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here to speak to some of the free syrian army members as well because of course a very little is known about who exactly these people are really have made it very very clear to us just how divided the country is now becoming whilst we were that there was sort of a moment of confusion we did hear gunshots in the background some of the crowd got nervous and started running which for we we were all sort of told to it was ever safer to leave and we've then left that area a very tense situation certainly a very dangerous situation for the civilians in this area as well you gave these suburbs you can see bullet holes in the walls it's not really clarence so much of the country now who exactly has control of the fact that this is now happening in a suburb just fifteen minutes will say from the city center here in damascus where he goes to show you just how much the situation here is now deteriorating or russia has made its position extremely clear that they're not going to back the western resolution whilst it doesn't rule out the sanctions the military intervention
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they've put their own proposal forward and you've had this sort of back and forth with neither sides really being able to come to some form of agreement i mean the big sticking point here really is the military intervention people so many different factions in the country it is even more still here in the country very very hard to really understand who exactly is in charge where he was the voice of the people because this is a originally a peaceful protest movement even now got increasingly armed opposition groups and there's reports today that saudi arabia that could have said that they're going to be backing the opposition and providing funding and arms as well and the last thing that anyone wants to see here at the moment is that this conflicts of become even more armed even more violent because the daily death toll is you know just devastatingly high at the moment talking to the people in this suburb today they were extremely emotional you know the people here in this country have lost all
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sense of safety all sense of security. so first report in the for us let's get some more insight from middle east is joining us from our high the arab league's repeatedly called on president assad to step down how much is this call influenced by countries like qatar and saudi arabia right now i think it's stemming mainly from those countries i mean really looking on this to a sure about three quarters of the arab league members are on the side that's calling for assad to step down but obviously i don't think it's helpful at the moment not because of the assad has any legitimacy but i think the sort of blundering intervention that the arab league is leading and we saw that recently with the sound of the monitors is actually confusing this to asian in syria further and further and it's kind of raising the hopes of the syrian people and then letting them crush down so i think in fact what needs to be done is for all
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external actors to step away from this conflict and allow the dynamic of what really the syrian people want to emerge they're just pouring kind of oil on the fire at the moment you know we saw a graphic in her graphic there from sara how it is affecting the everyday people in syria as this drags on for over a year now the fear that they're going through every day and the latest reports say that more than fifty people have been killed in just the last two days of bloody term or they're the opposition forces blaming the loyalist forces whatever but yet the free syrian army are taking armed control of parts of the capital that can't be denied why there's the west seem to be turning a blind eye to what is not appearing to be at all a peaceful opposition. well to be honest let's put this in a bit of a context because as your report said very clearly that this started as a series of peaceful demonstrations and the taking of the arms at the moment has to be conceived as a form of self-defense however i think where the western angle comes in is where
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mothers the issue is because you quite clear that the west is only trying to kind of stablish some sort of moral credibility out of this claim the moral high ground and be very vocal and in ways kind of hint at certain interventions without actually having any clear plan and thus is ending up problematize in the stew agent even further so for example on one hand it could be giving signals to some syrian opposition groups that if they actually continue in a certain direction that that would be supported while actually it doesn't seem at all that the west knows what it wants to do or what is the policy that it wants to dr words syria so again a very muddled thinking about syria the making of the situation on the ground i'm assuring us that much much more complicated you say a bit earlier call about the main actors in this calling and getting away from
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center stage pulling back a bit several could take a breath of course there's another school of thought because of the growing number of deaths. fueling calls for some sort of foreign intervention in sanctions two year. sorry i just missed that last part i was going to say there's another school of thought saying as the deaths continue these actors should get more involved there should be more foreign sanctions or should be more intervention. yes i'm aware of this increasingly with you've been seeing been hearing mostly foreign policy experts in the west and particularly in the states calling for this particularly from the notion that there is a duty to protect but i find this really really a problematic notion and if you look at the history of intervention of the west and particularly the united states in the area in the area in the past twenty years it's only created more problems than the problem is this kind of trying to dress it up as a humanitarian intervention there are no clear outcomes there are no clear targets
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there are no kind of strategies for choosing who you allow yourself with all of that at the same time stifles the development of. whatever genuine opposition in syria could develop to create an alternative for the future because the parties that are going to be favored by the west will will ultimately kind of have better sponsorship or better support so i think the west should learn from its mistakes and kind of abandon this misplaced launch and that it's their responsibility to sort out the situation in syria and go back to first principles and leave it to the syrians themselves thanks ever so much for your thoughts it's appreciated culture there mideast blogger thanks for joining us on the line from london thank you. polish protesters are gathering in front of the presidential palace in warsaw as part of a week of rallies after the government signed up to illiteracy international web piracy pact earlier peace there don't be anonymous hacker groups masks to show
