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in protest over proposed u.s. anti-piracy legislation critics fear the bill could lead to what they call genuine pirates that is major media outlets taking over the web. and occupy activists have descended on congress and the white house saying it's now money that makes all the decisions at the top of the event didn't live up to the hype of organizers who had hoped to draw tens of thousands of people. now when it comes to big money in america's politics lobbyist are the people who know exactly how it works next hour to talk to former lobbyist jack abramoff who explains why he thinks washington is corrupted to the core. i've. i'm sitting down with jack abraham off once the most powerful lobbyist in washington referred to as the man who bought washington he brought government officials in order to gain
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political support for his clients in two thousand and six he was convicted of ripping off his clients jack abramoff served three and a half years in prison guilty of conspiracy fraud and tax evasion mr abrams thank you very much for coming since your release from jail you've been very vocal about corruption in washington i read your book and i got a sense of your frustration about the fact that while you were sent to jail people involved in the same corrupt practices are sitting pretty in their offices on capitol hill well i'm a mom is frustrated that their people didn't go to jail or prison and prison is not fun and i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy but i guess what i'm frustrated about is that when they had my hearings and trials and when i was sent off there was a big exclamation and celebration here that they cleaned up washington but in fact they didn't clean up washington and so when i came out you have to rethinking my
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life and what i was involved in i decided that they want to clean up washington and i would help them figure out exactly how to do it during that senate hearing when you were publicly bashed by the senate is what were you thinking what were your thoughts as you faced the distinguished panel well i probably was thinking they were a little less distinguished than others were thinking i was reminded continually by every word of their mental that they were among the many who her to support in some of the corruption that they were accusing me of when one of the senators a senator campbell was accusing me of corruption and wrecking the democratic system . i was thinking back to the breakfast i had with him a couple years before where i handed him checks for my client contributions and he said that they would never have a problem with his committee so i was thinking that basically about each of them i didn't know a lot of them personally because i had people working for me at
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a staff of about forty lobbyists and some of them knew the people who worked for me but. i found the whole thing to be hypocritical it was a kangaroo court and it was a show people say you were a tory it seems your ability to buy members of congress how did you do that i don't think i was necessarily accept on the margins much different than most of what goes on here but what happens here and what's unfortunate in which what i did in terms of pushing over the lines even of this activity is lobbyists and people want something from congress raise money for congressman give money to congressman in terms of political contributions by meals for them take them golfing take them on trips take them the sporting events and i probably did more of it than most did and i pushed over certain lines that are in the sand and broke the law but it says something that goes on far too often in washington you want to set and i found it very very interesting that that once you just a moment you offered a job to
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a congressional staffer and you own them. right there was no greater control that people could have over congressional offices than to have the head of that office know that they're going to come in a few months to come work for a lobbying firm and from that minute on those people are focused on that lobbying from their clients and it's not just me i see it all over us all over tell me it's not something i bet it it's something i noticed and something that i propose now to get rid of by banning people who work on capitol hill or are members of congress from ever joining the lobbying industry or the influence industry in america what did your clients want by investing in politics by investing in you well mostly my clients one of the federal government not to. get all over the back and tax them in fact their businesses most the lobbying is deep that's keeping the government from doing things to industries and to companies and in my interest to help them avoid to the exact nature of it when i do have presented in
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a bunch of indian tribes and the way i got into it the first representation i had with the tribes was to stop the federal government from putting a thirty percent tax over the gross revenues of their gambling industries what was interesting about your case it was not just politicians who cheated but also you you cheated your clients namely those indian tribes with gambling interests who paid you mainly and so what i did was what i did was where we're about to pled guilty to was some of the efforts that we did for the clients in their states worst to stop their competition from taking away their markets that would crash their competition and yes yes we would attack their competition and we would do everything we could to keep them from invading the market of our client and that's normal in america fortunately for better or for worse that's not something we we made up what i have any regrets about doing that well at the end of the day i regret using the political process as a weapon against competitors because at the end of the day i don't think the government should be used like that i didn't have
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a problem with it then. and i showed it. and if we're talking about millions of dollars in contributions it's still peanuts for any big corporation it's a tiny fraction of what they make do you get a sense of how powerless average americans are when the interest so big guys like that are at stake on capitol hill well americans have a very tough time competing with these special interests special interests come in with a lot of money and you're right it's miniscule amounts of money compared to what they could do and some of them do a lot of money but it's still a small amount the problem is the average citizen here is not engaged politically and when they're able to bring in money and influence members of congress to vote on things that are not good for the country and not good for the general interest because somebody with a special interest is pushing on it that's where the problem starts so what i propose in my book and the efforts that i've been engaged in a sense got out of prison is
