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as american and two priors two plants that are seen as a threat to internet freedom. and occupy anti greed activists mark for months and their movement by taking on the white house and capitol hill thousands were expected to take part but the event failed to draw in the numbers organizers wanted . but when it comes to big money and america's politics lobbyists are the people who know exactly how it works jack used to be one and he now tells us why he thinks washington is corrupt to the core. i'm sitting down with jack a bomb off once the most powerful lobbyist in washington referred to as the man who bought washington he bribed government officials in order to gain political support for his clients in two thousand and six he was convicted of ripping off his clients jack avram all served three and a half years in prison guilty of conspiracy fraud and tax evasion mr avery mouth
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thank you very much for coming since your release from jail you've been very vocal about corruption in washington i read your book and i got a sense of your frustration about the fact that while you were sent to jail people involved in the same corrupt practices are sitting pretty in their offices on capitol hill well i'm i'm not as frustrated that there are people doing go to jail or prison prisons not fun and i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy but i guess what i'm frustrated about is that when they had my hearings and trials and when i was sent off there was a big exclamation and celebration here that they cleaned up washington but in fact they didn't clean up washington and so when i came out after rethinking my life and what i was involved in i decided that if they want to clean up washington that i would help them figure out exactly how to do it during that senate hearing when you
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were publicly bashed by the senate is what were you thinking or you saw says you faced the distinguished panel well i probably was thinking they were a little less distinguished than others were thinking i was reminded continually by every word out of there mel that they were among the many who participated in some of the corruption that they were accusing me of when one of the senators a senator campbell was accusing me of her option on me wrecking the democratic system i was thinking back to the breakfasts i had with him a couple years before where i handed him a check for my clients his country. ition za who said that they would never have a problem with his committee so i was thinking that basically about each of them i didn't know a lot of them personally because i had people working for me at a staff of about forty lobbyists and some of them knew the people who worked for me but. i found the whole thing to be hypocritical it was a kangaroo court and it was a show people say you were in
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a tory it seems your ability to buy members of congress how did you do that i don't think i was necessarily accept on the margins much different than most of what goes on here but what happens here and what's unfortunate in which what i did in terms of pushing over the lines even of this activity is lobbyists and people want something from congress raise money for congressmen give money to congressman in terms of political contributions by meals for them take them golfing take them on trips take them the sporting events and i probably did more of it than most did and i pushed over certain lines that are in the sand and broke the law but it says something that goes on far too often in washington you want to set and i found it very very interesting that that once you just a moment you offered a job to a congressional staffer and you owned i'm right there was no greater control that people could have over congressional offices than to have the head of that office know that they're going to come in a few months to come work for
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a lobbying firm and from that minute on those people are focused on that lobbying from their clients and it's not just me i saw all over town it's not something i bet it it's something i noticed and something that i propose now to get rid of by banning people who work on capitol hill or members of congress from ever joining the lobbying industry or the influence industry in america what did your clients want by investing in politics by investing in you well mostly my clients one of the federal government not to. get all over the back and tax them and affect their businesses most the lobbying is defense keeping the government from doing things to . histories into companies and likely going to help them avoid to behave like that when i got presented in a bunch of indian tribes and the way i got into it the first representation i had with the tribes was to stop the federal government from putting a thirty percent tax over the gross revenues of their gambling industry what was interesting about your case it was not just politicians who cheated but also you
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cheated your clients namely those indian tribes with gambling interests who paid them aliens and what i did was what i did was where were what i pled guilty to was some of the efforts that we did for the clients in their states worse to stop their competition from taking away their markets they would crash their competition yes we would attack their competition and we would do everything we could to keep them from invading the market of our client and that's normal in america fortunately for better or for worse that's not something we we made up we're going to have any regrets about doing that well at the end of the day i regret using the political process as a weapon against competitors because at the end of the day i don't think the government should be used like that i didn't have a problem with that and i shouldn't even if we're talking about millions of dollars in contributions it's still peanuts for any big corporation it's a tiny fraction of what they make did you get a sense of how powerless average americans are when the interest so big
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guys like that are at stake on capitol hill well americans have a very tough time competing with these special interests special interests come in with a lot of money and you're right it's miniscule amounts of money compared to what they could do and some of them do a lot of money but it's still a small amount of the problems the average citizen is not engaged politically and when they're able to bring in money and influence members of congress to vote on things that are not good for the country and not good for the general interest because somebody with special interests is pushing on it that's where the problem starts so what i propose in my book and the effort that i've been gave pinsent side . prison is a way to separate money out of politics here and basically to say that if you're a lobbyist or you're somebody who's trying to get something from the government here you may not give a dollar politically of any kind and that's one of the four things that i've proposed to clean up the system i think is very important because the end of the day political contributions if i give you something if you're
