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i'm next so much longer until mankind wipes itself off the planet i have an answer for you after the break. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now and. i think rock is feed on it well. whenever the government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you give them their freedom.
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you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture.
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welcome back to the big picture i'm sam sax coming up in this half hour it's five minutes till midnight or i should say five minutes till doomsday i'll explain in just a moment and what happens when millionaires go wild crazy story out of florida says this shows us just how dangerous disgruntled millionaires can be and finally pennsylvania governor tom corbett doesn't know jack about economics luckily tom will teach him a little lesson in tonight's daily ted. if
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there's something on your bucket list you haven't done yet you have. about five minutes to do it at least according to the doomsday clock yesterday the figurative time piece run by the bulletin of the atomic scientists that is supposed to gauge just how close the human race is to blitter aging itself crept one minute closer to midnight with midnight signifying the apocalypse and now stands at eleven fifty five just five minutes away from annihilation the clock which was created in one thousand nine hundred seven has been adjusted twenty times in the last sixty plus years to account for the changing threats to emit humanity as well as the work put in by us humans to resolve those threats in the one nine hundred fifty s. the clock as close as it ever has to midnight ticking to eleven fifty eight and in the early ninety's we moved seventeen minutes away from extinction but here we are
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today back knocking on the door of doomsday so why is that. there's some light on this is professor robert socolow member of the science and security board with the bulletin of the atomic scientists and professor of mechanical aerospace engineering at princeton university professor sokol a welcome to the show i'm very pleased to be with you first of all tell us about your organization and why this clock was created in the first place back in one thousand forty seven of the bulletin atomic scientists was created by the american weapons scientists by some of them at the end of the war they had built something that they were extremely alarmed about ever being used again after was using the regime and nagasaki concerned with who was in charge of the nuclear weapons they avoid that and what under what conditions they could be used again and they formed this organization to a large to alert the american public and the world public to the dangers of nuclear
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weapons. and they this magazine called the bulleting tomic scientists was founded at the same time as the organization and has the same name and almost at the very beginning they set up a as an icon what we would now call an icon a clock whose number of minutes from midnight expressed the dangers to the planet the threat to the planet of annihilation hundreds of millions of being of people being killed by the use of nuclear weapons the organization thrived i'm of the generation who was taught in my undergraduate years by some of the scientists who actually weapons scientists during the second world war. moving into our generation the alarm that these weapons might never be used again and the clock continued in the last two years the meaning of the clock has been expanded to include other threats to humanity including climate change and other kinds of
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weapons like my own chemical weapons that could annihilate lots of people but the same time. and i joined the the group that actually a small number of us who have a solemn responsibility once a year to meet and decide whether to move the hand and if so by how much. is a morning and then yesterday afternoon we announced our decision and i understand that two years ago you were part of the decision making process but decided to move the clock back a minute to six minutes away from midnight. i have been part of those both those decisions two years apart similar similar process handful of us who are the members of something called the science and security board of the bolivian tomic scientists were chosen by the by the parent board for our expertise in either climate or. form for the most part people in the weapons world and. and one thousand
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and two thousand two thousand and nine the end of two thousand and nine with announcing the beginning of two thousand and ten with the president obama just being selected as president beginning to articulate a policy of your personal with the rest of the world a lot of excitement in the rest of the world about a new american leader that we could somehow makes have some breakthroughs in arms control and climate change and on the basis of a lot of expectation and the kind of euphoria that was part of our life our world and particularly this country in two thousand and nine we decided to move the clock back from five minutes to midnight to six mins midnight and of course what's changed in spain to move it by living with as we did the stock taking yesterday the question we asked ourselves it is the world and the world realize this hope of having substantially reduce the dangers of nuclear war first of all climate change as well. in a way that we had hoped would be going on in the. period just two years ago and the
