because aussie it would triple the headline. the u.n. security council meets on syria simming to seek consensus rather than any armed action russia says left on the road to move the train to bounce in un sanctions against country calling for dialogue between the opposition and the assad regime live pictures coming from new york. and also in syria itself clashes between government forces on the rebel fighters continue on the outskirts of the council the opposition has rejected the transfer talks with the country's president in stand for ratcheting back assad family would have brutal and bloody and. sixteen

and a half million people are out of work in the eurozone and the unemployment rate has a record ten point three percent and that was through the blackout of the single currency the figures were released just a day off to eat as he said behavior is degree to most jobs about that summit of twenty. and those are the headlines for you now as he's going to hold talks to alexander should've been a co-founder of russia's pirate policy about all the internet of tomorrow will look like spotlight is next with. you know today my guest in the studio is. the internet today is the place where almost any media is available for free for content providers

this is a problem that costs money to make movies music and games they want protection for their invest. how this can be achieved without risk freedom of information ideas so candid be a compromise or their formation battle is set to run forever we're asking one of the leaders of the russian pirate party that advocates complicates freedom of the instruments. during the last five years the world has seen the rise of the so-called pirate parties these are groups struggling to reform copyright and patent wars in favor of free transfer of information at the moment there are pirate parties in about forty countries around the globe some of the european ones take part in local legislatures and. even the two seats in the european parliament most of the world's hard party supported recent protests

against the a.m.d. p.r.p. a bills in the last congress they claimed they were a threat to freedom of information and an attempt to introduce censorship. of the welcome to the show thank you thank you very much for being with us today well first of all i'd like you to comment on the situation that we see in the united states the the draft i mean this and people why did these laws why did the discussion of the. provoke such an outrage how could how could it change the lives of the ordinary americans if they if they're finally passed but only ordinary americans and i think for us it's very important that america now is the something capital of the world and what they do the. after some time with so involved for now situation and our life and you know the internet is

basing something some part of internet and reason on america and if the. agonized this new to literary and the rules of the game there it will be here and of course it's very dangerous that they drive step by step attempt after attempt to make this literary and control on the internet and we know all the actions. including the arresting of people for example in userland when all the silence saw or of course we are protesting and of course we understand that that is a lot of it but you're protesting here you're not protecting americans you're trying to protect the russians we want to do it for the only everybody out everybody everybody now we are we are living in the world and the people who live inside internet they are living in the walls not only in russia or in america and we live in a new reality and in this reality we protect ourselves so if we are you virtual

reality you are realistic because virtual reality is part of reality and maybe dominie ting part of the reality to be this is going research to hear what you know it. may be not because intellectual life is a life. in internet it is a very important intellectual to write. to to the sore point people it's not forced attempt and it is not lost it is part of big between grass root. networks civil society from one side and. authoritarian people in states broke it is national corporations and of course internet money political structures which wants to make such a law that before court can arrest resource so it is telling these unused hellenism not less. i guess ok well armed eighteenth of

january more than one hundred fifteen thousand websites all to their web pages all went off my protesting against us anti-piracy legislation spotlights in the me there has more on the biggest online progress in internet history. for many internet users around the world junior eighteenth was a day when their favorite web pages were blacked out or changed it was also the day when they learned two new acronyms and people abbreviations of the controversial american anti-piracy bills the stop online piracy act sopa and who tapped into that river see act when making their way through the u.s. congress those opposing the laws in their provisions have been written so broadly that they could eventually lead to some say ship on the mat and harm millions of

innocent users internet giants such as google and you tube wakened the bills to chinese style media control the online protest manned some of internet's largest and most popular resources like wikipedia shut down for twenty four hours the next day peaceful online protest gave way to a massive hacker attack when the group anonymous crippled the us government and the entertainment industry sites a response to the closure of the popular file sharing the. side mega. advocates of the online freedom celebrated on january twentieth when the u.s. congress announced it would indefinitely postponed voted on so part and people the controversial legislation will now be rewritten in the hope of finding a better balance between online freedom and copyright protection but a compromise that suits everyone will be almost impossible to find making round two

