loses a court battle two months after that and as i said just was talking to another lawyer that it could be the biggest win for us or for the people concerned about you most and time only tell and i'm sure that this ring court in four or five years will have to revisit because whether we saw it's of their decision could mean that a corporation could control almost anything that the put your genes into anything to put their patents are that's the way it stands right now also some people legal people have expressed that maybe it was a white decision that eventually now monsanto will be faced to be able to have to control what they put into the environment for although i built the issue and if they put up an environment that the pair ate and it's no they can't control they'll take a second look at it if they put something in there and going to end up with massive lawsuits which can break the company.

i was just been talking with nathan busch the wonderful new yesterday and he was really telling me he said i had a great victory yes to be and he said that we should own up dairy and really give encouraging encouragement but he said what now has to happen is that six months had to could farmers could break monsanto. hey if every farmer would pull up wants hand and say i think they're some of your g.m.o. canola or soy beans or my people come and get it we don't want it here or i have there's i we think some of your g.m.o. seeds have controllers to our being very mice he'd come and get it how it wants how to be able to take a plant out of a farmer's field how would they know if it could all plant wonders to see just say and flowers to say so much how to couldn't they couldn't do it.

or. so. companies the ground of appeal that we were wanting to win on was the one that would say that you know just because you have a tattoo or gene or a cell that doesn't give you a pattern to a plant the other part of the problem is what what responsibilities do biotech companies have to farmers for patented material that escapes and causes damage that issue is yet to come off although the you know in that respect the legal battle as far as percy is concerned is drawn to a close and many many people around the world had paid their hopes on the. ground of appeal and hope that we would succeed but i don't think it ends the war the war is going to continue continue in a different form i think this is a matter that parliament needs seriously to look at the impact if and now we're

going to say in this country that you can give patents to people that allow them to control organisms that spread themselves around that raises implications that were raised in this case that need to be addressed by parliament and i hope their advice to do so. but i want to ask you a question it's being reported by our national broadcaster this morning that the supreme court ruled that you deliberately. supplanted it jeanette. modified monsanto's seed in your crops and i just want to know if this is a correct report or if you could straighten the record for that for once and for all in my view if you're not planting something intending to grow around it ready crop meaning some crop you're intending to spray with round up. you know i don't see where that goes but as far as the supreme court was concerned in the lower courts. to that to that the cultivation of plants with the gene in it was

sufficient to be infringement today as a personal as i said it's a personal victory. six years of legal battle when we stood up to monsanto back in one nine hundred ninety eight we never realize it would ever go this far and then when the other point i'd like to make. especially comments from the about the biotech industry you always have to remember monsanto late the lawsuit against me i did not play the lawsuit against monsanto they were the ones to start it and then we took my wife and i took the position that a farmer should never ever nooses rights who's used to seed from year to year and that was the basis we fought that for the rights of bombers who didn't. want to hear things they.

wanted saddos cotton on that gene is valid and wherever that tino rice by whatever means in any higher life form they all in and control that light form and when i used that term higher life form i don't only mean seeds or plant it's bird species animal even a human being so now we have more questions then we have ads or is it canada in regards who owns like. if you. really believe it. since two thousand and four percy schmeiser has not planted canola on his farm and is growing wheat oats and peace instead but

increasingly there are volunteers of roundup resistant canola on his fields he informed monsanto which tested the plants and confirmed them as being their patient and canola but they would not remove the plants unless a full release a non-disclosure agreement was signed. and in that release form first of all they said we can never ever talk to anyone to the press our new birth what the terms of settlement work and he wanted us to sign give all or rights away well that was no way we're going to do that this new way we give our freedom of speech or we end it you know and that take they would. they wanted us that we could never take them to court for the rest of our lives and it wasn't only pretty myself it was our children they what that did they would have that the sign of the two that they would never speak if you're wrong it's been sent and that's a reason why we didn't want to sign it because there's no we want to give it right

away to a corporation. my father said ok we won't remove the plants then that i call points out will then we are going to remove my will get help and we will move we move the plant and we will send you the bill my sample immediately send us an e-mail and said you're not allowed to do to those plants whatever you want because they're our property so i told them it's your property it's on my property we on the land we pay the taxes get your property off our land. percy hired a neighbor to remove the plants and sent the bill to months on to over a total amount of six hundred canadian dollars monsanto refused to pay and luis mizer filed a claim in the local small claims court. can you imagine the end there is going to monsanto a billion dollar corporation coming to court for six hundred dollars but five

