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greatly damage internet freedom. and occupy activists descended on crime groups on the white house saying it's money that makes all decisions at the top of the event didn't live up to the hype of organizers who had hoped to draw tens of thousands of people. when it comes to big money and america's politics lobbyists are the people who know exactly how it works thanks to our t. talks to form a lobbyist jack explains why he thinks washington is corrupted to the core. i've. i'm sitting down with jack abraham off once the most powerful lobbyist in washington referred to as the man who bought washington he brought government officials in order to gain political support for his clients in two thousand and six he was convicted of raping office clients jack abramoff served three and
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a half years in prison guilty of conspiracy fraud and tax evasion mr abrams thank you very much for coming since your release from jail you've been very vocal about corruption in washington i read your book and i got a sense of your frustration about the fact that while you were sent to jail people involved in the same corrupt practices are sitting pretty in their offices on capitol hill well i'm a mom is frustrated that their people didn't go to jail or prison and prison is not fun and i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy but i guess what i'm frustrated about is that when they had my hearings and trials and when i was sent off there was a big exclamation and celebration here that they cleaned up washington but in fact they didn't clean up washington and so when i came out after rethinking my life and what i was involved in i decided that they want to clean up washington and i would
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help them figure out exactly how to do it during that senate hearing when you were publicly bashed by the senate is what were you thinking what were your thoughts as you faced the distinguished panel well i probably was thinking they were a little less distinguished than others were thinking i was reminded continually by every word out of their mental that they were among the many who her to support in some of the corruption that they were accusing me of when one of the senators was senator campbell was accusing me of corruption and wrecking the democratic system. i was thinking back to the breakfast i had with him a couple years before where i handed him checks from my client you know contributions and he said that they would never have a problem with his committee so i was thinking that basically about each of them i didn't know a lot of them personally because i had people working for me at a staff of about forty lobbyists and some of them knew the people who worked for me but. i found the whole thing to be hypocritical it was a kangaroo court and it was
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a show people say you were a tory it seems your ability to buy members of congress how did you do that i don't think i was necessarily accept on the margins much different than most of what goes on here but what happens here and what's unfortunate in which what i did in terms of pushing over the lines even of this activity is lobbyists and people want something from congress raise money for congressman give money to congressman in terms of political contributions by meals for them take them golfing take them on trips take them the sporting events and i probably did more of it than most did and i pushed over certain lines that are in the sand and broke the law but it says something that goes on far too often in washington you want to set and i found it very very interesting that that once you just a moment you offered a job to a congressional staffer you own them. right there was no greater control that
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people could have over congressional offices than to have the head of that office know that they're going to come in a few months to come work for a lobbying firm and from that minute all those people are focused on that lobbying from their clients and it's not just me i see it all over all over town it's not something i bedded it's something i noticed and it's something that i propose now to get rid of by banning people who work on capitol hill or members of congress from ever joining the lobbying industry or the influence industry in america what did your clients want by investing in politics by investing in you well mostly my clients one of the federal government not to. get all over the back and tax them and affect their businesses most the lobbying is defense keeping the government from doing things to industries and to companies and my jewels to help them avoid today going back today and i don't know i just presented a bunch of indian tribes and the way i got into it the first representation i had with the tribes was to stop the federal government from putting
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a thirty percent tax over the gross revenues of their gambling industries what was interesting about your case it was not just politicians who cheated but also you you cheated your clients namely those indian tribes with gambling interests i who paid millions of what i did was what i did was guilty to was some of the efforts that we did for the clients in their states worse to stop their competition from taking away their market that i would crash their competition yes yes we would attack their competition and we would do everything we could to keep them from invading the market of our client and that's normal in america fortunately for better or for worse that's not something we we made up what i have any regrets about doing that well is the end of the day i regret using the political process as a weapon against competitors because at the end of the day i don't think the government should be used like that i didn't have a problem with it then. and i should have it. and if we're talking about millions of dollars in contributions it's still peanuts for any big corporation it's
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a tiny fraction of what they make did you get a sense of how powerless average americans are when the interest so big guys like that are at stake on capitol hill well americans have a very tough time competing with these special interests special interests come in with a lot of money and you're right it's miniscule amounts of money compared to what they could do and some of them do a lot of money but it's still a small amount the problem is the average citizen here is not engaged politically and when they're able to bring in money and influence members of congress to vote on things that are not good for the country and not good for the general interest because somebody with a special interest is pushing on it that's where the problem starts so what i propose in my book and the effort that i've been gauged to since i've gotten out of prison is a way to separate money out of politics here and basically to say that if you're a lobbyist or you're somebody who's trying to get something from the government here you may not give
