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not good for israel israel is a very strong country and it doesn't need this bibi netanyahu he looks at his kind of information i read rick to get reelected he being here is a need now the people you know want to transcend like you are your husband i'm sorry if you think it is interesting to me go ahead john jump in no because i thought i understood you as an obvious lesson obvious why he would a law i oppose working on nuclear weapons until he has them even a ten year old child can figure that out he obviously wants to destroy you when he was mayor of toronto and you think that he's lying about attack you sure of the law do you not me saying for domestic consumption it doesn't go into the reason i was going to charge of the military so you don't charge and if you know those prints mr president also said when and where you want to gather this is what you want to do and when the law if you want to use weapons you have to go to sleep until they've got them ready you have to be an idiot to fall for that ok. you want to follow if you want to use the propaganda tool if you if you want to use the propaganda to
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cause threatening remarks about a country learn about it find out more about it you have never been to iran you don't speak farsi you don't even know the cook the safeguard agreement of iran we deny the mission you cannot just open your mouth and say whatever you want when you haven't even studied the country isn't that responsible if you go teach a course you don't know how to teach it how can you talk about it if you and other people like you decide to talk about iran and attacking iran find out more about it learn study it read about comprehensive health care agreements and i'm forty five pages not only you haven't read it i think many of the republican candidates haven't read it and they keep talking about it they don't even know what they're talking about spend the time to learn and then attack i think that's the best way john do you want one reply and another we'll move on may i make the comment going to jump in there go ahead. well the. relation between oil and iran's nuclear program. well the story is out of all of the nuclear program the
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question is there is a flow in the arguments of the united states european union and the global community about the iran's nuclear weapons why the pressure on iran at a time when is that india bucks and nor could he also have nuclear weapons before you put pressure on the air you will have to even stand that it's not stand that is before you put pressure on iran then try to paris who it is that i have to relinquish its nuclear weapons or india or pakistan or north so we are talking here about the nuclear program. here on needs and you clear out of power for alec that it's a generation to be able to say of oil for export about a wise it will be. needed and why another exporter of oil
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but the iranians are among a verse to getting nuclear weapons so the question is if you put pressure on iran put b.c.m. by sharon is on iran and in the arrow bucks that and north and then you can tilt ok i go back to john in our way here one of the things i think is really dangerous here and on both sides ok is the ratcheting up of rhetoric because when pursued politicians and countries say that you know this is a red line you know if you go over this annoying and both sides are doing the revolutionary guards ok also saying that in iran again i'm going back to you know the ratcheting up of tension here made i think that there's a certain point where we can keep it simmering i'm very dubious about that because there is absolutely no goodwill between the united states and iran we could have a tipping point here in the rhetoric that we hear coming out of western countries and out of iran is extremely dangerous. well i mean it depends how you look at it
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and if you think about dealings with hitler again as a good example if the west set red lines and then didn't inforce them according to our station of the rhineland and eventually they set a red line they had to defend with poland from a much weaker position than they would have been even a year and a half earlier so when there's a regime you're trying to contain you must not do certain things or does then you take action otherwise you let them do whatever they like and obviously that this is a recipe for getting stomped so yeah i would prefer to avoid war but there are things worse than war ok i mean nato are what countries around planning to invade if we use the hitler example. absolutely there is no comparing iran with hitler it's this honest to the loss of millions of jews who is not is a hollow man is going to sort of those who are your lawyer this is you have to learn to organize one of pro israel again i fear quiet so he can least do it is this use of comparison he has been they have been used in israeli government by
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bibi netanyahu and the individuals like your guest this is wrong this is discrediting all those jews that died in war two and it's comparing something that is really not comparable he has said negative things about israel and i think going back to what your guest from london said once you go and criticize israel especially the why the regime then the wrath of the united states will come upon you with all its tools covert all over it sanctions and that's what the problem is that's what the difference between iran and those other countries are none of them have criticized israel and that's the price you pay now i'm not saying good or bad this is the decision that they don't and government has made that is the price you pay because you get at senate approval of a bill with one hundred to zero how often does that happen and of course it was part of the military bill but at the same time it shows that if you fool around and you criticize israel does what you did so they have to deal with it and that's what the problem is it going to what you said peter about how much everyone. i mean as