minutes before the trial might sadhu agreed to settle out of court and they agreed that there would be no gag order my wife and i could talk about it i could talk to you about it you can make so it was not only a great victory for ourselves but now it opened it up for all farmers. in every part of the world if you are contaminated you know have an avenue where you can take my cat and not only monsanto you could take syngenta dupont to court if you were contaminate contaminated because now if president has been established. when i travel around the world and i meet so many people so many organizations that have such a dedication they went good food they want safe food and they don't want the

environment our air our land our soil contaminated with poisons and then when i see how hard these people work and for what they believe in it gives me the courage and the strength to carry on.

champagne taste on a beer budget world elites are sipping the sweet life in switzerland while attempting to deal with a better economic reality capital account host lauren list so it will give us a behind the scenes look at the two thousand and twelve economic forum. and while the world believes indulge on as cargo another group of leaders is looking for a way out of this flying the economic situation if not in a less glamorous way it's a clash of the economic forum so who has the solution we'll explore. it's good for

the community good for the state and good for your businesses well actually there's a real art to that. well part of that statement is true anyway draining a community of its resources and the government of its stimulus money is good for business well tell you how the company world pool is putting one town through the spin cycle. it is thursday january twenty sixth four pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching artsy. well as we speak the worlds most rich and powerful are gathering in this whiskey town of davos for the annual world economic forum they're expected to take part in talks aimed at resolving the world's economic woes the meeting comes as the crisis in the euro zone there and supply into the region back into recession and bring the global economy down with it but

as we see one economic summer summit after another play out will this forum be any different and being a real force for change will argue the lauren lyster joins us now from davos to bring us the very latest hi laura nice to see you so leaders from the euro zone have spoken how is it playing out over there and what are some of the highlights. well as you can imagine liz the eurozone as very much taken the if fishel center stage after yesterday we heard from angela merkel which i talked about with you guys and she said be patient we're going to stick to this fiscal integration we're going to join together for more europe that's a solution just hang in there we heard david cameron come on stage today for his remarks which were drew a very large audience a very large line to see and as you would expect he talked a little trash on the eurozone and talked a lot of trash on the solutions the leaders of come up with that have been championed by angela merkel saying that in order for a single currency to survive in the case of the euro zone needs

a number of things including a central bank including a way to do some kind of what sounds like he was amounting to euro bonds a few other things to a need that it's not that the eurozone doesn't have all of these it's that they don't have any of these so pushing for more money more of a firewall more of a solution and we hear that not just from politicians we hear that from big wig investors like george soros who has been really pushing his plan for the euro zone which he's come out with in a book which leaders in the euro zone have not adopted so very much taking center stage but as you know as i've been talking about that's not the whole forum at all . speaking of solutions this year they were expected to discuss capitalism and rethinking the system is that the these are the political and business elites that of course have benefited from a capitalist system so are they really interested in talking about income inequality or is it all for the cameras. well you know that's the thing you can put

whatever you want on the official agenda but what people are really going to do and what they're really going to talk about is whatever they're really going to do and talk about and that's the status quo that they've benefited from then that's what you can expect yes we have seen people like klaus schwab who is the founder of the world economic forum talk about the problems with capitalism and how it's outdated in its current form but that's the same quote i've seen appear over and over again and all of the stories i've i've seen about the rethinking of capitalism it's the same quotes over and again coming from one debate yesterday morning on capitalism and a handful of billionaires talking about income inequality so while yes we have seen some focus on stage and in some of the content on the agenda you have to remember that a handful of billionaires and a couple of people that are concerned about capitalism and these issues are i hand full of the twenty six hundred people are here many of which to talk business today at work and to continue on in the status quo many big corporations and big banks