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a dollar politically of any kind and that that's one of the four things that i've proposed to clean up the system i think is very important because the end of the day political contributions if i give you something if you're a congressman and i give you a contribution and i want something from you that contribution may not be called a bribe but it is a broad at the end of the day how many members of congress are involved in corruption like i think bribery like that well i mean ultimately every member of congress who's taking a check a contribution from a lobbyist or from a company or from a union or anyone who needs or get something from washington whether it's conscious or not they're involved in it alternately you can't accept something from somebody without unless you're a well yes absolutely they all do and what i'm saying is you can't as a human being if somebody gives you something you're going to feel gratitude and even if you don't do with that person once or. there you say look i can't you can't
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buy my vote for two thousand dollars and most of them say that of course but the issue is if you do something nice for me in my heart i'm going to have to fuel a little bit better about you and what i'm saying is that is the moment of the problem if you're a public servant with all the crimes that you committed there's still a sense that you were used as a poster boy is kind of a scapegoat for the corrupt system that is very much alive and kicking i want to ask you about the supreme court decision from almost two years ago that allows on limited campaign contributions lobbyist must be really happy about that decision aren't they some are some are you i think the decision was for the most part very good the decision basically said that people shouldn't have the right to get money constricted i don't have a problem with that what i have a problem with his people who want something back giving money even a dollar that's the difference with with me now corporations the problem with corporations they do you are contradicting yourself you were just talking about how any contribution can be seen as bribery and now you're saying no being able to
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funnel as much money as you want these perfectly fine in today's politics no i don't think so i think people should have the right to get think i've been fairly consistent night and not to expect anything in return one on one on why should you expect something returned there are lot of people who give money in this country by the way because they like the ideology of the candidate they like the candidate themselves they're not going in there and asking for a grant or a tax break or a contract most people don't do that but it still contradicts what you were saying a few moments ago and that is with any form of contribution especially a big contribution an elected official finds themselves in a situation when they told their benefactors if somebody is worth a trillion dollars they live in some form in kansas and they never have any contact with any congressman ever and they see some congressman they love they want to give him a million dollars because they think they're fantastic and they never ask for a thing from that person i personally think that's all right and i'm very hard to track down who asked. possibly i talked i've talked to law enforcement about this
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about my ideas and once the laws are set in place i think that they are capable of figuring it out that decision only created a further complication in my view in the sense that it brought corporations them as a possible donor to political efforts and again don't you think it effectively legalize this corruption in washington why i think corruption is illegal in washington right now thousands of people took to the streets across america to say no to jack to say no to politics same washington do you think there is a chance that action like that that awareness like that can change anything i think the occupy wall street movement had behind it some good in saying problem is that they didn't organize themselves like the tea party movement did which was political tea party movement had a dramatic impact on the last election and probably will still in this election and i spoke to them totally occupy people quite a lot and i told them that until they get themselves organized politically they're
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not going to be meaningful because in america street protests don't really mean people don't like street protests in america first of all the destructive there's banda wising there's unsanitary things that go on and most americans are repelled by that but what most americans will respect is political activism an organization on the left or on the right now i think that there is anger out there and you don't have a money to hire a lot of you. can you know they are biting i might not be a bad thing but. you know american people don't need lobbyists they need to organize themselves i think that in america getting it to first of all class and b. i think is very dangerous we've seen that every great. totalitarians movement in certainly in the twentieth century started with class and instead of class and be able to focus themselves not on those who succeed but those who succeed in the sense of using the government and using the state to make their lives easier to make more money and there are plenty of those like you. like like i did like i help
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my clients do and like every lobbyist helps certain ones do unfortunately had it not been for the jail time would you have been just as we panting as you are now if i hadn't had the fall if i hadn't had been destroyed i would love to sit here and tell you i would have all my own come to how bad this was and you know i should have been doing what i should have been valving that kind of lobbying but i'm not going to lie to you i would never thought that i thought i was doing the right thing that's the sad part of it all for me so as i look back i would have stopped i would have still been doing it instead of sitting here with you i'd be sitting on capitol hill negotiating something for one of my clients it took my getting killed for me to come to the realization that i should have been there what do you plan to do. in the process of. possibly want to open the t.v. show thank you.
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you. lose lose. this is flawed. and sitting on the edge of. the present. reality it's nothingness.