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their content on his legs jeff skis following what's happening for us in warsaw. they are here to protest protest against act the anti cons of the trade agreement which poland signed on thursday along with twenty one other european union member states and it is here in poland in fact the only country in the e.u. where protests have been having very strong movement here in fact tens of thousands of people have been protesting over the past three or four days everywhere across poland we went to a little town of lubin on thursday and even there where the population of roughly exceeds one hundred thousand people almost three thousand of three or four thousand people hit the streets in protest against act clearly people in poland are unhappy with the fact that their government signed this document they believe that it would be used against regular internet users to police the web to block websites for
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harmless actions and their message the only the clear message that these people are having here in the crowd is no internet censorship it's twenty one even member states which signed for it the document will become effective in all the countries once their parliaments ratified and the european parliament says that i'm seeing something this these people here are hoping for because even the polish authorities have now taken a step back and they say that they're if occasion will not necessarily happen as it had been predicted by many experts and the european in fact there's been a scandal in the european parliament already with a french deputy in the european parliament already resigning because of actors essentially act is about protecting intellectual property from music and books to different designer clothes and pharmaceuticals but the people here protesting in poland they are afraid that because parishioners would be able to close down websites for let's say harmless links to videos or t.v. shows or movies or something which most of the uses they do on every day basis so
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they think that this document will be misused by b. corporations and by the authorities and the whole already have been said. all examples of that this document actually has a striking resemblance to this so to a bill in the united states so clearly the warsaw protests are the only ones in europe so far but we could be seeing more and more rallies and more protest actions across europe as the parliament's face the rich a vacation of actor in the nearest several weeks. eastern europe correspondent now a few minutes from now on the program tonight the euro undergoes financial forensics in switzerland. alps at the davos world economic forum to try to sort out the highs and lows of the global economy deeply in trouble and the future of the eurozone we'll have more coming up here so i can tell you not a word we missed later libya's new government speaking accused of torture and abuse in detention centers made from cheers suspending its mission right now in misrata
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saying it's repeatedly treating patients for injuries sustained during interrogation with thousands of gadhafi loyalists ill behind bars raising key questions about the people need to help bring the power goes out is riff national explained. doctors without borders known for going do their job in the most dangerous and notorious places around the globe but in n t c run libya the group has encountered a formidable obstacle they couldn't overcome burns through electric shocks and cigarettes heavy bruising and renal failure all this evidence of the continue to churn of prisoners say the doctors and now after two inmates died from beatings the international group has stopped its mission in protest. patients were brought to us in the middle of interrogation for medical care in order to make them fit for further interrogation this is an acceptable our rule is to provide medical care to war casualties and sick detainees not to repeatedly treat the same patients between
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torture sessions the news comes amidst rising anger with libya's interim government demonstrations in benghazi last week ended with the resignation of a high ranking member of the m.t.c. in the former gadhafi stronghold of bani walid locals pushed out their terms it's not council forces claiming systematic abuse it started with the very beginning of the rebellion very beginning of the insurrection the second day of the rebellion on eighteenth of february the african migrants were rounded up locked in a detention center and burnt to death and the n.p.c. expressed support for this time and this is part of the strategy of the west you know divide and rule and that was given the green light of the torture and execution that we're seeing now so this is a clear recipe for civil war meanwhile the nato operation that brought the m.t.c. to power is by itself raising questions. a high
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profile international team of human rights activists has been to leave here to investigate some of may two that had present at eve's were with their evolution in the fronds and there were guiding the air raids and they are getting them and court again meeting them if you are mandated. to protect the radios that you are it is very very accurate in a way that i myself saw the killing of so many people in front of my my eyes i saw the killing go fifty one people in front of my eyes was fifteen years old and while all sides in the libyan conflict are to blame for violence and violations the human rights activists claim not all of them have been held responsible for their wrongdoings investigating what happened during libya's seven months civil war and
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the nato campaign to protect civilians this fact the mission discovered again crimes against humanity but the goal was not to jog but to shed light on what happened and not to repeat the mistakes in recent united nations report has reviewed that up to eight thousand pro khadafi supporters have been held by militia groups in libya right now and with numerous occasions of torture and revenge killings throughout the country hopes of a new beginning for libya are fading quickly. r.t. . well we're keeping an eye on developments around libya without c dot com and many other stories that if you like these tonight russia's political playing field elections boss refuting claims of parliamentary poll violations while the shortlist has been announced as who's running for president you keep cross all the developments in the politics section tarty dot com run up to march. and nature gives norway heck of a night to remember beautiful aurora borealis there you sit back enjoy the show
