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very suddenly the military regime said ok ok we'll have elections in june of two thousand and thirteen so i think even if there is this sort of tacit alliance between the brotherhood and the regime which i'm not sure we can really say i also think there's still a lot of space in egyptian society for people to go back to here and some of the other squares across egypt and press the regime and if necessary press the brother to press the brotherhood on some of these issues you know bradley if i can be kind of change gears here i mean i was reading some interesting analysis about the revolution when you're on and one writer put it this way is that you know the people that started this revolution they have themselves to blame because all they had one demand is getting getting rid of mubarak and that was more or less that and once you got that you didn't have any leaders you didn't really have an agenda and this is one of the reasons why the revolution has drifted because you have other forces that have come into play waiting out departure and then they can fill the gap because as we know the muslim brotherhood was supportive of the protesters but they weren't really involved and they made sure that there were no religious
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banners on the square and things like that they played a very low profile. role in all of this and now we see things have changed very differently the liberal parties did very badly in the election so it's still very much a wild card where this can go and we may be more than anything else we'll see a form of islamic democracy and not a liberal democracy. well look you can fool some of the people some of the time if if there is a deal being made by the military and accommodation it's got to be one that the people except the people have tremendous distrust of the military and if the military doesn't stand down and not to let the political parties and the and the power of the political parties and power rise to the occasion and the people feel that they're being governed by a civilian authority i think they're going to be more protests so i think the muslim brotherhood are fooling themselves if they can make an accommodation with the military that the people will reject they have
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a golden opportunity now they had free and fair elections to get where they are today if they have free and fair elections for president they're well on their way to having a stable secure and friendly government not just to the west but to all freedom loving countries and so the ball is in their hands but the military cannot be the person behind the curtain the people of egypt won't stand for it. david you know in looking at it and one public opinion poll result after another one of the most unpopular countries in egypt today is the united states because of its role in dealing with the dictator ship dictatorship for thirty years that's not changing either that hasn't changed since the the revolution a year ago if the muslim brotherhood and other islamic that were elected if they follow the people's will it will be a very chilly relationship with the united states and as we brought up earlier possibly revoking the peace treaty with israel. sure well i mean you know some of
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the most iconic images from from the revolution are protesters picking up tear gas canisters and seeing you know the made in america and that sort of emblematic of the kind of military support that the u.s. gave to egypt over the years i think if you step back from public opinion and you look at what happened after the revolution started you could make an argument that american leverage played a role in getting mubarak to step aside but i don't think we should expect that to be this sort of like dominant paradigm in egypt the we do have a very we are held in very low esteem our foreign policy not americans themselves but the foreign policy is held in very low esteem and i don't think that really going to change until something changes on the israeli palestinian front. and that's not something that the u.s. can control in egypt it's not something that the brotherhood can really do anything about that's a larger geo strategic issue that's really dragging down american popularity
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throughout the region because we are i think rightly seen as backing the israelis even though i mean there's a much chillier relationship between the obama administration and israel right now still the sort of basic contours of that relationship are still there it's very obvious to egyptians and the big thing is that egyptians no longer want to be complicit in forcing this bargain you know they don't want to be complicit in shutting off the gaza strip and blockading it they want to see their leadership take a bit more of an independent stance towards the united states and towards the israelis . and i think if that happens you might see some of your resentment offered to you know last year dissipated just a bit go ahead bradley jump in. ok number one is the egyptians have to realize they have enough problems of their own they shouldn't be straying into bilateral relations and causing fights and disruptions beyond their own borders they have an internal struggle now and they should they should work
