well i'm tom are in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture the applause breaks during the state of the union tell us a lot about what people are thinking and what the president is saying with any surprises last night when it came to who did and didn't applaud also president obama laid out plans last night for a minimum thirty percent tax on millionaires and server is of course are going nuts so of course we'll ask a couple of them of politics in tonight's one liberal and in tonight's daily take economic austerity and anorexia have more in common than you may think you know other similar and how to cure the recession. one of the really interesting and unique things about the state of the union address is the applause breaks they actually turn

a roughly fifty minute speech typically into about an hour a half speech on so i will stand up applause why a linear applaud mute you know softly and the other side sometimes sit on their hands sometimes both sides stand up and all this gives you a sense of where each party stands on the various issues by the applause who's watching how while they're applauding how enthusiastic lead their employees. by looking at john boehner his reaction to as he's sitting behind the president he's on camera a lot since he's the opposite party you kind of get a sense of how the republicans are responding to a democratic president so going off last night's speech we learned an awful lot about the republican party not just they're not just the party of no they're the party of no applause. for example on ending tax breaks for job outsourcers tax breaks for people who send jobs outside the united states while promoting tax breaks for job in sorcerer's when the president proposed that what did eric cantor

and the republicans think of the idea. it's time to stop the word in business is that ship jobs overseas and start rewarding companies that create jobs right here in america send these. eighty thousand didn't look too happy about making sure the kids stay in high school until they're eighteen years old surely everyone would support that right. not speaker boehner. i am proposing that every state. every state requires that all students stay in high school until they graduate or turn eighty. eight i think boehner was missing his genitalia and he's out ok with that either how about student loans i mean you know young men or women shouldn't drown in student loan debt right this is the first generation american history with that's going on can i get some applause

for the right side of the room for that. this congress needs to stop to be interest rates on student loans from doubling in july. one thousand. i guess let's try immigration reform how we stop deporting immigrants who want to fight for our nation and who want to start companies is senator john mccain out there in support that right he has in the past if election year politics keeps congress from acting on a comprehensive plan. let's at least agree to stop expelling responsible young people who want to staff our lands start new businesses defend this country send me a law that gives them the chance to earn their citizenship i will sign it right away. ok i think we know something we can all agree on about women should get equal pay for

equal work rights but speaker boehner. and these women should earn equal pay for equal work. on t. not even that how about this everybody thinks we need to end our reliance on foreign oil. is the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell in the house i'm sure he'd agree on that one last year we relied on foreign oil then in any of the past sixteen years. i guess mcconnell wants more foreign oil shipped from nations who want to kill us all right let's try one more the president wants to turn our military green the department of defense is the largest consumer of oil literally in the world we can all agree the greening d.o.d. is a good thing for everyone right speaker boehner i'm proud to announce that the department

of defense working. with us the world's largest consumer of energy will make one of the largest commitments to clean energy in history with the navy purchasing enough capacity to power a quarter of a million homes a year. that's one tough audience republicans aside though it appears that the president's message did resonate with the american people and big time last night c.b.s. poll speech watchers found that ninety one percent of americans approved of his proposals eighty three percent approved of his economic plans and by the way is a substantial jump up from fifty three percent approval before the speech unfortunately it looks like republicans are poised to block many of those proposals for more of last night's state of the union and the rest of the big stories of the week it's time to rumble.

for tonight's on the panel for tonight's alone little wobble heather servo conservative strategist associated blueskin solutions blogger heather servo dot com and chris all the conservative commentator and activist welcome let's get going for them both to both of you last night president obama called for a change in tax codes the so-called buffett rule where anybody making over a million dollars a year should pay at least thirty percent in taxes top tax rate right now is thirty six percent thirty five percent one of the other so anyway here's what he had to say. tax reform should follow the buffett rule if you made more than a million dollars a year you should not pay less than thirty percent in taxes. is that reasonable. tom as i've said on this program many times you could take all the money away from millionaires and billionaires and we'd still be in a hole that is not that was you the question now i'm not talking about

a solution to our budget deficit i'm saying isn't it reasonable that somebody makes more than a million dollars should pay at least thirty percent tax when somebody you know want a family you know where you've got a cop a teacher could be paying up to thirty thirty five percent i do think that we should have a graduate tax rate maybe thirty percent is fair i do think we should close loopholes so we have a fairer system i just don't want to i just don't want the tax burden to be so heavy on millionaires and billionaires who are saying you know the rich taxing the rich is a solution for our problem which is what obama pretty much says where all of the programs are going to say it's like thirty percent chris during the height of the of the of the growth of the american economy from the one nine hundred forty s. until the one nine hundred to one thousand nine hundred six the top rate on millionaires and billionaires was between ninety one and seventy four percent they were doing just fine well that's not true when the reagan lower the tax rates actually the treasury got more money from lowering it and hey if obama's for a flat tax that's great let's have

