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also doubts over the euro zone's ability to tackle its debt grows as nine nations get a credit rating cut france losing its status downgrade prompted the drop in the markets from germany faster reforms among some members. were next to knotty the author of dictatorship to democracy jean shops the book is described by some as the blueprint for nonviolent revolutions. asks whether his concept is realistic. i'm sitting down with gene sharp his book from dictatorship to democracy is seen by many as a guide on how to carry out a revolution through nonviolent means it's often referred to as the bible of calo gravel lucian's dr sharp looking at how revolutions and forward in the arab world
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do you see it as transition from dictatorship to democracy i see a first step in. the sense of bringing down the old system the old dictatorial system and it doesn't seem to you that people there are trading one form of oppression for another they're often happens. that happens and it's a good set to bring down a person. this person's so they have to be very careful but we think the egyptians weren't very careful what they have now is their military brutally cracking down on protesters we hear about all kinds of abuses islamists are gaining power in the country my question is this what kind of democracy could the current state of affairs in egypt possibly create. removes made a mistake if you've never agreed that mubarak condition gives the power to the army and then i'll resign. because that's it i mean it's been the agent
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of repression in egypt for decades and they're going to change overnight it's unclear. as i don't know i do that the to the internet is what their pricing is and all. that it's a different kind of situation than the freedom of the movement well they did start out as a largely nonviolent popular uprising but we see what it turned into could it be that your concept of nonviolent uprisings is kind of over do you in this day and age i mean look at the arab world it's a bloody mess you get bloody mess is going you get people standing up and saying we want a change because. we don't like to be told we don't love you anymore you're going to be your senator go and they will use whatever means of controlling repression
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and killing and intimidation they can muster and when to not be surprised that so uprisings like that can't be nonviolent in principle they can if they go to many many more will die. divines is not a solution to people dying many married people couldn't run surprising since civil wars and international military intervention. in syria for example when the minute. they go into a civil war for an intervention in syria many many many more will die it's hard to predict the syrian opposition absolutely refuses to talk to the government don't you think it deepens the crisis adds to the violence what they're doing there in refusing to negotiate because negotiations are. the pressure government use to get the resistors not to resist but you could go
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with the ship if you have to go through it but that situation basically rules out nonviolent struggle that you were talking about it provokes while it is causing the regime. use what i don't see maybe. so people should be dying in the name of revolution is that what you're saying and you seem to have. something only a means. to the country and no i just see a bloody mess instead of the idea makes nonviolence surge that you are writing about in the book let me ask you this the us nato have set a precedent with the military intervention in libya could it do you think it creates a situation in syria where radical elements among the syrian opposition are more inclined to provoke these sorties in order to invite any intervention i think you can intervene military intervention is very dangerous and. maybe and
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some syrians have been doing that that's very unfortunate because that will not help that we're not being a democracy that will be a victory by the outside forces being assuming you get rid of the old regime then the new regime will be heavily influenced by the powers that intervene u.s. france or whoever it is so that they will have a major say in her government happens and that's the power the syrian people but you think should be is that what happened in libya yes in your opinion what's in it for the u.s. when it decides to meddle in foreign revolutions in foreign affairs you know that as well or better than i do you know. i'm not talking about u.s. policy why let's talk about it why opinion is u.s. government should not be intervening in military in the name of democracy because
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if it doesn't work in a concert brother what about nonmilitary means it seems they're using all kinds of means with their means of service should be used by the u.s. government but the people of that country to get rid. of the lot of people are getting this. says that washington is more into establishing friendly regimes rather than democracies if we take libya for example people there are afraid to speak up right now i mean we have reporters on the ground and they have to blur people's faces all the time because people are afraid of being seen the leadership there is about to introduce sharia law as the basis for their new laws which is pretty much incompatible with democratic values so libya pretty much looks like an example of how instead of a supposed transition to democracy people are getting pretty much the opposite so i think the b. is a different case because that's a case where the. changes in the.
