my. my. oh yes and welcome to the spotlight they interview show on hard to our in our brand play we're talking about of lead a very potent election manifesto the current prime minister who runs for president in march has published a new article seen as part of this electro program this time he focuses mostly on ethnic diversity immigration and national these are indeed very important issues in modern russia and they are among put biggest concern now how can these problems be tackled if put is elected and should we then expect toughening of the immigration laws all the more emphasis will be placed on a multicultural education we're asking political analyst bill carcache and wall entrance chief are the ones going. to do favorite in russia's presidential election

race prime minister vladimir putin will not be participating in public debates with the other contenders for the office instead he's putting forward his vision of how the country should develop in newspaper articles which as soon as he's election manifestos the first one called russia concentrate challenges we must address was published a week ago and provided a broad outline of putin's election they janda in particular it was aimed at the country's middle class and was viewed as a response to those who took to the streets in december protest in the do my election results this week's article touches upon the issues of migration and xenophobia are putin opposes the policy of multiculturalism and speaks in favor of uniting russia's multi ethnic society under the banner of russian culture and values. hold your little walked into this show

thank you very much for being with us well we just we just saw. this video about about there the new and the other part of putin's. and election strategy is well pretty well do you agree that this is really his manifesto published chapter by chapter in the press well i would believe this see a lecture campaign and this is a short resource or because obviously put in try to pleasurable sites here for it to send a message to can i am official meat or else that they should be fred at the same time here send a message to the russian ethnic majority this is should be afraid if there arise were protected against the rights of my consul soul just for authority but no matter what is hot at plenty of this or would you would you agree that this issue the this city issue may become the major issue of this year's election campaign i think it could be perfect later this year we'll probably see

a shift towards economic issues because as we know there is this developing world crisis particularly from europe in the united states so it may be that now nationalism is high on the agenda but later in the year we might see. economic issues tied together with a national issue. and if if there are job losses then of course people will be concerned about. you know who is taking the brunt of this economic crisis whether it is ethnic russians or or other people well let's go back to two two putin steps the text here's how the prime minister sees russia's historic model of interethnic relations. historically in russia as we neither him only use the new us style melting point where people are easily migrants brushwood move through the centuries is a multinational street you print. you do need to interact and connect with each

other domestic international women's and into scientists and friends. well this point his own words putin is consistently referring to russians not as all citizens of russia but to russians as an ethnic group other than that are those who want to yeah you know the jews and others well what would it be better to to call russians all the i mean this it is i mean there is such a problem in britain there are british people and english people so they're so so. are we creating the same problem in russia or where there's no problem with lies i mean it's a good example to compare with britain because britain is somewhere that really has embraced this multi cultural ism over the years maybe the current government wants to step back from that and i think that putin in his article said that some leading

politicians in europe are stepping back from this multiculturalism now but i think there's a danger in that because even though putin says he wants to avoid division that if you make one ethnic group the dominant group and that is what you see running through his article again and again that russians are the dominant group then you will tend to marginalize the other groups this is different from the soviet times when everybody was on a more equal basis well you see is this a mental rees that he's missing while he point actually for russian identity as a q was most of man's a right or blot on the right of land because russian a was. so-called choice between a russian empire. where you had the right to be called prussian if you weigh up the talks which are solved but well famous here or beggar recount here was a war for eight hundred twelve he was half armenian higher for george. but he was

russian because he was a creature who didn't have this problem in the soviet union because all the people well so it took over thirty people and there were russians those barracks you could you know i mean in europe they still call all of us russians including the ukrainians the joyride crocus asshole i mean i think these russians from moscow are different from russians from key of the of course yes there was a mystery as they do as the russian ybarra the russians for a united by itself a little squishy anyway and it really goes through you want so he knew and they were united by so it was what what wages we say should be united not well let's hear how putting formulates his nation building strategy. we need a national policy strategy be used on syria casualties breeze no need for anyone living in russia to get their religion or ethnicity but they should identify themselves primarily as citizens of russia and take pride in that no one has the right to. religious interest the bomb goes off the land in the same time nationals

must take into account the specific characteristics you can have any religious group. as similarly said in one of the passages put in calls ethnic russians this state constituent people. that are there isn't it contradict the constitution of the russian federation which says that that russia is constituted by its multi ethnic people well as always if not for the fun of us this is a matter of interpretation how we should enter because it could make a claim to z. and city should carry it and yet it can get its own interpretation which would be correct with wooden rules but as of my tories there is no engine provided for z's russian nation to be combined because its new city is a key it was blood shed after this have several centuries when russians were called idols christians and so people so that means it is a risk terrible ethnic mix call to all the best techniques to be just called