a thirty percent flat tax on everybody where do you get thirty why isn't it fifty why isn't it twenty but let's move to a flat tax if that's the most fair saying so and i think if somebody were to talk about fair somebody who's working at wal-mart making sixteen thousand dollars a year and barely barely able danger hey you know in the shadows you know then i want a flat tax you want them to pay thirty percent well i think i want some kind of a flat tax even if there's two or three rates but to here to penalize people for two or three it's not fair to penalize people who make more money and contribute more to a and altie to pay taxes taxes are the cost of civil society so are you willing to have a tax on those forty seven percent of americans who pay no income tax i already are paying taxes they're paying sales tax on any kind i'm one hundred percent of their wages they're paying payroll taxes on a you know if they don't pay an income tax they don't support their military and they don't so there are several education what about all these thing. all right they are already sales tax they're paying all kinds of fees they're paying taxes on everything that they buy certainly their parents are rich people and if you add all

those up the rate for people it's a lot more than thirty percent so maybe wrong i don't mean no taxes on the forty million bucks he stuck in swiss bank you know why because you already paid taxes on the income that he earned when it was income and then he invested it so you want to tax him twice so you're suggesting that if i have income and i use that money to start say a garage an investment you know a repair shop that when i make a profit on that i should not pay any taxes at all if they're dividends yes or fifteen percent rate or whatever the rate i reference it's after tax money that i'm using to create something that's going to make money that's going to hire other people and stimulate the economy and those are really really going to say if i run a business i should pay no taxes whatsoever but what if you're taxed at thirty percent on those in what i work in that business should i pay taxes on your income you should so if you work in a business you should pay taxes on your income but if you own the business you should on your profits from your investment not your income there's two different things well if you own a business the profit is is from your investment i mean you know we're on the best

spends our stocks and bonds and those kind of investments that if you started the business you know just mitt romney started being financial and he gets paid on the money that he invested in those investments that paid public pension holders dividends and all those things that are there only paying fifty one as a nanny that was never taxed that's not really what is taxpayer they invested it's a very delicate balance because we. democrats always like to do is to make the burden heavier on the people who start start businesses and that's what helps our economy it's not creating government jobs it's getting private the private sector again obama's i got to go i. just had that will have to agree to disagree on the republican response is what indiana governor mitch daniels said about the republicans and the president and. in three short years an unprecedented explosion of spending with borrowed money has added trillions to an already an

affordable national debt and yet the president has put us on a course to make it radically worse in the years ahead. but the actual numbers don't line up here's a chart that shows who contributed to our debt it's right behind us hundred eighty nine percent of the debt came from ronald reagan fifty five percent from george w. bush it was reduced by thirty seven percent of our debt came from bill clinton one hundred fifteen percent of our debt came from george w. bush these were these are you know increases in debt under fifty percent increase and sixteen percent increase by obama why is my comment on t.v. and why is this like some kind of major talking point for publicans when the facts point to that it's that it's a lie but these are percentages of increase i went to the us treasuries website today u.s. treasury dot gov and at the beginning of george bush's term to the end he raised the debt four point nine trillion in eight years this president has raised it over

five trillion in less than four years how do you answer that well he knows are we a heritage a depression no no. if we added he added more in less then for you there is a dip then reuters did in a year you'll said that he said he inherited he didn't say george p. bush gave him this glowing wonderful economy and he destroyed it he said he had it he had badness when he came into office and he did nothing to improve it he made all he actually improved substantially we had twenty two consecutive months of private sector job growth if those people were not paying taxes there would be even worse but you know what i said i thought it would more sense left him for it to increase the debt to disagree ok well let's take a break here and we'll come back with more with the big picture of the river.

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by the magna lone liberal rumble tonight i'm joined by heather servo conservative strategist associate a blueskin solutions and blogger heather sermon dot com and chris allman conservative commentator and activist welcome back to both feel it's get into this mitt romney is definitely wall street's favorite guy he's got more money from wall street than all the other presidential candidates republican and democrat at the federal level you know for the president combined he's got six hundred thousand bucks just in the first three quarters of two thousand and one or two thousand and rather president obama has only gotten two hundred thousand and he's number two wall street is banking on the republicans when in the white house seventy percent their money is going to republicans so far it's the most lopsided spending that we've seen from wall street since they became a major player in the political arena over the last twenty years so for publicans when this year wall street wins big right. you know i i don't see any problem i don't see why democrats think money is a bad thing in politics i think that we really we should have more regulations we have actually the more money seems to be spent on elections the average person can

