hi guys it's time for show and tell and program last week you thought about haley barbour's pardons in mississippi but you caused quite the outcry well barbara may have made some mistakes pardons are meant to be a positive tool to give people who served their time back their rights so do you think the power of power to pardon is under used by governors for the producer for treason essentially to find out what you have to say. the pardon is one of the most powerful tools the head of state has in his or her arsenal at a state level and allows governors who not only for a give a crime but also the respective sentence and also fully reinstate the person's rights such as the right to vote or the right to bear arms it's intended for those who are wrongfully convicted or have served out their debt to society just last week former governor haley barbour caused an uproar when he pardoned over two

hundred prisoners as he left office a majority of which already served their sentence however this list included a number of gray pants and murderers which was a real reason for the outcry so you have to ask how much power should a governor on his way out of office have been deciding the fate of convicted criminals and should other governors be using this power often won't go really fixated considering the u.s. has more than half of the entire world's prison population a prison overcrowding problem to boot governors should definitely extend more pardons to at least nonviolent criminals to help bring down our massive incarceration levels now and political told us the power to pardon is used enough but not properly governors should look to those cases where conviction lacked physical evidence or the evidence was weak but it's enough barbour made some terrible choices now rick pointed out it was definitely underused in the case of tory davis and probably has been for many others who were wrongfully convicted and smith added we might consider pardons as one way to end the prisons out of nine.

violent offenders that would save money for the states who are strapped for cash now barbour defended his pardons by saying that they gave prisons prisoners a transfer job an opportunity to have their rights restored as a citizen the point he seemed to ignore was that while most people do not have a problem granting party they do care about the pardon goes to. now as always we appreciate responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we told you about a new model for college tuition that's being proposed in california but it's just one of many ideas that's being thrown around as a potential solution to the ballooning student debt so what do you think that schools and governments across the country can do to address the exploding student debt let us know on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make. this.

so why are we saying. it's night we have a glimmer of hope when it comes to keeping law enforcement in check so in the past we've told you about countless incidents around the country where police arrested civilians who were trying to film them in action even when it was legal in that state cops are increasingly going after bystanders for attempting to keep the men in blue honest when they're on the job not only have some of the amateur photographers been faced with jail time but on occasion they've been faced with felony charges in the three states where it's actually illegal to film the police those of the massachusetts maryland and illinois however one of these three states just might be changing their ways it consequently protected in illinois under their eavesdropping law which prohibits anybody from recording audio of public conversations without the permission of everybody that's involved in that interaction so anybody who violates that law could face up to fifteen years in prison as you can imagine most illinois police are all in favor of being protected

under the current rules and the fraternal order for eternal or. police backs the law saying that it keeps the public from making baseless accusations against officers and then attempting to back their false claims throughout the videos and i find their fear of baseless claims being made against them a little bit hollow seeing how citizens are the ones that are subject to baseless claims made against them by cops all the time more recording of police to citizen interactions would almost certainly prevent this but it looks as if the cops are only interested in protecting the baseless claims against themselves and not the ones against average citizens we see luckily the recent cases have brought the outdated eavesdropping on to the spotlight take for example illinois resident michael allison hillbillies in action and then was slapped with five felony charges for violating the dropping law each of those five charges could have been met with fifteen years in jail so allison was potentially facing seventy five years behind bars making his crime facing a similar punishment as that of rapists in the state of illinois. at least that's my concern which. for one going to start as it's written

can be interpreted any which way. you know it is right the law doesn't make any sense but allison isn't alone here there are several cases piling up in counties across the state where individuals are taking their cell phone record of encounters with cops to the courts and one state representative is now taking notice democrat elaine neck rates this proposed a bill that would challenge the current standing eavesdropping law making it legal for people to film cops without their consent in an interview with the chicago tribune necker it said i believe that the existing statute is significant intrusion into first amendment rights so that the prosecutions and the court cases that have been reported about it just seem that this is a problem in need of a swift solution so thank god the networks a step forward because there have been far too many and incidents out there where citizens of found themselves in legal trouble for trying to keep cops in check the policing is as the rules like this are in place for officers protection but what about the protection for the public from the police here's a reminder of just

a few incidents where police have been caught on film. behaving improperly to say the least while on duty. i didn't hear surf. don't. fall for. someone i'm leaving and i meet a lot of the. i want to take the form of suicide saying. sorry. i'm allowed to stand in my yard i'm going to i mean it's your time we don't feel safe with you standing right behind them and if you go into the house. it's my right to be in my yard and i'm sorry that you don't feel safe all i have is a camera and clearly wearing nothing i have no weapons no matter what. several of