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a congressman and i give you a contribution and i want something from you that contribution may not be called a bribe but it is a bribe at the end of the day how many members of congress are involved in an corruption like that in bribery like that well i mean ultimately every member of congress who's taking a check a contribution from a lobbyist or from a company or from a union or anyone who needs or get something from washington whether it's conscious or not they're involved in it ultimately you can't accept something from somebody without unless you're a very well do so yes absolutely they all do and what i'm saying is you can't as a human being if somebody gives you something you're going to feel gratitude and even if you don't do with that person once right there and you say look you can't buy my vote for two thousand dollars and most of them say that of course but the issue is if you do something nice for me in my heart i'm going to have to feel a little bit better about you and what i'm saying is that is the moment of the
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problem if you're a public servant with all of the crimes that you committed there's still a sense that you were used as a poster boy is kind of a scapegoat for the corrupt system that is very much alive and kicking i want to ask you about the supreme court decision from almost two years ago that allows on limited campaign contributions lobbyist must be really happy about that decision aren't they some are some are i think the decision was for the most part very good the decision basically said that people shouldn't have the right to get money constricted i don't have a problem with that what i have a problem with is people who want something back giving money even a dollar that's the difference with with me now corporations the. with corporations the reason why are contradicting yourself you were just talking about how any contribution can be seen as bribery and now you're saying no being able to funnel as much money as you want these perfectly fine in today's politics no i don't think so i think people should have the right to get big i've been fairly consistent and not to expect anything in return one on one why should you expect something
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returned there are lot of people who give money in this country by the way because they like the ideology of the candidate they like the candidate themselves they're not going in there and asking for a grant or a tax break or or a contract most people don't do that but it still contradicts what you were saying a few moments ago and that is with any form of contribution especially a big contribution an elected official finds themselves in a situation when they told their benefactors if somebody is worth a trillion dollars they live in some form in kansas and they never have any contact with any cars never and they see some congressman they love they want to give him a million dollars because i think they're fantastic and they never ask for a thing from that person i personally think that's all right thank you very hard to track down you ask possibly i've talked i've talked to law enforcement about this about my ideas and once the laws are set in place i think that they are capable of figuring it out that decision only created a further complication in my view in the sense that it brought corporations them as
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a possible donor to political efforts and again don't you think it effectively legalize this corruption in washington i think corruption is legal in washington right now thousands of people took to the streets across america to say no to jack paper amounts to saying no to corrupt politics same washington do you think there is a chance that action like that that awareness like that can change anything i think the occupy wall street movement had behind it some good insight into companies that they didn't organize themselves like the tea party movement did which was political tea party movement or magic in past homeland she went probably where it's going there's no. and i spoke of them to the occupy people quite a lot and told them that until they get themselves organized politically they're not going to be meaningful because in america the protests don't really mean that people don't like the purpose of america first of all the destructive there's vandalising there's unsanitary things that go on and most americans in repelled by
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that what most americans will respect is political activism an organization on the left or on the right now i think that there is anger out there and you don't have a money to hire a lot of youth. well that might not be a bad thing but. you know american people don't need lobby is they need to organize themselves i think that in america getting into first of all class and b. i think is very dangerous we've seen that every great. totalitarians movement in certainly in the twentieth century started with class and instead of class and be able to focus themselves not on those who succeed but those who choose to succeed in the sense of using the government and using the state to make their lives easier to make more money and there are plenty of those like you that like like i did like i helped my clients do and like every lobbyist helps their clients do unfortunately had it not being for the jail time would you have been just as we painting as you are now if i hadn't had the fall if i hadn't had been destroyed i would love to sit
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here and tell you i would have all my own come to how bad this was and you know i should have been doing it i should have been involved in that kind of lobbying but i'm not going to lie to you i would never thought that i thought i was doing the right thing that's the sad part of it all for me so as i look back i would have stopped i would have still been doing it instead of sitting here with you i'd be sitting on capitol hill negotiating something for one of my clients it took my getting killed for me to come to the realisation that a should have been there what do you plan to do. in the process of. possibly one amp with a t.v. show thank you. the book. wealthy british scientists on the same spot on the front of the.