spend money on elections the average person's voice gets drowned out well i mean i people like david koch. what i'm saying is a fine yeah i mean there are a lot of people which are but you know the wall street i know that you love to talk about the banks and how corrupt everything wall street is but i think. what not every not everybody there if you most or most of them but you know i mean i think that wall street is a lot of good things i mean business as pro-business mitt romney or publican party are pro business so it makes sense that they would donate more money to the pro-business people than they would to that well bomber but yeah but but wall street is not running a business wall street is making money on money well let me just say all this washington post reported in october of two thousand and eleven that the democrats had raised fifteen point nine billion million dollars from wall street but we have a real problem and i think conservatives and liberals can actually agree on this and that is we need to stop a lot of these subsidies and

a lot of these tax breaks for whatever it is whether it's or oil or green jobs or whatever it is instead of using the tax code to punish certain people and reward others that's why we need to much get rid of all these exemptions yet you're all spirit is only takers of both political parties but hollywood no obama yeah hollywood no bond i am what i was also reading i would neither one of you know how do we get money out of politics i don't think we can get money out of we want to get money out of politics we just need to stop using the tax code to reward certain people and certain behaviors and really get down to the long run or whole nation you know in this town the senators members of the house of representatives spend between thirty and seventy percent of their time that's that's the spread i mean it's actually been analyzed depends on the state that they're from and how tight the. raises but it's between seventy and thirty percent of all their time while they're working in the city in our office offsite dialing for dollars that's insane and they're down for dollars from people who want something in

a day you know in exchange for those dollars is not just you know so it has to have you to tax people more i'm not suggesting taxes well i'm saying public funding is the only other way to pay for campaigns if you don't get it from private donations and at least what i have to tell you shouldn't people can support who they like or you could do like mccain feingold did and limit the amount of donations just say you know five hundred bucks no independent about expenditure limitless summations but complete transparency well that's a possibility and i under that might and that might actually work if you can enforce the transparency the problem is you've got like the chamber of commerce where you know even their offshore subsidiaries can can can launder money through them and you never have any idea where it came from i just think that you got a modeling money right now he'll say hey it's my money he's got two hundred million bucks but how do you know we're really came for this i'm saying like i think with all the regulation just like with the tax code it's complicated so people hire these fancy boyer's to find loopholes and we get crazier system than if we just had a flat tax or just something much simpler say with elections and they still buy

loopholes from legislators i think are limitless well it's a little donations ok limitless. you're in favor of the billionaires if you want to get all fortune to somebody you should be free to do that and therefore the the ninety five percent of americans who don't have a fortune are just out of work well i'm just saying be hard for somebody to own somebody then if you have donations coming from lots different sources then you know you can have one point one super pac whatever demanding that this i think if we do it your way the congressman should be required to wear nascar patches i'm the congressman has so i'm the one from exxon mobil you know the polls out of florida now show that gingrich is in the lead national polls show that there's actually a dead heat between romney and something. but at what cost. newt is calling the president the food stamp president and. you know which has a. pretty clear i think a racial undertone to a plus here's this exchange with juan williams from last week's south carolina

debate. speaker gingrich you recently said black americans should demand jobs not food stamps you also say poor kids lack the strong work ethic and propose having them work is janitors in their schools can't you see this is at a minimum as in so think all americans would particularly black americans. why don't you. just say. black americans should demand jobs not food stamps would be like my saying you know whether you should demand. point you know you should demand jobs not food stamps and it implies that you're demanding food stamps and not jobs and that's a that's a pretty harsh thing to say and many would say pretty racist thing to say so is race baiting i mean nixon called this is southern strategy he was going to go after after the. the old dixiecrats the democrats who were the racists and reagan

perpetuated that his first speech was in philadelphia mississippi were mississippi burning where the three civil rights workers workers were murdered so i would say this i'm not a gingrich apologist i i can't believe we're in the situation that we're in and if he's the nominee i think their public and party is toast are going to vote democrat no. i mean i don't know if i would but i'm definitely not that discouraged. but i do think though that you could argue that his claim about obama being the food stamp president is actually saying that more americans are on food stamps as he has always had greater proselytes as as a result of his continuing some bad policies in creating he went away that he said that i was just not true when he came into office we were losing. seven hundred thousand jobs a month that's expanding the demand for food stamps we have had twenty two straight months of job private sector job creation that's diminishing the demand for food stamps but our unemployment is higher and the truth of the matter is that obama

came in making a lot of promises and a lot of promises to the black community and you know what fifty percent of young black men are unemployed so they're not demanding food stamps they are demanding jobs but he's giving them food stamps instead of jobs and people need to wake up and say you know what this guy made a lot of promises and you need is our lawyers and they are now you say government can't make jobs but you just said that he's not giving them jobs he's not even not creating the atmosphere for private business to come in he's picking winners and losers with the tax code he's stopping things like keystone pipeline that would have been private sector jobs what what can the president eliminate that's going to cause businesses to want to go into a poor minority area and set up shop well new york city they the city council prohibits businesses from opening unless they promise all of these things that they are not in a financial position to deliver and so you know i mean they say food no i mean like