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you know hard to push john you want to report a matter of saying israel anywhere it's a matter of saying they should israel is going to be wiped off the bat that's not criticizing as i don't already know that has denied the holocaust is that important terrorist group problems or as you know there are liable he was not in charge that governor and gentlemen gentlemen i have no i don't i'm joking here trying to jump in now ok let me say let me if i can go to you in london one of the things that's interesting is the i.m.f. is estimated that if this oil gambit is played out what the european union wants to do and what iran will do in retaliation or even before is that we could see as a thirty percent oil increase the price of oil going up and i mean in these troubled times is it really worthwhile to do that when we have the eurozone that is tipping into recession obama's chances of pulling off a reelection if the price of gasoline goes up again i mean isn't this a really playing for playing with fire at a very bad time. no it was not
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a war of playing with fire i thought and it was a simple symbolic political decision to stop importing iranian oil it will have no effect on iran on the contrary it will have effect on the global economy as a whole because that rhetoric could skelly it and we saw today that the price of oil has gone up by one dollar when iran and now says that it will not go into export or into the european union. think very clearly that if there is any escalation or any sign of real escalation i project the price of oil could go to one fifty or one seventy dollars particularly if iran feels that it will be prevented from selling its all in and it tries to block the street of water was the price could go one fifty to one seventy dollars and who will be the biggest loser
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it is doing and i could stay it's because it is the biggest you result of oil it imports twelve to fourteen million barrels a day and the second one the global economy as a whole the global economy is in the area recession the orissa decision since the thirty's any increase significant increases in the oil price will mean that the global economy will not be able to recover very quickly from the wars that it's a shit recession it is in now ok john i'm almost out of time is it's worth trying to negotiate with or you just finish with negotiations or should we still give it a try because the iranians say they want to talk still do you think twenty seconds yeah they said they want to talk but they won't stop working on their nuclear program i think it's time we start building nuclear reactors to lessen our dependence on middle eastern oil back obama just cancel the major pipeline from canada that would have helped america develop energy independence here make planned space missions an iranian regime cannot be dealt with except for only right. very
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interesting discussion thank you very much many thanks my guest today in our london and in irvine and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules. and you can. still. come up. to be soo much brighter than a few. songs from phones to christians. whose friends don't totty don't come.
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as fierce fighting surrounds damascus russia proposes to host peace talks between the syrian government and opposition. it could stop supplying some states in response to sanctions against its nuclear program which is currently undergoing a un inspection. broken piece of glass is not the broken heads that the police are inflicting on the occupy movement heavy handed police response to and he called for protests in california is echoed across the atlantic where british officers are also accused of excessive use of force. and leaders meet in brussels for their first summit this year against the symbolic backdrop of dirty protests
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and a general strike in belgium our top stories this hour. international news and comment live from moscow this is syria is staring at the real possibility of deadly violence taking hold of the very center of the nation's capital rebel fighters have been locked in intensive battles with government forces in the suburbs surrounding damascus and an invitation from russia to host moscow based peace talks between syria's authorities and the opposition has been accepted by the assad government. has the latest now from damascus. but we've seen the situation escalating dramatically over the past couple of days now over the weekend the suburbs were broiled in a heavy clashes between the two sides in fact in damascus people were waking up
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yesterday to the sounds of gunfire and shelling in those areas very very alarming indeed some of the reports that were coming from those areas and certainly the response from the government to the free syrian army taking control of some of those suburbs has been a strong well we've had reports of tanks going into those areas and the death toll on both sides extremely high as well and of course this comes on the back of the arab league monitoring mission saying that they had halted that mission and for the time being those of the remaining observers that are here in the country they hadn't really seemed to recover from that decision last week of the gulf states to withdraw their monitors well it's hard to say really exactly what the future of the mission now is there's a little bit of a sense that it's dead in the war so now what we saw at the end of the month of course as they presented their reports i was interesting is the details of that has made note of abuses on both sides that was what had been mentioned and on the back