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within before looking with out number two is how are they going to react with iran and their threats to close the straits of hormuz are they going to inject themselves in matters that are really extraneous to their own position and number three if the united states wants to ingratiate themselves with the egyptian people what they've got to do is we've got to offer humanitarian aid we've got to offer loans and services to the egyptian people and not so much you know up the government but i'm very much you think on their side you know and we wish nothing but the best for them now but well i don't i think most egyptians don't believe that ok after thirty years it's hard for them to believe that the last twelve months hasn't changed and i think that's why we've got a lot of work to do you know a lot of. what are these real intentions if you just leave egypt alone completely and let them decide for themselves let them decide their own foreign policy if they want to tear up the peace treaty with israel i shall be there in the future saying there is an object ourselves it should be there it is politics but there's
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a lot of humanitarian relief that we can help on and that's the kind of work we should be doing ok well i mean if i could stay with you bradley i mean the eight i think you are i think you know it is the right right now it's david jumping ahead so i mean the reality is right now it's not it's not going to be strictly humanitarian aid because there's a real there's a real concern about what's going to happen with the peace treaty and things like that and i think if the brotherhood were to take power and win the presidency of this would be a real test of the degree to which the military is still exerting its control through some kind of invisible hand in the background and i think any extent to which the us the scene is cooperating with the military behind the scenes. to prevent elected leadership from making foreign policy changes is definitely not going to do anything for our popularity i think no matter how much humanitarian aid we send the reality is that these larger issues related to israel palestine are always going to trump whatever we do on the ground because those will be more
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micro-level initiatives and they won't get the same kind of press attention so i agree that we should be doing that but on the other hand i think that we do have to allow the new elected leadership to kind of steer its foreign policy maybe not into a into a direction where we're going to have a confrontation over israel but in a way to allow that government to flex its independence to show the egyptian people that they are in fact in charge of their own affairs and that they're not like the u.s. as a lackey and so some way shape or form i think that's really important just for the just for the optics just for the theatricals to allow the egyptians the space to control their for their foreign policy because this is not just about the u.s. this goes back to british control this goes back to two hundred years of feeling like the egyptian people don't have control of their own foreign policy radley thank you go to you what do you think about that because if we go back to the peace agreement with that with israel it seems to be either logic it's the other way around because of hard times because of the economy can be very easy for any
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government to say you know look over there you know let's help the palestinians and that would you know focus people's attention and in and release of frustration and again helping the palestinians in gaza is a very very popular issue among the average egyptian that's how it could turn out. well look if they decide to look beyond their own borders and not solve their own problems they're going to have a lot of problems because we're going to stand united states four square with israel that's the way it's going to be and if we have to deliver any message to the military or the new political leadership is that message is that if egypt has a choice to make are they going to start to solve their own problems are they going to get involved in other people's problems or have their own get or have their own foreign policy clear three palestinians to have their rooms or more israel then they're going to have a real problem with us well maybe the average egyptian wouldn't have a problem with having that kind of problem ok david i'm going to give you the last word although you know the way things were they've done it before i mean i think
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that with a rock and a hard place here. the rock and a hard place here right is that the u.s. i think does have an interest in the language options to exert some control over their own foreign policy but if if if they go too far in the eyes of the united states administration in the eyes of the west you might see some of this the funding that's desperately needed in egypt that might dry up you know so the elected leadership of egypt is going to have this a real difficult choice to make about how far to push this independence and foreign policy i do think that you're going to see a change in tone and i think that elected leadership is going to push back against american foreign policy and israeli foreign policy and he's going to be run out of time. many thanks to my guest today in washington and in chicago and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time and remember.
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the world's top whistle blower to get others to spill his beans on t.v. as julian assange and his own interview show stand by to watch. president obama kicks off his campaign to stay in the white house using the state of the nation address to pledge saving the economy and to create jobs. back on to rear square thousands of egyptians gathered some up a year since the uprising but it's frustrating along with celebration because of drug reform.
