but getting back to the broader issue of copyright itself copyright needs to be the extensions the term extensions of the past couple of decades should be repealed to keep to be in keeping with the constitution and the idea of fair use the fact they've been allowed to extend out to a lifetime plus seventy five years is a heinous misuse and misinterpretation of what a copyright should be you're in that camp or do you see it differently absolutely i think that you know we live in an era of shortages and one of the big shortages out here is access to good reliable critical information by large numbers of people who can benefit from it and this is a choke on that ok so as a content creator yourself you're weighing the the the benefits of perpetual copyright as lawrence lessig would call it versus open free communications and you feel that the critique communications uncensored communication far outweighs in

terms of importance in terms of protecting a few a couple hundred thousand filmmakers and porno makers in l.a. now the national defense authorization act the n.d.a. has also making its way through congress at the same time as sopa are these two related do you see that a relationship. indeed in that both are serious assaults on basic liberties protected by the bill of rights in the u.s. constitution you know and they come at it from different directions but it's part of a broader overall agenda which we've seen since the patriot act in two thousand and one of the government corporations having ever more control on what we see here and what we could say and now chris and his is one of these guys that i would imagine the government would love to marginalize even more than they've already marginalized by not having him on mainstream television he thinks that the n d a is basically allowing for the indefinite military detention of american cities. and as

it relates to the upcoming financial collapse so they're kind of making some some moves here because they know that this u.s. economy is in the process of free falling do you see that absolutely no question there has been and we've been tracking this a collapse not for well over a year now as as as this tightening down has taken place and we saw it with the occupy movement also in which i was deeply involved that that the government through whether through homeland security or any parts of the federal government and state governments are are doing everything they can to choke off and preemptively prepare for what they know is going to be civil unrest and i also think they're trying to stir it up themselves so that they can dig advantage of it where the brutal crackdown so now earlier we were reporting on india circumventing the u.s. sanctions on iran by using rupees to buy oil this follows on similar news from

china and russia. so these big trading blocks are bypassing the dollar completely and shunning dollars walters' of currency and of course that's one of the keys for the american empire to continue if that goes then the u.s. loses that senora edge and having the global currency and it's another nail in the coffin there's a make any sense for that policy in the u.s. well clearly what's happened here and i think united states is is really getting pushed back severely on all fronts what if the u.s. gave an oil embargo and nobody came and that's exactly what happened china japan korea india have all said no we're going to continue to buy iranian oil and in fact chinese purchases of iranian oil is gone up thirty percent in the last year which is confirming for the basic theory and concept of peak oil there is no place to go to replace iranian. oil the saudis cannot production now what's happening with this

and you're absolutely right is we're seeing major moves sometimes on an ad hoc quick basis but i think some are more orchestrated. for the far east where there's a dollar free zone truth for nations clearly to liberate themselves from from the dollar denominated trap that's there and those moves i think are taking place very quickly and i think what we're seeing now is are only going to accelerate that there is clearly a shift of economic power away from the west europe and the u.s. obviously in decline with relatively speaking china more ascended more powerful certainly they have a lot of cash and a lot of power so i think that all these moves by the west detached from reality as they usually are are just accelerating the decline of western economic power and influence our let's start by air for a second and get your take on this again kind of my my thought exercise care is

that you think here you have a country greece they were tricked into the europe by goldman sachs who committed massive accounting fraud we now know that there's no no doubts about this as a result they now are being asked to suffer through massive austerity measures while outside governments and corporations seize control of their income producing assets now on top of this we now they're being told that they can a poor oil from iran because of the this skirmish between that rabbit israel they don't get a loan so greece can't have any more oil what's authorises going to crush their economy even more who decided that greece suddenly had to go the way of all flesh and be terminated what why is grace and how did that happen it's the same bunch of idiots that have been running everything else but i notice in the stories today it's big breaking news that the e.u. has supposedly banned iranian oil imports. that's going to be

a joke and it's going to hurt nobody except europe because nobody else is going along with it but in the fine print which i found in a reuters story this morning this ban does not take effect until july and there are side pocket exemptions being granted all over the place so this is a toothless embargo but you know it's it's if we expected sanity to work in these markets max you and i would have been crazy a long time ago i mean there's none of this makes sense from from an overt plainly logical step by step analysis. every nation in europe is going to get hurt and i don't think get you know. all the system is capable of doing right now because it's so detached from honest. dealing with the reality of the world around that it's shooting itself in the foot and that's what we've seen since two thousand and eight and i my group you mention oh these markets are insane they're getting more crazy i mean this is actually a theme of davenant's this year they're saying that we need to re-examine this

