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no look he says listen he says i'm going to writers or any sense doesn't and you can evolve why don't you read every and he later on he wants to wipe out israel which is what for a country that has had a taboo anyone we should now we only talk to the mossad harmful nation this kind of rhetoric this kind of rhetoric is not good for israel israel is a very strong country and it doesn't need this bibi netanyahu use of his kind of information i'd rather rick to get reelected he being serious indeed now the people you know i want to transcend like you are you're going to get i'm sorry for you because it's interesting to me go ahead john jump in no because what i understood as the obvious lesson obvious why he would a law i oppose working on nuclear weapons until he has them you know a ten year old child can figure that out he obviously wants to destroy your he was mayor of toronto and you think that he's lying about attack you sure of the law do you not me saying for domestic consumption it doesn't you know it just it was very powerful when i was given charge of the military you know in charge and you know
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his predecessor as president also said well what you want to gather this is what you want to do and when they launch you want to use weapons you have to go to sleep until they've got them ready you have to be an idiot to fall for that ok nader you want to follow if you want to use the propaganda tool if you if you want to use the propaganda to cause threatening remarks about a country learn about it find out more about it you have never been to iran you don't speak farsi you don't even know the could the safeguard agreement of iran if you do not invasion you cannot just open your mouth and say whatever you want when you haven't even studied the country is not that responsible if you go teach a course you don't know how to teach it how can you talk about it if you and other people like you decide to talk about iran and attacking iran find out more about it learn study it read about comprehensive there are agreements i'm forty five pages not only you haven't read it i think many of the republican candidates haven't read it and they keep talking about it they don't even know what they're talking about spend time learning and then. attack i think that's the best way john do you want
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one reply to that or we'll move on from it may i make a comment going to jump in there go ahead. well the relation between oil and iran's nuclear program all of the stork is out of all of the nuclear program the question is there is a flaw in the arguments of the united states european union and the global community about the iranians you have a weapon why the pressure on iran at a time when is there in the box stand and nor could he also have nuclear weapons before you put pressure on the air you will have to even stand that it's not stand that is before you put pressure on iran then try to parents who it is that i have to relinquish its nuclear weapons or india or pakistan or north so we
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are talking here about the nuclear program. needs and you clear out of power for alec that it's a generation to be able to say of oil for export about a wise it will be. needed and why i'm not an exporter of oil but the iranians are among averse to getting nuclear weapons so the question is if you put pressure on iran put b.c.m. by sharon is on iran and in the arrow bucks and north and then you can tilt ok i go back to john in our way here one of the things i think is really dangerous here and on both sides ok is the ratcheting up of rhetoric because when certain politicians and countries say that you know this is a red line you know if you go over this annoying and both sides are doing the revolutionary guards ok you're also saying that in iran again i'm going back to you know the ratcheting. of tension here now made i think so there's
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a certain point where we can keep it simmering i'm very dubious about that because there is absolutely no goodwill between the united states and iran we could have a tipping point here and the rhetoric that we hear coming out of western countries and out of iran is extremely dangerous. well i mean it depends how you look at it and if you think about dealings with hitler again as a good example if the west set red lines and then didn't inforce them according to our station of the rhineland and eventually there set a red line they had to defend with poland from a much weaker position than they would have been even a year and a half earlier so when there's a regime you're trying to contain you must not do certain things or does them you take action otherwise you let them do whatever they like and obviously that this is a recipe for getting stomped so yeah i would prefer to avoid war but there are things worse than war ok i mean mater what countries around planning to invade if we use the hitler example. there is no comparing iran with hitler it's this honest to the loss of millions of jews who is not is
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a hollow man is going to starve themselves how are you a liar this is you have to learn to organize one of pro israel again i figured i would like to be quiet so he can least do it is this use of comparison he has been they have been used in israeli government by bibi netanyahu and the individuals like your guest this is wrong this is discrediting all those jews that died in world war two and it's comparing something that is really not comparable he has said negative things about israel and i think going back to what your guest from london said once you go and criticize israel especially the one you regime then the wrath of the united states will come upon you with all its tools covert all over it sanctions and that's what the problem is that's what the difference between iran and those other countries are none of them have criticized israel and that's the price you pay now i'm not saying good or bad this is the decision that they don't and government has made that is the price you pay because you get at senate
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approval of a bill with one hundred to zero how often does that happen and of course it was part of the military bill but at the same time it shows that if you fool around and you criticize israel does what you did so they have to deal with it and that's what the problem is it going to what you said peter about how much everyone. i mean as you say one hundred push john you want to reply matter of saying israel anyway it's a matter of saying they should israel is going to be wiped off the bat that's not criticizing israel don't allow any nation has denied the holocaust is that he supported terrorist group problems or as you know you are liable he was not in charge like that governor and gentlemen gentlemen i have no i don't i'm joking here trying to jump in now ok let me say let me if i can go to you in london one of the things that's interesting is the i.m.f. is estimated that if this oil gambit is played out what the european union wants to do and what iran will do in retaliation or even before is that we could see as a thirty percent oil increase the price of oil going up and i mean in these