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with the most spectacular northern lights displays in a long time it was all because of that sudden burst that happened or that we can look at the result of it more pictures are two parties you tube channel two. the delegates in davos had their money on the table today at the world economic forum as they discussed the euro the dollar there you are now the struggling eurozone and the future of heavily indebted greece was inevitably also on the cards with cautious optimism and sharp criticism alike marti's lauren lyster is a. we heard from a number. also from vice president of the economic and monetary affairs for the european commission we heard them all speak today in a panel and strike an optimistic note that they believe that things will be resolved now many people would disagree with that but as far as the people on stage . and was confident that the greek bondholders will come to an agreement on
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greek debt write downs and haircuts this week and that's kind of what made the major headlines and also believing that the fiscal compact the tighter fiscal compact for the eurozone will come together and a meeting on monday and that would impose of course fines for people that are countries rather break the deficit and debt ceiling rules we saw today that spain their unemployment rate came out a seventeen year high of twenty two point five percent the finance minister from spain says that this is the biggest issue facing the spanish economy and we know spain is one of the largest economies in europe also a lot of disagreement over euro zone solutions we've seen george soros we've seen david cameron we've seen some finance ministers to timothy geithner say a larger fire wall is needed basically saying more bailout funds need to be committed from angela merkel's remarks we heard earlier this week she was trying to convince people that europe would be fine without pledging more money timothy geitner we did hear from today the u.s. treasury secretary i thought was pretty interesting he said that the two biggest
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issues facing the u.s. economy that will determine its outcome are what happens in the euro zone and whether or not the u.s. congress can agree on some short term solutions for the u.s. economy i thought this was quite interesting because although yes the eurozone economy very much weighs on the united states i've heard from a tie an economist for example that year and the u.s. they're much more pessimistic about europe and maybe part of that is coming from the fact that it is an easy scapegoat for u.s. politicians to say oh what's going on in the u.s. is dependent on europe when in reality the u.s. has some major problems of its own a major debt overhang both private and. the fed has been very active in trying to restate the economy but unaffected unaffected does far high unemployment more than sixty percent of people that either don't have work or want more work you know these are some real issues that they're eurozone has nothing to do at any congress that is bitterly divided in an election year is not likely to pass much so some real concerns that aren't being addressed here well we're going to talk euro zone next with their home mr gray the chief lawmaker bodden of the british newspaper the
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independent amish very good evening to you from moscow good to see you tonight the eurozone was bound to come our way did today u.s. treasury secretary timothy geithner echoing british pm david cameron calling for more cash to be committed to rescue the european economy we've heard that before but germany doesn't agree of course so what is the way forward do you think well it's very difficult i don't think you have to be a whiz at math to figure out that it's not just the indecisiveness of some countries with greece at the lead but also huge debts in italy much much bigger economy but also the euro who the common currency does is a single currency for an area where some countries need a devaluation in other words you can go on lending more money you can go on divvying up but if the economies don't get themselves more competitive with each
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other you've still got the problem culture when you bias against the war blame someone else occurs to me germany's finance minister blamed david cameron for europe's failure to agree on a common plan to reduce debt even though as i take it you say it would work anyway i think it's just being made a bit of a fall guy here. i think that david cameron you know probably did not handle this diplomatically well you don't you don't use your veto if you can possibly avoid it but the reality is that this plan to have a fiscal compact has really difficult because there are all of the european countries that you know are going to have huge difficulty getting through their own legislators and since the euro didn't follow the last fiscal compact stability and growth was why should we believe that this one will will actually stick and of course the key player here greece it's been so much trouble all along
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its financial troubles came up europe's top economist saying a deal is very close of then we hear from i.m.f. chief christine lagarde she isn't very optimistic or wants athens creditors to make a better offer is going to push greece finally into default look i don't know whether technically greece is going to be in default or not but if you'll reap a thirty or forty cents in the euro your debt and the write down is going to something like that could be for you to say forty if you're lucky thirty if you're unlucky that it any rational sense is a country defaulting on its debts and whether technically that it is or whether it takes seems to me to be not that relevant because once you've dealt with greece ok you try and have to put a fireball behind that but people may say look if i'm not going to get my money back on greece why should i learn to portugal why should i lend to spain why should
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i lend to italy good point well fitch don't seem to hold much score in the last hour or so we're hearing that they've now just cut the scores of five euro zone states they're not very confident they can sort this out including italy and spain how is that going to undermine recovery efforts. well i saw that one come through i have to say it's not unexpected they'd given a warning to three weeks ago from memory that they might like to do this but one need to do this we've had a s. and p. downgrade i can't remember off the top of my head what moody's doing but i think some of their already downgraded i think that's a down the the agencies are actually following what the markets are doing they're not running ahead of the crucial role in the rockaways no that's what i'm saying crucial has got it wrong going the wrong way here any more optimistic i mean world without in mind with an how long do you think investors are going to hang around waiting for europe or the u.s.
