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i'm sure they will be discussing an article recently published by the russian prime minister and national. election in russia is just around the date is march the fourth no wonder this week the current prime minister and campaign favorite has published his troll manifest praising the civil society and the middle class is pledging to diversify the economy and increase civil liberties if elected. to criticize claiming the promises are unlikely to be fulfilled they warn fans of the risk of further power. so what should we expect if mr food becomes president and does his recent article help us make predictions. and. the kremlin candidates have so far won every presidential race in russia's history
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the best result of a was achieved eighty's ago demir putin was reelected with seventy one percent of the vote this time around it's a much tougher. as the presidential race is taking place in the aftermath of last year's mass protests against alleged fraud at the parliamentary election. united russia party in half of the vote in the ballot rigging the accusations which infuriated the crowd the biggest opposition really is in russia's recent history did not lead to knowing the election result would be more of an intrigue into the presidential race the contenders are nothing but the reality a much more active electorate and the heated online debate. near putin still remains the most popular politician according to opinion polls you might be the first time a nice can really make it in the first. ground zero going action continues rivals
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are the three leaders of the political parties represented in the duma communist good ninety's who began the fifteenth quite cool to the presidency in one thousand nine to six but having children lost to boris yeltsin the highly eccentric leader of the liberal democratic party. and sergei mironov the leader of the fair russia party who headed the upper house of the russian parliament ten years other participants of the election rates one of russia's most well known politicians a drink will you do ski. broker of and the governor dmitri measurements of the political debate is most listened to the round the december protests this week do action race favorite word dinner putin published his manifesto which is considered to be in part he's response to those who took to the streets last month. hotel no welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us here on the show
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first of all this article of land we're putting is that we're discussing today it's called russia is concentrate he put in is promising a brighter future for the middle class in fact it seems he is addressing mainly the middle class in this article but is it his reaction to the december protests which were which were mostly supported by the urban educated part of the society what would you say. i'm afraid to have to disagree to do you because. putin says about middle class. he does not suggest anything to middle class yes of course but it does sound like a suggestion i mean what what we return to five million or. so they already have you know you have walking places and they think of. kind of. so their home too. more liberty more civil rights they
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have more one more chances for career but they didn't have announcer for a million or so i do not understand so he doesn't even answer you do you agree. that doesn't give an answer and in my opinion of course this article i mean if you're speaking about the men on the rest of the site and of course is so-called middle class or we can say young people. took part in this. part absolutely absolutely i'm sure that this is a reaction. and you know for example that before this campaign to the state duma a portion wrote another article in the same newspaper and it was also like a program of a go but it was about absolutely a different idea about your race your grace and of course with the role now here absolutely right program but i can agree with you again because he's tried
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to speak with the middle class but he can't give this price so we look let's stick to the middle class issue here is what putin had to say about the middle class in russia in this article. what is particularly important is that with the past ten years russia has produced a considerable segment of the population people who in the west told the middle classes their incomes allow them a certain freedom with what they choose to spend and what to see what to buy and how to spend their holidays they can afford to be choosy where to work and have some savings under their belt lastly the middle classes of people who can choose politics as a rule their education is such that they can take a discriminating attitude to candidates rather than with their heart ensured the middle classes have begun shaping their real demands to know various we. put in has been. very ambiguous in his reaction to the mass protests on the one
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side he was calling them bander long as accusing them of being paid sponsor at least by hillary clinton but on the other hand he is publishing articles appealing to the middle class do you see it as a contradiction gentleman on no he he. looks like his address and middle class but. daunte have his girl. and. so for example our president michel majid if he is serious about political reform here what he says about governors elections. new rules for the political markets are in your situation but not of what about this in this article of putin's. but not in the way i use or burn and one thing that several weeks ago all absolutely agree there was absolute
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a different attitude of different activity with years and over an article yet we see that i agree that in this article not so many answers. but we see it that there wouldn't will speak with this people so that is why now we see a recurrence of a new venue motion of fortune we try to speak with this people in the other interesting thing another interesting thing we read about in this article according to put it himself the emergence of the middle class in russia is an achievement of putin's rue do you agree and there's the middle class and self agree that this is yes we see that from zambia from the beginning of two solvent until this person to solve them they are we stand the years of prosperity and that is why we see the of course we see the increase of consumption we see the increase in of people's income and this protest is also the result of increase in wealth people incomes the middle class is not only consumption it's about it's about having this. see in political
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life as you can hear stuff in the rationality well so so. so so so so if it's first of all consumption then then put in doesn't have to fear i mean the practice of the middle class i mean they're irrelevant for the campaign or they are irrelevant. so i guess that. the girl for middle class is one of the achievements of putin's regime yes that's right but he says ok say think you do you have. to be busy for example in charity. something like this but don't go to political life it's not yours there are some people who are experts who are already. in government. jobs despite the protests despite despite the mood rather friendly mood towards the