russians and now he will try to find ethnic roots and he will get the conflict very soon as he got what should be new ones a time of the soviet union collapse to you you mention multiculturalism in europe well putin is stating as a known fact i quote the failure of the multicultural prior project and even a crisis of a nation state well i personally agree to this opinion which is expressed by many of my colleagues in the west but do you think it makes sense for a for a calendar that. through the presidency two to two to choose this categorical option well i think it's very interesting that he seems to be playing a soft nationalism guard if you like not a hard nationalism card but i think that if you look down the road into russia's future demographics shows us that the people who are not the ethnic russians are

going to become a larger and larger. percentage of the population you know that the migration routes are yes and because people you know in every country of the world migrants eventually become citizens and feel a loyalty to that country but they don't necessarily buy into the ethnic composition they want to retain their ethnic composition i think that putin is trying to respect everyone's an ethnic traditions and religion but he's he's facing a very difficult. situation because on the one hand he has the liberals who are criticizing him for being too author terry and on the other hand he has the nationalists who are looking to scapegoat certain groups from caucasus and central asia and he's stuck in the middle really it's quite a difficult situation and it's even more difficult when he has to to to take a decision during the election campaign well according to putin i quote if

a multi ethnic society is infected with the virus of nationalism it loses the strength and stability we writes putin must understand the far reaching consequences of indulging those who are trying to incite ethnic strife and hatred towards people of other cultures and states and quote but this this warning made by the prime minister in his article had out with with the nomination with employment of the meeting of our boys in a known nationalist we were where we were who expressed his nationalistic views as a vice premier and one of the closest allies in the putin elections that well you see of course an appointment as clear message to the east but there's a part of society we just. would like to support zim already call russian nationalism visible right but have russian nationalists agenda another side of the

problems that if you'll take a european history no one country. was able to balance for a long time on this age between the construct of nationalism with the one who can because constructive constructive positive things and the age after all at the heart rate and the. other nations are starting to look at a little bit of this sort of a balance maybe dangerous this sort of balance nobody will succeed to keep his balance in a long time well we'll talk about it in just a minute i just want to remind our viewers that our guests today are a key. political analyst and news editor in chief tim wall spotlight will be back short shortly after a break so stay with us don't go. to

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back to spotlight i'm just a reminder that my guests on the show today are a key deal cock this political analyst and the editor in chief of the moscow news tim wall we're discussing let me put in this the recent article which is considered to be. published part of his election program. platform or whatever well one of the issue is that president touches in this in this article dedicated to the nationalities ethnic problem is he proposes a creation of a new nationality is a ministry well then there's a question why did putin close down a special national as ministry back in two thousand and one if it's a good solution to the ethnic problems well let's let's hear what putin writes about it. i believe that the federal government should set up

a special agents you're responsible for its development the internet you can do work and interaction these problems are currently the responsibility of the ministry of regional development unfortunately with the overwhelming volume of how do you choose them to deal with these matters are often pushed to the back this needs to change. well and i don't know about you colleagues but i see a contradiction putin himself closed this ministry. but about ten years ago when he was president now he proposes to open it again so but he does admit that that was a mistake so was go on how can you answer this question. well i think that we always have a different situation now from ten years ago and the big difference is that at the time that of course was the the war going on in chechnya and we've moved on from that time. some of the problems of the caucasus and have been solved in our time

and some of them haven't and other ones have arisen and there is still i would argue this seventy official fostered you know atmosphere where people from the former soviet republics living in russia. and from different nationalities are attacked on a regular basis and very little is done to catch the killers or to really combat this if this ministry could do something about that could really foster friendship perhaps a little bit more in the soviet model between peoples then it could be a positive thing but we have to see in the construction that i see in this proposal putin curial is that well by proposing to create a body create a ministry put in x. not like a politician not like a political but like

a bureaucrat because you know the answer of a bureaucrat to any question is we will create a commission a ministry i want to yes yes and the other side's friesian of commission would provoke bureaucrats to exploit the national of the themes so expect a national or able reach shoes sooner than anything else from the restoration of this ministry because when you appointed bureaucrats to settle any problem that means that you will you will have the process of maximization of this problem because bureaucrats will have something to do so so so according to to your mood at least i don't think you believe that this this body whatever is going to be may solve the problem of migration of migrants are very i am afraid said these particular sure. sharpens its program and can make or reasons to convey this problem into a real problem to zoe if multiculturalism may not work this is doomed to fail you see the myths about the reason you can. be called culture isn't as a policy can

a book also but you shoot the girl and the target and the conditions hols these identities that ms multicultural and into the can work because when you propose to see yours it isn't any identity for example russian i dated a citizen i dated that means if you propose construct that you get it you fools the rules in you will get z.z.z. senseis still no contract proposed here so as there is no reason why it should be called myself russian and why i should call myself any other nations because no no policy to from said end it was i think that the fundamental problem that russia faces in its development with regard to the regions of the country is of course connected to russia strength its huge territory. you see the periphery of russia the far north the far east the far west kaliningrad in the the south these areas are marginalized and there is this real over concentration of power in the center