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for that matter to sort itself out you think sometime soon are we taking more money over to china maybe instead not in the short term in the short term the europeans and the americans the brits for that matter can and will print the money you can always bring down your rates in the short just printing more money you give it to the banks you tell them to go and invest it in french french new you refuse or italian or whatever and they've done that over the last three or four weeks rates have come down a little bit not for all portugal still in trouble but the trouble is you can't just print the money endlessly and i think in the in the medium term. there will have to be much bigger explosion and you can't put you can push it along for a bit but not forever they're always comes at their reckoning because their missionary could have a program chief economic correspondent of the independent newspaper thank you.
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coming up on the program we'll bring it to the more world news in brief this time we'll go there and talk about a blast of the city a funeral procession of baghdad it's killed at least thirty two people and wounded sixty five explosions struck as mourners gathered to bury a person killed a day earlier there have been more than two hundred deaths since the beginning of the year now an increasing sick terror in attacks since the american troops left in december it's a grim picture there. but further that capsized cruise ship off italy's coast is now offering passengers fourteen thousand dollars each in compensation it's also promising to refund medical and transport expenses and ironically the cost of a holiday sixteen people are confirmed dead over a dozen remain missing the ship ran aground off tuscany two weeks ago with more than four thousand people aboard. sixty kilos of cocaine have been seized at the wait for it un headquarters in new york it turned up last week marked with a fake u.n. insignia and it came from mexico the global body insist neither it nor its staff
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were the intended recipients it's thought a bit of bungled attempt by traffickers to get drugs into the u.s. in a few minutes an r.t. crosstalk debates why the libyan militias who overthrew colonel gadhafi won't obey their new leaders talk about that after the business with dimitri now. in a warm welcome to business r t the devil's economic forum is displaying signs of a split personality this year the likes of the i.m.f. david cameron and george soros warning of potential catastrophe as well on the other side is a number of heavyweight industrialists who think much of the rescue work has been done among them is under a course in the head of russia's second largest bank p.t.b. . there was a practical discussions on for example the introduction of new regulations for.
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banks and financial sector. with the lead it was on the of course it will take maybe two to three years to implement it but at least there's no just a general debate some very practical things which now being discussed though there's a stupid beat on the future of europe. a lot has been it's a lot of discussions already happened between the politicians and it looks now the common solution in a much closer that was one or two years ago the russian government is mulling raising taxes for business first deputy prime minister says it should be done in a way that will boost regional development while having a minimum impact on corporate growth. you know. say please don't do this because you know each percent you raise. because you. speak. so there is no you know the best recipe we tried to put this is possible you could
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raise. it to split maybe. we collect from you know create sticks we would provide for original purposes. russia's markets ended friday's session on a negative merit as g.d.p. growth in the u.s. came in short of expectations but overall the week was very positive with the r.t.s. gave me a four point seven percent over five sessions of my sex one point one percent look at the main of movers in friday's session on the my sex is better than the market up half a percent on news that the sale of the states the seven point six percent stake is most likely to happen this year deputy chairman of russia's central bank and excluded says the government is counting on the price of around one hundred rubles or three dollars per share energy majors are down despite strong world prices adding to still make at m.k. also declined the market other impressed with the seven percent production increase
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. in the market was generally pretty flat after quite a strong day yesterday the market in general is up about two and a half percent this week from monday almost and say four and a half percent in the last two weeks things look pretty healthy of the moment underneath the general strengthening the market is some secular rotation people. investors who appear to be selling oil and gas names and they're buying more banking names with names like a sperm bank and also in particular or even second tier of banks. that's all from the business team for now and join us again that eight twenty am a moscow time on monday we will be back with an update. coming.
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closer is that so much given to each musician on the market libyan intervention like in the specter of civil war libya's transitional way from the coffee machine is proving far more problematic. league. lose lose. its to.
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subsist say. see. it's kevin i would no doubt he's not updating the top stories for you at half past eleven pm moscow time syrian opposition fighters tighten their control the damascus just fifteen minutes now from the center that says the u.s. do. a closed door talks about a resolution which backs arab league calls to get president. libya's new leaders face accusations of torture as doctors without borders pull out of the city saying
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the same patients keep returning but with new interrogation injuries it's raising key questions among human rights groups about people nato help bring the. crowds gather outside the polish presidential palace as people take their anger to the top of the online. threaten his regular internet users a french piece also quit over actor. next people values crosstalk guests debate what's in store for the new libya.

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