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a way to separate money out of politics here and basically to say that if you're a lobbyist or you're somebody who's trying to get something from the government here you may not give a dollar politically of any kind and that that's one of the poor things that i've proposed to clean up the system i think is very important because the end of the day political contributions if i give you something if you're a congressman and i give you a contribution and i want something from you that contribution may not be cold a bribe but it is a broad at the end of the day how many members of congress are involved in corruption like that in bribery like that well i mean ultimately every member of congress is taking a check a contribution from a lobbyist or from a company or from a union or anyone who needs or get something from washington whether it's conscious or not they're involved in it alternately you can't accept something from somebody without unless you're a well yes absolutely they all do and what i'm saying is you can't as
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a human being if somebody gives you something you're going to feel gratitude and even if you don't do with that person once or. there you say look i can't you can't buy my vote for two thousand dollars and most of them say that of course but the issue is if you do something nice for me in my heart i'm going to have to feel little bit better about you and what i'm saying is that is the moment of the problem if you're a public servant with all the crimes that you committed there's still a sense that you were used as a poster boy a kind of a scapegoat for the corrupt system that is very much alive and kicking i want to ask you about the supreme court decision from almost two years ago that allows on limited campaign contributions lobbyist must be really happy about that decision aren't they some are some are and i think the decision was for the most part very good the decision basically said that people shouldn't have the right to get money constricted i don't have a problem with that what i have a problem with his people who want something back giving money even a dollar that's the difference with with me now corporations the problem with corporations they do you are contradicting yourself you were just talking about how
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any contribution can be seen as bribery and now you're saying no being able to funnel as much money as you want these perfectly fine in today's politics no i don't think so i think people should have the right to get think i've been fairly his his night and not to expect anything in return one on one and why should you expect something returned there are lot of people who give money in this country by the way because they like the ideology of the candidate they like the candidate themselves they're not going in there and asking for a grant or a tax break or a contract most people don't do that but it still contradicts what you were saying a few moments ago and that is with any form of contribution especially a big contribution an elected official finds themselves in a situation when they owe their benefactors if somebody is worth a trillion dollars they live in some form in kansas and they never have any contact with any congressman ever and they see some congressman they love they want to give him a million dollars because that think they're fantastic and they never ask for a thing from the person i personally think that's all right and i'm very hard to
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track down who asked. possibly i talked i've talked to law enforcement about this about my ideas and once the laws are set in place i think that they are capable of figuring it out that decision only created a further complication in my view in the sense that it brought corporations them as a possible donor to political efforts and again don't you think it effectively legalize this corruption in washington why i think corruption is legal in washington right now thousands of people took to the streets across america to say no to jack paper amounts to saying no to politics saying washington do you think there is a chance that action like that that awareness like that can change anything i think the occupy wall street movement had behind it some good in saying problem is that they didn't organize themselves like the tea party movement did which was political tea party movement had a dramatic impact on the last election and probably will still in this election and
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i spoke them to the occupy people quite a lot and i told them that until they get themselves organized politically they're not going to be meaningful because in america street protests don't really mean people don't like street protests in america first of all the destructive there's vandalizing there's unsanitary things that go on and most americans in repelled by that but what most americans will respect is political activism an organization on the left or on the right now i think that there is anger out there and you don't have a money to hire a lot of you. are inviting i might not be a bad thing but. you know american people don't need lobby is they need to organize themselves i think that in america getting it to first of all class and b. i think is very dangerous we've seen that every great. totalitarian movement in certainly in the twentieth century started with class and instead of class and be able to focus themselves not on those who succeed but those who succeed in the sense of using the government and using the state to make their lives easier to
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make more money and there are plenty of those like you know. like like i did like i helped my clients do and like every lobbyist help certain lines do unfortunately had it not been for the jail time would you have been just as we panting as you are now if i hadn't had the fall if i hadn't had been destroyed i would love to sit here and tell you i would have all my own come to how bad this was and you know i should have been doing what i should have been valving that kind of loving but i'm not going to lie to you i would never thought that i thought i was doing the right thing that's the sad part of it all for me so as i look back i would have stopped i would have still been doing it instead of sitting here with you i'd be sitting on capitol hill negotiating something for one of my clients it took my getting killed for me to come to the realization that i should have been there what do you plan to do. in the process of. possibly want to open the t.v. show thank you.
