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night after obama's state of the union address we heard the republican response delivered by governor mitch daniels we haven't heard a tea party response by herman cain but how do members of the occupy movement feel after all the president definitely use some of the rhetoric of battling inequality and corruption but he never mentioned the protests or actions specifically so joining me from our studio in new york to discuss it is jesse greco activist and writer jesse thanks for coming back on the show tonight i want to start off by playing a clip where i feel like obama really picked up on on some of the things the occupy wall street has been preaching for us take a listen. we don't begrudge financial success in this country we admire it. when americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes it's not because they envy the rich it's because they understand that when i get a tax break i don't need and the country can't afford it either adds to the deficit

or somebody else has to make up the difference like a senior on a fixed income or a student trying to get through school or family trying to make ends meet. jesse do you think that we would have heard that exact you know paragraph or statement from the president had the occupy movement not sprung up in the last year oh certainly not i think it's pretty obvious to most people in politics that occupy wall street still has a winning message because it addresses the concerns of average people have people don't want to have to sacrifice for a disaster they didn't create and they sure don't want to if the rich guy who made the mess is unwilling to sacrifice anything himself so i think the president is wise to speak in those terms because it really connected that person on the street but however he didn't you know refer to occupy wall street or the occupy movement specifically didn't talk about any of the protests or any of the targeted actions

that we've seen around the country but to make that. well i think the way that some members of the media perceived by wall street slandered us would kind of give it a negative thing at the same time i don't want the president telling us how great things occupy wall street i just want him to do his job and when it comes to the simple math that if we're going to cut taxes for the rich it's going to come out of the budget somewhere else then it's not a democratic or republican issue at all it's not tea party or occupy wall street if you cut taxes for the rich you're going to decrease revenue and that's going to generate a deficit and that's more than simple math that really does goes totally beyond politics altogether i what about some of the other things that he proposed for example right creating this unit to look into bad mortgages the result before the housing crisis happened i'd say that that's a good development but it's about time right it's three years in. to me i would want to see too little too late but it's about time to say the very least you know the thing is this is one of those areas where we do have regulatory overlap it

might not be necessary to start a new commission even though i admired my own new york attorney general eric schneiderman who's going to be leading that organization we really have a regulatory body like that it's called the s e c why not fire the people at the as you see if they're unwilling to do their job or unable to and replace them with tough regulators we're going to hold these banks accountable i think we don't need another agency the ones that we have are good enough as it is if anything i think the people in charge of those agencies should be replaced if they're totally malfeasant at their job i will say i do think that schneiderman is a good person to you know tap for that leading wrong let's not forget this guy got a lot of flak and also a lot of praise from people like you and i for the fact that when there was a massive settlement the bank of america was trying to mate with a number of states he said no you know this is letting them go too easily but then some are questioning if this means that sold out. no not at all if anything i think general eric schneiderman is the absolute perfect person to put in charge of an

organization like this you know if it weren't for him and attorney general of delaware beau biden and a couple other stalwart attorney generals we would have made a disastrous settlement that would have given wall street a slap on the wrist a twenty five billion dollars fine for stealing trillions of dollars in home equity value so the me i applaud the appointment of attorney general eric schneiderman i couldn't think of a better name in new york at least if not america to put in charge of that organization do you think the president gave himself or perhaps his dodd frank a little too much credit though i mean he said that we will not go back to the days when wall street was allowed to play by its own set of rules i kind of feel like they're still doing that they certainly are still doing that i along with many others didn't think dodd frank went far enough especially not in the derivatives market that really led to the crash in two thousand and eight so it's all well and good to say hey look at this reform we did our job but the reality is much different in that and if anything i think that it's not right to paper over this

problem we still need to break up the too big to fail banks we still need a financial transaction tax that will act as a sin tax to keep the speculative trading down that drives the cost up of food and oil and housing in a number of other commodities i think we need more and i think settling for less is not the answer neither is applauding a halfway measure so i think it's one place to start but we should leave it there and i think we should definitely pressure this president and all the other presidential candidates to do the right thing by the american consumer and not worry so much about what the banking oligarch he would like instead and so we also heard a lot about manufacturing bringing manufacturing back to united states which is by giving tax credits to companies that actually make jobs here at home rather than take them out of the country but do you think that that's going to be enough do you think that america really can have you know a rebirth of the manufacturing sector. i think it's a good place to start but i think a lot of times we look at our tax code is a place to put incentives into the marketplace when it shouldn't be used like that