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months of their movement by taking on the white house and capitol hill thousands were expected to take part but the event failed to draw in the numbers. or expecting. the circular unit of the sportscast and the army men just keep marching on in the k h l i c exactly right at the end of last year and he said they just couldn't buy a win. they can't stop winning more on that plus the rest of the way he's the afternoon sport just a sec. have you with us a warm welcome plenty had this hour including big stories and great. big guns move on roger federer receives a walkover while rafael nadal has to prove on court that he deserves to be in the wrong three. nice on the ice three woeful end to
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twenty eleven. continue to do just about everything right this year registering their fourth straight key a child. then there were four we looked back at her new england baltimore sun francisco on the new york giants moved to berlin one game. forty six. but we begin in where it was left to want to lesser lights to fly the flag for the country on a wet and stay qualifier. successfully navigating her way into the third round of melbourne park the grand slam debbie tenth rushing alberta brianne t. in straight sets six two six want to score her second up said the major but she can certainly paying her dues having been on the tour for eleven years to date or i were. in the uk he is also safe in to run three the day the first set against. really before her georgian opponent had a fight of things second wozniacki will eventually three. six one seven six final
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score. less. elsewhere in the pic all the action defending champion comply sure swept aside stephanie for its all fronts the eleventh seeded belgian not messing around from the off taking the opener six games to love clusters would drop just the one game in the second set cruising in toronto hunter with down the one to later in the week on the six six one. ok it up brings us over to the men's side of the draw were old rivals rafael nadal and roger federer remain on track to meet in the semifinals the spite only one of them needing to play to make the third stage we're number two nidal taking on tommy haas on the day the spaniard looking like his old dominant self following a disappointing into last year the doll along with you just did that rocket in tow bossing the germans six four six three six four lucas luckily all the back you up
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next for this. was a positive match but not. very strong demanding rhythm with a blow for hours and hours. wasn't. thinking that all that matters. roger federer will be well rested for his classroom evil carlo which on thursday the swiss not even having to hit the court today after opponent on the back pulled out of their clash with a bad back marty fish has become the highest ranked casualty to date the see that american going down to a one hundred fall and john isner he is no stranger to martin rallies haven't taken part in the longest ever tennis match in history in twenty ten his clash with david nalbandian in round two today also going to five sets with the american edging the argentinian ten eight in the decider. so you can moscow have well and truly find their groove in the kontinental hockey league the army men thrashing next to him
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for one on home ice to claim a fourth consecutive victory their chances of a playoff spot robert fripp down in has more. the stakes are high cisco are gearing up to secure a playoff spot in the western conference need to him in trying hard to belly out in the east their first players this season was in the to work with the better canvas proved to be stronger than three two tuesday night in the russian capital so the muscovites fired back in style just four minutes into the game that they're just lost one is going to give their only man belief one nil but he said get them building up pressure here is these partial you're going through the visitors the fans i need to him excel at their chances in country tax keeping the host goalie the rest is love stana busy shown off his skills.