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when clinton comfortable question leads to a grave accusation the world who is more is you know following. the president who isn't supposed to hide anything. or it's someone asking him why do you make a secret of it when the powers to be suppress the voice of those who think different. when you get experiencing very serious problems off of the saakashvili government came to power in two thousand and three but in the book that was when the problems began piling up. interviews were now off limits to our journalists they were often beason up and humiliated in public when the attempt to protect property puts life in real danger that we have been deprived of the only means of earning a living i have gone to the original sit all the papers yes i've got them legalized
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the ownership rights on the basis of companies freedom becomes just a stage prop. party's top stories russell says no to violent or foreign military intervention in syria and is ready to host talks between sides in the conflict talking at a q. and a in moscow foreign minister love brawled also criticized sanctions on iran saying terror on is ready to hold six party talks over its nuclear program. the largest online encyclopedia wikipedia temporarily stop stop stop in protest over proposed u.s. and piracy legislation critics fear the bill could lead to what they call genuine pirates that is major media outlets taking over the web. and occupy
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activists have descended on congress and the white house saying it's now money that makes all the decisions up the top but the event didn't live up to the hype morgan eyes or through had hoped to draw tens of thousands of sports is up next year an artsy with dimitri. oh the sports are not the world come to the program and in this world. doing well defending champion drops only one game to make it into the third round of the grand slam of the season. gets a walkover into the next round. to prove on court that he deserves to play in round three. and on a winning streak so it's garbage have to him make on home ice to register for
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victory in the cage. so let's start with tennis where roger federer has advanced into the third round of the australian open the world number three didn't actually play in the second round as his opponent back of germany withdrew from the tournament with an injury well thomas bowditch of the czech republic played only three sets to make it into the next round the seventh seed check out class all of us of belgium easily won the first second. only in the decider which the czech took on a tiebreaker. down meanwhile needed only three sets to go to the next round the second seed planted sand germany's packing six four six three six four down me to look at the market. juan martin del potro also qualified for round three as the other time defeated
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blast of slovenia. in the women's game came close to swept aside stephanie for it's a france the eleventh seed belgian made a fantastic start taking the open a six lane. of the defending champ dropped only one game in the second set on the way to. go with the bucket away to there. in the me time world number one and top seed so off. of georgia to join the third round this danger had no problems in the first set taking it six one the second. break was not wanted to go through. it was too strong for local olivero the chinese dropped four games throughout the match to claim a six two six two win over a further opponent next up for the last year's finalists and
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a moment in interest of spain. where their russian female play involved in the action of the third day of the tournament successfully made it into the next round should be a reality in straight sets six two six one. and who is seeking second australian open crown easily made it into the next round two thousand and eight champion was in a no nonsense mood against the duke of argentina galloping to the opening set before winning a long rally for the match sixty six one the final score there should up work out to be off the mark. i. pretty tough first chinatown and coming into my first a man of the year. speed me last time and playing at a major. yes you can definitely play some really good tennis and the guys just
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mentally prepare for the. skating running in other parts so. i think a pretty good aggressive. in other news russia has claimed yet another gold medal at the first to enter youth olympic games in austria and says he should over won the women's cross country five kilometer classic that russian completed the distance in a time of fourteen minutes and eighteen seconds of in is. finished only thirty seconds behind the winner and patrick. to go on to a time of fifteen minutes and one second. and i saw in the kontinental hockey league scar are back on winning ways that are meant threshing have to him it for one and home ice to claim their fourth consecutive victory and boost their chances for a playoff sport robert for the none more. the stakes are high gearing
