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what they were testing the nobody seems to know. that never a pepper sprayed the face but part of the argument that they're being overly dramatic. hi guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliance engaging the your comments from facebook twitter and you tube because you've got to say i listen now first i want to respond with you or that watch my m.s.m. for monday stroh about the mainstream media's blackout of all things but that was until today but live through on commented on you tube why the f. isn't this on my t.v. . seriously these five minutes are more informing than the goddamn one hour
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expletive the big give a.b.c. n.b.c. fox etc now so now first let me say that i was sorry that you don't get our show on your t.v. we're very quickly expanding and so hopefully will be on your airwaves in your area soon enough but in the meantime you can find all of our content online and you can live stream it as well now when move on to the crux of this comment for one i like the passion i too often filled with an uncontrollable rage right turn on the t.v. and literally the only thing that i see day after day is horse race political coverage not a minute of the stories that are actually important to our lives so the future of the internet for example because apparently that's not as important as what color sweater vest rick santorum is wearing today but keep watching your show and i promise that will keep working hard every day to bring in the news that actually matters to you and next i want to respond to a viewer who like our first commenter getting a little bit frustrated with the media status quo illand crux commented on you tube
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i'm waiting for pm and a protect mainstream media act in which all turn the news outlets are outlawed and blacklisted from the net sometimes i think we should just nuke ourselves back into the stone age so we can start over again. you know it yeah i have to admit that i have my days when i wonder when they're just going to mandate what information we're going to be able to hear hopefully won't get there but that's why i think that we ought to pay more attention to something like the grand jury being brought against wiki leaks to see how certain journalism that the government doesn't like they're attempting to silence but i think that sopa and pipa really are one of the another one of the other initial major battles in a war to come to keep the internet where much of the alternative media lives free free from the regulation and free from the censorship i fully believe that it's something we're going to see play out in the next couple of years and i have to say that seeing the power americans mobilizing on the internet to fight back in the past couple of months does give me some hope that we might actually win now finally i want to respond to respond to a very kind of you were joe johnson it tweeted that us at the low to show
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appreciate your ability to not fall for the divide and conquer mentality of the elite keep being critical of obama dems and g.o.p. well we're happy that you feel this way joe i'm happy that you get it the i've shown you guys some comments or people accuse me of being too hard on obama but not on the right and then another comment that says the exact opposite some people just get a little confused when you don't fall out of the partisan game but that's what we're here for true mind everybody that things aren't just left and right or just black and white that when we realize what actually unites us then they can't congress at my rantings today but i will be back with more as usual next week. it's been a long time since the world is really heard from julian assange every public statements made during his continuing battle to appeal sweden's extradition attempts to try him for sexual allegations something a songe fears is going to result in his extradition to the u.s. but now rolling stone's michael hastings had the rare opportunity to actually sit down with the wiki leaks founder one on one while he's under house arrest in london and awaiting his final appeal attempt with the british supreme court which is set
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for friday february first of this year three days that hastings spent with a songe also happen to be during bradley manning's article thirty two pretrial hearing that was held at fort meade last month so what is a songe have to say for himself about the u.s. government's case against him that the western media is abandonment of him the eruptions we've seen across the world in the form of protest and revolution and the future of wiki leaks he things learns that a songe actually has a few regrets so here to discuss it with me is michael hastings rolling stone contributing editor and author of the operators michael thanks so much for coming on and i think just last week talking about mcchrystal now you got a son to tell me about that why the sons agreed to do an interview with you i've been talking to that we could go for about a month i felt the song was a fascinating figure in some ways i could relate to a beer on a very small scale what it's like when when other when the government starts to really criticize your work and that's up to me a couple times and i've been out there defending wiki leaks and the mission of what
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they're doing because i think it's very important and there were very few journalists who were actually going out there and saying hey you know this is a good thing they're doing i think that a lot of people are probably carious about what a songes state it's like he's been under house arrest has this thing around his ankle been locked away for months and nobody really gets to see him what's what's he like right now just julie he's cool he's cool he you know pressed to say that he's broke you know and you know ice will do i think definitely i mean the way i describe in the story i stay isolated vulnerable and broke and what. i mean by that is that this is a guy who's used to moving around wherever you want all across the world he went something like forty high schools traveled the globe very freely for the past year he's been stiffed he's been put in the same location they've now moved occasions but essentially he has to go and check into the police station every day that we can he says under an economic embargo essentially his own personal bank accounts been shut down he wears a ankle electronic manical ankle bracelet around his leg you know