entire model of capitalism and also that david cameron is the prime minister of britain has come out recently said we need to move toward another what he called moral capitalism so the entire model of capitalism has been understood is now under threat. what what is the what's the problem number one and number two other any simple tweaks changes that could be applied to kind of recalibrate this this is this freight train a capitalist capitalism gone off the tracks and. for for me to make it easier for me to function safely with the question i would replace the word capitalism with organized crime and all that we're seeing from the movies from davos david cameron and everybody else you and i both know this is the organized crime people trying to exert more control and somehow smooth out the wrinkles in their criminal mechanism . like a very easy for me last august when conceptually i just took us. back from

everything that was happening in greece in the buildup to the european crisis which is here now and i said wait a minute all these trillions of dollars of bailouts which are being printed right now require growth above two thousand and seven levels and with the i don't know how many thirteen fifteen twenty trillion stupid number floating out there the physical growth required to satisfy the obligations in the infinite growth paradigm repaying with interest is not possible because of resource limitations whether it's oil energy physical goods or the raw materials used the kind of growth required to pay all this off is just not possible and i can't stop there and back off what i say i'm just going to watch these idiots shoot themselves in the foot because we know what the end game has to be because of physical law rather than press releases right that's an interesting point there they their g.d.p. growth needed to work off the present load of debt would require a certain number of barrels of oil to work its way through the economy roughly one

trillion barrels of oil and that one trillion barrels of oil does not exist therefore it would be impossible to work off this debt so debt jubilee at some point is a dead certainty i would imagine your thought is if it comes sooner is better than later i gave a speech in portland oregon september eleventh in which i said that mass universal universal debt forgiveness between. sovereigns and corporations that includes the banks between corporations and corporations and people and and corporations is going to have to be wiped out you have to hit that reset otherwise you create the same rickety italian cruise ship that's ready to hit on the rocks the moment the wind changes all right mike rupert ratzon thanks so much for being on the kaiser report always a pleasure max and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert thank my guest mike rupert of collapse net dot. com

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i. mean poland the country signs up to a global take down internet piracy is making their mark in the protests. people fear that these documents will give corporations too much power to take regular users offline i'll explain why in just a few moments. heavy clashes in syria as a resolution to president assad is laid on the un's table but russia pledges to put any stop to any possible intervention. and the battle for russia as

a top job goes viral with internet campaigns and you tube videos becoming more powerful tools than conventional t.v. debates. worldwide news live from the center of moscow this is our rule research shame in poland right now key websites are being hijacked while thousands of internet freedom supporters are marching outside in a major two pronged protest it's because the country's just signed up to a global web piracy pact covering everything from movies and music to fashion and pharmaceuticals but its net does stretch wide. use in warsaw to explain it for us good to see you this can get very murky frankly quite difficult to understand can you break it down for us what does this anti piracy pact set out to do. well

this document called the courtesy trade agreement which has been signed by poland and many other countries other countries in fact including the united states. new zealand and others is the reason why tens of thousands of people are taking to the streets in poland is the reason why most of the governmental web sites in this country have been hijacked by the hacker groups including the anonymous hacker group it is well known across the world basically this agreement is all about protecting the intellectual property including movies books pharmaceuticals designer clothes and things like that but ordinary people fear that the big corporations will use it to police the web to take regular users offline so we've seen lots of protests in poland as i mentioned in the last several days we are also seeing protests being held today in the cities of new berlin and poison in bozeman in central poland we are expecting of course process to morrow on friday in more so

so the people here are very unhappy with this decision with the decision of the polish government to sign this document we also understand that several hacker groups have hacked into the polish government websites and anonymous hacker group have sent out a very stern warning saying that it has very sensitive information about the polish authorities it will publish it unless the polish government decides to vote against the document the document that was signed by the polish ambassador in japan this morning so there's no going back only there's one case they were to fix the country's parliament which is to happen in the next several days it may still be averted there was a little chance because when they stand up the prime minister's party sponte is holding the majority in parliament so the document is almost sure it will be signed in poland. as you explained here and certainly there are a lot of people getting really really upset over this and. all of us as we all