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but if you enter. the mystery of supernatural. shame siberia. buffer says no to violence or foreign military intervention in syria and is ready to host talks between. human and foreign minister lavrov sanctions on iran iran is ready to hold six party talks over its nuclear program. darkest online encyclopedia reading shuts up shop in protest over u.s. and build it says. internet. freedom. and occupy activists descend on congress and the white house saying it's now money that makes all the decisions at the top be invented didn't live up to the hype of organizers hope to draw tens of
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thousands of people. to retreat now joins us with a sports. you know the fourth quarter not to welcome to the program thanks for joining us this hour the headlines. doing well defending champion came close to the only one game to make it into the third round of. them all the season. gets a walkover into the next round well to prove on court that it is to play in round three. and on a winning streak. of home ice to register consecutively three in the child. had to start with tennis where roger federer has advanced into the third round of the australian open the world number three didn't actually play in the second round
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as his opponent back of germany it withdrew from the tournament with an injury while thomas birch of the czech republic played only three sets to make it into the next round seventh seed check out class. of thirty to ease in the in the second set through a side track to titrate. rafael nadal meanwhile needed only three sets to go to the next round the second seed spaniard sent germany's tommy haas packing six four six three six four. looking for work. on much of the quarter also qualified for round three as the defeated loss. of the . game but seventy four for france the eleventh he'd belgian made different tests to start taking the open six of the defending
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champ and only one game in the second so. that on the way to the bank of the bank a waiter there. thanks to the mean time world number one and top seed caroline was not skinny so all. of georgia joined to spend the day had no problems taking six was the second thanks he wanted to go for. thanks. was too strong follow cole a very. chinese dropped game. thank you sixty six. thousand for the last year it's been able to deliver a good. turn the russian female player involved in the action on the third day of the tournament brought together successfully made it into the next
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round should be to play on tape in straight sets six two six one. world number one novel drop which raced into the second round at the expense of paolo raincy this needing just an hour and a half phone call to kill off the talents slightly resistance sixty two sixty six love how it finished up so much i would rather thank. god for the thinking the crucial thing that changed from from me winning two thousand and eight and last year was that. i get on to the court. believing in my abilities more denied than i did back then and playing more consistent playing well in a consistent level throughout the whole year rather than two thousand and eight. in the women's game or a shopper who is seeking her second australian open crown easily made it into this
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second round the two thousand and eight champion was in a no nonsense mood against argentina. galloping to the open in the south before winning a long rally for the match six twelve six one the final score there delighted to be off the mark. i had a pretty tough first round of funding coming into my first a man of the year. for some speed last time and playing at a major. you can definitely play some really good tennis and began just mentally preparing for the. getting ready to sing here so. i think a pretty good aggressive. you know the news russia has claimed yet another gold medal at the first winter year for the games in austria on the one the women's cross-country five kilometer crossing the russian completed the distance in the
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tunnel fourteen minutes and eighteen seconds to diminish. our lives trying to record the hundred we're told. the seconds to two minutes seconds. and then soaking the kontinental hockey league back on the winning ways the armaments russian after him and four one on home ice to claim their fourth consecutive victory and boost the chances for a playoff sport robert hodierne out has more. the stakes are high cisco are gearing up to secure a playoff spot in the western conference next to him and trying hard to build out in the east their first players this season was an act to work with the federal canvas to be stronger than three two tuesday night in the russian capital so the muscovites fired back in style just four minutes into the game but they're just lower point is going to give their only man belief one nil the high side kept on
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building up pressure here is these partially driven through the visitors the fans i lifted him excel at their chances in the country tax keeping the host goalie the rest is love stana busy showing off his skills. however it was just scared to score again sedition of question in seconds after the first intermission to make it to moon stanek at shunning seeing one shot after another while his team mates kept on scoring in putting one man down nicholas pearson breaking away and netting still here three nil. and when it came to the army men in the poll play the trumpet to run the show that. ripped up the scoring for nil eight minutes from the final whistle the visitors didn't give up the fight
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and managed to score a consolation goal but after the outcome it's always easier when you see the boys are playing well and now working hard and. want to work hard for them and when they scoring it's always also called for it is not just a damn thirty tonight we can win this game because the boys can score and. the lock is on our side so. it's always easier when you're scoring. cleaned the pools. thursday. did you turn the girl. worth. arky. staying with a k chel as it was a busy tuesday in the league care of the result the rest of the results based in conference leaders trying to beat the test center this victory won in. time to be left way into the walk carefree other games finish the shoot out of the
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middle east and rode their luck that. moment of football now where espanyol has made a remarkable comeback from two girls down to miranda in the first leg of their copa del rey quarter final the third. had already knocked out of the rail and racing suntanned the road to the last eight and the course of the event showed that they were ready to continue back primarily the size from a lead and in front to silence the crowd but especially all right only how many soon proved performed a miraculous five back eighty fifth to eighty knots minutes the house netted three girls to find themselves where is this drama. called the decider for me to say i. in the meantime barcelona prepared to take on the eternal rivals from madrid within the same stage of the spanish cup pep guardiola gave his credit to the
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opponents and doesn't stick to the outcome of the first classic of the season when passing on a full deserved their three one victory. some computers i guess that will but she'll be other champions of this competition and the leaders of the spanish league we also have the best record in the champions league group c. all this time as ever we're playing against the strongest royal we can ever face in any competition we should be ourselves in play the best possible game turn to schoolgirls with our thoughts on the second leg in the. final in the english premier league chelsea have paid almost eleven million dollars for bolton wanderers defendant gary cole the twenty six year old england international braden made seven appearances for the national team wants to continue his progress with the blues brought to stage a ball and where it was nice to move on but as a wise move on. sam graves i moved on. i moved on for forward step in my career so that's what i'm pretty good now i've got to
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a level that i don't need to keep improving or not with. ok that's all the sports news for the moment more into eyes tonhalle an r.t. whether his next so.
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breaking the syrian deadlock through all kinds calling for no military action against iran russia's top diplomat fields tough questions on the country's foreign policies over the past twelve months. and largest online encyclopedia temporarily shuts up shop in protest over u.s. bill it says could statement damage internet freedom. but i don't like about. occupy activists descend on congress and the white house saying it's now money that makes all the decisions at the top. a number.

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