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a level unseen since the great depression the top one percent of wealthiest in the country are making a killing while the middle class is shrinking dramatically and that is getting wider american jobs are being outsourced to other countries president obama's state of the union speech sounded motivational full of good intentions but the fact that almost all his major economic initiatives got bogged down in congress like the jobs act that he put forward last year is giving a sense to many that he might be saying all the right words but they may not be necessarily followed by demons on the foreign policy front he ran on promises to end wars but while he pull troops out of iraq and started winding down the war in afghanistan with a pledge to bring all troops home by two thousand and fourteen america's wars didn't stop president obama bombed levy last year to the tune of bringing about democracy also the u.s. may now be on the verge of an all out confrontation with iraq and in the speech he once again said all options are on the table washington is now actively building up
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its military presence in the persian gulf region new u.s. drone bases are popping up in the arabian peninsula so we see that while president obama went through with the promises to scale back on the record of ghana's that he's been actively building up a platform for possibly new wars president obama certainly prides itself on his role in killing osama bin laden and a number of other terrorists but the means by which the u.s. is going about the task of chasing down terrorists raises a lot of red flags so some experts argue that what washington is doing is fighting terror and provoking terror at the same time but in president obama's presentation everything sounds just great on the war on terror front. he's going to introduce kind of porting right still to come here for you in the program keeping the business world's top tier ticking along with the world economic elite set out to tackle the eurozone recession and make some profit along the way while those at worst hit by financial troubles find themselves of lockdown.
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thousands of egyptians are in cairo's now iconic therea square to mark a year since the uprising that toppled president mubarak it's also a landmark day for another reason that's almost thirty years of emergency rule is partially lifted although some keep police powers will stay in place at least in eastern hour who is in cairo says ongoing anger is dampening the anniversary euphoria. activists here actually a warning people that have come out not to let those turn into a celebration because according to them not very much has changed within the last twelve months in fact many of them say that they feel that their revolution has been hijacked that the military is still in power like you said thousands if not tens of thousands of people on talk earlier just as there was exactly a year ago when this revolution began and were expecting more people to come through out the day because what's happening is marches are gathering around the city cargo of course an enormous city millions of people and they're expected to
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all make their way to talk here by this evening and really what i'm hearing i've been here a lot this here is a lot more anger today than i've heard at any of the other posts so-called protests which we have seen very often on the streets of cairo and throughout egypt since the the fall of mubarak people here saying that their initial goal was to have the regime fall and that is still their goal because the army is still in power my colleague reeva notion has been talking to people and taking a closer look at why people feel the revolution is still very much alive. a year off to its historic revolution in egypt is far from calm protests have become a part of everyday life and no longer have any event one of the revolutions and a significant achievement of. what could never believe would come out and speak out like this there are several reasons for egypt's people to take out to the streets
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following the op rise in the house of mubarak last february the country's economy is struggling unemployment at its highest in decades and while the newly elected islam is dominated parliament debate the country's future resentment grows against men to rule and the feeling they hijacked the revolution is a village and we want them to do what the military should do it protect its citizens and the country was going to know what he doesn't want to be sure the. they will not destroy our solutions achievements they betrayed us. the military dominated egypt's politics since the fall of the monarchy sixty years ago some skeptics say the twenty eleven revolution did little to change this trend. when mubarak toppled down people vulcan's the supreme council of the armed forces to lead the transition but the initial euphoria began to fade when the military council was still in place six months later after one bloody crackdown on peaceful
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protesters after another claiming at least eighteen lives tober there isn't any doubt left here scaf should go i believe that they're there i mean and i i believe that we don't want them anywhere here in this chair that's what i believe in the words and that's what most of what all i know believe and the work whatever as these are works and discard are scared because he blew in arabic or army lawyers contain they worked through the army's wrongdoings between our female activists attacking field hospitals and conspiracy theories under the military council twelve thousand people have been brought to military trials that are against less than two thousand in the dark thirty years. claim it and leave when the new president is elected in june but if you believe the promises that once were broken so easily some also fear that the generals may stay on behind the scenes reluctance to