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towards the the authorities that we saw. during the mass demonstrations there doesn't seem to be a dialogue establishing between this protesting middle class the angry urban citizens and the kremlin why not you know of course this article is not enough is not enough for the people and that is why you're speaking about this absence of real dialogue but we set about maybe three weeks of war it was impossible to think of that would write such article so maybe it after two or three weeks we'll see a lot of mazola i learned even with them when i saw not only on family to college and we saw also there were some of the some well actually rosen who still have to say something about the political debate in russia let's hear it i'm worried that there is virtually no broader discussion. what should be done beyond the elections
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after the election tomorrow mind this is not in the national interest it is not in the interest of the quality of society's development the standard of education and levels of responsibility. well if putin really is serious about being worried about the absence of political debate then why isn't he taking part in the debate in the in the election debate on television and newspapers and so and so forth one so if you. say spin doctor. would be a spin doctor all through argument put him. would say here don't go to debates really yes he's raging is about forty percent. here closest opponent has about ten percent and if you have a debate with this kinda date you. know well he doesn't.
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that's because. the fact of the debate i know what you're talking about do you mean that advertising advertising can never be good for a market leader yes yes it's also good for the outsiders yes you know in russia a very small such a course that you were speaking about to debate as a serious political tradition of course first of all we must mention united states but usually united states we see two candidates which usually have a pretty close as many call this is radio in russia of course it's an absolute a different situation that is why folk wouldn't most from technical point to you and sim possible to have public debate with them but we can speak about not directly bring i think it was also in my opinion is that you have this debate to sort of ok well just a reminder that you can sell your theme enough and give get an invention go political scientists are here in our studio we're discussing let me put this recent research manifesto his article published isn't it a new. and we'll be back right after
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a break so stay with us bending. the be. the be the first. the big. the e.
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move you are. just so the best see. the big thing x. x. x. x. x x. x . welcome back to spotlight and now we're not just
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a reminder that my guests on the show today are political scientists of guinea mention co and constantin similar if we're talking about putting political manifesto his recent article published in the is east international daily german well we talked about put inside talking about putting the political system about how it's going to develop if he is elected this is a very interesting social first of all one of the problems that many people seen with his political system is is that it's not producing any leader any political leader other than that i'm a put himself even the more most loyal medvedev didn't. decided not to run for the second presidential term and i would make a wild guess that this was an advice from latin reputed so why is it happening this way. because that's kind of tradition of russian monarchs here.
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of one leader. told about debates. talking about debates. only one only one case only one case the. future president took part in the debates in russia it was in the one nine hundred ninety. s. him it was not russia as you know this was russian route it was not but it was russia yes but not us and. said yes. there is. only one case so and i am afraid that. this. power what the. motive power and pyramid of power. does not allow to become a new leaders who is it well i mean i'm not discussing the the system itself is it
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right for russia to have such a good of course it's not right they do i mean for russian for the specific russian system of control is inadequate this is not consistent you know the problem was that at the beginning of ninety's we see of course when we see this transformation from seoul with aims to new democratic bangs of course there were a huge amount of political parties because of modern political leaders and that is why now and of ninety's we see the people who are a little bit sick and tired of story and those who are at the beginning of the first term there was another idea of people there was another. we can say the idea was. not the people they don't want to see this conflict of different leaders and so on so on they want to see stable state good
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sellers and so on so so now we see of course absent a different situation we see the new people which are trying to see a new policy that is why a lot of people they're speaking about the so-called return of politics in russia but i have for degrees a serious problem maybe people that tired of fortune and that that of his face while for his way the rivals he says you're gonna hear. he has a little i would say people who i really really strong and put in space i would rather see put in our tired of the absence of political intrigue that is associated with things instability let's see if you permit me changes are we talked about the economic aspect our food this program and here's what the prime minister himself said about the economic challenges russia is facing. the steady growth in russia's wealth in the past decade has largely been due to government policy including the international distribution of the country's commodity pony's oil revenues were used
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to boost people's incomes to pull millions out of poverty we have also ensured that the country had a rainy day savings to support it through prices or disasters but the potential of our commodity based economy is becoming depleted and what's more it has no strategic. do you have an ounce to the question why putin's twelve years at the top were not enough to make russian economy industrial and innovative why. because. this. bill is ation because people wanted. to have. some very prosperity they deal prices seem to be enough. yes yes and that's it yes yes because if you're a man by a. controversial industrialization. in.