that have very much benefited from the current form of western capitalism and when you hear really the establishment figures asked about western capitalism in its current form they're very much in favor of it they're not checked questioning it at all yesterday we heard that from brian moynihan c.e.o. of bank of america today i heard that from david cameron the u.k. prime minister when he was asked directly that question and as the political and economic leaders there the big wigs are all there in this one place some argue that this of that is just a bunch of pomp and circumstance rather than generating real solutions to world problems what is the feeling that you're getting over there. well the telling i'm getting because you have to remember liz yes all of the sessions are going on but really what i'm seeing is the sidelines and the people that i'm talking to since joseph stiglitz and brian moynihan. some of these guys won't talk to me the guys i'm talking to are the business leaders i spoke to a governor today i spoke to

a couple of people that are our diplomats from from britain and for all of them the benefit to this is the business deals are the meetings is the networking some of them you know it's day two of davos and they haven't been to a single session so for a lot of these people it is business and that's really the agenda also everyone kind of has an agenda even from the big wigs that are speaking whether it's investors or c.e.o.'s they have a reason for you know bill gates does a press conference but it's to announce the money he's giving to george soros talks to the press has a prince lunch he has a new book out he's very much pushing that with the same kind of rhetoric that he's writing in the financial times and saying to everybody at the forum so everyone kind of has an agenda liz. we also hear what people are on twitter are saying about davos let's see if it matches up with what you are observing over there all over willis he says a lead hobnobbing with elites about elitist things pretty much what's wrong with

the world and your king says next to two bankers at the bar of a fancy davos hotel they are talking about the crisis and smiling not quite sure what's so funny. so what do you think laura. yeah liz you do get that sense you don't hear a questioning of this system a rethinking of things really you hear solutions and concerns from the people that have been operating and benefiting from the system that we're currently in so and yes they are elites and many of them are the global one percent seventy billionaires politicians. all of these people they are very much the global elite so you can imagine that this allusions they find in the problems they're talking about are very much the ones that pertain to them and there is kind of that that separation you definitely see that being pressed you feel like a little bit of

a second class citizen i have to say sorry to hear that. maybe the occupy movement won't make you feel that way and i know that they are there they set up some igloos outside of the. would you say that their message and their presence is affecting the dialogue there at all. you know i wouldn't say that it's affecting the dialogue because although we've seen discussion of occupy and the movements from again klaus schwab who's the founder of the world economic forum i've also heard snickering on the sidelines from businessmen snickering at the occupy igloos that are here saying oh they really lack the numbers what i will say is if you're going to have a protest igloos are a really good way to go because i think that our cuba has been mentioned in a lot more of the news stories that i've seen and then pretty much any of the other occupy protests that i've seen since this movement started in new york in wall street so i think they're getting some bang for their buck with the igloos as far

as public awareness not sure if it really matters when it comes to the agenda of what's really going on and being discussed at the world i guess that's more interesting to talk about igloos than lauren thanks for keeping us updated that was our if he is lauren lyster host of the capital account. and be sure to tune into the capital account coming up after four thirty pm loren will die even further into the issues of leaders are facing at this year's world economic forum and then later in the show guest host of meet your coconuts we'll talk about we'll talk to former vice chairman of the fed alan blinder about the federal open market committee is decision to keep interest rates low until two thousand and fourteen so stick around . and as the one percent thinks about how to tweak the capitalist system another group wants to radically change it and they're holding a forum of their own it is called the world social forum and it's taking place now

in porto alegre brazil brazil president dilma rousseff decided to ditch the elites and instead attend an event which has brought together a medley of social movement groups from around the globe the event rivals the exclusive forum happening now and doll that so can the world social forum shake things up enough to change the system let me answer this question and more is lou rockwell chairman of the lute with them is this institute. welcome a lou so we have several different groups of from the arab spring occupy wall street spain's indignant movement taking part of this forum what do they all have in common. well i think probably not every evil person in the world is. in porto alegre but what they all have in common is they want to run our lives they want to rip us off for their goals and because of davis' the banks there isn't all the corporate status the politicians who are in league with them the importer alegria we have all the n.g.o.s and the people who want to strangle economic growth put their foot on the

face of the poor and crush them through you know ending economic growth through all the climate change nonsense and sort of is there the al gore people but they're really connected because if we think of al gore himself he's that he's also a corporate status he could be a devil's or reporter allegro and i would say even though these these groups have different rhetoric and they have a little bit a different ideological orientation they're almost interchangeable because they want to have much bigger government really at the tallit tarion world government to benefit themselves and hurt the rest of us so this is both of these groups comprised you know the one percent. that is connected to government and lives off government and crushes the rest of us or so or so they hope but of course there's a lot of opposition all over this world there are people who want real capitalism not social democracy or socialism as importer alegria or fascism or corporate statism as in as in davus but actually like