i think the main problem in our economy is demand average consumers incomes have been stagnant since the one nine hundred eighty s. while prices have gone up and people have taken on debt to meet that demand if you put income into people's pockets by creating green energy jobs instead of the natural gas jobs that they trotted out as if that some sort of green energy initiative it would make a major difference we need infrastructure in this country about four trillion dollars worth instead president obama himself has applauded the fact that we've cut trillion dollars out of the budget when we need that spending most to put income in the pocket of average american worker so i think tax incentives are all well and good it's a mice place to start but we shouldn't discuss what icing we should put on the cake before we stick it in the oven our death they want to thank you for joining us tonight and one thing is for sure is that i think that in many ways the discussion has changed in this country you know since i came i was really even saw it in the president's speech last night thanks. very welcome thank you. well today many

iraqis in the town of haditha are crying foul after learning that a marine who led a team that killed twenty four civilians and who's personally implicated in nineteen of those deaths is going to serve no jail time and we spoke about this case yesterday brought up as maximum sentence could be three months but it turns out that he will serve no time at all now it all stems from an incident back in two thousand and five when a marine was hit by a roadside bomb while he was on patrol in the anwar province in western iraq after he was killed staff sergeant frank wuterich ordered a group of seven marines to join him and finding out who is responsible for the death now on their hunt to find the killer the group of marines proceeded to enter homes unannounced and opened fire without determining if the people inside were a serious threat so using m. sixteen s and grenades ten women and children were killed at point blank range another six were all shot in the head were huddled in the one bedroom and another five men who pulled up in a car where the marines were on patrol were also killed and later testimony we learned that would lead this group ordered his fellow soldiers to shoot first and

ask questions later grotesque massacre has been labeled a turning point in the war in iraq a lot of people claim that it's the reason the insurgents amped up their fight against u.s. troops and it's also one of the most horrific and infamous parts of the war now whatever it was originally charged with manslaughter charges but the staff sergeant agreed to plead guilty to one count of negligent dereliction of duty and the maximum penalty for that charge was only three months in prison he was also demoted to the rank of private but the pretrial agreement also came with a promise of water it serving zero days behind bars and the other seven marines were exonerated for various legal rulings but families of those that were killed were holding out hope that the u.s. would hand down the appropriate punishment and when they learn that what are its actual sentencing was far less severe the response was negative. i mean this does not represent serious accountability for what was clearly a grave a very grave offense you know we are we are quite certain that this is being

received very badly i don't know to look for no other i was expecting that the american judiciary would sentence this person to life in prison and that he would appear in confession for the whole world that he committed this crime so that america can show itself as democratic and fair. now feels the anger for iraqis hoping to see some sort of justice soldiers pulled out of the country at the end of december iraq he said this move shows how americans truly few there view their counterparts the u.s. holds their own high in own high priority no matter what the soldier has done wrong or innocent civilians are the lowest classification in the world now i completely understand the outrage after all was this punishment really fair you think that maybe the u.s. would use wyrick as an example for other troops showing other soldiers that if they were doing gauging these kinds of actions they would face serious consequences but you also have to say i understand how hard these issues are war makes people do horrible things that it's especially hard to hold one man responsible for the crimes of the iraq war when so many who should have been including the people who

have led the u.s. into the war in the first place have not. now we have to take a break but coming up next said i read it and business and political leaders are holding their annual meeting in dallas so are. all the. same. people calling what you said for free and fair elections. and we're still reporting from the summer as you can hear behind me loud explosions. i mean. i get it gave me. a.

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a powerful constituency living in the united states who lobby day in and day out against the chinese. regime and for saying things on the chinese people like the cuban south florida but of course there's the size and power of the chinese economy the fact that we borrow a lot of money from that we all know that when a country benefits the united states economically and as a result militarily because the borrowed money pays for our wars then we're always willing to turn a blind eye and so there you have it now last week a show which airs on al-jazeera called the listening post al-jazeera english they produced a story about r t which featured me prominently and was not exactly fair in my opinion so yesterday i took some time on the show to respond to their piece and their use of clips of us having fun clips from our whole weekend show and they use those to paint a picture of us as a silly and serious network simply to be ignored so in addition to our response we heard a lot of words of encouragement from our viewers tim davis on facebook said alona do you know who you are we know who you are obviously they don't sound very set