in moscow and this process was accelerated perhaps during putin's tenure thurst ten year tenure because he wanted to keep the country together but now i think there's a growing realisation that this process has gone too far and we need to have more more decentralization how that works is very difficult another line input in this article of the ring a bell for my generation of people who remember the soviet times especially my parents who remember the old of the old communist the real communists than the stalin times is and i quote the mystic migration has been growing in this country people travel to other constituent turned trees are the federation. or to big cities to study to live and to work and that listen they are food citizens of russian federation but we have to toughen registry shouldn't rules and the penalties for breaching these rules end quote well that surely does ring

a bell effectively put in is preparing a toughening of the so called preppies car the the binding people to the place of residence while this didn't work this was practically abolished twenty years ago now are we getting back what more do i misunderstand something of his policy of protections the ethnic russians so as he says. it is a matter to do something vs a mess for yourselves i mean my cross especially of the migrants of. groups like muslim groups like asia groups like chinese that are now are coming into russian territory well i will always be another think russian big but this perhaps kyra the ethnic russians were never happy with it even if it were when it was very young because it it discriminates against muscovites and everybody else if you are non if you are non muscovite and of course as we all know it's easy to buy your property square you know it's not something that actually works properly its it only works

there was a system of drivers who use a piece in english so purpose is like vodka and my trash is one of the words understood world why do true maybe do i think i think maybe four maybe five or maybe for foreigners who live in russia this is one of the key words that we come to understand as part of the system but i just i just think it's an outdated system here we are twenty first century russia in my view has to meet the challenge from the east this is the big challenge russia has to develop the far east of its territory economically because if russia does not then the chinese will come over and do it for them as a foreigner living in russia what do you expect from the propose. a new set of rules and changes proposed by. a lot of reputed because these registration rules they're always annoying they were annoying for me when i when i went there was a going to leave so what do you expect after you read this article i do think there's going to be changes for you foreigners for the west for the worse off for

the better right i said i think that in general the russian government tries not to do too much to antagonize let's let's call them the western specialists who come here they try to make life reasonably comfortable they want more investment yes they want to attract people to it it's never it's never that comfortable but i think that the small inconvenience that that westerners face is nothing compared to the inconvenience that the russians and. russian citizens and citizens from the former cia s face another very interesting thing and a very popular thing is that put it once to pose a set of exams for foreigners residing in russia let's hear. from next year migrants must be required to pass a russian language cast russian history and literature to just under tasks in the russian system stede and russian law in order to get permission to reside like

other developed countries russia is able to provide migrants with the relevant classes all through professional training be required in a number of cases and the uighurs expands. you we both tried to talk to tim in russian and we both hope he spoke better russian than he does of course but what do you think does for example at tragic who sweeping the street have to have to know i have to pass an exam in russian and russian history russian parts to change which is a pretty very tough thing for russian for some russians to be good by the impression is that it means existence you will have to pay a bribe so it's quite the easier the wall the maximize and bribes the capacity of system so if you break up because the corruption yes in the lower levels of your break this is will be just a boost of corruption that nothing else surely is usually happens because no mechanism provided or from what ford does it that she should dump russian culture russian constitution well to sweep streets miles there is absolute knowledge well

and also this may be an additional burden for companies that are employing. foreigners yes i think so. i mean i think it's something that should be encouraged and i would say the same about you know my country united kingdom that these so-called nationality tests. are becoming tougher and tougher and i think it's around the world now you know we're entering into an era of protectionism where jobs are scarce where people don't want foreigners coming in and so this is a way to. to kind of stem the flow do you think the brits may have the recipe may have a good advise how to tackle the problem because i'm not sure that that you have sold yourself in britain but the but it's not it's not as burning as in some of the countries like sometimes it is burning in russia so did is their advice sure but i mean i i would say that no country has actually solve this problem all together but

i would look more i think these days the united states i know that. but i'm a person has sort of three generations it's a different story america but but at the same time it's a nice philosophy united states that as soon as you come across and you get your union and you and you and you get your citizenship your god does not merican and when one generation you can go to the white house running out of time to couple ways for me to well actually just replied to that remark well actually i had the money to leave the american people support as well as well well actually at the pace it's on félicie and different different policy different fellas pictured in nor was this is the problem a challenge for the whole conference for your pm coffee for their so-called middle dinner in a conference to which we all belong how to deal be the current challenge and no one reset because first time and say he's three you reply it's par were to integrate

mike ross and to kind of read some of the part of your thank you is a change thank you thank you gentlemen just to the mind of the political analyst. and the moscow news editor in chief tim wall all my guests on the show spotlight will be back with more first time comments on the once again only on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take care.

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