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will the new ship for america does not give me freedom or give me death give me liberty or give me death as in the past it's give me security at any cost and that's why we have legal positions like we came up we came up with in the first bush administration to excuse torture that's why we have legal positions to excuse avoiding due process and killing americans on simply the command of the president because we are so frightened and so scared and so lacking resilience in this country today that our raghead terrorist ten thousand miles away scares us to the bottom of our feet and we have to do these sorts of things and it's ten years later now and we're still doing it and you're still going to cast your vote for obama despite the fact that there was no. what's the choice and i refused to do like some of my friends are doing and this is going to hurt the president and say i'm not going to the polls i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. i thought of
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a personal response to an attack made by al jazeera and it's the latest chapter in the government after the break we're going to discuss the obama administration's that late for. sure is that so much. more. business a year on the revolution that used to be spearheaded appears to install the military rulers who replacement. technology innovation all the developments around russia we've got the future covered. over the weekend a story aired on al jazeera english is program the listening post hosted by richard
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gilbert that's a show that does media critique and this particular episode spoke about r t and yours truly so let's just say that i have a few things to say in response to this piece here's the gist of the point that they were trying to make. english language project is getting mixed reviews its criticism of washington and the ways of the west is relentless. are mixed reviews that's fair everybody is entitled to their own opinion but then they get to me. russian born american educated in the. twenty six year old host of the alyona show he's more than happy. to lend back. doughboy. who sounds so sinister russian born american educated i'm clearly some sort of kremlin plant sent to the united states to learn the ways of the west only to turn them against it when i come of age i actually moved here and i was for an american citizen not only was i educated here he spent almost my entire life in the us and i
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am just an american not to mention and yes i will nit pick here i'm not twenty six yet what we enjoyed our last week of twenty five all you people but back to the hilarious style of their attack what if we did the same thing what if we turn the tables on richard gilbert fired by a.b.c. for refusing to cover the u.s. led invasion of iraq he was then hired by qatari funded al-jazeera that's kind of sounds a little bit sketchy to you but it turns out that it's really not sketchy because gives birth spent years working for a.b.c. only to refuse to cover the iraq war because he had small children so then he was fired sued for wrongful termination and he won and then he was hired by al jazeera but if i say everything in these really vague terms then his career too can sound very very sinister but let's get back to what he said about me as are we not shying away from picking a fight not really sure why that would be showcased as a negative in fact i thought that's what journalists opinion we're all supposed to do what i would really like to see in this piece is for them to take some of my relentless criticism that gives birth talks about with my face on the screen behind
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them and actually show it and talk about that i would welcome then to pick some welcome them to pick something that i've said about the actions of the u.s. government and the members of both parties which are unfair or untrue and stead they picked a clip of me talking crap on when back was i being a little bit hyperbolic even absurd yeah but guess what that's all we do here on this show and i was speaking of al-jazeera being apparently confused about me having fun or being over the top they end the entire piece with a clip from our hallway and show. there's that was total seriously what's not. we are in the mainstream. it's her hollowing show you get it it's fake it's sad to hire for them to use a show of a clip of a parody show where word costume always the entire hour play that a newsgroup think of r d i think is disingenuous when leveling such serious criticism on me as a person or two as a channel they simply chose to use the clip to push the agenda that they wanted
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which is the r.t. is silly and should be ignored just like me now perhaps if they would have reached out to me for some comment on the piece since i was going to be featured so prominently could have informed them that from time to time yeah we do funny skits and parodies on the show we delve into the outrageous we have fun and we laugh but apparently richard gives birth thinks that. i would strongly disagree. we have today the justice department charged former cia agent john kiriakou with disclosing classified information to journalists about the capture and enhanced interrogation or as we call it torture of members of al qaeda of suspected al qaeda members to members of the press and the criminal complaint specifically accuses kiriakou of disclosing the identity of a cia analyst and the charges against him include two counts under the espionage act of one nine hundred seventeen so that makes it now the sixth time that the obama administration is going after somebody with charges of espionage the others include cases that we've discussed on this program like thomas drake bradley
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manning james rising and others so to put it in perspective for you before this administration there were only three such cases in history so what is all this tell us about how justice under obama is applied joining me to discuss it is marcy wheeler blogger at mt weil dot net marcy thanks for joining us tonight let's figure a little background quickly if you can we don't have a whole lot of time tonight but i guess you could say that in two thousand and seven is when people really got to know about john kiriakou who came out said that he was on one of the lead capturing teams he detailed. enhanced interrogation or waterboarding at the time and basically said that he supported it but then where does this story come in with him leaking cia analysts names their identities to the press. yeah at that point everyone thought he was just spreading propaganda for the cia because he was putting the best spin on the on waterboarding just as the whole destroyed tape thing came out but the allegations do go back to that same time period two thousand and seven two thousand and eight and ultimately what d.o.j.
