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he said they was going to use nuclear tipped missiles to hit israel he has never said that even if he says that what the sixteen words that they quote it is he's not in charge he's not the one who makes the decisions and isn't it interesting that when he says those things they believe him when he says we don't have nuclear bombs we don't believe it so we just selectively cherry pick what we want. to see you have no look he says listen he says i'm going to writers or any sense doesn't it and you can evolve why don't you believe every and you see anybody wants to wipe out israel which is what for a country that has never attacked anybody now we only talk to the most powerful nation this kind of rhetoric this kind of rhetoric is not good for israel israel is a very strong country and it doesn't need this bibi netanyahu you know that is kind of information i read rick to get reelected he being here is a need now that people you know want to transcend like you are going to go and i'm sorry for you because it's interesting to me go ahead john jump in no because what i understood as an obvious lesson obvious why he would
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a law i oppose working on nuclear weapons until he has them even a ten year old child can figure that out he obviously wants to destroy as you when he was mayor of toronto and you think that he's lying a lot and you sure of the law do you not me saying for domestic consumption it doesn't go into the which is not even a charge of the military you know in charge and you know his predecessor as president also said well what you want to throw my god this is what you want to do and when they launch you want to use well you have to sleep until they've got them ready you have to be an idiot to fall for that ok. you want to reform if you want to use the propaganda tool if you if you want to use the propaganda to cause threatening remarks about a country learn about it find out more about it you have never been to iran you don't speak farsi you don't even know the cook the safeguard agreement of iran we do not in nation you cannot just open your mouth and say whatever you want when you haven't even studied the country is not responsible if you go teach a course you don't know how to teach it how can you talk about it is. if you and
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other people like you decide to talk about iran and attacking iran find out more about it learn study it read about comprehensive health care agreements and i'm forty five pages not only you haven't read it i think many of the republican candidates haven't read it and they keep talking about it they don't even know what they're talking about spend the time to learn and then attack i think that's the best way john do you want one replied another we'll move on may i make the comment jump in there go ahead. well the. relation between oil and iran's nuclear program all of this story is out of all of the nuclear program the question is there is a flaw in the arguments of the united states european union and the global community about the iran's nuclear weapons why the pressure on iran at a time when is there in the box stand and or could also have nuclear
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weapons before you put pressure on the air you will have to have even stand that it's not double stand that is before you put pressure on iran then to try to you it is that to relinquish its nuclear weapons or india or pakistan or north korea so we are talking here about the nuclear program. needs a new clear out of power for electricity generation to be able to say of oil for export about a wise it will be. degraded and why i'm not an exporter of oil but the iranians are among the averse to getting nuclear weapons so the question is if you put pressure on iran put b.c.m. pressure on israel on iran and in the box stand as north and then you. until
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ok i go back to john and i do i hear one of the things i think is really dangerous here and on both sides ok is the ratcheting up of rhetoric because when pursued politicians and countries say that you know this is a red line when you know if you go over this annoying and both sides are doing the revolutionary guards ok are also saying that in iran again i'm going back to you know the ratcheting up of tension here now made i think that there's a certain point where we can keep it simmering i'm very dubious about that because there is absolutely no goodwill between the united states and iran we could have a tipping point here in the rhetoric that we hear coming out of western countries and out of iran is extremely dangerous. well i mean it depends how you look at it and if you think about dealings with hitler again it's a good example if the west set red lines and then didn't inforce them according to our station of rhineland and eventually they set a red line they had to defend with poland from a much weaker position than they would have been even a year and a half earlier so when there's a regime you're trying to contain you must not do certain things or does them you
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take action otherwise you let them do whatever they like and obviously that this is a recipe for getting stomped so yeah i would prefer to avoid war but there are things worse than war ok i mean nato are what countries around planning to invade if we use the hitler example. there is no comparing iran with hitler it's this honest to the loss of millions of jews who is not is a hollow man is going to restore those who are you a liar this is you have to learn to ours is one of the pro israel again i fear quiet so he can we do it is this use of comparison he has been they have been used in israeli government by bibi netanyahu and the individuals like your guest this is wrong this is discrediting all those jews that died in world war two and it's comparing something that is really not comparable he has said negative things about israel and i think going back to what your guest from london said once you go and criticize israel especially the regime then the wrath of the united states will
