hill yesterday the question is was anyone listening going to explore what's next for the movement four months into that or anniversary. and while the outlook of the office by protest might be a little hazy the trends research institute says the future is crystal clear when to look into the glass ball and get some of their economic predictions for two thousand and twelve. good evening it's wednesday january eighteenth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm lucy catherine of and of course you're watching our t.v. . now we begin today with the war that you probably won't see on your television screens it's a battle between hollywood millionaires and silicon valley billionaires and at stake is only the future of the world wide web that this war isn't being fought with tomahawk missiles or predator drones but of course there is an army of hired mercenaries in the form of paid lobbyists and while there won't be any blood in

this one the money has been flowing through the halls of congress which until today of course has served as the battlefield for this battle sopa and pipa those are the nicknames for the legislation they stand for the stop online piracy act and the protect ip act the hollywood backed house and senate bills are designed to well fight online piracy which sounds of course innocent enough except that experts human rights groups free speech advocates tech giants attorneys and even polar opposites like move on dot org and the heritage foundation all agree that this legislation could effectively break the internet as we know it now that is because legislation would give the government as well as major corporations the power to shut down entire websites accused of copyright violations and all of this without a single trial or a court hearing and if you want to see what this might look like try signing on to wikipedia google reddit craigslist and any of the seven thousand websites that went dark today in protest even google's own survey britain warned that the legislation

could put the u.s. in the same league as china or iran as far as internet censorship is concerned now former senator chris dodd who now heads the motion picture association of america decided to lash out at the protesters today he wrote quote some technology business interests are resorting to stunts to punish their users or turn them into corporate pawns it's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally screw skew their facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests. now mind you this is coming from hollywood's top lobbyist the guy who is paid to represent corporate interests and regardless of whether you stand where you stand on this issue who's right and who's wrong and does seem like the legislation is a big deal right i mean at least big enough to merit some sort of widespread spread coverage that's what one would assume of course i decided to flip through the mainstream networks today and the enough there was nothing on fox news when i

checked this morning which is the bit odd since it seems to have all of the favorite elements that the networks pundits love to hit for example evil big government and all those commie lefty activists in hollywood when i flip to imus n.b.c. to catch the segment take a look nothing said talent like a painting floral winkle time or is becoming a you tube and. probably be an artist rest because we're like just six weeks old. yeah well surprising until you realize that both fox news and b c universal are also backing the legislation leading forward on behalf of big money a lot to discuss here and please tune in for the five pm show at five pm eastern where we're going to bring you a live report with someone who's been tracking all of this very closely but for now moving moving on to other news well tech firms free speech advocates human rights workers and fans of the free and open internet as we know it aren't the only groups that are lining up to battle corporate interests and their army of lobbyists occupy

wall street activists descended on capitol hill yesterday to protest corporate influence over u.s. politics the demonstrations were arranged to coincide with the four month anniversary of the birth of the movement hundreds of people took to the streets including our own got an agent you can who filed this report. the protesters have shifted their focus from wall street to capitol hill and here they are hundreds of protesters gathered in front of the u.s. capitol building they have a permit to protest on this lawn but we have already seen several people arrested. protesters say when the interests of big corporations are at stake their voice their interests no longer count and they're angry at the fact that the influence of money is only set to grow in u.s. politics supreme court's decision now allows corporations to funnel as much money as they wanted to candidates and protesters say it's legalized corruption. the cozy relationship between big businesses on lawmakers here ledge to the

complete lack of oversight over wall street which brought about the financial crisis of two thousand and eight and not just americans were affected but the whole world so people here want money out of politics but it's easier said than done and a lot of people especially outside the movement are very much skeptical about whether the protests can actually change something some say that the tents and the banners you know won't change anything what do you say to that i think the tents in the banners are crucial part of being publicized and being public about it because it's so easy to ignore movement unless it's in your face do you think the movement has any impact i mean it's been there for four months right on the movement has a huge impact in that a lot of things that are not even talked about in the political agenda usually are now being talked about there is in the news on a constant basis talking about income inequality the fact that corporations are running our government has stolen our elections so many times with all the

legalized bribery in the campaign finance system and other things that are most legal moving into the night hundreds more not thousands joined the protest and they marched all the way from capitol hill to the white house. ok. so. here they are hundreds of people fanning right outside the white house. and the release a way the way. the movement has certainly evolved i mean you see the last of the tents across the country because authorities under different pretenses and that is they have a victory of the protesters out of their occupy locations but you see more at these one time actions one day rallies like this one which started on capitol hill. and from kenya all the way told the white house right here that these people are here