of the battle for the internet only a certainty. well you and your friends you colleagues are trying to find the so people have bills to delay but despite the decision on the bills the u.s. authorities have closed down the upload one of the biggest biggest file sharing sites in the world so doesn't that mean that the existing legislation is enough to to to to to to fight piracy in the minutes so so why do you have to fight the soper people and why do they need this so people what's it all about first of all. enemies try to protect in different ways of course with so-called people or it will be more useful to attack for them easier. because this sort of this deal it is

a really stolen istic crack six practice tool because it is a field this make up a lot you can point you can give it is the same as a rest. big market. because some people came there and. you know i would i would suggest to you to compare it with you know we once i know if it's like this when i was a kid we have these places in moscow where we shame stamps or exams we can we just just so you might even even the soviets couldn't close them because we were not tracing we would unit. it is interesting to interact but we must resist in this way in this way in this way it is a big battlefield including by the way a russia tool because in russia we could have a big troubles with these problems because some structures who want to control internet sell some structures want to for example arrest you all because in your computer is something with the world to prepare that you buy. we have heard about

serious problems internet problems in china yes but do you really as a member of this pirate probably do you really see any serious threats to internet freedom in russia are you serious about yes because we know some cases for example in carson and our region where some of the logical activists had very big problems according to them and no problems because their computers were arrested because some product inside this computer was not. they have not only prepare us to have this product. in this way every single activist can be arrested saw can be put in courts more than the reality and of course we are against it because . it's not a problem of money really it's a problem of control what's wrong with copyright. what's wrong with copyrights for

example author and i don't afraid of if somebody can copy my book in internet why because my copyright for me is that my name must be mentioned if my idea is in use what's the problem of my meaning in this situation i don't think about it. so deeply that's all it is big big problem for me as an author because. if my book is internet of course much more people want to buy it in reality in a short much more people because they prefer for example in the library talking to . a variant so i understand that there's a problem of we're a little parts of producers and their supporters as an author so you are not against books being freely published in the. including your own books i saw

dozens of them today in the net for free but you want your copyright still to exist for you to be able to sell them ok i'll sell. them to what my main interest in a corporate author is i most my name must be mentioned if it doesn't use what so it's not my problem so i think something should be in one of the leaders of the russian i would spotlight will be back shortly after great so stay with us go go. culture is that so much given to you each musician on the mark with siri on the brink my aunt escalates in the same battle country the calls for strong sanctions

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on the go. video on demand. minefield comes an r.s.s. feed now in the palm of your. question on the dot com. welcome back to spotlight algor nabhan just a reminder that my guest on the show today is alexander should be one of the leaders of the russian pirate party mr shubrick you said that you are i've nothing against your books being freely available in the internet but how will authors make their living if their books are available for free i mean there's an absurd really work of three ways very good for office and for me as an

author i have more than twenty books. involved in this problem first of all. is a mortar or trait and in turn that. trade off for good so which you can have in your hands and what a big part of people want to have as a reality not only the text in the computer for example i can say that our intellectual literature in russia now have. three stars and. five stars and corporate book for millions of people and of course if my book will be widespread in internet more people want to wait not less its first seconds for example imagine i want to write three books and i put an intern the three web. and see if you prayed for this what money i will promote. will work with this

book more quickly with this is not so good and it is free choice for people who want to read my books and without a need to total by the way it is directly of course it is more useful for me ok i want to ask you a couple of questions about your party in general will pirates the pirate party we know pirate parties in europe are associated primarily with for aiding for freedom of information and against copyright laws but what is your broader vision of a society you will live to live in because as far as we understand today under the new more liberal laws you are getting ready to become a real political party in russia really we are of course real political party with very wide program and now we are in for more concrete program of course what we have ideas about everything has all parties all the real parties

and our key idea is not this copyright problem our key idea is computer democracy and drawn in democracy we are for example in future against parliaments because we think that really all decision can be. realized in internet so by ordinary little do you believe that the internet really is capable of changing the way politics is done for six years we are not a right margin we are not. stimulate a left party because we have some elements for example of socialist ideas of self management direct democracy economical democracy some ideas of course of freedom individual freedom and we are part of a future and this electronic democracy this computer democracy can involve on economical planning but it will be a very free very democratic a planning indicative plain it is