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feeling of the group was on balance we have lost ground we are at the world is more like the world before the u.s. presidential election than it is the love right after the presidential election at this time because their weapons are still very much desired in many parts of the world the u.s. and russia have made some real strides with the start treaty but we are we are not acting as if we are we want to get all the nuclear weapons removed from the planet so we're going to zero that's a port of thought which is which is working its way in the market discussion and global discussion hasn't really taken hold sufficiently we haven't been able to secure conference a test ban treaty in southeast asia where it's a very fickle arm over the the instability the talk of the government with a nuclear armed power that hasn't happened in war so for professor if we have just a minute left and i know you don't speak on behalf. the entire organization but your own personal opinion here what what is it do you think. you guys are looking
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for to move the clock backwards what kind of concrete things might happen again we have just a minute left if you could. give us i mean i haven't so i or for the world really to understand that these are the news of both. weapons that we must work our way out from away from and move move international policy away from ever consider using these weapons and have all countries decided they're better off without them and where their neighbors without them and move to the international regime which most deadly away from weapons on the climate side big we've got to understand that we have to act internationally with a price on carbon and other ways of winning the world from fossil fuels over this over the next period and we were on the verge of doing that in two thousand and nine and specially us we have to see world leadership we've done the opposite so yes american leadership first of all and. and enough cross the board as it has to
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try to make the world a more safe place and understand how dire these dangers are worth more to take science seriously as a way to understand these issues and not to pretend that you can use anything other than science to come to grips with both side and let's hope let's hope some of those things are followed through on professor robert socolow with the. site which organization concerned bulletin of the tablet of the atomic scientists thank you very much for coming on the web site is the bulletin or the bulletin dot org everybody check it out a really fascinating stuff you guys are working on thanks a lot for coming on. you bet. this is john castle is a very very wealthy man and he's the chairman of the extremely lucrative private equity firm castle harlan and he's also the subject in tonight's story when
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millionaires attack according to the palm beach daily news seventy six year old john castle is accused of breaking his waiters finger at an upscale restaurant this past saturday night according to the police report a waiter at the club collette restaurant brought the checkout to mr cassels table which for some reason enraged castle so much they derived the server asked him you schmuck why did you bring the bill to the table that's when castle grabbed the waiters finger and it wasn't because the waiter was trying to make a pull my finger joke in squeezed in twisted it until it broke so far the waiter as yet to press charges against the described old millionaire deciding to consult an attorney first that's a pretty good idea as for what might have caused the tassel to freak out it's anyone's guess you could have your choice of first world problems from having too much ice in his drink to water marks on his silverware who knows but castles
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alleged violence did put one doctor and one nurse to work saturday night mending a broken finger so i guess millionaires really are job creators after all. up next america celebrates an ominous birthday and i'll give you the reason why there is nothing worth partying over. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through that sort of to be made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global missionary zeal where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more.
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ten years ago today our nation to begin shuffling suspected terrorists into a facility at guantanamo bay where many have been to the where many have been detained indefinitely without trial in those ten years get more is housed actual al qaeda operatives like police shaikh mohammed the alleged mastermind of nine eleven as well as people who are completely innocent like an eighty nine year old man who u.s. military documents said suffered from quote major depressive disorder senile dementia
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and aust you arthritis. but was still detained indefinitely for months at get out of fear that he might be a terrorist but he might have a pipe bomb in his walker or something or a seventy year old man who authorities concluded quote there is no reason on the record for detain detainees being transferred to guantanamo bay and quote yet he was stuck to get money for months as well or a fourteen year old boy named nicky butt who was detained a good move for a full year before investigators finally concluded that he was not a terrorist and that instead he had been kidnapped by the tide of taliban not to mention the countless other detainees who resided in get mo just for wearing the wrong watch the wrong model of a casio watch an f ninety one w. that authorities believe is a telltale sign that whoever is wearing it is also an al qaeda bomb maker the watch retails for about six bucks on learning case you're interested in in case you want