to get their message across a whole lot of young people around but again whether or not these protests will bring any result that that still remains very much on clear. and that was our own guy an agent you can reporting on occupy congress well the occupy wall street protesters may be really fighting to change the system but one bonafide professional fighter has jumped into the ring with his support for the movement if you follow mixed martial arts then you'll know my next guest the snow man i'm talking of course about two time a.t.c.c. world champion jeff monson he was with us earlier this month talk about why his politics are getting a bit more attention than his punch and he's back with us today from our miami studio jeff welcome back to the program it's really great to hear from you again. occupy wall street now they're targeting congress do you agree with this or do you think that these these folks should keep the focus back on wall street where the corporations are well i think it's great what they're doing now because

what the what the movement has done you know started four months ago has led us to a feeling of solidarity that we had each other's back that we were you know able to make some changes and that if we you know plant the seed right now that the greater changes could come and even know some of the you know corporations have gone on and status quo you know i think that you know down the road there's going to be big changes and arsenal social change and so this is a continuation people you know have like i said have a solidarity and you realize that with the strength of numbers and we can make some things happen but congress theoretically supposed to be an extension of us the citizens the people right i mean we voted these guys into office do you feel are you i mean do you feel that our lawmakers represent us and our interests. well i mean it's a joke and it's one of the things that frustrates me a lot because you know we're supposed to have a democracy which means rule by people you know obviously because you know three

hundred million people united states we have a representative democracy which means that they're supposed to represent the people of the united states you know we didn't want to be in iraq you know we're misled and you know afghanistan and you know they're not doing the things that we want to do you know it's ok for you know a company to pay a legislator you know a certain amount of money to have him out on some something to a bill and you know a pharmaceutical or an oil company get some special privilege which hurts so much hurts incidence of the united states and it's legal and you know these people are millionaires and sometimes billionaires they do this so they don't represent us at all they represent the corporations and you know the mass media and you know if there's something else needs to be done by the people we have to take to the streets well take to the streets but at the same time we saw a couple hundred turnout yesterday and i you know i don't want to be dismissive of the movement i think it seems like they have at least shifted the national dialogue

but do you really think that a few protests here and there are going to change things. well like i said i mean even even the mass you know occupied new york movement occupy wall street you know it you know wasn't isolated to united states was thousands of cities worldwide and you know did the corporations have their profits reduced you know not really but it what it did it planted a seed for the future it would basically let us know a lot we realized what's going on we're educating people we're educating ourselves and that hey there's other people like us we are the working class the government and these corporations would have us like to fight each other you know they would have. you know fight race wars and you know and different problems within ourselves but we are the working class without us nothing else happens you know we're the people who you know wash the cars who make the hamburgers who sweep the

driveways who who build this country the way it is and without us there's nothing you know so i think in the future you know if we if we had a general strike or some i doubt it was shut down wall street shut down this country in a heartbeat. i mean obviously have sort of a mass media platform you're very well known for what you for what you do for a living very well respected other people that listen to you i mean if a guy who cut his teeth i guess being an activist and a street organizer in chicago could be president of states are you willing or interested in stepping up and trying to sort of be the proverbial leader of this kind of way when they're talking about. well that's the thing you know it was funny because you know the media approach it like where the leaders were you know one of the mans of occupy wall street would have a want and i think that's what's so great about the whole movement it's paradigm was changed it's like we the people you know we were doing this it's not individual

leading us we're not following anybody we're working together and that's the beauty of the whole movement is that it was a social class a working class of people united solidarity where people like saw each others the things that they needed of a hey we can do this together and we don't need someone leading us yeah there's going to be people you know educated and that's kind of my job you know as as an anarchist obviously i would be against what i believe you know take a political position or. you know a position of leading but you know i'm going to do my best buy to educate people and they say the best way to to lead is to to yourselves and i'm just curious i mean why do you think if these interests are so indeed entrenched in congress if they're so against the working man as you said working class person why do you think more americans aren't joining up with the movement. it's comfort you know

if you have a place say you're living in right now you're barely making your bills if you're you know able to get by are you going to sacrifice that potentially lose those things to go protest you know lose your job and you know have your kid not to go to school or you know maybe you should not be able make your car payment because you're missing work so i think it's just comfort and as more and more americans are being discomforted by losing their jobs and not be able to have retirement and and working longer and those kind of things i think you're going to see the movement grow like i said i would definitely see has been planted but you know i've said this last time i was on the show is that we need a social change not a political change and the only way a social change is going to happen is if the masses us the people that let them sleep at night stand up and say we've had enough because they're not going to do it themselves you know the corporations the government officials they're making money they're doing fine they don't have to worry about you know making the next mortgage