those incidents across the country that ended in police department taking action against their own officers and despite the fact that there is proof that filming cops is a good thing there are still states that want to keep cops away from the camera lets illinois lawmakers step forward and attempt a change that we think is a true glimmer of hope. now is just the other day that we were talking about the expanding label of terrorism and how it's being applied animal rights activists through the animal enterprise terrorism act we told you at the center for constitutional rights was challenging it in court something that chills the free speech of activists but it turns out the activists aren't the only one of the government is targeting that in these days where the labels of character extremists are thrown around so easily journalists also say so i guess i learned this the hard way after covering a story prosecutors later used his story in court and labeled him an extremist so joining me to discuss this is well potter author of green is the new. well thanks

so much for joining us tonight a lot of thanks for having right give us. a little breakdown of what exactly happened there was a raid that was happening at an animal rights activist home he called you you rush to the scene to go cover this story and then you know where to go from there actually let me back up a little bit ok. there is an animal rights activists in utah named jordan halladay who is subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury which are often used to investigate social movements and force activists to testify about their beliefs and how they refused to testify. in this investigation under the animal enterprise terrorism act which you just mentioned so then flash forward to he was imprisoned once for this and he was imprisoned again all reform refusing to name names in the government's argument so why he should receive such a harsh prison sentence that's where the my story comes into play i had written about this f.b.i. raid of an activist house in utah in the caption on the photo on the website i see it was a photo of receipt from jordan how did this activists prosecutors say the most

damning evidence they have against this guy of how he's associated with extremists is that his name appeared on an extremist website on my site in the photo caption where they were to get this primate have you been labeled an extremist before or did you mention perhaps you said list that the government has looked at you but they're trying to use that to actually convict somebody to put them behind bars my website exclusively focuses on civil liberties and how the war on terrorism is being used to chill free speech and to target animal rights environmental activists as terrorists and what that means for a first amendment rights and it's really unfortunate to me that the f.b.i. would consider something like that to be extremism holding people in power accountable and advocating checks and balances on the government but that's exactly what's going on in the case what's especially troubling to me i mean my name is come up in different court cases and counterterrorism unit documents and things like that but this is a bit different because it's having your work used to get someone. who is facing

the full weight of the government weighing down the problem for asserting his rights and that's what really makes me sick to my stomach to see the f.b.i. manipulated journalism in this way and so i mean that since this is something that all journalists should be concerned about right it's not just if they're reporting on your body and they're looking into the rights activists and civil liberties. that means that all of them somehow their sources could somehow be in jeopardy if they think of the government's going to go after that absolutely i mean really the two things in my opinion you have to have to do meaningful investigative journalism as well and trust with your sources which is paramount into some kind of reasonable confidence that what you write will not be met with retribution or retaliation and this flies in the face of both of those things i mean it instills fear and distrust to anyone who is going to be featured on my website and it makes me worry on a personal level that you know it doesn't feel really good to have your name be

listed as a stream ist in a terrorism court case so in both those fronts i think this is really a threat to freedom of the press and how loosely these terms of extremist terrorist are really applied these days because if you're writing about civil liberties that makes you an extremist then you know it means all of us are in trouble we talk about civil liberties all the time here on the show a number of the of the bloggers and the other journalists that we talk to you are the same way but let's go back to this specific incident to really quick you said that there are a number of assumptions that can be made by the way they used your name in court because you had this photo caption on your website can you explain that for us all part of the reason they said it was extremely website and they were for refer to jordan holiday this way is because i classified what was going on with the target as an f.b.i. raid. the prosecution really took offense to this and i would ask the question take offense because you're just you're not supposed to talk about it have no i don't think you're supposed to talk about it you're certainly not supposed to talk about it as it's happening but i would question what else you're going to call it when

armed agents enter your whole searched. your property take laptops and political documents. to reappropriate property i don't know if a nice way to classify that as a journalist i think a great is a fairly accurate assessment but they really took umbrage at that you know as part of the reason this was listed as extremism all right let's also talk about you know you brought up that george howell here was also prosecuted under the and animal terrorist excuse me animal enterprise terrorism act and there is this lawsuit that right now is going on for the center for constitutional rights it's not going anywhere do you have any updates on it i think it's a really positive exciting development i mean the basis for this lawsuit is that the head of the enterprise terrorism act has expressly outlawed first amendment activity but it's chilled it through examples like this and there are many many more that are much worse than anything that i've experienced personally it's made people worry about their personal safety and their right to express themselves and do things like undercover investigations which have been labeled by the f.b.i. as terrorism so the center for constitutional rights is saying this is