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to see what the inside of good mobile apps like but despite all this absurdity and despite president obama's pledge to close gitmo when he was running for president the facility is still open and still in the indefinite detention business and since president obama just recently signed into law the national defense authorization act which expands the powers in regard to indefinite detention of suspected terrorists business that get sadly be better than ever a few weeks ago tom gave his take on indefinite on indefinite detention in america and asks this very important question. question and it really is a question is is our nation in more danger right now than it was during the revolutionary war i really don't think so historian david hackett hackett fischer wrote a book called washington's crossing. and in that book he said in seven hundred seventy six american leaders believed it was not enough to just win the war they also had
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to win in a way that was consistent with the values of their society and the principles of their cause one of the greatest achievements was to manage the war in a way in a manner that was true to the expanding humanitarian ideals of the american revolution you see the american revolution was based on the values of the enlightenment as articulated by john walk in john jock rousseau and even arguably thomas hobbes and certainly by franklin roosevelt. benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson and james madison we seem to have forgotten how to win wars consistent with those kinds of values with those and lightman values but george washington understood this at the battle of trenton for example he'd captured a thousand has sions these were german mercenaries base and he ordered his troops to treat them in accordance with the values that this new nation it was not yet
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even a nation actually was fighting for then a battle of princeton washington sent this order to his troops in regard to how to treat british prisoners of war he said treat them with humanity and let them have no reason to complain of our copy in the brutal example of the british army in their treatment of our unfortunate brother and who have fallen into their hands is the fact the matter is the british army when they took american soldiers as prisoners they would torture them many of them died being tortured they would indefinitely detain them they could they kept them in in stinking cells and fed them virtually nothing or just water and bread. indefinite detention and torture and that kind of cruel treatment george washington knew was the way of our enemies not of us. torture as the kind of torture that
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george w. bush bragged about his autobiography as the way of our enemies not of the united states of america we need to remember the last that george washington taught us but there's. if you have two thousand dollars to your name just two thousand dollars does that make you too rich to receive food assistance from the government pennsylvania's republican governor tom corbett think so his state's department of public welfare came out with a new rule set to take effect on may first that disqualifies anyone with two thousand bucks to their name from receiving food stamps it doesn't matter if you're out of work or you're sick if you have two thousand dollars in assets which
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nowadays doesn't go very far at all you can't get help governor corbett wants you to be completely broke in complete desperation at rock bottom living in your car before he'll lift a finger to help you put food on the table for your kids but why the two thousand dollar threshold well that's what it was in one thousand nine hundred and since that was the year reagan was elected why not return back to it right when the governor doesn't do is account for inflation you know how things like food gas rent and health care tend to get more expensive over time. accounting for inflation two thousand bucks in one nine hundred eighty is like five thousand four hundred bucks today in other words you have to be a heck of a lot poorer today when forty nine million americans are living in poverty by the way to receive benefits than you needed to be in one nine hundred eighty governor corbett claims the new rule is needed to stop people from quote taking advantage of the food stamp program that's reasonable except pennsylvania has the lowest food
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stamp fraud rate in the nation at just one tenth of one percent that's it just one tenth of one percent not only that governor corbett is ignoring the potential economic benefits of food stamps did you know that every dollar dished out in food stamps to help poor people eat every single dollar translate into a dollar seventy nine and increased economic activity it's simple economics when more people have more money in their pocket either through work or through federal assistance when jobs are scarce as they are today then they spend more and businesses have to hire more and those new hire is go out and they spend more also so the question is why don't republicans understand this time recently broke down how all of this works how giving assistance to poor people stimulates an economy and it's the subject of tonight's daily take. back to democracy bill we've we've
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been here before and there's basically two competing theories of economics that are being played out the democrats are playing demand side which is how economics of work for six thousand years the republicans are playing supply side which is how economics of work for the last thirty years which is one of the reasons we're in such deep trouble now with to start out with demand side this is this is how it actually works late here is here's a little town that has been basically devastated by the bush great depression that we're experiencing right now we have just a couple of homes here we've got a a farm or the you know a field out here a silo and. a little grocery store supermarket and so not much happy people are out of work right they they're just scraping by so we come in as the government and we say ok we're going to give you some unemployment money we're going to do the opposite of what rick snyder is doing