payment or the next rent or you know if we're going to have a job next week they're fine we're the ones that are worried about this were the nonsense need to step forward and make a change but like i said more and more people get put out on the street or you know how they're kids that i can't my kids a four point zero student i can't it's for to send him to college this isn't right i think you're going to see people step up more and join the movement and jeff you know you're talking about sort of people stepping up more people waking up more to these economic factors do you think that we can afford to wait for a slow gradual sort of evolution or are we talking about the need perhaps for something closer to revolution. now that's the that's a wonderful question and i don't know you know you know i go i just say take every little step you can get at a time push forward and every little victory in the long run is going to make a difference right now honestly i don't believe you know in my lifetime what i what i envision you know people working together the centralized system where you know

everybody is equal i you know i don't see that in my lifetime because of like you said the government in the corporate how entrenched they are and how we aren't transparent in thinking that this is the way it should be it's going to take a little you know little pushes a little victories here and there to make that happen but we just got to be you know push forward and people sometimes criticize me they're like jeff you're an artist you you want big government and you want this but you know ironically that's the price you pay you know yeah i do want more parks and i do want more involvement in you know government in you know making the schools better and money for you know welfare and money for you know people get laid off so the extended unemployment those kind of things because that's unfortunately the irony of having accomplished that system is you need counteractive you know government you know benefits to try to try to help us out so i think you need to push for those things pushed by for the movement right now and you know step by step you know changes will happen but

education is the key we've got to educate ourselves that hey there's a different way and not be like so mindset like a they this is what they told us you've got to realize all the changes ever been made you have the civil rights movement. your unions those kind of things we're all broke the law they broke the law in order to make those changes at the time they were you know demonized and seen as you know these are criminals you know put in jail or you know hose down or put the you know kicked off the bus whatever you know is it was a crime but now we look back and go man i was so glad that they they stood up to the way the system was so that's really a that's a really interesting point jeff especially when we have so many pundits on the may . stream president talking these these guys are actually law breakers so we're out of time but i really want to thank you for speaking with us today and of course that was american mixed martial arts artist and political activist jeff monson. right well still ahead on our team from government crackdowns to the american market the trends research institute has hit the nail on the had numerous times in

the past but his predictions sound they're ready to give us a few more up next. three years to believe the rest. but what will test nobody seems to know. that never a pepper sprayed the face but what the argument that they're being overly dramatic . i mean. i'm.

looking at the capitol and now because i'm laurin lister. well from internet censorship to massive protests it certainly seems like some of the trends from last year are only growing in force now that it is twenty twelve when excuss should know a thing or two about that he's been called the martial artist of trends forecasting and he's here to break it all down for us gerald celente is the publisher of the trends journal and the founder of trends research institute. say welcome back on the program now we were talking about the occupy wall street movement with my guest just a moment ago there is the four month anniversary it doesn't seem like these protests are stopping even though everyone predicted that they would this was of course in one of your transfer dictions let's talk about that how do you see this of alving.

well it's global it's not only it's wide in eighty countries fifteen hundred cities worldwide and it just continues on it's going on in ireland as we speak so what it is it's basically when the money stops flowing down to the man on the street the blood starts flowing in the streets it's class warfare it's as simple as that far too few have much too much away too many have much too little and what's interesting about the occupy movement is that the very weakness that the critics claim it to be that they don't have one voice or one single message that actually is their strength for example we saw the wiki leaks movement dog i even though they were putting out very damaging revelations from the embassy cables because they chopped off the head so to speak of julian is songe so the occupy movement is just beginning it's not going to stop and it's going to take very different forms very

different issues and again it's going to spread worldwide you cut off one tentacle another one grows misled to have course governments don't like instability who does so we can assume. predict that they will take some sorts of measures to sort of calm things down a little bit or perhaps pass some tougher laws i think those were and some of their predictions let's talk about some potential reactions that we can see either from global governance or here at home with the n.d.a. bill. well exactly the. sign dawn why new year's eve when very few people who did to the news have and it's going on around the world what happens is this lucy the bigger the screw ups of government the greater their failures the more they clap they clamp down on the people so we soar with n.d.a. we're seeing it in greece we're seeing it in italy we're seeing it in hungary we're