mostly now adays all internet users what does it mean for us this act movement what does it mean. well as i've said its main aim is to protect intellectual property but the problem about this document is that it was worked out in complete secrecy bypassing all governments and the general public had no access to it so that's why the regular users are afraid that this document would be used against them and in fact could be used by the big corporations to police the internet i'll just give you a simple example for instance you would say you create a website and you put links to your favorite movies on this website and big corporations can in fact start a criminal case against you saying that you violate the agreement so nobody knows to what extent corporations can go in using this document in fact misusing this document as broadcast this fear in poland and everywhere they protest against it certainly has some resemblance to the american soul bill which is also being

discussed in the united states but the difference is that the bill is a more american local thing actually is definitely international and it will concern all countries which sign it we are certainly expecting that another twenty six countries of the european union will sign this document as well though there is a certain protest movement in parliaments of these countries so it's not certain that all twenty six will sign them but definitely actor will will be in most of the european countries certainly in possibly for more protests across the european continent. thank you for shedding some light on these this new set of anti-piracy laws life from so. well the deal has parallels as alexie was saying with america's anti-piracy plans they were shelved last week after a backlash including protests from internet giants like wikipedia which went on a twenty four hour blackout one digital freedom activist who is the founder of

sweden's pirate party says the laws are sure the government's deeply in the pockets of corporations. i think it's an excellent example of the agreed just abuse of power by the copyright industry this legislation about putting people in jail was negotiated by corporations and our lawmakers just got in there laughter that is not how a democratic society should work quite regard less of what this law says now what it does say of course it's all corporate interests so there's no hard to get there really if you look at how the net operate their activists all over the place that give people back their rights that corporations take away from them and they are sort of our last hope at this point regrettably but we can really influence lawmaking what people are discovering which people discovered and true was for the so far and people in the united states was that millions of people literally

millions contacted congress and said we don't want this is this is not what we stand for congress heard them realize that if they follow the corporations rather than the voters then they lose their job and that's what changes policy in the end . he watching out to you live from moscow let's turn our attention to syria where the syrian troops are storming a heavily populated damascus suburb where government forces pulled out earlier this week after clashes with opposition fighters the u.n. security council could vote in the next few days on a resolution aimed at stemming the escalating conflict the draft calls on the syrian regime to comply with an arab league proposal for president assad to leave and pave the way for a unity government russia has made it clear that it will veto any u.n. resolution that allows foreign intervention or sanctions in syria itself the arab

league school monitoring mission has suffered a setback after six countries pulled out calling on the u.n. to act parties sarah first now explains. saying they get by and heading home they've said it's from the gulf states leave the airport then mission incomplete leaving behind a country in a deepening crisis it's never going to be easy so you want the arab league monitors to stay. i don't want them right from the word go the missions prove problematic the opposition accused the monitors of being too closely aligned with the government the government's now accused of being part of a foreign conspiracy and they were just to cool complaints to the observer seemed ill equipped on the ground and there were concerns that they were simply too few numbers to undertake such a major task and if things were bad at the beginning now they seem even worse following in saudi arabia's footsteps all the gulf states withdrew their observers

after damascus rejected their recent proposal that included president cede power to a deputy and form a unity government was interesting that these countries is very interested in democracy and they have nothing and this is the most interesting this is something funny we'll talk about. well we'll have a new constitution we are going to more democratic contrie multi-party system but what about to do. the west talk about syria which would be changed and leave saudi arabia as it is damascus says rejection was no surprise they sides of the conflict of shape equal a willingness to soften their stance even when the daily death toll in the country continually rising the killing of the head of the syrian arab red crescent was on the raid to damascus yes you know the remind the spiraling situation. of the

observers at such a creature of a bid to the country's crisis is seen as controversial the arab league essentially has no credibility on the arab street what the arab league mission is trying to accomplish is good enough evidence concrete everything about human rights abuses on the part of the are so very seem to think so the u.n. and the evidence will be so strong that even russia and china will feel compelled to work but as of now one month after this mission started they seem to know the monitors thing to know more about what's going on the ground and they did. at the beginning and so it all looks like you know we're going back to square one as the death toll rises the earlier proposal being floated to increase the number of observers on the ground and provide them with u.n. training could be a life saving word but for now those plans have been pissed on hold in fact much of the substance of the report that graded pieces on both sides seems to have been lost in the flurry of diplomatic activity now france and britain have joined forces