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come upon you with all its tools covert all over it sanctions and that's what the problem is that's what the difference between iran and those other countries are none of them have criticized israel and that's the price you pay now i'm not saying good or bad this is the decision that they don't and government has made that is the price you pay because you get at senate approval of a bill with one hundred to zero how often does that happen and of course it was part of the military bill but at the same time it shows that if you fool around and you criticize israel does what you did so they have to deal with it and that's what the problem is it going to what you said peter about how much everyone. i mean as you say one hundred push john you want to reply matter of saying israel anyway it's a matter of saying they should israel is going to be wiped off the bat that's not criticizing as i don't already know that has denied the holocaust is that he supported terrorists problems or as you know you are liable he was not in charge that governor and gentlemen gentlemen i have no i don't i'm joking here trying to
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jump in now ok let me say let me if i can go to you in london one of the things that's interesting is the i.m.f. is estimated that if this oil gambit is played out what the european union wants to do and what iran will do in retaliation or even before is that we could see as a thirty percent oil increase in the price of oil going up and i mean in these troubled times is it really worthwhile to do that when we have the eurozone that is tipping into recession obama's chances of pulling off a reelection if that is the price of gasoline goes up again i mean isn't this a really playing for playing with fire at a very bad time. no it was not a lot of playing with fire and i thought and it was a simple symbolic political decision to stop importing iranian oil it will have no effect on iran on the contrary it will have effect on the global economy as a whole because that rhetoric could skelly it and we saw today that the price of
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oil has gone up by one dollar when iran and now says that it will not go into export or into the european union. think very clearly that if there is any escalation or any sign of real escalation i reject the price of oil could go to one fifty or one seventy dollars particularly if iran feels that it will be prevented from selling its all in and it tries to block this fleet of water was the price could go one fifty to one seventy dollars and who will be the biggest loser it is the united states because it is the biggest you result of oil it imports twelve to fourteen million barrels a day and the second one the global economy as a whole the global economy is in the area recession the orsa decision since the thirty's any increase in significant increases in the oil price will mean that the
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global economy will not be able to recover very quickly from the war still he says it a recession it is in now ok john we're almost out of time is it's not worth trying to negotiate with are you just finished with negotiations or should we still give it a try because the iranians say they want to talk still what you think twenty seconds yeah they said they want to talk but they won't stop working on their nuclear program i think it's time we start building nuclear reactors to lessen our dependence on middle eastern oil back obama just cancel the major pipeline from canada that would have helped america develop energy independence here make plans space mission iranian regime cannot be dealt with except for only right. very interesting discussion thank you very much many thanks my guest today in our london and in irvine and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember cross top rules. change the story.
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a russian proposal to host peace talks with the opposition. in response to sanctions against its nuclear program which is currently undergoing a un inspection reaction to developments shortly. broken piece of glass broken heads that the police. heavy handed police response to protests in california is echoed across the atlantic where british officers are also accused of excessive use of force. leaders meet in brussels for their
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first summit this year against the backdrop of protests and a general strike in. international . syria is staring at the real possibility of deadly violence taking hold of the very center of the nation's capital rebel fighters have been locked in intensive battles with government forces in the suburbs surrounding damascus and an invitation from russia to host moscow based peace talks between syria's authorities and the opposition has been accepted by the assad government but given the call reaction by their potence. from damascus. but we've seen the situation escalating dramatically over the past couple of days now over
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the weekend the suburbs were embroiled in a heavy clashes between the two sides in fact in damascus people were waking up yesterday to the sounds of gunfire and shelling in those areas very very alarming indeed some of the reports that were coming from those areas and certainly the response from the government to the free syrian army taking control of some of those suburbs has been a strong well we've had reports of tanks going into those areas and the death toll on both sides extremely high as well and of course this comes on the back of the arab league monitoring mission saying that they had hold said the mission for the time being is that the remaining observers that are here in the country they hadn't really seems to recover from that decision last week of the gulf states to withdraw their monitors well it's hard to say really exactly what the future of the mission now is there's a little bit of a sense that it's dead in the war so now what we saw at the end of the month of
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course is they presented their reports i was interesting is the details of that has made note of abuses on both sides that was what had been mentioned and on the back of that it was discussed possibly increasing the numbers on the ground and making the mission stronger as well instead of the happening what we saw was the decision for the goal safe to weave through them all it is now today russia's foreign ministry has said that it has put forward the offer of using moscow as a place to hold a reconciliation talks between the two sides pursuing some sort of resolution for the situation through dialogue again because what we've seen with the arab league decision to go to the u.s. the fears are that there's a real close now international and appearance the international involvement adding possibly we could see the conflict get even more violent even more militarized and that's not what. well this is he said the last day.