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however it was just scuffle score again said additional gov question in seconds after the first intermission to make it to move stanek it shining saying one shot after another while his team mates kept on scoring in putting one man down nicolas cursing breaking away and netting stuck here renewing. and went into the army manning coakley the broncos to run the show that alexei yashin ripped up the scoring for nearly eight minutes from the final whistle visitors didn't give up the fight and managed to score a consolation goal but after the outcome it's always easier when you see the boys are playing well and working hard. want to work hard for them and when they scoring it's always also confidence not just
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a damn thing tonight we can win this game because the boys can score and. the lock is on our side since it's always easier when you are having a scoring. cisco claimed their fourth consecutive win although you thursday. placed in more stuff with. the q two i'm going to winners of course but because archy. russia claim yet another gold medal at the first ever winter youth olympic games taking place in austria unless the c.s.m. of us winning the women's cross-country five kilometer classic the russian completing the distance in the time of fourteen minutes eighteen seconds to me is a memory a lumpish. and fall to meet up with him russia topped the medal stand in job growth in china with buy gold and eleven garments. are ready for another installment of the biggest rivalry in club football it is barcelona versus holders
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real madrid tonight in the copper del rey quarterfinals the first twenty twelve usual barsa coach pep guardiola is talking up his opponents to some computers i guess that will be on the champions so this competition and the leaders of the spanish league the also have the best record in the champions league group stage all this time is over we're playing against the strongest royal we can ever face in any competition at the local we should be ourselves in play the best possible game to score goals of the with our thoughts on the second leg open. and we end with american football where four teams are remain in what's been a wildly unpredictable n.f.l. postseason baltimore new england some francisco on the new york giants the squads with super bowl forty six on their minds even scoresby looks back now at how they moved to win a much of the big downs. starting in the a.f.c. where the baltimore ravens were more than ready to play spoiler against the houston texans team coming off their first playoff win ever in their maiden appearance
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houston though unable to take care of the ball like they did in their thirty one to ten win over the cincinnati bengals in the wildcard round a muffed punt by the texans jacoby jones allowing baltimore to run the table early on joe flacco taking advantage of a short field to find tight end chris wilson for a seven to three lead the texans made a game of it but rookie quarterback t.j. yates had three interceptions and couldn't deliver when it mattered most the ravens winning twenty to thirteen they now face the patriots team whom they crushed thirty three to fourteen back in the two thousand and nine clay out of the buildings new england no doubt remember that embarrassing home loss in the wild card round the patriots don't play nothing like that seam of a few years ago absolutely demolishing the denver broncos at the weekend while tom brady throwing six touchdown passes to tie the postseason record in a forty five to ten romm. the three time champions of now won nine straight games
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and ended a three game playoff win the streak and some style new england the only high octane office of team still in the hunt after both the new orleans saints and the green bay packers crashed out was over in the n.f.c. the san francisco forty nine er scame out firing against the saints with alex smith finding vernon davis to draw first blood the imposing tight end would play an even bigger role later on and it looked as if the saints would once again out score the opposition in the fourth quarter find size speedster darren sproles outmaneuvering the defense to make it twenty four to twenty three smith however found davis again when san francisco were down by three with just nine seconds left in the game same safety roman harper feeling the pain of that thirty six to thirty two loss on a collision with the. seven you know the red hot new york giants will now try to stop the forty niners after confident when all the reigning champions green bay the
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team next exposing the packers security is healed by al running the shaky defense and making it ten to three in the first quarter time cuts to giants few teams ever score in a last second long bomb to end the half but the giants benefited from a resilient mix again as the twenty four year old held onto the ball to make it twenty that sent the break one of the best often says in the national football league just unable to get it together in the second the packers rinds ran fumbling the ball allowing the giants marial manningham to score thirty seven to twenty how it ended meaning there will be a new super bowl champion this year the remaining teams now just one win away from their respective conference titles and a trip to the biggest game of the n.f.l. season yvonne's a gorski r t s nassau gearing up to quite a superbowl run in all your sports for now though whether it's next year or twenty four hour r.t. .
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