at the united nations to try to end president assad's rule waving good bye to their gulf state colleagues some observers remain but it's small consolation syria didn't close the doors in for the arab league and i think. it's diplomacy will give. anyone to help the syrian but they lost this issue in the hands of the syrian people not in the hands not the arab league screwed council so a national dialogue through these reforms despite damascus and the mission to be extended for another month and the if that is officially saying that they can continue with that behind the scenes and the sentiment is much less optimistic. it's a gloomy outlook for the country with little regional or international agreement on what action should be taken to stop the violence and putting an end to the crisis seems to be slipping further and further as a very. artsy damascus syria. we're coming to live over something else go still to

come in the program here davos versus the crisis the leaders of global finance and politics tackled the arab spring and the embattled eurozone switzerland's exclusive ski resort i want people who question the efforts of locked out in the snow. also. if you are few surprises as a russian rocket heads to the space station for the first time this year is taking a few tons of vital cog with the crew cannot do without. the egyptians have to remain in the capital's career square after a rally marking the first anniversary of the uprising which toppled president mubarak protesters want a speedy handover of power from the interim military rulers one key demand has finally been met that was to lift the mubarak era state of emergency but

a egyptian author and filmmaker philip risk says the concession will bring little change. i don't see it as being that big of a shift i mean we lived under military rule for thirty years and that gave the government their storage had to do just about what they wanted today we live under military rule so to me it's just a formal matter and that they lived emergency law while we live under the rule of a military dreamt up since the military took over general twenty eighth over fifteen thousand civilians that we know of have faced military courts and they have received trials of anywhere between six months to fifteen years and a formal matter like lifting emergency law means absolutely nothing when we have a newly elected parliament that is still under the thumb of the military they've tasted power they have massive economic interests in the country again everything that's happened in egypt really needs to be looked at from an economic perspective in that there's a group of thrones of one box and his government that were in power they've been

moved out of power and there's a new group of cronies that are in place and central to that group of power hungry rulers today are the military generals and they will not just let go and hand over power like that without having guarantees that their interests will be secured nearly quarter past the hour here in moscow it is the second day for business decision makers and top brass politicians in switzerland and their efforts to keep the global finance a float and not forgetting to make a bit of a profit along the way fallout from the arab uprisings is inevitably a major concern for the world economic forum and so is finding ways to breathe life back into the struggling eurozone these are lister is standing by for us at davos so good to see you the i.m.f. has been warning of contagion from the euro zone's troubles and what are leaders in davos proposing to solve this problem. well today we heard from david cameron u.k. prime minister who had quite a different message than what we heard from angela merkel yesterday when she opened

up davos so david cameron came out and said that number of things that he believes the euro zone needs that they need a quick speedy resolution agreed debt issuance is and fiscal transfers and order to deal with imbalances so sounds to me like he's calling for some kind of euro bond said that there needs to be a firewall big enough and said you know really right now the euro zone has none of these things now this is in contrast to angela merkel yesterday who said we're not going to pledge more bailout money even though maybe the investment community wants it we're promising you that that we believe this fiscal integration will solve the problem along with structural reforms geared towards things like creating jobs so different message from u.k. prime minister today but a couple things i thought were really interesting so he was asked about what all this means for the future of free market capitalism which is a debate going on here at davos and the emergence and rise of state capitalism and david cameron continue to tout free market capitalism and the european model as the

best for freedom and democracy but one thing that came to mind is what we've seen with the technocrats installed that are now running the governments of italy and greece and pushing through these reforms that were very much dictated or influenced by germany and what germany wanted also the e c b that has been where reportedly occupy protesters have staged their protest against and the european central bank of course is not they're not accountable to. anything that the democratically elected politicians are they operate independently and privately so those are some of the questions that came up for me i think i tried to ask i raise my hand unfortunately didn't get my question in but that's what that's my question for you u.k. prime minister david cameron the horrible we're trying to possible i'm for you there lauren let's shift gears and talk about the occupy movement we understand that some of the occupy movement protesters have managed to reach this exclusive resort in the mountains are they having their luck in getting into the talks so far. you know

they have and of course they're in there in igloos down the street where they will be all week and they've been for days they have a number of protests planned i guess the irony this year we've seen the occupy movement gathers that steam and really of course they would be expected to be at davos at the world economic forum the irony is that as i was reading one analysis they were saying it sounds a little like klaus schwab the founder of the world economic forum is channeling occupy and his rhetoric about the problems of capitalism the irony of course is the occupy protesters and activists are part of the conversation here at the forum all right laura list of davos and will return to that in just a few minutes in our business update laura thanks very much. the top job in the world's largest country is a highly prized position so beating your content does require some creative thinking those up for the russian president so you are using every avenue available to get the message out there. has been looking at the company.