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was investigating is how some get most detainees found out the identities of people who were on the torture teams one of them was martina's the other one nobody disclosed his identity yet. kiriakou has been charged with leaking it anyway and so they went back and tried to figure out how these detainee lawyers found out and ultimately curious who is the one source that they came up with. and they you know they partly pointed to a new york times article that may have been investigated two thousand as well but you know one of the things that they're arguing is that syria who lied about a technology called magic box which not only has been out there for decades but is widely used is used by our local police station and so they're suggesting the curia was lying to the cia to be able to publish about this because
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it was classified only it's not classified and so now we're going back to court on something like that now as i mentioned this is the sixth time that we've seen the obama administration try to go after somebody by using the espionage act do you see they do think that is fair and in this case at all was he aiding the enemy by a by putting out a cia analyst name perhaps to the press well i mean again that this all started because these detainee lawyers had identified the people who had tortured their clients. so the question is not is it ok for scott shane to report about just martina's who was involved in kid a sense torture what they were really after was is it ok for lawyers to know what happened to their clients when they were in u.s. custody and the government is basically saying no it's not ok we didn't tell them we weren't going to tell them you know our torture must be secret even from the
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people who got tortured as to the scotch erica which is the only one that the only public mention that they're prosecuting curiosity for you know it does martinez was not a covert person his peers his identity was not covert they wanted to hide the fact that he had been involved in politics muhammad's interrogation but you know it's they also wanted to hide the fact that he was working for mitchell and justin who are the architects of the really failed torture program in this country and i think we as americans have a right to know that kind of stuff yeah you know and there were some a dozen jokes made out there today just about how ironic and unfortunate and sad it is that we finally have some kind of an investigation or some kind of a prosecution going on that involves waterboarding or that involves torture unfortunately it's just the guy that decided to speak out about speak out against it instead of anybody that was actually involved or that gave those orders there you know i want to ask another thing too how can we compare you know the fact that
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nobody high ranking right has gone in trouble for waterboarding. for the enhanced interrogation program and here we have this case versus the marine staff sergeant who yesterday who was involved in the the massacre where twenty four civilians were massacred in iraq turns out that the maximum prison sentence he's going to serve is only three months. right and obama's about to do a state of the union address where he's going to where he purportedly is going to size accountability and around the world that's what accountability means in america three months for somebody who massacres twenty four mostly women children old men verses nothing for the people who are torturing you know definitely some al qaeda people but also some people who had no ties to al qaeda that's what american accountability has become anything else that you expect the president to say during his state of the union tonight you know maybe talking about accountability and you
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know some of his civil liberties records no no he's going to boast about killing osama bin laden and everyone's going to holler and and that will be as close to a discussion about i think his counterterrorism policies as we get. a feeling that you're right thanks so much for joining us tonight thanks for having me. all right coming up next the supreme court weighs in on the government using g.p.s. devices to track you and last night a g.o.p. candidate weighed in on the debate find out what exactly. wealthy british science it's time. to. market.
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find out what's really happening to the global economy because a report on. this is kevin and updating the top stories tonight live from moscow tens of thousands of egyptians are back home tahrir square to mark a year since the uprising that toppled president mubarak's thirty year rule but it's frustration along with celebration because of the dragging before. president obama kicks off his campaign to stay in the white house using his state of the union address to pledge saving the economy he stresses. promised millions of new
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jobs but critics say it's up big doesn't reflect reality. and the world's top whistle blower to get others to spill the beans on t.v. as. his own interview show right here on our t.v. there we can leaks founder expose some of the world's darkest secrets in his new series is set to premiere on this channel in march. i'll be back with the news in full in thirty minutes but handing you over now again to washington d.c. and the show. hi guys it's time for show and tell on tonight's program last week we told you about a new model for college tuition that's being proposed in california as one of the many ideas that are being thrown around as a potential solution to the ballooning student debt bubble so we asked what do you think that schools and governments across the country can do to address that sort
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of producer for treason to send you to find out what you have to say. while the governor of california wants to shift a two point four billion dollars of the state budget from classrooms to other spending and raise university tuition missouri governor jay nixon wants to reduce funding to universities by twelve point five percent and as as universities not to hike up to wish it now states are continuing to take away funding for public universities all while student loan debt now reaches more than one trillion dollars now students in california came up with an idea to turn to the notion of college tuition on its head when you see this before go to wishin is the pay five percent of earning income for the next twenty years after they graduate now this sort of innovation got us thinking what else could states do to deal with the growing debt bubble as money for education continues to dry up and let's see what our viewers had to say for alan thompson he said how about corporate sponsored scholarships the one percent has all the money let them pay for the employee degrees now occupy wall