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a lot of his close friends who had had basically abandoned him a lot of the support he lost because of the various allegations against him and it's been so i think it's been a very tough year but i was i was impressed by his. just the way he could talk about a lot of these issues and that's why i wanted to sort of get his take not filtered through me but just let julian be julian and see what he says do you think that he feels defeated or like it's over for heaven anyway because one of the things that he's fighting extradition to sweden where he believes that that he'll be extradited to the u.s. but if he stays in the u.k. does that mean that the situation is going to end up any differently i think he's in a very challenging legal situation on february first is going to be what could be his final appeal if you lose that appeal you might immediately be extradited to sweden within the next ten days if that happens we don't know what's going to happen you know what he's there not that he has been charged with anything they're just allegations and so when he goes to sweden he fears that he's going to be put in
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jail and we're never going to hear from him again essentially or it can be very difficult for him to get out of that that predicament so it's in even if he beats the charges in england there's still an interpol arrest warrant out for him and it's going to be difficult to travel in themselves to try to extradite him so it's tough it's a tough situation isn't giving up does he think that he's lost no matter what i don't think a guy like a saw and his sort of mentality is not one that's going to be defeated very easily and i think he sees this as a long struggle he's looking at this not as next month but he's looking i believe. years down the line at least that's that was my sense and he's definitely in a fight for wiki leaks life and to continue what they've been doing i think it's a very challenging and you know he has its critics who say he hasn't helped himself in some ways and perhaps that's that's true but on the way let's get into some of that later he has regrets for certain things that he wished that he would have done differently over the past year i asked him that question and he said that of course
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i would have there are things i would have done differently my life otherwise they wouldn't be i hate those people who would never do anything differently specifically about what happened in sweden when he was alleged in these two cases of sexual misconduct he said he should have taken it more seriously i don't at the time he had just become a worldwide celebrity and i and i and i truly believe that when he was told about these things he just didn't he thought it was some sort of. they didn't it was a big deal and i think that was a severe miscalculation that he's paid a very serious price for i mean because of that he's been under house arrest for the past year something and it's been politicized to trial clearly and from his perspective i understand why he's worried about being extradited let's move on to like i said you were there during bradley manning's pretrial hearing here in fort meade and basically what's come out since that is we're monitoring very closely to this that it seems like they're going to try to get bradley manning to testify against julian assange and so you know i'm curious do you think that assigns care about what happens to bradley manning because it only affects us on shore because
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he also doesn't agree with the way that manning has been treated with the solitary confinement that he was put into what i think it's both but i think clearly you know he's been a supporter of manning from the beginning and i and i think specifically yet they're trying to flip manning the government is trying to flip manning to testify against the staunch to try to get them get wiki leaks in the case of espionage act going to say that we can leaks and bradley manning committed espionage now this is our this is to me as a journalist as someone who reports sometimes on classified information this is completely outrageous and this is why. much of the interview deals with sort of the criticism that assad is levels against some of the western press particularly and in england in the united states because by distancing themselves from a side which by criticizing his hygiene his ego. by essentially disowning him they have made him made it easier for the u.s. government to investigate and attack a son now they are literally take on that do you think if when you look at the way the guardian reacted when you look at the way the new york times reacted do you
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think that what they did was. think they were just playing it safe i think they were playing it safe and rightly so or not i would not have done that if i was in their position but the chances of me becoming editor of the new york times are probably quite low but yeah i think in a situation i mean the line is you know in a situation like this when pressed freedoms are involved i think as a journalist you have to take a stand look there's a lot of things you can criticize about wiki leaks and what and how they did things and that was very imperfect whether it's redactions or whether it's oh he should have you know listen to these other people more or whether you're upset with what he's been alleged to personally done there's a lot of things you can you can criticize but if you're saying that if you don't like a sausage because his you know he smells and there's holes in his socks you know show me a journalist i could name twenty five other you know pulitzer prize winning journalist who have but they would never be treated that way the final point if julian songe
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worked for the new york times he would have got a pulitzer prize. all right i also want to ask you a couple things about what has happened in the last year i know that about as well i mean you asked him about their spring asked about occupy wall street he basically said that things turned out the way that he planned he planned so he thinks that he planned arab spring earlier you know you have great julian assange reminded me of when i'd sat down to interview revolutionary leaders guerrilla leaders insurgent leaders even you could say and in that his viewpoint is is very is radically different from like the traditional journalist even like myself about what he's trying to accomplish what he's doing with the information and with wiki leaks and he uses journalism as a tool for this is it's truly truly revolutionary so his idea is that to release all this information at once which kind of like which overflows the system or overtakes the system and that's what makes these regimes collapse by giving people information now how much of the arab spring is due to wiki leaks i mean i think you