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up to secure a playoff spot in the western conference next to him ik trying hard to bellow out in the east their first clear as the season was an extra work with the petrochem is proving to be stronger than three two tuesday night in the russian capital so the muscovites fired back in style just four minutes into the game but they're just lower point he's gone to give their only man belief one nil the home side kept on building up pressure here is denise parchin driven through the visitors the fans i lifted him exhaust their chances on counter-attacks keeping the host goalie the rest is love stana busy showing off his skills. however it was sisko who scored again sedition of question in seconds after the first intermission to make it to nil stanek at shining saying one shot after
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another while his team mates kept on scoring in playing one man down nicolas pearson breaking away and netting still here three nil. and when it came to the army men in a power play the trumpet to run the show that alexei yashin ripped of the scoring for nil eight minutes from the final whistle the visitors didn't give up the fight and managed to score a consolation goal but after the outcome it's always easier when you see the boys are playing well and now working hard. to work hard for them and when they scoring it's always gives also confidence not just a damn thing tonight we can win this game because the boys can score and. the lock is on our side so. it's always easier when you're doing scornfully. clean the
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fourth consecutive. thursday. stuff which i did to try and get. worse. staying with the case as it was a busy tuesday in the league care of the rest of the results eastern conference to destructive be the best in the west scarf since it is three one inch eleven so i will if needed overtime to be for the way in slovakia three other games finished initiative out of them beliefs and bars rode their luck that. football now where espanyol has made a remarkable comeback from two girls down to miranda in the first leg of their copa del rey quarter final the third had already knocked out over the rail and racing santander on the road to the last eight and the course of the event showed that they were ready to continue battering primera liga side goals from roy and public
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in front silenced the home crowd but. only many soon proved performed reckless fired back from eighty five to. eighty nine minutes the highs netted for a goals to find themselves when it is in this drama. it's called the decider for the cancer. i in the meantime barcelona prepare to take on their eternal rivals for all madrid within this same stage of the spanish cup pep guardiola gave his credit to their parents and doesn't stick to the outcome of the first classic of the season when bustle on a fully deserved their three one victory. some computers i guess that will produce you via the champion so this can petition and the leaders or the spanish league deals you know the best record in the chairman's league groups each of this time as we're playing against the strongest royal we can ever fleece in any competition we should be our selves in play the best possible game turn to schoolgirls with our
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thoughts on the second leg. staying with football in the english premier league chelsea have paid almost eleven million dollars for bolton wanderers defender gary cahill they twenty six year old international made seven appearances for the national team wants to continue his progress with the blues but i got to a stage a ball and where it was nice to move on move on. moved on in good lie i moved on for a forward step in my career so i just want to improve again now i've got to a level that i need to keep improving. and finally basketball under magic have claimed ninety six eighty nine win over the charlotte buckets in the end the victory became their tanf in twelve games benefited from magic foul trouble in the opening twelve minutes to take a seven point lead in the second quarter the game got close and went into time
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with a fifty four to seven advantage how the same top scored for the visitors with twenty two points along the leader's contribution appeared to be stronger with white howard not showing up twenty five points and making seventeen rebounds german arson and to caldwell adding seventeen and fifteen points respectively holland it's the final quarter and celebrated the title victory. ok that's all from me for today you know and on a a will behave in two hours time with all the latest from the sporting world goodbye . sure is that so much given to you to be finishing her mind to markland fronting turnaround on a wider range of issues the standoff between iran and western powers has fractionate out is the west preparing for
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news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corporations rule today. wealthy british style it's time to go to the front.
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of the. market. come to find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to name two cars a report on our. breaking the syrian deadlock through dialogue and calling for no military action against iran no process top diplomat fields tough questions on the country's foreign policies over the past twelve months. the largest online encyclopedia temporarily shut up shop in protest over u.s. anti-piracy bills it says could creatively damage internet freedom. occupy activists descend on congress and the white house saying it's now money that makes all the decisions.

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