a glenn beck is a d. bag b. i don't care if you were born on mars you unlike the rest advocate the truth unfortunately you seem to be the only one who sees this as a true duty of a journalist happy upcoming birthday alone and so i just want to say thank you so much for all the support guys it's obviously never fun to be attacked on t.v. especially when the attacks aren't fair or accurate but it is comforting know that we have viewers who appreciate and support what we do every day which is tell the news with no mercy and we have a little fun all right of course and thank you to everybody for the early birthday wishes as well and finally i want to respond to a viewer that was following my live tweeting of the state of the union last night tweeted to us thanks to the lower show and our team dot com for the state of the union play by play for us folks that can't watch it now honestly it was my pleasure to have a lot of fun tweeting during the bait the debates and the speeches even though some of those debates a really painful to sit through and from time to time i guess maybe i can get

a little carried away i think those of you who follow me probably already know this pretty sure i called john boehner a nasty name last night so hoops either way make sure to follow us at the lower show and i'll do my best to keep you informed and entertained. now yesterday we told you about how the supreme court gave their input when it comes to the government tracking you and while they refuse to declare those contentious g.p.s. trackers as unconstitutional the justices did say that the actions in that specific case did constitute as a search and therefore in need of the warrant a big step towards protecting your right to privacy but now that we've taken a small step forward this next court case for might push us a few steps back see a case in colorado is grabbing attention after a woman has been ordered to decrypt her personal laptop by a federal judge or mona for coast has been charged with bank fraud and money laundering and the prosecution wants to use data on her computer to form a case against her federal prosecutors explained in a brief that if that event doesn't make the data in question on encrypted they

would her public interest and make efforts to prosecute her impossible so basically the lawyers are worried that they will have enough to build their case against her so they want her to violate her own rights to help them prosecute her right i mean isn't that why we have the right to not self incriminate in the first place now if that reasoning wasn't bad enough the lawyers really want to make sure the judge granted their wishes so they love touring with other criminals saying that failing to force for cosi to encrypt her computer would amount to a concession to her and potential and other potential criminals like terrorists drug dealers and those accused of child exploitation seriously she's accused of financial fraud and the fear mongering here is just outrageous now obviously for coast to decline the request of first saying that it was a violation of her fifth amendment rights to not incriminate herself but judge robert blackburn officially ordered her to do so by february twenty first and his opinion judge blackburn said i find and conclude that the fifth amendment is not implicated by requiring production of the unencrypted contents of the toshiba

satellite and three or five laptop computer and the prosecution and the judge agree the fifth isn't at stake here because they merely want access to the information that's been password protected however civil liberties attorneys was cited other supreme court. does that explain that a suspect a person cannot be forced to give encryption passphrase is because that extends to the contents of a defendant's mind which is what the fifteen minute protects so it looks like not only are your fourth amendment rights under attack by the government but now they're trying to take away your fifth amendment rights as well as seen as declan mccullagh put it this case in colorado could set a dangerous precedent and decisions like the one of those who could ultimately wind up in the supreme supreme court someday if of course the justices decide to hear it . all business and political leaders including seventy billionaires are currently gathered at the world economic forum's annual meeting in davos switzerland they have schools of events that even journalists have a hard time covering as most of this action happens behind closed doors and behind many layers of expensive passes but with the eurozone in the middle of

a debt crisis and protesters calling for an end to inequality worldwide there is much to be discussed so earlier i caught up with loren lister host of the capital account here on r.t.e. who's there in davos i first asked her to tell us her impression of the form overall and whether they were making it as difficult as possible for her to get close to any of the attendees. yes they do all alone i'm supposed to have limited access to the. congress congress center which is where all of the actual official davos happens except for thirty minute intervals that i can get a score dated by someone from the world economic forum in order to shoot some video and try to get interviews stairs that lead to the. lounge and the session rooms where people big people big names you'd want to stake out are being held can't go up those those are off limits like you just kind of mole around and try and figure out of any of the faces i don't recognize are important i know that

sounds bad but hey come on they're they're forcing me to be limited so i've got my back yeah i know i've seen some of your tweets with the picture of the stairwell that you just can't go that you're not allowed to but you know there have been a few big names that i've spoken angela merkel for example today and she basically was telling the business community that they need to step back a little bit and let lawmakers do what they need to do when it comes to the eurozone crisis can you tell us more about it. yeah you know that's a little interesting because investors and i'm sure some of those people in that audience of some of the six hundred business leaders that are here they want europe to commit more money to bailouts they want that from europe and angela merkel was saying we're not going to do it instead what i'm going to give you is that we're pledging fiscal integration we believe this is the this is the solution we're committed to it this is going to take patience but if we pledged more money and the markets attacked us then we would be able to deliver and that would be worse for the eurozone essentially i'm paraphrasing so probably not what