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troubled times is it really worthwhile to do that when we have the eurozone that is tipping into recession obama's chances of pulling off a reelection if the price of gasoline goes up again i mean isn't this a really playing for playing with fire at a very bad time. no it was not a war of playing with fire i thought and it was a simple symbolic political decision to stop importing iranian oil it will have no effect on iran on the contrary it will have effect on the global economy as a whole because that rhetoric could skelly it and we saw today that the price of oil has gone up by one dollar when iran and now says that it will not going to export orders to the european union. think very clearly that if there is any escalation or any sign of real escalation i project the price of oil could
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go to one fifty or one seventy dollars particularly if iran feels that it will be prevented from selling its all in and it tries to block this fleet of water was the price could go one fifty to one seventy dollars and who will be the biggest loser it is the united states because it is the biggest you result of oil it imports twelve to fourteen million barrels a day and the second one the global economy as a whole the global economy is in the area recession the orsa decision since the thirty's any increase significant increases in the oil price will mean that the global economy will not be able to recover very quickly from the war still he says it a recession it is in now ok john ramos out of time is it's worth trying to negotiate with or you just finish with negotiations or should we still give it a try because the iranians say they want to talk still what you think twenty seconds yeah they said they want to talk but they won't stop working on their
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nuclear program i think it's time we start building nuclear reactors to lessen our dependence on middle eastern oil back obama just cancel the major pipeline from canada that would have helped america develop energy independence here make planned space missions an iranian regime cannot be dealt with except for only right. very interesting discussion thank you very much many thanks my guest today in ottawa london and in irvine and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember top rules. can still. play. lead mission free accreditation free transfer charges free arrangements for free. free stereotypes free.
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warrants a ban on oil sales to some you countries it's still possible and growing at tehran rhetoric from campaigning u.s. politicians out of this year's presidential race. dark clouds of war are looming over the syrian capital with heavy artillery fire heard on the outskirts and government tanks witnessed on the streets. cops and occupiers in the city of oakland all notions of tolerance go out the window as police were barred from pro quality activists with grenades rubber bullets and jail time. prime minister bush gets down to business and comes up with russia's new economic way out in the latest article to back his
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presidential bid. what you are taking to live from moscow i'm arena joshua into the program at iran's plans to hold oil exports to some e.u. countries are still alive warns iran's oil minister and that's the spy the country's parliament temporarily postponing the debate on a possible cut of crude supplies to rot is aiming to deflect the flow of sanctions adopted by the west albin targeting the country's oil industry now by implementing the measures the u.s. and the european union are seeking to bring an end to iran's alleged nuclear weapons program meanwhile a high profile group of i.a.e.a. inspectors have begun there a three day mission to examine iran's nuclear activities iran says the talks. with the u.n. atomic body officials first on such a level in more than three years well prove its nuclear ambitions are peaceful
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professor side mohammad marandi from the university of tehran says the i.a.e.a. visit will not change the west's hardline approach towards iran. the v a currently has full time monitors in iran and this is something that we rarely hear in the western media we have cameras in all of iraq. so therefore there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that iran's nuclear program is anything but peaceful and. has no evidence on this the iranians are not very optimistic about the i.a.e.a. because it is heavily influenced by western countries it's not a democratic body most of the members on the board are european and north american they don't represent the international community at all and the head of a is he owes his job to the united states if you look at the wiki leaks documents the united states and the europeans are basically engaging in acts of war against
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the iranian people as the real issue is not the nuclear program it is iran independence and sovereignty. and when america beats the drums of war over iran it may not always be driven by the islamic state nuclear intentions will be us presidential candidates aren't shy when it comes to voicing their and tehran rhetoric in front of america's influential jewish community is more important i explained thank you most never misses an opportunity to praise its ally ironclad commitment and i mean ironclad to israel's security has meant the closest military cooperation between our two countries in history both point a proverbial punch at its greatest adversary but there will be no doubt. america is determined to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon and i will take no options off the table. however for many american jews and israel supporters iraq obama's war of words against iran doesn't
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go far no sign of the simply state uncook commit israel security you have to promote policies that commit you that show that you're serious about his security israel through these actions feels that obama is not committed to doing everything this power to stop iran from having nuclear weapons iran is a in this an existential threat to israel and obama should be saying. so publicly that he will support israel in whatever military action they stay necessary more inclined is president of the zionist organization of america he says an unprecedented amount of american jews and israelis share his animosity a feeling arguably underscored by the israeli government according to published reports tell of eve would only give washington twelve hours notice if deciding to strike iran i believe his policies are among the most hostile israel's ever experienced of any president in my lifetime recently it was the life of president