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of that it was discussed possibly increasing the numbers on the ground and making the mission stronger as well as the other the happening what we saw was the decision for the gulf states to withdraw them all this is now today russia's foreign ministry has said that it has put forward the offer of using moscow as a place to hold a reconciliation talks between the two sides pursuing some sort of resolution to the situation through dialogue again because what we've seen with the arab league decision to go to the u.n. the fears are that there's a real close now international and parents the international involvement adding possibly we could see the conflict get even more violent even more militarized and that's not what i. well one thing is he said the last day. and escalating situation so furthur was still ahead for you on r.t. this just over a month before russia's presidential vote. prime minister of the reports intensive
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real action on a go between himself as the presidential candidate for widespread economic reform. and the occupy movement spills on to the streets of london with police accused of going over the top during a crackdown on protesters. iran has vowed to hold on exports to some e.u. countries for up to fifteen years despite his parliament disappointing debate on a complete ban on crude supplies to europe it would be in retaliation to the e.u. imposed embargo on iranian oil due to come in to fuel full effect this summer russia's foreign minister says that iran's threat shows how unilateral sanctions can often backfire. russia has firmly held the opinion that in most cases sanctions are not only affective but also counterproductive the current situation yet again confirms the old war to every
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action there is an equal reaction iran's announcement was made in response to be european union's decision to ban the purchasing of iranian oil by even member states. meanwhile iran's nuclear program which is the target of e.u. sanctions is being scrutinised by u.n. inspectors tehran has offered a officials the chance to extend their mission and said it was ready to answer any question to prove its atomic are peaceful but some experts suggest the only report western states want to see is one that justifies a military buildup in the region. made up of the sectors that don't necessarily control politically but i think what the united states walls is some kind of a state but you know which way you balance on a balanced way to to sort of lead to the next stage so i think what we are witnessing here is is a bill that. calls a bill truly calls for
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a generation we have a mass. of u.s. military hardware troops going into israel to be stationed in israel all troops going to pull weight. you know naval. naval forces in the. ocean goals there's not a lot i would describe as why the actual war the issue of nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons is a red herring but it is a red herring which could lead to a well what we said are you and later in the program explore why some u.s. politicians are banging the drums for war louder and louder. and how calls to attack iran become calls to attack the american president himself all to protect the interests of a different country. when iran for its part seems confident it can withstand the building international pressure the country's interior minister believes sanctions will end up hitting the countries who impose them and not to run his exclusive
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interview with r.t. is coming up in twenty minutes from now but in the meantime here's a preview. i think the way we're doing it. i believe they've made a big mistake as this action results in turbulence for the oil in the energy market this very fact it can result in oil price growth in these conditions the west student spec the drop in the euro rate and the euro market this new decision will result in further economic problems which as we can see have affected them already and so far they've been unable to find solutions the decisions taken today by the west unilaterally will result in the escalation of the own economic problems. after surveying the damage from saturday's occupy protests in oakland in california the mayor wants to kick activists out of the city the latest rally ended with police firing tear gas and flash bombs meanwhile in washington the national park
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service has given activists until today to remove all camping material from to supply camps the demonstrations are planned a peaceful protest in response sort of flanders from the international action center has told me that she believes the occupy movement continues to attract followers it's very much achieving its goals in terms of waking up the youth and the waking up working people in the us to the reality the reality that poor and working people are losing more and more and that one percent actually one thousands of one percent is gaining a normal new wealth so that they are very successful and drawing attention to that again and again the media tries to bait this occupy movement as being violent the violence has come from the police and a broken piece of glass is not the broken heads that the police are inflicting on
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the occupy movement and that movement is very determined to continue and to find new tactics. exemptions of excessive force by police in the us have been well documented since the occupy movement began more than five months ago and there is proof on our web site in washington a seemingly innocent protester is corralled by police and tasered as dozens of fellow occupiers look on. this video and many others all of you tube channel you tube dot com. and police in london have also been accused of excessive force in their efforts to clear out occupy demonstrators protesters stood together last night as officers broke down the doors to their camps auntie's nor smith has more on the london based battle between occupiers and offices what we've seen in the last twenty four hours is the first eviction of the occupy movement from a building that they were calling the bank of ideas it was a building that is owned by u.b.s.