twelve dollars an hour minimum wage i mean like certain benefits where you're talking about people who have no job and they could have a job or somebody should a job now so so if they're poor people in a minority are they should work for three bucks an hour not three bucks an hour but whatever the national minimum wage is instead of jacking it up to the new york level so it's better to be on welfare no way for them to have a job making ten dollars an hour you know. it's better to be on welfare than make then make a job get a job and had a what are you saying is that is that that government is not preventing those businesses and yet they are saying the structural racism is is is participating in that and the government could actually fix that lyndon johnson cut poverty among minority communities in by fifty percent and do it and create with affirmative action program. in the great society and what he did was he established the foothold for a great middle class the same way that before him harry truman with the g.i. bill created a huge middle class among white people built largely white that want to establish

themselves in harlem but the city council says no because they won't pay above the minimum wage that those businesses are discriminatory i'm saying if you can't run a business in a way that benefits the community you have no right to rooms then those people won't have jobs thanks to you in the liberals and that's sad and and that's i just don't think that that's the case i think with the where's there's demand you know people had money to buy things somebody will figure out a way to open a store and deliver it to them but the people don't have the money anyhow we have to go to our court for our quick for a question last question in an interview with c.n.n. nancy pelosi said this about newt gingrich's chances of being president of united states. going to be president of the united states this is and that's not going to happen let me just make my prediction and stand by it isn't going to happen why so sure there's something i know they were public hence if they choose to nominate him and that's their prerogative i don't think that's going to. there's something i

know so the question is what does nancy pelosi have a new gingrich. possible answers a she knows that he asked his second wife for an open marriage with fannie mae before he discovered the fannie mae was a mortgage lender or he knows that when she knows that when calista said she was bringing home tiffany's new thought he hit the jackpot was going to have a threesome or c. she knows newt pays alimony to his ex-wives in food stamps do you think or other possibilities i think you know newt is jonah goldberg wrote today cilla and the way that he disappears is he self destructs i mean i think that he's his own worst enemy and. self up well i mean i'm just saying regardless of what she has i think that he cannot survive krista nancy tell us now tell us now what you know that's a new yes please we want to know ok well and i think that it might have or get my theory as you know pigeons are actually spies sent here from the planet xenu the

robots right you never see a dead pigeon if the baby pigeon obviously and nancy has newts real birth certificate he was born on the planet xena that's now that i believe ok. there's always both being with us tonight much appreciated. crazy alert it's time to get creative in handling budget deficits and debt city of bonn germany has found a new way to help out its debt problem prostitution taxes the city is introduced a system of curbside a stations from which sex workers are required to purchase tickets or permits in order to work the streets at night while taxing prostitution is nothing new in germany creating sex meters for those who work the streets and definitely is prostitutes or charge a flat nightly rate in order to work all night long the city collected nearly twenty thousand dollars of the machines in the last year and over thirty thousand

dollars from all forms of prostitution axing to accompany the machines the city built wooden garages around the machines were prostitutes can conduct their business and his pain for security guards to protect the prostitutes. and in america oddly rumor has it that one of the most outspoken critics of the tax on prostitution in germany as come from the united states none other than disgraced senator from louisiana david vitter. after the break everyone knows eliminating the capital gains tax can help our economy grow and prosper don't conservatives want this for a nation to ask our capitalist gains expert next. we

have seen the damage it has done to our environment mark chemicals what the poor probs we do not want any more new g.m.o. foods. our core system is just that was a dismal experience and i'm just just appalled but that's allowed to go on in america. eating this unfortunately because we don't know what's in it there's no labeling there for it being used like a board to experiment and be used as guinea pig. oh now we have more questions than we have had three guards. like. wealthy british scientists on some time to.

market why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds a report on our. thanks for being with us at half past the hour here's a quick recap of your headlines one year down the line to egypt is celebrating the beginning of the revolution that president mubarak tens of thousands of people are now on top or a square but first ration over the slow pace of change has cast a cloud over the party atmosphere meanwhile the army has partially lifted the notorious emergency law that's been in place since the one nine hundred eighty one . in the state of the union address president obama pledges to fix the economy and

create millions of new jobs in a speech widely seen as the start of his reelection campaign critics of his address say his agenda leaves the white house open to accusations of double standards and his upbeat tone doesn't reflect reality. and do in a song to expose some of the world's darkest secrets and now he's going to get others to spill the beans this time on the air the wiki leaks founder prepares to launch his own interview show and it's coming to right here on our team. those are the headlines this hour and now back to our washington studio for the big picture with tom hartman don't go away.