seeing it everywhere the greater the failure the bigger the crackdown so now what have they done they've turned america into a battlefield america i mean you can't make this kind of stuff up where they just it's to no bill of rights that they just passed so they know what's coming they see the they see the protest worldwide last year at this time what was it tunisia they don't went to egypt it went to yemen bahrain this still going on over in greece there are there are protests all that simon happened this summer over in the u.k. oh no it was just hooligans oh the occupy movement oh we know newt gingrich told us all these people have to do is go take a bath and get a job that's how disconnected they are one level but the other one level is they know this thing is coming down and they have the plan they now have what the military they were they repeal the cop posse comitatus act of eight hundred seventy eight the military could come in now and take control they know it's happening well

let's talk about that you bring up the nomic martial law and one of our protections how could we see that play out that sounds quite terrifying to me frankly well go back anybody could google has put in john kors zines name the guy who brought m.f. global down he was running for reelection of governor in june of two thousand and nine the obama administration got sworn in in january two thousand and nine there's joe biden vice president campaigning for it and biden says. one of the first things the day we were after we were sworn in number one priority was whether or not to call a bank holiday that's how bad the economy was it's no holiday you can't get your money out that's before the fed pumped in what sixteen trillion dollars and that loose years before the european system started to collapse we are forecasting there's going to be a major major turmoil coming out of europe it's going to roil of financial markets

and the they probably won't blame it on that they'll be a false flag maybe an attack with iran something that will force them to close down the banks now i'm saying this because of people remember you go back to nine eleven you know what they did they closed down wall street you know what that meant that meant that if you had certificates of deposit for example you could not care for them in so we're looking at something of a major magnitude because of the failure of the financial system that they are not able to fix all they're doing is throwing more money on top of bad money that they can't collect and this major meltdown they are talking about you're predicting this for this coming year this twenty twelve specifically yes it is it's in the works now they cannot fix the european debt crisis and they're already priming the people for a greek default and then there's italy and then there's spain then there's portugal and then there's ireland and it doesn't stop look they just downgrade it as simply

why nine countries and by the way they did that very sly they did it on a friday afternoon after the markets closed and. at the martin luther king holiday so the impact was felt right away well there was one of the top politicians in germany said that you know this whole downgrade thing this s. and p. issue with their euro zone that's really just part of the u.s. trying to undermine the euro what do you what do you make of that do you think that's the u.s. is trying to undermine the euro why everybody's on the line here everybody year olds the whole thing is collapse the unit americans are drawing to blame the europeans look what they just did they just increased our debt levels in the united states so now when you have the problems going on in europe they the americans blame the europeans for a full have you know. really how recovery the europeans on the other hand they are in a mess over there now they're blaming the americans anybody you blame these are politicians

that's what they do well politicians we're almost out of time for a very very briefly you mentioned something about the so-called big brother internet in a sentence or less what can we expect in that regard bring it back to economic martial law bring it back to battlefield america they keep taking our rights they keep clamping down on us and they're going to grab more and more from the internet to watch us and stop us that every level of freedom that we have it's a trend that's been going on since george w. bush with the patriot act and it's excel aerated on the role bomb all right well some terrifying predictions there from our friend the publisher of the trends journal and the director of the trends research institute thank you so much thank you rebel capital account is up next on our t.v.'s let's check in with alarm leicester to see what is on today's agenda hi laurie anyone to tell us what you

have cooking today absolutely lucy i heard you talking a little bit about the year oh we're going to ask if maybe leaders people like angela merkel maybe you know a big investors if they need psychotherapy because. it seems like everybody's in denial and lucy if we're only in the first stage of grief we have a long way to go before they get to acceptance we're going to talk to a greek economist yanis varoufakis to really give us this insight into greece because this is what we see today greece the greek government really i should say is negotiating a way to not default but the country is pretty much in deep balls so we've got to figure out how this is all going to get a pan out lose and of course there's implications for us right here in the states so certainly hope our viewers will tune in to get all those details and a lot more coming up in just a few minutes carol that does it for now for more on the stories that we've covered please go to our dot com slash usa don't forget to check out our youtube page it's youtube dot com slash our team america as always you can follow me on twitter and

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attempt to protect property puts life in real danger that we have been deprived of the only means of earning a living i haven't got the regionals of all the papers. then legalized the ownership rights on the basis of companies freedom becomes just a stage prop. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. wealthy british soil the sun. spot on right on. target.

market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our. good afternoon and welcome to capital account i'm lauren lyster here in washington d.c. and it's looking like the greek government may not be able to pay its bills come march athens is trying to negotiate with investors for them to take a bigger haircut the labor unions meanwhile are negotiating on proposed labor cost cutting so how will this greek tragedy play out no one seems to know but what does this mess tell us about the sanity of those who claim to be in control of this crazy economic world we're live in and that's a question we're going to try to answer and a ban on proprietary trading for big banks was debated in congress today.