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a very very difficult time for russia for soviet union and now people don't want to play displace for the this is a maybe lose news for our audience because if we remember these talents industry is ation of the country was due to the fact. that the communists were ready to go to war with the rest of the world so so today's today's situation means russia is not getting ready to deal with it what is that. so you know in russia it's not a secret fifty percent of our state incomes use money from or than go industry and. we know where a well. the number of employees in this gas and industry is less than one million people less than one million and our population is one hundred forty million people
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that is why it's in my opinion the way important thing that the people was speaking about nucor new for example a call in the media like post industrial world and so on so on the people. take part in this meeting on boldness square. they in my opinion they don't want to work and they don't want to have this new jobs twenty five million of they want to take part in the distribution of resources. that million people you're talking about they do the new work in oil industry but they buy houses built by others they buy cars constructed boilers and there was a powerful organization there sink in the money but in the reality they took this money from oil and gas industry and they want to have more money and they're sinking the his government they're the main reason. good of this incomes. to take but to take them to be spross when we're talking about this for the
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economic part are putin's putin's article i recognize that putin is still using the nineteen ninety s. as sort of a benchmark in order to praise his the years in power is that well it didn't work during it during his first tournament now maybe partly during his second term in power but is it working now to took comparing with the ninety's aren't people today in need of new standards now of growth so i guess it doesn't work it doesn't work yes and. i think. more chance for putin to be in. his opulence because. think of the leaf and the wall to. use to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. in those elections. there are
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a serious problem of our position the main problem in the second you should agree with me that the main problem of two of the putin's years yes is corruption why limit what everybody says and then this is this is something that they couldn't so neither would normally they can't solve the problem why isn't there a single word about corruption in this article i can agree on the partly with your because grab some is not the problem of presence corruption is a problem of russia since piece of this is you're in the last seat of the. right for example that it's really their sole or. you find a lot of facts about the russian for example a nineteenth century that is why it's a serious problem it's not on the it's of course now we see this problem but it's not the problem. which is present that is why it's not so is it to find the solution to this problem but or why you ask me why we can't find some rules about
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corruption and decide to go because in my opinion and we began our program with the first of all which was right all. right something and have some ideas to people on both now square that is where i first thought he was right in about twenty five million of jobs he was trying to speak of them that is why he cannot write about all topics in this article and that is why we see the end of the study go to be continued so this is not the last i go to fight it well as now it will if it's to be continued let's talk about the future here is how formulate the goal of russia in the years to come let's hear it. i see all gold in the years to come and sweeping away all that stands in the way your own national development completing the establishment of russia the political system the stronger of social guarantees and safeguards for the public and an economic model that together form
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a single living ever changing organism state that is at the same time resilient stable and healthy. but is the existing bureaucracy able to to to to make putin's good promise is a reality constantin whatever you say because there's there's no other mechanism than the bureaucracy to realize these goals yes i soon. well there are a lot of expectations that we will see if years from out of changes in our government structures and that is why i hope that we are going to see all the new face of such student is speaking about changing the system so the system will remain the same the sub the song remains the same well. there should be some incentive for the bureaucrats to start changing things other such and really bad. for them you know so i guess the main problem bribe taker schools
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goes for years a absence of dialogue. then put in blames. half the dialogue they don't take part in dialogue but that's the problem of the power of the authorities to thank you thank you very much gentlemen for being with us in just a reminder that my guests in the studio today were political scientists guinea. and constantin sim and that's it for now from politics spotlight will be back with more critical comments from one to going on in and outside russia until then stay on party and take it.
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