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street thomas told us the money used to fund our wars could be used to fund to wish him instead and cindy free said remove all interest and fees on every student loan back to the original mt then kept the interest and fees for life with a look now everyone seems to agree someone radical needs to do something to ease the pressure on college students and graduates in an already bad economy let's just hope lawmakers are ready and willing to listen. now as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next question for you for the show we spoke to colonel lawrence wilkerson about the g.o.p. presidential candidates and their views on cuba with the lone exception of ron paul they are all in favor of maintaining sanctions and travel restrictions on the country so what do you think is the time that we lift sanctions on cuba but on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make you know me. well yesterday the supreme court weighed in on the latest fourth amendment case to come before that and one of the most important also see back in november the
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justices agreed to hear a case involving the federal government placing g.p.s. trackers on the cars of people with interest of interest without obtaining a warrant now we've spoken at length about this issue here on the show something that we see as a clear fourth amendment violation and we've also spoken about the disturbing trend of police violating people's rights to privacy and in many cases getting the courts on their side take for example the case of yasser the he's a muslim american who found one of these truckers on his car and immediately suspect that the government was keeping tabs on him for no other reason than his heritage makes me feel like they're treating me like a terrorist or criminal and there are giving me my my rights as an american citizen and i was born and raised here so i feel different and nice feeling. now yasir is case is different than the one that was heard by the supreme court this specific case united states versus jones revolves around a suspected cocaine dealer that was being tracked over an extended period of time so attorneys for jones said that his conviction should be thrown out because the
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feds attached the g.p.s. tracker outside of the initial warrant period of twenty eight days that was when the government could legally follow jones to use appeals courts came up with different decisions for the supreme court ruled that the use of a g.p.s. device to monitor one suspects car over an extended period of time qualifies as a search under the fourth amendment so in other words the government's desire to track somebody for a long period of time is classified as a search which under law requires a. warrant all nine justices were in agreement on this decision but with different reasons on why they why they came to that outcome justice scalia explained the majority opinion that electronic surveillance if achieved without trespassing on the suspected person's property could count as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy but here's the part that really bugs me he goes on to say that the present case doesn't require the justices to answer that question so yeah this is good news but really we were hoping the justices would take this opportunity to weigh in on the constitutionality of the use of the tracking device itself sadly it looks like
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they took the easy way out opting not to decide if the trackers and are an unlawful invasion of a person's right to privacy but rather saying that in this instance specifically it constitutes a search let's look at a small victory here and the slap in the face of this ruling brings the obama administration they justify the questionable tracking techniques and defended their actions based on an one nine hundred eighty three court case where the supreme court allowed the government to use trackers without a warrant for one single trip but this time around the justices agreed that the government was overstepping their bounds because they were tracking the suspect twenty four hours a day for twenty eight days straight now before you get too excited about the ruling despite its weakness you will have a lot of disappointing news for your privacy from a court out of colorado for you tomorrow so let's just say that passwords are no longer all that safe. and he sees a republican debate last night that once again heard a lot about the issue of immigration only at this debate we heard a little less about building a gigantic fence to keep everyone out and
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a little bit more about getting those that are already here out and then mitt romney throughout this word. the answer is self deportation which is people decide that they could do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal documentation to allow them to work here and so we're not going to round people up. now self deportation in and of itself sounds a little bit like an oxymoron but a lot of people say that it's a term that describes the gold states across the country right now where draconian immigration laws have been passed like arizona or alabama making life so hard for undocumented immigrants that they voluntarily lee joining me to discuss this is axel cover arrow founder and producer of when to me a brave new foundation campaign for joining us tonight and i guess let me hear your definition of what exactly self deportation is. well i think first promos most people right now are kind of scratching their heads trying to figure out what
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exactly is deportation this is something that just came out of the blue as far as his campaign is a new policy reversal if you can call that policy it's kind of ludicrous to just think that it's out of nowhere twelve million undocumented folks are going to stand up and say we're going to leave this country you know this is not for us anymore so so i think that that's the main first point the second point to that is that really what it is what it sounds to be is more of a code word to just not do anything to leave it up to right now the policies that are happening throughout the states the vacuum that has caused arizona to enact as between seventy or to try to enact as between seventy and the policy that has allowed private prison corporations to fund local particularly pieces of legislation so that they would benefit out of the incarceration of immigrants i think that that is the main thing behind this new policy reversal and make it sound
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as if he's soft and his stance on immigration when in reality it's a big you know it's a term that really doesn't say anything. as far as we're concerned well you know i also like to jeffrey's over mother jones basically called this the conservative trifecta because she said that has this free market free will sort of sound to it at the same time it could reduce deportation costs of people are living on their own and it really you know emphasizes the states passing their own legislation that tries to push on documented immigrants out and they don't even need the federal government involved either so it kind of makes sense that they try to just use this this word that sounds flowery but really i mean isn't this you know if you look at some of the laws that are being passed in alabama and arizona it's about scaring people to right to the point where they're afraid to sign their children for school or they might be afraid to take them to the hospital if your citizenship is going to be checked all the time. that's is you're right and i think what is even more