a lot of. the business leaders wanted to hear but merkel said you know what we know that we've become known as your headache but i think there are other headaches in the world too and we just really want your patience we think this solution will work interestingly enough i was just saying that george so are supported on the sidelines was saying that structural reforms that she's pushing for are not enough in his view to solve the crisis that there is going to be needed some tougher austerity that it's not the end of the world of greek greece defaults so you can see that there's definitely mixed reception to her speech by the people in that audience all right so we see a little bit of a head butting between the business leaders and the political leaders but i know it goes on for a couple of more days who else are you really looking forward to hearing speak or you know just to being there in general. yeah well there are some heads of state that we're going to hear from david cameron we're going to hear from someone that won't be hearing from him i don't know if you saw this but mick jagger is here he comes to davos just as a guest and when his presence here was politicized by cameron's political party or

so he believed. him being here he left is the report and it was seen as this snub so that someone that you know one of the big heads of state that's here and a prominent celebrity that's not too happy about that but we will hear from more economists as i said some heads of state people like all musette the egyptian presidential candidate are here and the arab spring and what's going to happen geopolitically is on the agenda the economic implications of course as i'm sure there are many investors who want to know that so there is a big line of star economists all those people still be speaking not on the record some of these are in closed door sessions that press are privy to at all but some are i also saw a few reports of some people that didn't make the list or just aren't going to be showing their faces this year like dominic strauss kahn but you know one of the interesting things too as i know there are more than seventy billionaires at this forum right now and yet from some of the statements some of the reports i've read it seems like they feel that inequality is

a really pressing issue that they need to cover which i think that sounds a little odd to the rest of us. yeah i know it does sound odd and this is something that we keep hearing that that a number of participants here are bringing up inequality in this issue of inequality but how far that conversation actually go is of course up for debate because a lot of the people that come here are people that benefit from the current economic system and that come here to advance their corporate goals this is known as kind of the premier spot for deal making and networking so i don't really know how far that conversation is really going to get and to kind of punctuate that in a debate over capitalism earlier today you had not surprisingly someone like brian moynihan the c.e.o. of bank of america defending this system and saying defending the banks defending the role that they played or are just that it's been the victim of the economy they were in so you know it only goes so far alone but you also have to wonder too if

it's the question of inequality is now being raised because that could threaten some of the positions that these people are in in the kind of unrest that it's led to that we've seen it lead to and places maybe that we've seen some of these arab spring countries and uprisings and now that we're seeing with some of the occupy movements so that is when it becomes a concern for some of the one percent i think we i know that some occupiers made it all the way out there to davos to even hear the occupy davos build iglu is you get a chance to go check it out and talk to some of them. oh no i have been in an igloo they actually build igloos so for what they lack in numbers they're certainly making up for and perseverance because they're sleeping in them in the snow i think that speaks to their dedication but yes i did talk to them and their concerns were some of the concerns that have been concerns from outside of davos over the years that these are a bunch of elite getting together to talk about solving the world's problems in a way that's not democratic because if they have actual implications and they do turn into policy in some way shape or form there's

a lot of people locked out of that conversation but there is an occupied tinge to it and definitely a world economic forum focused so let's just hear from from their words what one of them had to say to me but overall they're saying they're improving the state of the world and to me. that's. a fairly arrogant and you briss stick at it to take that really and it shows that their decisions and all the networking they're doing and what they're discussing is going to have global ramifications that are going to affect the entire seven billion people on this planet and at the same time the seven billion people are being actively shut out of the discussion and whether or not this actually does amount to anything because actual policy isn't made here you know that's one of the arguments the reality is that one of things that the protesters pointed out is that some of the corporations here are bigger than states more powerful than states and when you have that kind of that kind of networking going on there are results that impact people's the way that they feel also also real quickly one interesting thing that protester is an

ex-pat he thought that the occupy movement really heating up when he saw those pepper spray victims in new york i think that's interesting to see how that news traveled and sparked protests all over the world are yeah well no it's definitely a good thing to sort of people made it all the way out there to davos in the cold and in the igloo as i think it shows that occupiers aren't going anywhere oh lord thanks so much for filling us in with what's going on out there. are still to come one part of obama's speech last night really caught us and receive host chris matthews off guard in my full time and happy hour that i had to this group anonymous and google's going to invade your privacy even more and you can't do anything about it and i explain after the break.

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