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obama being threatened in a column written by the owner of the atlanta jewish times in an article titled what would you do andrew adler listed the assassination of obama as one way to ensure israel's security he wrote in part give the go ahead for u.s. based massada agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to israel in order for the current vice president to take his place and forcefully dictate that the united states' policy includes helping the jewish state obliterate its enemies i think that threat. either. or we are going to kill you either politically or literally i think that it. serious threat. seriously the american president and among. his the largest. group in the united states it is the kingmaker in.
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the american israel public affairs committee known as apac declined our request for an interview meanwhile obama finds himself facing another election and a slew of republican opponents to banging on much louder war drum against iran with regards to iran which perhaps represents the greatest exist central threat to israel we have to make it abundantly clear it is unacceptable that i take those that word carefully is unacceptable for iran to become a nuclear nation if rick santorum and when rick santorum is president iran will not get a nuclear weapon because the world as we know it will be no more clear i want to have israel i'm very close to netanyahu i would have said publicly that i would rather plan a joint operation conventionally than push the israelis to a point where the nuclear. at a time when the u.s. bears the burden of a broken economy growing social unrest and ongoing military conflicts starting
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a war with iran would not be in america's best interest but in order to keep a best friend many believe president obama will be forced to put israel's national security first marine up or nile r.t. new york. young going west to corner iran and what iran is doing in response are both tackled in pillow else crosstalk and that's coming up at three thirty pm g.m.t. here's a taste of what's ahead. wants to bring the hidden even out of the well by doing something spectacular and destructive to enemies of islam and this is what motivates. the old soviet leadership who for all their misdeeds were atheists so they believe that a nuclear war and death was an end in failure and many things dying in a nuclear war for allah will get him to paradise what incentive do you have to bring to bear on him what carrot can you offer him to compare with so you have to be prepared to stop his military efforts and he says i'm going to go and he says he
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doesn't and you can evolve why did you marry in the new zealand and he wants to wipe out israel which is a lot for a country that has had a taboo anybody we only drop to the most powerful nation this kind of rhetoric this kind of rhetoric is not good for israel israel is a very strong country and it doesn't need this bibi netanyahu do this kind of information and rhetoric to get reelected he doesn't need another people do you know how did you know that unlike you i mean when i saw this interesting to me. and syrian troops backed by tanks and have the ammunition have reportedly regain control over the outskirts of damascus activists suggest over sixty people have been killed in the latest fighting just over a day after the arab league mission was frozen reports from the syrian capital. the sense really that this decision to hold the mission was going to inflame an already
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extremely volatile situation and unfortunately that's exactly what we've seen happen now minister lavrov was speaking on his tour of asia pacific countries and what he said about it was that he didn't really understand why such a useful tool was used in this way and now we've seen the observer mission start and eventually grounds to a halt they never really recovered after that decision last week for the gulf states when they withdrew their monitors now their decision they said was because they felt the mission had failed to hold the syrian government to its pledge to end the violence and it was a surprising decision that's how the foreign minister described it because at exactly the same time that the gulf states made that decision the decision would also be made to extend the mission and now was interesting was when that decision was made for the gulf states to withdraw their monitors one of the observers sides i was speaking to you had hinted that perhaps the rest of them would would follow and is things really now with them having their mission whole tid this is possibly
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what's going to happen we've got the meeting coming up on cheese day where the arab league are going to pre presenting. findings essentially briefing the un and most guys named remains very very adamant that it's not going to back any plan that's going to leave the door open to foreign military intervention in fact again their response to western cool's now that has said that it's impossible to hold dialogue with the regime here the foreign minister called very irresponsible and indeed unforgivable as i think there's a real sense that this arab league was the one opportunity ready to piss you are the resolution through dialogue there's a lot of people here saying what was the point in having them here in the first place if they were going to be made strengthened if they were going to try worked well was dialogue and if all right is essentially we're going to lead to a un. action anyway he got harassed the god do you know you've got our being all these areas around the capital that have seen increasing conflicts and there were
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really serious reports about the violence happening in those areas and very very concerning because the area where we were sacked by you've got a huge number of civilian people still on the ground that he's lives and i'm very very serious danger with this ice skating situation. so for of reporting here and there is also keeping you helping you rather keep track of the syrian conflict and stay up to the minute with all developments in the country by her twitter stream find her way to the troops as observers compare their fact finding mission to tom and jerry as he chased young brats unsuccessfully around the country well that's how they explain the difficulty in trying to get an accurate perspective on the situation in certain areas.