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mind boggling is that this is precisely what he's been advocating whether candidate romney and a lot of the other campuses well they have been advocating for the very first and second degree should pretty much along the lines of what alabama would arizona would be utah would georgia were to. the primary moves into latino states like florida or new mexico and now something we've the stance is well it's really self deportation we're on no no no no no doubt so let me cut you off really quick too because we're running out of time a little bit but we have yesterday on our show we showed mitt romney's new spanish language ad where he's trying to appeal to hispanic voters and so here i thought one of the moderators last i asked a very good questions to look. all of the favor making english the official language of the united states which could mean that ballots and other government documents would not be available in spanish but speaker gingrich you're sending out
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press releases and spanish us governor romney you're advertising in spanish why is it ok for you to court voters and spanish us but not ok for the government to serve them and spanish. right so those beth reinhard we didn't have a show yesterday that was by mental love there but romney does have this spanish language ad out right now if it were his sons talking about it and i think that she brings up a really good point you know i mean are latino voters going to buy that if you start putting out spanish language ads. well that's that's essentially what is happening right now with all the campaigns where they take a hard stance because they're going for the base they're trying to mobilize their folks and then when it's time to reach out of the constituency that actually would need to reach out the folks that are really important in this election then you know they change they change the language they reach out in different language and they try to adapt to pretty much what the campaign should be in the first place so
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i think that there's a disconnect and we're seeing that and i think the team electorate as the rest of the country is pretty smart is very smart i would say and be thinking recognize we can recognize that sometimes these words are just political words is more a politician sane or trying to say well what the constituents want to hear what we really want to know is exactly what the proposals are going to be throughout the campaign and have a clear positions of the those proposals but let me play you something that rick santorum said last night which is very much a big republican talking point. not sure if we have it. bottom line is if you do inforce the law and say they say. ok we can play right now fortunately but rick santorum basically is going on with this line that everything you do if
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you ever if you enter this country illegally initially even everything you do from then on is an illegal act anywhere you might work at a school that you might attend and you know how do you counter that kind of that kind of a statement. well it's very hard to counter because there's already this stigma that has been created as far as what the word illegal means and what these actions are but let's start first and foremost from the understanding of the reasoning why folks migrate here and it's not because they want to commit crimes you know having a job is not a crime particularly working for fours for a living to to have a better life that's not a crime and so i think that that is absolutely a disconnect with reality as far as what they are trying to to perch re-ask illegal behavior what is reality is happening a crime are c.e.o.'s that are really you know. robbing the american people right now with all these bailout stuff they were going to see in the state of the union
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a crime is a murder or a particular actual crime that is happening as is stated in our laws good behavior just because of the act of migrated over here and that that behavior anything that you do becomes illegal it becomes a crime that is essentially what the problem is in this dialogue is that it has become so so polarized and so amazingly detrimental to the public discourse that is presenting a problem as far as really finding solutions to move this immigration debate for now we'll have to see what the president says tonight in a state of the union on immigration because i can't imagine that he's going to ignore it specially not in this election year at something so much for joining us tonight. thanks so much for. i just ahead tonight identify sun friends taking a fight with occupy d.c. try to find out insightful time and happy hour with donald creative advertising method that fires on them and rick santorum just loves weighing in on women's
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rights issues and dealt with all that welcome back. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. the you.
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guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and we're giving it to congress and more specifically members of the house oversight and government reform. committee the after giving members of the occupy d.c. movement the initial ok mayor vincent gray and the national park service have decided that this four month long protest has lasted long enough but that wasn't enough for representative darrell issa he had his powerful subcommittee called in
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d.c. police chief cathy lanier and the national park service amongst others to figure out why the protesters were able to circumvent the district's ban against camping in a federal park so members of the committee hint that they'll question the park services decision making process and possibly mayor vincent gray has changed his views on the cabinet seems that gray has taken a cue from mitt romney going back on his original support encouragement to call me curious and dangerous and a serious sanitation problem now usually that would be a city issue is a city issue the mayor has spoken but no you see percent reason congress wants to get involved here which is actually quite rare as usually they don't really delve into local d.c. governance issues they continue to overlook serious issues in the past like the shocking aids epidemic where one of the highest rates of aids rates of aids and hiv in the entire country disease department of health says that seven percent of d.c. residents between the ages of forty and forty nine are infected which is three times what the world health organization classify.

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