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did that's that's up for debate but i think you can you can clearly make a role make a case that look the information they released about tunisia and then later on about egypt had serious impact well he thinks that knowledge gives people power and then when you have that knowledge then you can't be taken advantage of by those that rule with you i guess you could say but do you think of the united states is an anomaly and that sense i mean there is a lot of information that came out and all of the cables and you know some of them were diplomatic cables had to do with a lot of countries but a lot of it was war crimes by our military and you can't really say that that's not necessarily will occupy wall street protests you can't say there's been a massive uprising because of wiki leaks here no i think well i think there's solidarity i'm using were the words here i think there is a connection between occupy between what the arab spring anonymous occupy wall street there's a there's a connection there are these connections here which is on just sort of talking
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about and playing into i think a lot of us. supporters say they would wish he would no longer focus as much on the united states will focus on other regimes in the world and that could take some heat off him and show that he's not just anti american which is you know a slur that gets sent against him at well and we open the piece with him talking about you know maddest madison and jefferson. so i you know i came away being a fascinating guy you know he was as advertised. you know visionary revolutionary. difficult. might say but but a fun guy to spend a couple days with our michael thanks for sharing i would love to get back on the show i got to interview him myself thanks so much thanks for having appreciate it. are coming up next president obama finally made a decision on the keystone x.l. pipeline and then happy hour. even faster and one state is working on a law that would make it illegal for you to wear your pajamas on.
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. the light will come down. so must you choir's will be saying. well tonight we have a true glimmer of hope when it comes to the construction of the keystone x.l. pipeline the obama administration has announced that it is rejecting at trans canada is application for the pipeline as opposed to stretch from canada down to texas and a statement issued this afternoon president obama said that he received a recommendation from the state department not to allow the permit for building the oil pipeline on the surface it looks like a pretty significant move in the name of mother nature however obama made it very clear that he bases reasoning on the looming deadline that was put in place by republicans in congress obama writes they announce. it is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the state department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the american people i'm disappointed
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that republicans in congress forced this decision but it does not change my administration's commitment to american made energy that creates jobs and reduces our and dependence on oil now looks like the president is working hard to stay in the good graces of trans canada and point the finger at rational republicans he specifically states that his decision is not based on the merits of the pipeline itself but we should note that the administration has decided to let the oil companies reapply for the permit as long as they come up with an alternative route so as you can imagine members of the g.o.p. are just firies over obama's decision calling it an epic job killer. president to expedite of the approval. broadchurch but won't approve a project that's been under review for over three years the american people are still asking the question where are the jobs here the president's going over to the great twenty thousand direct jobs and over one hundred thousand indirect jobs but he says no. so once again congressional republicans are in a fight with the president and his administration republicans fall the side of
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a massive oil corporation on the surface it looks like obama is siding with the environment but based on his statement earlier today it's definitely not that simple as explained in the past obama isn't working his way out of being stuck between a rock and a hard place he's attempted to appease the environmentalists by holding off on the pipeline until after the election year a move that could win him more votes and at the same time he's also trying to keep those who put job creation as a top priority on board including a divided f l c o by saying that transcatheter will have a chance at a redo and david roberts of grist made this point a tweet today he said no one should be under any illusion that i was turned against oil and gas was forced into this and will have to be forced at every step and from the looks of it he's right about his move was one that will hold off those who fight for the environment from jumping ship in the immediate months but the battle to end the keystone x.l. pipeline once and for all is far from over that said i do think that putting the brakes on the project even in the short term is a glimmer of hope. and
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now it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening is lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r.t. and comedian and young. hey guys thanks for joining me you know let's talk fast food shall we fast food it's cheap easily accessible over the drive through but now burger king wants to make it even easier for you to get it to look. what they're doing is they're going to give you home delivery of your whoppers and your fries not shakes and not reckless menus and the fee is two dollars but they've got this great new technology they call it thermal packaging technology where they can kind of ensure that your meal is not soggy so for two dollars if you want to be lazy and avoid the drive through or just going to burger king all together. i a big fan of delivery you know when you can get everything delivered i'm not