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so furthur and bradley he's a specialist on arab countries and the author of the book the arab spring believes that syrian opposition groups are opposed to negotiation largely because all the foreign backing. under huge pressure from outside powers who want these talks to fail even before they begin most obviously nato nato is determined to bring the outside regime to its knees as a prelude to invading iran and last but by no means least you have saudi arabia qatar saudi arabia is financially and politically backing the the still very young opposition and has been widely reported to be funding on arming the rebels who are leading this insurrection now obviously apart from doing nato as dirty work saudi arabia. the syrian regime for simple reason it secular this is the only secular country that's left in the middle east now saudi arabia of
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all the countries on earth complains about human rights abuses on the part of the assad regime and say it's withdrawing its monitors because he doesn't want to be a false witness to human rights abuses i mean saudi arabia has a reputation second perhaps only to north korea in the world repressing and oppressing and torturing and imprisoning its own people so this is the saudi cutlery wahhabi revolution and it's called the nation will be the overthrow of our said regime. still ahead for you on r.t. just over a month now before russia's presidential vote. prime minister vladimir putin plan says the real action article. as the presidential candidates for widespread economic reform. and also still to come for you the occupy movement spills onto the streets of london with police accused of going over the top during a crackdown on protesters. iran has vowed to halt all
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exports to some e.u. countries for up to fifteen years despite its parliament displaying a debate on a complete ban on crude supplies to europe it would be in retaliation to the e.u. imposed embargo on iranian all due to come into full effect this summer russia's foreign minister says tehran threat shows how unilateral sanctions can often backfire. russia has firmly held the opinion that in most cases sanctions are not only affective but also counterproductive for the current situation yet again confirms the old war to every action there is an equal reaction of iran's announcement was made in response to be european union's decision to ban the purchasing of uranium member states. meanwhile iran's nuclear program the target of e.u. sanctions is being scrutinized by u.n. inspectors to run is offered officials the chance to extend their mission and says it's ready to answer any questions to prove its atomic ambitions are peaceful what
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of discuss the situation i'm joined now from london by author and journalist returned so what do you make of the sudden display of cooperation from iran does it really have nothing to hide. it's not really a sudden display of cooperation after all their fault monitors there anyway and there are cameras surveillance equipment over all the different sites so i'm not exactly sure why i. needed another i visit from an organization as we know from wiki leaks run by by an american guy. well you raise that point of impartiality a veteran has expressed optimism regarding the outcome of this mission yet some experts are questioning the agency's impartiality since balanced approach and given the damning report of course we saw a few months earlier do you think really tehran has cause for optimism then on that basis perhaps iran or just taking these inspectors around to see persepolis or something because of course the main action now is these e.u.
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oil sanctions sanctions that are uniting greece's commentators had it for the first time and not from openly and before because specter's regime i think most analysts would say is a front for w m d inspections that we've seen previously in that region. some would say that this is whatever the conclusion of the report it may well be ignored because of the western interest in justifying a military buildup in the region and we all seeing evidence of that at the moment of course. that's right i heard in the past hour or so the united states plans to supply military equipment to bahrain as part of its pro-democracy credentials no doubt obviously the united states. i would say to a certain extent seems to run scared from iran one can tell that from obama's state of the union speech when it again said what people who are frightened tend to say
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all options are on the table so the real action now is what happens to the petro dollars because the use of shot themselves in the foot over or oil sanctions as india and china or japan or even south korea all say we're not going to follow the sanctions route it's all just explain a bit more saying they've shot themselves in the foot it's something that so liberal mentioned about sanctions not being effective in counterproductive in what way you could turn has really capitalize on this already the head of opec because the sanctions regime is likely to increase oil prices which will further have an impact on e.u. economies and greece and the mediterranean e.u. countries need iranian oil they're not going to get it it seems or they're going to have to get it through other sources because iran and you mentioned earlier the proposed motion in the iranian parliament that not only does iran not care about
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you sanctions it's going to preempt them and make the suffer for what they've said because they said india japan despite the u.s. is protestations these countries have anything thinking of ditching the petro dollar so they can evade sanctions by paying of gold and other currencies and you're even saying the rupee action we wouldn't be not going to see military confrontation over this are we in iran i mean if so what would be the consequences . i think when president obama said all options on the table to huge applause in congress at the state of the union it again shows and the united states is playing . to its north again and yet again threats against entire populations unbeknownst to the iranian regime there may well be people planning to support iran via asymmetric warfare there's no doubt that these policies and these pronouncements i know from the cameron government again they have already banned