unconstitutional because it's make people afraid of using their rights you know it remains to be seen in this but the national defense authorization act with f.b.i. documents like this with the crack down on the around the country it's hard to know where it will go but we'll have to start fighting back now it's really scary and the absurdity to this and a lot of has terrorism act was that if you by any means. hinder the finances of this company right then you could be prosecuted under it so basically if you're just picketing with a little sign and it was made a joke on the show that says one person is affected you know could they try to use that broadly against you and you heard our business the supporters of the law you know totally dismissed concerns like that when i testified before congress about it become to find out the f.b.i. has investigated undercover investigators just people who are filming what goes on behind closed doors as terrorists so i don't think absurd situations like that are out of the question this is really about protecting corporate profits at the

expense of our first amendment rights. outlaw. in parts of california that's going to run for you this is a little terror. these issues are getting. more and more people care about things like this as this crackdown is taking place about people who actually act on those beliefs well you know it is a lot of really scary developments out there but the good thing is that you haven't been killed by this you know and you haven't been scared away and that you continue to write about it and i think that's what everybody has to turn a list out there have to just keep reporting on these issues and you know not allow themselves to be bullied or intimidated by the government well thanks so much for joining us if you. are coming up tonight one person tied to the american family association is calling on eric holder to get rid of a lot to protect people from being victims of a hate crime is high school time and happy hour things are just campaign might take another hit after one of his ex-wives speaks out in a news interview and in a going to introduce you to one very very very cute little head we can back.

into a little we're new with. the doodle we're going to bring justice for accountability . i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you know here's some other part of it and realized everything. i'm sorry is a big. because

i'm more and less for. the reader to believe the repetition of. what the o.t. seems to know. that never break the face but more of the argument that they're being overly dramatic.

hi guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight he goes to gary glen of the michigan branch of the american family association he's run setter the chris aid to protect those who bully and commit hate crimes commission the anti-gay activists cloaked in the robe of religious freedom have been peddling in state houses across the country now we reported to you about gary's efforts to water down anti bullying legislation with religious exemptions in michigan last year and unfortunately he's not alone in tennessee anti-gay activists are fighting for a provision to be added to a bullying law that exempts a person if they are practicing religious political or philosophical freedom when they bully somebody which basically means anything political philosophical now gary

is trying his luck once again at the courthouse though talking points memo reports that glenn along with three michigan ministers are suing eric holder to overturn federal hate crime protections were created under the two thousand and six law of the matthew shepard and james byrd jr hate crimes protection prevention act so in a moving plea for equality the plaintive evoked in our wally and world where a special class of people example gay people are more equal than others they also argue that the government elevates those engaged in certain deviant behaviors to a special protected class of persons under federal law you know the government always step begin to protect those deviants but i think in my favor argument there is as the bill criminalizes certain ideas beliefs and opinions which is simply not true it was acknowledged the first time that this lawsuit was thrown out in september of two thousand and ten as eric holder stated then the act does not prescribe speech it prohibits only violent conduct and includes specific provisions

and sharing that may not be applied to infringe any rights guaranteed by the first amendment so is the act criminalized hate speech or as glenn described described. thought crimes i'm pretty sure the gary and his cohorts would have thrown in federal prison a long time ago i don't i've been harping on this each time but these stories pop up but what really disgusts me is that gary and his fellow christian act of his claim that the government is creating special protections for gays and homosexuals but then what they actually want instead is for the government to create a special protection for that they want to be able to bully and commit violent crimes and then claim that their religious beliefs entitle them to breaking the law if that's not special treatment but i really don't know what it is just another piece of the narrative the republicans are waving at there's a war on religion. to bigotry question goes both ways and there's a lot more anti-christian bigotry today than there is concerning the other sharks and none of the good thang. if that's not a war on religion i don't know what it is and this is great.

guys i have news for you there is no war on religion there is a long overdue effort by the government to protect those that are discriminated against and yeah that includes the gates so for preaching about the government creating a special class of more equal people while fighting for his own special protections gary glen of the michigan branch of the american family association is tonight's told time with. our guys it's time for happy hour joining me this evening as our key correspondent christine for is out and kevin glass managing editor at townhall thanks for joining guys going to be here all right so yesterday i think it was right before i was going on the show drudge report was saying huge breaking story is going to come out about newt gingrich but everybody is freaking out and it turns out it's just some other ex-wife take a look. at it from the point of view of people looking at those campaign