a democracy and. it's democracy of course inside the state and we're promoting this idea as and we now really make platforms for which are using pirates are going to explode internet platform and know our civil societies are rooting for their civil salvi serial console in moscow by this are. you working on the platforms you working on technologies that will allow citizens to effectively control the government you know you me you mean not doing the internet is really closing the gap between the government governors and the government is that right to control go second to really to vote for lords ordinary people must want followers not deported this is why do we need a pirate party to fight for these principles are the existing parties enough

to include the do it in them to they are very old for these they are very old no communist party annoy you do you know what i see nor. do you know it is interesting and these are there for all forms they are like feudal parties in terms of revolution they are for yet they're always going to use ok so then how would you explain the success of the parties in june. and in sweden does that inspire his because of this that we are only one part of a future you know this old world in deep crisis in a parson nobody knows how to go out of this powerful on the pirate party make program for future for future society and that's i would say i had in the explanation my explanation is that maybe in countries like dan dan and mark sweden

germany people go slow a little bit sick and tired of politics they don't distinguish between different parties the the moderate left of the right move the these so so so the pirate party is the only party the chance to people about something that they're interested in there and they're really calling for a real change down here but. if in this case maybe we would have majority but we have no majority majority of people don't like all the parties yes it is but we have been normal georgia even in germany you know so we have really our all sectors are all sector of voters who really support this new point of view new topics of discussion and maybe it's not majority but it is a real waterless who don't want to have some fun not only what they want

a real new discussion only human shouldn't the russian president meeting with some members of your party among other people also the russian communication is through influential man in the field mr shargel if he visited one of your meetings where you gatherings we will do since where you went to to which extent according to your understanding is he sharing your ideas or easy i think that. our states now have got a big lack of new ideas and what is the searching for something new. i think this talk about innovation all the time but i don't know what is it if we make this call coa don't want to what to do with this. maybe introspect money of more severe good idea to spend money for them but they don't know what to realise and we know what of course of this music of sugar if it was an official it was an official we gather it in bookstore it was in our stuff and he said that

or i went to buy some books all you are part of the body how is interesting really of course it was it was not only an incident and it was a real discussion of it and when my main point of the discussion was there to reset we need to now this computer democracy and we have concrete ideas how to realise it's also fears and that maybe it's very interesting but we have no society which want this computer democracy from the state society don't want and we ask why so you know people don't want free movies on the internet they want to bring. this is probably not now not the electronic democracy something another the dawn towards the dawn. influence or thing about they don't want democracy well i think i think i would be on your side rather than

a shovel of side in this discussion because as we remember most of the people gathered during these rallies after the after the last elections here. in the central moscow and in a zahara. the great rallies were gathered through the internet through facebook through computer and this is computer margaret so it does exist and these people are on our side now and we ask why you want why you know how you can know you know nothing about you people are people who are living in what the. we want and our this ideas of electronic democracy and free exchange of influence can make society more general more more more consolidated by the way now we have split society in norwood in norse what's a real russian citizens want from the state well i'm not sure the internet will give us an idea of what it's one of the ways citizens it is one of their always

science because internet voting is biased as any other voting probably not really because if you make through internet elections of deporting of course it is really it is a competition or morning competition of images and so on but then the real electronic democracy people discuss the lore in internet they don't discuss dip which is they discard the lot what's another this is thing is because because when you talk about elections or elections of m.p.'s well it's like it's like finding a wife who's in truth very very few years all really are i themselves spells through the net because because we're not really excel you can find something real through through your veterinarian your own member software it partly because we are going to decide this election first. ok well. justice ruth used to register your partly because of the word pirate you see piracy is something

illegal so you shouldn't keep this in the name of the party will you stick to that would privacy or your age or drop it in order to become legal first of all we think that it is not according to the law because they're exploiting their letter was that pirates of the people who. was accused in court because of budget isn't in the c c we are not so you must. have some clue. yes and your. and so we want to struggle to have a strong goal for our name but of course we are real politician and we understand that our states don't think about law all the time. and we may be can change one letter. and if we will be for example not a party. they could prove that we are this my realtor who is in

somalia for example with the nets instead of the c.e.o. nobody can understand thank you thank you very much it was very nice talking to you and just a reminder that my guest today was alexander shubin one of the leaders of the russian pirate part and that's it for now from politics here if you want to time your sales spotlight drop the spotlight will be back with more comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take care thank you.

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