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because you're unemployed right now here's some cash we're going to give that to the homeowners so the homeowners then take some of that cash and they then they go to the supermarket they buy things. and the owner of the sewer and they know they're buying things from the sewer in the owner of the supermarket than course has to give some money to the farmer the farm now is making money and they say you know gee maybe we ought to buy something from like you know a store i mean let's let's actually you know get the a.t.'s lawn service out here and fix up our you know the help clean up the farm and make it look better and you know let's. buy some shoes and things and it's not just the farmer by the way because you know these people have some money too and in fact and so then you know it's a let's open a shoe store let's open a clothing store you know put some then you know put some on it because there's demand now because there's money circulating in the environment let's let's open this restaurant here just let's let's open juice at his restaurant and they're
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going to get some now what happens when all these small businesses open they all need employees so they're going to give money from them to the people in the houses they're going to say come back to work and so you get more houses and more people move in and they've got jobs because they're working for these people here and what has happened is that a little bit of money that was put in to jumpstart the thing in terms of either you know food stamps slash welfare payments or unemployment payments that little bit about money going to the going to the store and the farmer and to these other stores then circulates and creates what's called a virtuous cycle in economics and as i said this is economics one hundred one this is fun and the story basically in the epic of gilgamesh written six thousand years ago about the city state or now here's the conservative supply side theory their theory is that that's all nonsense and that instead what you should do is take all the money and you should give it to the rich people you just give it to the rich people where you go guys have
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a pile of money and the supply and then the rich people will do something with that money well it turns out most of what the rich people do and of course you give a bunch of money to big corporations you say please create some jobs but the rich people the corporations are going ok thanks for the money we're going to take that money we're going to stick in the bank. and it's just going to sit there in the bank and i mean you know maybe they'll buy a few things one of these stores might be gucci's but you know basically there's not a lot of economic activity being created by this and so what happens is because there's no economic activity going on all you know all of these are starting to and particularly if a lot of money is going to big corporations so we end up with monopolies they're putting out of business the small companies that just knock him over because you know everybody is just buying from the big chains the big corporations that got the giant tax breaks that the little companies they didn't get giant tax breaks and so
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what happened even the giant supermarkets you know in the and you know knocking them out about a business and so what happens is you know the people are now in a crisis because they're getting laid off because of the consolidation of the big corporations and because these giant corporations by the way are shipping the jobs overseas and so people you know are losing their homes people are committing suicide suicide rates actually go up the b.b.c. did a spectacular one hundred year analysis of suicide rates in the u.k. and australia and they found that that whenever conservative governments came in suicide rates went up whenever liberal governments came in suicide rates went down so you got more suicides now on the other hand you may have more households because you know when you have poverty as poverty increases in the united states as inequality increases teenage pregnancies go up so maybe it we're going to add a house back here because we've got you know these extra babies coming online but they're very very poor babies i mean you can forget about the money the money's been sucked up. why all the rich guys over here who are putting it in the bank and
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by the way the bank might not even be in the united states the buy bank might be in switzerland writes for the take of that money and putting it in in u.b.s. you know we're we're phil gramm the guy who you know graham least while in the commodity futures modernization act is on the board of directors or at least was so this is the difference between these two systems between demand side economics and supply side economics and how supply side economics wipes out entire economy which is why in the last thirty years eighty percent of all the growth in our economy of all the money all the benefits eighty percent in the last thirty years has gone to the top one percent of americans and the average american today the average one american worker or today is making twenty seven hundred dollars less a year than he was making when ronald reagan came into office they've been stealing us blind it's an insane theory it's time to put it to bed it's time to put it to you give it a nice funeral let's go back to classical economics. and that's the big picture for
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welcome to the loner show or get the real headlines with none of the mercy or can live in washington d.c. tonight we have a horrible new video that's been released of u.s. marines urinating on dead afghan bodies get some commentary from our guest michael hastings and also talk about his new book the operators he's the rolling stone reporter the became the tory is for ending general stanley mcchrystal career but he hasn't stopped there then today is the ten year anniversary of the opening of guantanamo bay.

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