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the bank and it was evicted by a group of anyone who's been up a bit against a bailiff in this country would call them hired thugs basically and what you see on the video that we're showing now is a bailiff essentially driving into a group of protesters watched on by the police basically he allegedly before this incident took place punched a photographer in their face the police apparently did nothing apart from briefly confiscate. the car keys of the bailiffs in question they then gave back his car keys according to the occupy movement and then cleared the way for him to leave the scene so far they've received absolutely no response from the police to this instance at all. there in london and remember you can always find more news comment and analysis on our website is online all the time dot com let's have a quick look and see what's there at the moment secrets unlocked british intelligence has been ordered to declassify all documents related to. alexander
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litvinenko who died of radioactive poisoning in london five years ago you can find out more about that online plus. the biggest drug in the world has crashed in exploded in israel during a test flight discover the cause of the accident a party dot com. it is a gathering for their first summit of twenty twelve with a sense of deja vu greece is still the center of discussion the pressure is still on the athens to overhaul its economy with the german finance minister warning it won't receive a second financial lifeline if it doesn't correspond to reports from brussels. they're supposed to talk more about the fiscal compact they had agreed upon at the last e.u. summit as well as push for the european stability mechanism which is the permanent
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bailout fund we will put in place now in june instead of july these are the official informal topics but greece is still hanging over their heads especially since there have been war of words between the greece and germany with the germans are calling for moving taxing and spending power over to brussels and the german finance minister saying that the europeans are willing to support greece as long as greece actually implements these decisions instead of just talking about it well the greeks had responded to that with a lot of that still to be saying that this is definitely out of the question especially since this is a matter of national sovereignty and one former economist who's now the greek education minister had actually called it quote unquote a product of a sick imagination so you can you can tell that the greeks are definitely upset with the german suggestion now why did the german suggest that this is because of that ongoing talks between the greeks and their creditors it's still dragging it's been stalling for some time now the greeks need to strike
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a deal with the private sector and their creditors asking the banks for example to write down some of the greek back to take some losses about fifty to sixty percent of losses and this is in order for greece to get the second tranche of its bailout which it needs to pay some debts in march because if they don't they will technically default now as the e.u. leaders are getting ready for the summit belgium where this is out there in brussels it's on a general strike a lot of walking and cycling today because all the metros down no buses and one of the airports is also closed the unions are protesting against the government of cutting their benefits slashing retirement age and also raising the retirement age rather so they're complaining that the workers are bearing the brunt and the enterprises are not getting here at. and tesser is also keeping her twitter stream updated on developments in brussels her latest post says that the city is largely empty because of that general strike and people have to walk or cycle has also
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spoken to members taking part in the protests and some are refusing to rule out europe wide strikes in the near future all available back to. the. election promises are coming thick and fast here in russia less than five weeks before the presidential poll prime minister and presidential hopeful vladimir putin outlined his program to reform the country's economy in his third pre-election article. reports. this article has already been deemed by many analysts as a whole list of liberal reforms proposed by the prime minister on the economy first of all was going to put him says he wants to see the role of the state and of state monopolies reduced for example gas from which as quite an influence on russia's
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business life secondly the fight against corruption especially in the sphere of high level kickbacks during state orders and purchases more attention is needed to be paid there as well now another major problem for the economy according to the prime minister is a dependency on natural resources which has to be reduced as well and the reporting says that if these issues would be dealt with successfully it should improve the investment climate in the country and increase the economies competitiveness against other international players there is also another point worth mentioning from that article and that is the idea to propose the world tax which should concern the v.a.p. real estate and other a luxury purchases an issue which has been and is still being discussed in russia society for quite some time now. stay with r.t. and in our business bulletin with a few minutes from now we'll have
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a more detailed analysis on how to meet proteins proposals so now let's update you on some of the major news stories across the globe in this house we start in nigeria where the terrorist organization is suspected of attacking a police station in the northern city of qana government opened fire and threw explosives killing two civilians in the sort of the weekend organization distributed leaflets around the city warning residents of more attacks on security services ten days ago carried out multiple blasts in qana which left almost two hundred dead. in the family does she capital dhaka the head of the opposition and thousands of her supporters staged a demonstration calling for early elections. the next poll is not due for two years and other government rallies across the country turned violent with three people killed in clashes between protesters and security forces activists also say over a thousand demonstrators were detained. a car pileup at a florida highway is left ten people dead in a dozen others wounded so it is
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a try to find out what triggered the riff it crash witnesses say drivers were blinded by foreign smoke from a fire that may have been started intentionally at least a dozen cars and six trucks. were not back to the growing international pressure on iran america's behavior towards the islamic republic is often seen as the most threatening but it may not just be about iran's nuclear ambitions this rhetoric has testified noticeably over the course of the current presidential race and as artie's marina portnoy explains some politicians are putting political points and the support of the jewish community ahead of the u.s. national interest. america almost never misses an opportunity to praise its ally ironclad commitment and i mean i inquired to israel's security has meant the closest military cooperation between our two countries in history first point a proverbial punch at its greatest adversary butt.

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