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relinquish their power they've had for decades with protests to show them to leave one thing is clear the fight is not yet over grief notion r.t. cairo. and i do head over to r.t. dot com for the latest from egypt as well as thoughts on what the revolution has really brought but here's what else we have for you standing by right now on our web site at three dot com the u.s. tightening the noose around net freedom for former spy chief has come clean about cyber snooping even digital attacks on other countries. and another region could be roped into america's possible campaign against iran with suspicions that georgia's president might join in to keep his job and u.s. support on the side for more go on to dot com. as the world's business top brass descend on switzerland some of the so-called one percent are saying capitalism is widening the pit of inequality but the economic elite from
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around forty nations at the davos economic forum are out to save the financial system stem the crisis and of course seal a few lucrative deals lauren lyster is at the ski resort for us where she also met a few locked out of the talks. it's certainly on the agenda talk of remodelling capitalism debate about capitalism and they can talk all they want though you have to wonder how serious people are about that discussion when many of the corporations that are present here are those that have benefited from this this type of capitalism so although klaus schwab the founder of the world economic forum has said that capitalism in its current form has no place in the world around us these are the corporations and banks that are represented here many of which have benefited from government bailouts in the case of banks from central bank easy money policies in the case case of many banks and corporations so whether or not these are the right people to be having that conversation to be talking about
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reform i'm not quite sure you also have to remember that while the official genet agenda yes deals with capitalism the unofficial agenda of davos is very much about making corporate deals and that might in fact the official agenda as you can probably recall some corporations here shell out up to three hundred thousand dollars for a membership to the world economic forum in order to be here they're shelling out that kind of money presumably for more than to talk about capitalism there have been reports in the past every year of the deals that go on the networking of this some sixteen hundred business leaders including a thousand executives they're here at davos some of these sessions dealing with remodelling capitalism specifically talk about the occupy movement is identifying some of these problems with capitalism that they're supposed to be talking about here at this forum bailouts inequality those being some of the issues however none of the occupy activists have been invited they're building igloos not too far from where the davos forum is taking place they're very much highlighting this occupy
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movement that is swept the globe klaus schwab was asked about that he said it's hard to identify a leader that was his excuse we're not likely to see them here unless of course mr schwab himself goes down to those igloos and maybe recruits a few so that we do hear those voices inside the fore. he's lorna's to reporter there from davos i want you without saying it's quarter past the hour russia's president said he's willing to meet with opposition members including representatives of those who protested against what they call the unfair parliamentary vote to me treatment here to force our promise that an exciting political season will follow the upcoming presidential elections let's not get more bitter out of our standing by a central moscow theater so it sounds like a pretty open agenda that president here first set out there take us through the highlights of what he had to say. well one of the main points that president medvedev made today was this well he really isn't done with politics just yet now of course he will step down in the role of president in march after the present new
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presidential elections but he has said he hinted that perhaps he could appear on the ballot paper again going to see me office now. that to me a putin has said should he be elected as president in march his elections then he will make to me to get if his prime minister something which may get if they accept it no if it is has said that no matter what happens in the elections in march he will remain in politics he's only forty six years old very relatively young in terms of the political game so it's going to be around for a while yet is basically what he was saying now he also said that he was willing to meet with the leadership of the opposition leadership and the leaders behind protests which took place following the parliamentary elections we saw in december here in russia now he said he wasn't willing to meet with individual protesters but that organizes those people behind the protests that he was willing to sit down with them and discuss their grievances. this was an address by the president to
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a group of journalism students at a moscow university plenty of things that were being discussed one of them was the case of. the president saying that the holocaust the case shouldn't become a political football it shouldn't be politicized. and also dismissed rumors they've been circulating that last summer he had planned to release the jailed tycoon he said there is no truth in that whatsoever now because these were journalism students that he was speaking to and the subject of journalism and the media did crop up president medvedev saying that there was too many state owned television stations in russia and that they really need to cut down the number of those perhaps only having worn as the mouthpiece of the government and to have more private television companies and more private news stations in the country. central moscow thank you.
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