a real free market we don't want to be ripped off or the banks or is or the climate change artist we'd like to have been able to live our own lives raise our own families run our own businesses their own neighborhoods or own our own countries and not have these groups both of which one world government not have to get them you know get them the heck out of our laws and so we're seeing these competing movements that won and brazil is kind of the anti capitalist movement they're saying that capitalism it's not working for something else needs to take its place and what that way is there are alternatives. well first of all what they mean by capitalism is the current state capitalist or or really fascist system the corporate state the combination of big businesses big banks big government operating it's the rest of us mussolini style so of course that doesn't work it's a it's a disaster morally and economically of what they want however is more you know this is more of a of

a pure socialist nature where you have again the state running everything making everybody poor bringing on huge pollution as we saw in every every socialist state people still suffering from that today. so there they have exactly the wrong path the people on dab most of the wrong path to both of these groups or their false alternatives and it's little bit like in the us doing what the republicans of the democrats you know they have different rhetoric but both of them agree that they and the government and the big businesses they are associated with should be ripping the rest of us off so we need another alternative this is we don't need to put a real ignored or davis we need freedom. and so what do you think help successful do you think they are over in brazil and getting their message out i mean they're supposed to serve as a rival to the world economic forum and how how effective do you think they are getting this message across. for their very effective the media find them

a very sympathetic group since they most of the people in the media not our team necessarily of course. believe in the sorts of things that the people of puerto rico a group pushing and they have they have a huge amount of money they have tremendous connections to all the powerful and so they are able to get their message out but just as i think the whole climate change business has declined in influence i think their point of view is declining too so i think and hope anyway that as far as regular people are concerned they're not going to buy into this but the elites the elites love it the elites love it they have some of the elites involved in puerto relay grow some of them are involved in divorce but none of them have actually put this exactly our interests at heart they want to gain power and money through the government through operating through the state and they all have their own little plans as to how we should live our laws and we don't need either one of these groups so it sounds like you are not one of our not in the least bit by either of this group the farm in brazil or the forum

and davos i guess in your opinion what is the worst of the two evils. well i think probably it's tough to tell but i think probably davis is the worst because it has the most powerful people connected to it even more powerful than the people in porto alegre they have all the huge international businesses as well as of course the u.s. government the federal reserve the european central bank bank of japan i mean all the central banks of the world all the big banks that are connected to them and the big international corporations that want to get cozy with the government so probably davis is more powerful but the people of puerto electorate do a huge amount of harm to everything they promote again makes poor people poor or makes middle class people poor it may have but it helps the the super rich who are connected to government even though they pretend to be concerned about. the poor and they're not they hurt the poor and the people and i was of course couldn't care

less either although they may use that rhetoric and all their talk and devils about a new form of capitalism we don't actually have capitalism right now we have state capitalism guided capitalism corporate statism again a form of fascism that's that that is the that is the current economic system and most of the world today is one or another form of fascism and of course both of these both of these groups are for turning up the police state they want to control our lives in every sense they're all for all these police state agencies there are again global government both of these groups think there is nothing beyond the state the state wants to do anything to you they should have the power to do it they are not necessarily doing it but they should have the power to control any aspect of your life tell you what kind of light bulb you should have in your house if you thinking about quarter a leg or what the how of the size of your toilet tank what's the paint you can paint your basement wall with i mean down to down to that kind of that kind of minutia they want control of every aspect of our lives and the divorced people may

not be concerned about your toilet tank but they're definitely concerned about controlling us politically economically. and making us just serves on their plantations so these are two terrible choices that we should as true both of them and just lastly want to ask you so we have a glimmer cow and davos she recently gave a speech and that we have the president of brazil who decided to debts that davos to go to porto alegre so how would you compare the two we you know i think under merkel is a perfect example of you know everything that's wrong i mean for example how does a woman who was a youth leader in the east german communist party become head of the christian democrats i mean here's somebody who was an actual you know that was her job and of course she's entirely in league with the banks despite all her rhetoric about well we're not going to tax the german people anymore we're not going to punish the german people for for their country.