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foreign forces are combined with two or more down the gadhafi regime that's an example of the view of the longer answer or on a slightly different note occupy wall street a very peaceful movement by all standards do you find them effective you know. you know. people. are annoyed with. the stream limited political control they have. the extreme this distribution of. some of the people making the expression of their opinions on. symbolism does not change the distribution of wealth in a country so you're saying no change is possible through that kind of nonviolent action yes or. change opinions maybe but this is not sufficient let's get back to
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the arab world people there seem to be getting more and more convinced that nonviolence doesn't get them anywhere either do you think change can be brought about only through revolution. can be both ways but what kind of change exactly i'm glad you brought that out because it seems the way it is now is people take to the streets with jane your own aspirations but those who take advantage of those uprisings end up stepping on people's rights as well as they are pretty assessors had change can be from dictatorship to new to. me many years ago. they. mean it's inevitable but no means the kind of action that you choose to use. determine what kind of results you get it's clear that the records extreme care
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and extreme good judgment and clear thinking and strong to prevent that from happening i see a contradiction between this idealist view of a nonviolent revolution and a reality you know someone said and i don't remember who it was but it goes any revolution is started by idealists carried out by fanatics and taken advantage of by bastards around the world. but not in a revolution somewhere different in your work can you outline the steps that would make a revolution happen but what i think was overlooked is life after a revolution and in most cases it is a set tale you to be concerned about. because in concluding pages. it warns about.
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it's sort of a solution to what to do that correctly but it warns about but that warning of yours is being largely ignored don't you think i believe that it's a problem that's why we've got more work going on thank you very much for the interview but it's been a pleasure. if they shoot something inappropriate for public they can easily be. casualties of war ok. i wish he would have never happened but it has. been a war a t.v. camera becomes an unnecessary what destroys their own safety all foreign nationals including journalists and inspectors should leave around. and it's clear for
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the stories that shapes this week tensions between iran and the u.s. intensified with terror on blaming the west for killing a nuclear scientist washington is threatening action if iran blocks a bottle over the top of pending sanctions. qatar becomes the first arab league members or call for troops to be sent into syria to tackle the ongoing bonnets that the proposal is being labeled hypocritical coming from want to keep preaching regime change elsewhere. also down save your sensibility to tackle its debt as nine nations get a credit rating cut in france from losing its top notch status downgrade prone to
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the drop in the market sunda call in germany faster reforms among some two kinds of numbers. those were our top stories from the week now the latest sports from richard. welcome to source of a really good to have you with us with the headlines. things but no things rules are a rush to return home and national rejects a consultancy role. brady's brilliant tom brady monster glossies new england maybe a have c. companies final forty nine is going to end up with the same. former champion madea shut up of a box over the open title and the world's top ranking in melbourne. grand slam of
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the year gets underway on monday. well so with football and russia's former national coach who is hitting the job of technical director of a mega rich russian premier league side. but the german has been heavily lengths with the southern russian club for months after he resigned as manager of turkey after he failed to take them to the euro two thousand and twelve finals however hitting really close and john was appointed to be under coach the club still wanted the sixty five year old's rights and technical director but the dutchman was quoted as saying words m g b n g offer contradictive this football philosophy i don't want to discount for new stars i am foster home grown talent that was denied access to clubs youth team. stronger football when manchester united move joint top of the english premier league after a free no victory against bolton wanderers goals from paul scholes danny welbeck and michael carrick secured and you know it is a big tree and put them in
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a level of points where the leaders manchester city everton and aston villa share the points there also wins for chelsea blackburn knowledge of the spurs miss for a chance to go joint top as well they were held in the walls but manager harry harry redknapp believes is still in the title race. may see too many nights he will be ready for us to win the league but we had a fantastic run in the second of that within the first of a decision that could happen but it's really good to go to do to achieve that but it's not impossible. housework to enjoy the winning start to his reign total spending part of such a man as we are leaders beat to spring one and soon to be goalkeeper only the short but the deflection of two to lose players to scoring on the second half of the above story doubling mystery's lead well taken efforts then is second goal. really seen. past and offend before clicking the ball into the corner toulouse got one by
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him but it wasn't enough find stop under a lot of young players g. men three points clear at the top of the table. or tom brady masterclasses but new england and of c. championship game beat of the patriots beat the denver broncos by forty five points to ten over talk coming into the game was about the broncos quarterback tim tebow however it was a free time super bowl champion that stole the show really connecting brilliantly with one ski and a stunning counterparts fourteen to nail up just shy of a two minute warning but in the end of the first half we move further ahead as brady branch without stunning sixty one yard pass the patriots went into being two or twenty eight to seven ahead. there was no let up in the second half of new england quarterback time n.f.l. preseason recall but for his six touchdown passes benoit a tight end aaron hernandez. meanwhile the san francisco forty nine ers in