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iranian television stations news the first time in history british history banning straddles these countries don't seem to realize what exactly they are playing with as they make these threats because the world is changing and that's why the nonaligned movement supporter of. i really fear for how the un has any relevance or un agency like the i.a.e.a. has any relevance now. let's hope. as i say the developing world is going to do the developed world. than it was vice worse vice of us. action always good to hear thoughts to have time with thanks very much indeed for joining us live in london action returns. after surveying the damage from saturday's occupied protests in oakland california the mayor wants to kick activists out of the city the latest rally ended with riot police firing tear gas
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and flash bombs meanwhile in washington a deadline issued by the national park department to dismantle occupy camps as poss but with protesters staying put kevin zeese director of its economy told me a little earlier that the recent excessive force used by police will not scare them away. who knows what's going through their head space on that you know when we i watch that video it's available online and it looks like there was no justification for it when i went to meet piers on the day to ask about it people said the only thing he was doing was taking the signs that were on the chance that said no camping and so that was the rationale for tasering him he was being a biology is not being as threatening looks like a excessive use of force my sense is that it's not going to provoke the macpherson campers that they're more. disciplined than that to fall for that kind of trap the occupy movement in a few months has shifted the debate and show the american people that if they get mobilized and organized that we have power we can change the direction this country
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so the future's going to be an american spring that's going to explode on the scene and become more important the presidential race in two thousand and twelve police in london have also been accused of excessive force in their efforts to clear out occupy demonstrators protesters stood together last night as officers looked to take over their camps and laura smith has more on the london based battle between occupiers and offices. what we've seen in the last twenty four hours is the first of the occupy movement from a building that they were calling the bank of ideas it was a building that is owned by u.b.s. the bank and it was evicted by a group of anyone who's been up a bit against a bailiff in this country would call them hired thugs basically and what you see on the video that we're showing now is a bailiff essentially driving into a group of protesters watched on by the police basically he allegedly before this incident took place punched a photographer in the face the police apparently did nothing apart from briefly
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confiscate the keys of the car keys of the bailiffs in question they then gave back his car keys according to the occupy movement and then cleared the way for him to leave the scene so far they've received absolutely no response from the police to this incident. and remember you can always find more news coming down analysis on our website it's on to you don't come online all the time let's take a look at what's there right now secrets on the war british intelligence has been ordered to do classified documents related to x. f.s.b. officer alexander litvinenko who died of radioactive poisoning in the five years ago find out more on developments online plus. the biggest drop in the world has crashed in exploded in israel during a test flight discover the cause of the accidents on the web site altie dot com.
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the pre-election promises are coming ficken fast here in russia listen five weeks before the presidential poll prime minister and presidential candidate. his program to reform the country's economy and his third pre-election article on you going to . this article has already been deemed by many analysts as a whole list of liberal reforms proposed by the prime minister on the economy first of all was going to poison says he wants to see the role of the state and of state monopolies reduced for example gas from which as quite an influence on our russia's business like secondly the fight against corruption especially in the sphere of high level kickbacks during state orders and purchases more attention is needed to be made there as well now another major problem for the economy according to the prime minister is a dependency on natural resources which has to be reduced as well and argument
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which and says that if these issues would be dealt with successfully it should improve the investment climate in the country and increase the economies competitiveness against other international players there's also another point worth mentioning from that article and that is the idea to propose the world's tax which should concern v.a.p. real estate and other a luxury purchases an issue which has been and is still being discussed in russian society for quite some time now. the e.u. leaders may have gathered in brussels for talks on boosting growth in creating jobs but there's an elephant in the room that's hard to ignore athens is still on the verge of bankruptcy as it struggles to agree a debt reduction deal and they're adults the country is even able to control its finances of course want to test australia reports from brussels. they're supposed to talk more about the fiscal compact they had agreed upon at the last summit as
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well as push for the e.s.m. european stability mechanism which is the permanent bailout fund we will put in place now in june instead of july these are the official informal topics but greece is still hanging over their heads especially since there have been war of words between the greece and germany with the germans are calling for moving taxing and spending power over to brussels and the german finance minister saying that the europeans are willing to support greece as long as greece actually implements the decisions instead of just talking about it well the greeks had responded to that with a lot of the still to be saying that this is definitely out of the question especially since it's a matter of national sovereignty and one former minister who's now the greek education minister had actually called it quote unquote a product of a sick imagination so you can you can tell that the greeks are definitely upset with the german suggestion now why did the german suggest that this is because of that ongoing talks between the greeks and their creditors it's still dry.
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