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but still the bomb here in the program fixing faulty brakes on the go or in the back to brussels as the e.u. rattled by the euro crisis labor's to install a spending seat belt for the blogs debt ridden economy. and u.s. reportedly sits down with the taliban with hopes for peace talks after over a decade of conflict in afghanistan and we've got more analysis on this story in just a few minutes stay with us. now the mayor of oakland has asked courts to throw an occupy activist with a record of protest and arrests out of the city her demand follows one of the most dramatic clampdowns on the movement in its history more than four hundred people were arrested one what began as a peaceful rally against inequality and police brutality turned a rough ride clad cops jumped into action firing volleys of tear gas and flask
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grenades at protesters hiding behind makeshift barriers bearing peace symbols first hand accounts say that police were tearing a list of demonstrators was which they used to arrest attendance sara flounders from the international action center believes that offered by the movement is like a large equality for a dying american dream. it's very much achieving its goals in terms of waking up the youth and the waking up working people in the us to the reality the reality that poor and working people are losing more and more and that the one percent actually one thousands of one percent is gaining an enormous new wealth so that they are very successful and drawing attention to that again and again the media tries to base this on. being by the by and from the program and a broken piece of glass is not the broken heads that the police are inflicting on
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the occupy movement and that movement is very determined to continue and to find new tactics. and as the fallout from those clashes in oakland continues to be counted you can keep up with all the latest developments on our word twitter feed we are closely following events as always in california with a media blitz it's all there you'll find the latest problem around the world breaking news and developing stories well all that is available at our underscore com. bad dad a stereo and fresh ammunition for europe's bailout fund the main seems coming up in today's summit in brussels but the meeting the first such this year is set for a tan's start as critical greek credit talks drag on our correspondent as our syria
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has more from brussels. leaders of the twenty seven member states of the european union are meeting today for the first summit twenty. summit. this nevertheless of the states remain a very specially with regard to the economic social and political stability of certain member states official. our jobs and growth this is very painful at a time when average unemployment is at around ten percent even. twenty three percent in countries like spain it is expected that the seventeen members of the eurozone may meet for. it hasn't been officially announced but it may be decided upon today of whether the talks among the seventeen will go ahead and one of the most important topics they need to discuss is that of ongoing negotiations between greece and its creditors. to be
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a deal where. some of the greek take some losses is crucial to get the. money into the mix of what's happening today belgium is holding a general strike involved both the public. protests against the government moves to make it harder for them to retire early as well as this one of the benefits of all of this is part of a certain want to bring down the deficit of the country to. three percent. prior to today. so it doesn't coincide with. all of these are indeed happening today. are still your reporting there and if you missed any of our stories don't hesitate to log on to our website our two dot com here's a taste of what's there for you today. and it's one thing to admire architecture
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but this woman has taken her appreciation one step further. as he prepares to marry a century old building. blocks in giant israeli super drone crashes during a test flight find out what caused the largest on matter aircraft in the country's arsenal to go down at r.t. dot com. now the story talks between the u.s. and the taliban have reportedly began and qatar the are discussing trust building measures including a possible transfer of prisoners from guantanamo bay to discuss the developments we're joined now from seattle by nuri he's a co-founder of the same tank new world strategies coalition thank you.

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