about character that he's got forgiveness and that he believes that marriage. allegation that would want to dream there was an open marriage she came to her and said i want to stay married to you is to have an affair with close to its current wife. i mean does anybody even find this stuff shocking it's not shocking but i think it's important because he's not only yes he's asked for forgiveness or whatever but this is a person who continues to go on the campaign trail of different stuff and talk about. the things he of marriage the things he of traditional marriage ok so what is traditional about an open marriage if you're going to preach against gay marriage shouldn't you if you are also a marriage after you've been married for a while do you it's like can we change the rules up a little bit they were halfway through that has to be the most revealing thing about this is that no one was surprised you know this mary and sat down for this interview with a.b.c. news it's airing tonight. and you know no one at this point finds newt gingrich's

past sexual behaviors shocking and you know they say it's going to be just i find. they're just noxious and kind of sleazy and he's the guy they claim that he cheated because he loved this country so much it's like you know what i know you want to change things a little tiny bit to have it actually coming from a voice of somebody who he did this to and i think it's too often we are in a game style takedown it'll make for an interesting debate tonight no matter what. your family member how to bring it all right let's move on to somebody else. well back in the good old days he was marking mark where he didn't seem all that tough but i think he thought he was. drugstore a little. more forward you guys know me. to talk to some animals. just going.

i want you for that looks really great. different clip that i was talking to. mark. mark wahlberg so he's had to apologize because in an interview that he gave to men's journal he's talked about how he was supposed to be on one of the flights that actually ended up going into the world trade center on nine eleven and he said if i was on that plane it with my kids it wouldn't have went down like it did there would have been a lot of blood in that first class cabin and then me saying ok we're going to land somewhere safely don't worry if you found this obviously to be completely inappropriate and immediately he had to apologize and you know i find his critics on this to be absolutely correct you know it's kind of thing you know i just like just like. i just i mean lives are going to have people who were all in the plea of course absolutely and i totally see that point of view to hear that oh if marky mark would have been there all of my family members would have still been alive today that is offensive however and perhaps i'm just defending him because of his amazing abs but. when you look back to nine eleven and you think about where we are

now as a society and what we think about if that happened today and somebody started threatening the pilots or the flight attendants any one of us would have done something because we have you know the benefit of hindsight we have the benefit of looking back so i'm sure marky mark just thought oh you know knowing what i know now i would have gotten the whole believe it was or not he's a he's a hollywood actor with no professional brain or even. he gets up in charge of the cockpit he is not going to survive i don't know you know what he actually flipped me off one time driving so i don't think you. know he was driving really slow and so i honked he was blocking the road and he let me off and he was like you know blue bentley so whatever mark mark i think that you're full of crap and good thing that you apologize because that was not a good thing to make ok let's move to this video that really has nothing to do with anything other than this little eight year old girl's really cute.

i had some people are thinking she just might bring heart far back everyone goes through a phase in their lives and she's obviously just going through a metal phase a little early like her lovers she reminds me of a little girl who did super bass and also in a british accent i guess i was a brit i don't know you guys i know it's metal it's still robot cooler though like being able to rap when you're a little kid or being able to i think they're all i think the rapping was more impressive definitely the fast pace that it's coming out that she's you know just screaming along with the words and her dog and her fish is. grew out of the last story really quick so the hill had a report today talking to

a number of lobbying firms are saying they're just licking their chops right now because so far they're already twenty five senators and congress members that are going to be retiring at the end of the year and so they just can't wait to try to scoop these people up there's even somebody say. it's like wine it's a good class it's not a great class of certain things happen it's like wine so they can't wait to go and court these people i thought they had to wait a year. doesn't mean that they can start getting all the all the negotiations they were my story when we on the road crew are going to show up at the high schools of kids when they're in tenth grade to see their skills on the football team and they start making big promises i think what you actually might see is some republicans getting behind some lobbying reform efforts because you see people like peter or zach from the administration going straight to citi group you see people like chris dodd going to be the head of them and then being an incredibly powerful voice in the debate over saying he wouldn't lobby exactly yeah well hopefully maybe toledo

calls will outrage i got to wrap it up that's about as long as you know how washington works for sarah true very true thanks for joining me that's it for a night show you guys thanks for tuning in make you connect tomorrow with the third anniversary of obama taking office and the second anniversary of citizens united all talk about that coming up next. wealthy british style. that's what i'm trying. to target. markets why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cons or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars

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hello i'm going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture new it is in the doghouse tonight a.b.c. is airing what they're calling an explosive interview with newt gingrich's ex-wife that they imply could blow the roof off his campaign this is really responsible journalism also mitt romney loves to dodge questions but now he's being accused of dodging something a little more serious what's he trying to avoid now and what impact might it have on the.