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exactly sure i'd go for burger king but like if mcdonald's were to start delivering muffins or sausage or weapons with cheese or maybe that taco bell started delivering the cheesy gordita crunchers then i would be ecstatic i like how you've thought this through exactly what items you'd like delivered and you should be delivering enough energy to end a very fancy technologically advanced thermal packaging are those just the things that they put containers and i'm sure you know it's a bunch of glue i can't mention. don't don't ruin it but it's not cool yeah i thought that this was amazing to have i don't even care if it's burger king which i'm not into but i was just happy that there's going to be more delivery in d.c. because anybody that's lived anywhere else knows there's more delivery practically everywhere else and deliver a little bit from that what do you think the king has been warning us about this for years i don't know you saw a quick clip of it there in the commercial he's been popping up in people's bedrooms and kitchens and stuff he's already he's bringing it you're going to get a creepy head in the morning is that what you want to wake up to want to ask you
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have we not i didn't say i don't think you know what i certainly think i'll make it seem like i don't want to i just want she's good french. i think i think of hungry it's dinner time. move on to the next story cosmo magazine basically is always talking about sex and what you can do whatever make your joy and stuff like that but it's sold on the shelves and any convenience store pharmacy or whatnot and now there's a campaign to basically censor a cosmetic look check out the cover of this magazine it's a cause moment and the cover is so racy we had to blur it for television but if you're at the checkout counter at the supermarket good luck because you and your kids will have a bird's eye view to all the racy comments and graphics. all right we actually have a copy of the mag i want to show you this to you should really. be going to be very specific words of sex and vagina i'm pretty sure those are the days there is you
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know best sex ever sex is a bad word now it's really received you have to censor it and said i know are you ok down there that's important you write words you don't even censor vagina and i thought it was just you know john i think i learned a lot though from this today is like this is really educational if we can and if a guy likes you apparently he can give you he'll give you a thumbs up at the bar so i just want to yeah we got a lot of those all the time maybe you know caisson but once in a while that's the sense of the word women but not for men can i say are important . it's just silly basically what they want to do is they want to be sold in the rap being that like playboy and hustler you know we're like you can't see the good in that i wish there were something pornographic and that there was nothing good in that magazine i read way too much of it today you know you read it cover to cover you are expert man or god though i will admit that like i don't know a single adult woman that actually read cosmo and i do remember every teenage girl going through a phase where they all started dating cosmo before anybody was even having sex or
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like knew what any of these things were because it was kind of intriguing and you can buy it but if i didn't hear it censor it. wasn't so puritan tannic goal you wouldn't have the issue of people needing to pick up a cosmo order to get their sex that i was just reading an article in a columnist who was dutch saying that the reason why they have fewer teen pregnancies fear abortions is because they parents have kids have sex in their home there's they're less happier tentacle i just wanna keep saying there's nothing good in that magazine there's no good tips they said like how to make sex great or whatever it was my cover i didn't see anything in there that was any you know education i've always like actually felt the same way they don't really have a lot to remark there isn't going to have a lot to offer our let's move on to our next one here ok so senator chuck grassley basically was asked the question about the labor department stricter limits on child labor. and he basically said. they could exacerbate the childhood or the child obesity epidemic by making kids less active these are his statements he said this farm bill were greatly affect our f.a.a.
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for age programs kids won't be able to help on farms not owned by their parents and then he goes on to say it's interesting that this child labor bill goes against michelle obama's anti-obesity initiative how can kids be active if they're limited by this law because you can't tell kids to join a soccer team or enjoy sports do they need to do hard physical labor in. the face of literally how can get be active they're not coming into contact with that pesticides and the other things that these laws disallow them from working should but i'm a i'm in favor of child labor really all my clothes are made for children and. the stitching is much tighter i just i appreciate their work more than adults and if there was child labor in this country maybe we would bring a few jobs back from china and have that insourcing that obama and again you and i have had this child later today of all those you know i know how they do you know you want your children you know the children protect them from pesticides. you last one twenty fifth and go this is really easy and. those crazy dough those are
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crazy says it all where's your pajamas with pride are those pretty maybe and. she says they're perfect for getting stuff done in a hurry it is comfortable but not everyone feels their appropriate more so i believe there is too little it's not merely because it's what germ of the day should be on the words more. the guy off to bed and wearing pajamas in public you can't legislate sleep where this is absurd what's considered. love specter into the pajamas are in i work pajama jeans right now touching you could see he was lying you know where he's going to join us off because it's like silky or something it's just p.s.k. agree that we can't right away either way or another we're going to wrap it up but it's going to be guys that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in to make sure they come back tomorrow having glasses for me joining us for happy hour but in the meantime don't forget to make less than a few on the show on facebook also follow us on twitter if there's anything you ever missed you can catch it on the dot com slash you know on
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i am not a warlock at least that i know but like ten thousand sites on the internet were blacked out too because there's a threat against the internet a threat brought to us by ninety four million dollars in corporate lobbying money last week i spoke with. daughter a member of the european parliament and the parliament of iceland when i was in iceland here's our conversation on this so paul wall. what's you.
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