in kind of a panic because they must have seen the headlights coming back down on them like tends to scare them but it didn't mark these food footprints of mine so that people know who was here so we'll put him in m. and m. the border patrol sees it they know minutemen were here during a real sense and calling it in because we don't know which way he had it he could have gone that way and that way or both. so there's somewhere around this right now

but i don't have my night vision with us otherwise we will go out and visit them. i have come close. to. call him going to.

come to. ok. well. yeah right. deep my he was right if you're right if you want to write my. heart

let. me repeat about. me please come. see you don't get it you got me you got to be kidding me oh my. god my. god you came here to protest you don't believe in the stands with too many of us not only that you know which many groups he's very divisive and we like to call him the father of eight when he didn't say the ads promoting division in doing voiceovers and scaring people some of the tactics that are used today. was good stuff post it read that. got it right. you can't stop us was that why you're out here in the u.s. government built a wall between the united states and mexico we were totally opposed to that so what

happened was as of december of one thousand nine hundred ninety four almost seventy percent of dying passed in the desert well before it was very rare to have somebody dying maybe one or two people a month also you start having one or two people a day rushing to desert. so what happened was we said we've got to do something about this. you want to thank all of you for joining us i mean do you come out on ask you know that we have some money people that are right here for the for the first time i'm glad that you're all out here so the first thing that we do not miss out on the maybe some bugs or whatever is going to flip the rock up and it's going to get out quickly because if you see the same thing with us that you fuck off. and then. we do make noise with lots of pieces to be scattered around this this one looks pretty good. one has a whole case in the gallows look good that they don't need to be refurbished however the series of extra water give a lot of it we have a lot of water with us so maybe somebody can go in grab a couple of gallons just because that will gallons.

the my good when they're crossing they don't know what this is they just see it and then and there tracked it to it's one of the things that we've been doing one of the times when i was on the today show actually the guy said you get some solar to little lights and we do have them so i'm not out here and in other areas because they're crossing at night that way they see light at night and they're attracted to it and we that's the border patrol not to do is to drive around in a circle and drag the tires or whatever where they can see this footprint what they'll do is they'll drag around here and see footprints then they know somebody around here we don't do that because we want to fight with and use the water to get the water we don't want to die and they don't want to get out here either.

and i think. you know while. max was that johnny lies to me gentlemen i'm not over naco arizona while you congratulations as

a going brother have been up here in about six weeks yeah i've been in civilization you know all their jump and. they're comin. oh look i want to get back to england in fact you build a new bathroom. strip out this trailer just for storage we can try to clean up the action for everything and i'm sure you can tidy. still operating out of a still in. the border yes but done here for years. oh here here's a fun your last week. oh there's two things a lot of i need one. they go do you guys have been supplying me pre-light is for the longest time ok well i asked ridge runner if that's if he left his tooth brush up here you says no it's not as to rush so i looked at the whole picture not just a tooth brush we have a rock on the well you have

a lock on the right point that. well where is it going the more we go to the usa they can climb up that dirt mound go right over the fence make a bee line and go like i would want for. these kind of people like fight this fight for because. they would lay him down he is sort of to get a live comfortable have a nice ranch not have to worry about things. by themselves a nice piece does property and they wind up having to put up with all of this get it eight foot gate get all these dogs live every night defensively that's not the way it should be in america.

so you. see you know a little but then they're coming over the fence by the hundreds every night that i watch them sometimes they'll sit out you can with my binoculars and i can sit like a watch and come over and you call border patrol and you know i watch them they run run down my property i watch them run down the side one time they had a small child with them and they were dragging that smart that child trying to get away trying to hide they saw me and i saw them and they knew it and they work that poor little kid i felt so sorry for they left him they left one yeah they left one letter and another one and come back just it was in the news today my that we have all year old kid they left here for eight days how many times would you say that come across your property and it's got to be almost every night it's like it is almost every night they come by here they're either come in this road or behind us on this other side and when they come through here they're moving near there are

still close to the border the border is right there so they're still running so the dogs alert us. and the dogs do have a chop and a service and that's their service such why we have them we love our dogs but they also for performance i. tried to get copy while visiting correlation between the red pickup truck we saw there this morning i wonder if there's any connection copy. on hamam. she did original concept of the minutemen project band we're just going to bunch of all farts this gentleman right here he was with us in arizona back in zero five

when it all started. and i care where it is are we still protecting the border for some sort of oracle how many of us are there why six total us and that's it of the original concept everybody else is out you know that donal's parking lots or home depot centers are chasing legislation to stop employers know man you've got it all wrong got to close the border would get to seal the border that will solve the problem coming down here and sitting on this line day in and day out day in and day out night and day through the weather hot cold stopping the cockroaches from coming over the wire is protecting the country. in two thousand and five it was the sequence of popping a cold than it did have to have a dozen people and you know they do is they hang out at their temple they go to

start taking credit for all these detentions but the years they have been a total failure. because when they really do detain somebody when they turn somebody over to the border patrol it will be just past the border patrol has to give that report to the mexican consulate they have to do this along an international agreement and they need to know the crime so it was the minimum that did it and the minimum point is some people out that's in the report. in the more than two years of the minimum amount or there's been less than one hundred people that have been stopped because of the minimum. that's going to.

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