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the n.f.c. championship game to edging out new orleans thirty six the perfect two it was the home side who took the early lead of the saints hit back to take believe themselves early in the action packed fourth quarter drew brees line and darren sproles rushed through yardstick of new orleans into a twenty four to twenty three lead before the niners were would hit back just thirty seconds later the visitors would want to go get him going from brees connecting with jimmy graham for a sixty six yard touchdown of the sentence signs of victory but it's with nine seconds left on the clock alex smith won the game the san francisco recruit in a school tonight for the team yard pass the vernon davis in the end zone to give the home side a fairly new thirty six separated to victory but the saints. were staying stateside in the me n.b.a. memphis held off a late surge by the new orleans hornets to their second straight win following
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a hundred eight to ninety nine victory grizzlies were cruising as they managed to open up a double digit lead in the second maga solved finally managing to get the ball in the basket and memphis would pull themselves ferber and friends after the break as much as seventeen points in front and struggling hornets side however new orleans weren't giving up and managed to cut the deficit to just two points in the fourth jason smith jumper making it a ninety three ninety one members i would go on a twelve all run which is still big sure he. really gave three point one hundred made to ninety nine percent of. elsewhere kobe bryant scored forty two points a crisp almost thirty three of his own split. one the battle of l.a. one hundred two to ninety four i wanted to run lead from an eighteen point deficit to people in the war's monday for its ninety one the rockets people trailblazers fund stretch band winning streak to say example beating the next fall there also
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wins for shallow for the delfi indiana chicago dallas and utah on saturday nights. says karen extended of elite at the top of the russian professional basketball league after a strong fourth quarter saw them claw round a mind she won the seventy nine victory sponsor x. and petersburg comes on to the top of hospice reports. surprisingly spartak have never wanted to discuss and where you turned their first day were old week three against the army man after defeating the country's basketball powerhouse at home in their last three encounters and it was a special match for him that he couldn't anchor who had started his career at the st petersburg side to discuss center and then of course teach missed the game due to us but alex on that account before and so we play at both ends of the court as the red and blues may take weeks start taking two digit lead in the opening quarter however the visitors got back into the game in the second and managed to equalise
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three minutes before the main intermission and they seesaw game continue to scour forge ahead but every time spartak levelled matters and even put their noses in front seventy two seventy one eight minutes before the final buzzer however thirty year old kirilenko organized the game ending it saw something several important shots as the army man landed eighteen points to split x. three in the final twelve minutes and this time the visitors couldn't find the strength to answer them so to go won by twelve points ninety one seventy nine and kirilenko whose nicknamed a k forty seven was key to that success with a game high twenty three ways. to reporters here who drinks a magic. for the final run i'm getting with the really matches in mind it was a good chance to show that we are in good shape and can boost ourselves even when we're tired we didn't give up and scored more than fifteen points in the last five
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minutes against a very strong side they're pretty good. players and i play hard to plato but i don't think we played our best basketball he did. start to get a little read about the enemy and see that the league got bigger once we got to rid of the victory keeps to go well on top of the russian basketball league while spartak sleep one place two feet and we mean we knew it at the red and blues arena because they bother about bertie. thomas now and with the first grand slam of the season the australian open just a day away from starting in melbourne former champion maria sharapova is hoping to repeat her two thousand and eight success as she spearheads a strong russian contingent the twenty four year old is suited for from the argentine is just don't go in or over trouble there is also in line to play countries for chronic and solve in the fourth round house because one of the all day in the quarter finals over all the fourteen russians in the women's are all trouble to say is history an open is a perfect place gauge your own form and dance with your opponents. and this is the
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start of the new year for us who are coming off a little better than seasonally training on the days of maybe we feel we needed to improve just gonna give this time to settle down and get away from. the tour life for a little bit and this is where the fans and i think it's not just for you or anyone for me to call to see how it comes out of it and where they are and how they're playing and where their level is. finally the organizers of russia's first ever winter olympics have promised and press the world by pulling off a regular torch relay ahead of the century games in two thousand and fourteen dmitri trenin schenker who's president of the games organizing committee to pass on the flame really of you know real youth winter olympics but got on the way in austria on friday the officials seemed happy with his prestigious task yet like his compadres to shabby limp experience in the run up to the senior games which will
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take place a black sea resort of sochi into years' time. it will be the longest ever in terms of the duration the one two three one hundred twenty three days relay which will cover of the territory of the biggest con three in the vault all nine time zones and we will cover a man to find person at all of the biggest territory of them three will be a big of them ik what the whole of the if it's more than forty five thousand kilometers but we will give the unique opportunity for all the people of russia to be in gauge one of out of sight most poll coming up in just about two hours time.
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the week's top stories here at our table this strain between iran and the u.s. reaches boiling point but tehran blaming the west for killing a nuclear scientist while washington threatens action of a bottle albeit it is blocked over sanctions. qatar becomes the first arab league member calling for troops to be sent into syria for the monarchy is accused of hypocrisy and it's a drive for regime change. also kazakhstan holds an early election to try and dine new to the ruling parties the poll takes place a month after the deadly clashes between police and oil workers.
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