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welcome bob this is all secret check of the headlines at home front be our. size it won't banca weapons involved in damascus because of the armed opposition groups operating in the country that some u.n. members refuse to acknowledge meanwhile u.s. security council ambassadors are trying to iron out a trough resolution on syria in closed session. the first day on appeal in london against the exhibition a whistle blow it through to a staunch to sweden centered on the issue of the swedish prosecutors income challenged weekly external data states educations of sexual assault of medically motivated the response to his website publishing secret u.s.
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cables. and. tehran is ready to cooperate on the issues over its settlement program and inspect his plans to make another trip next month meanwhile israel's in the tree chief claims iran could how to meet that capability within the. next days second part of our special report that takes a fresh look at the impact of guns in america. if you want to blame god for it and you get in they will then store good any gun store they're going to write a background check or rather what you buy there. and they are big event is a gun show they have a huge chance and this is where the gun store sellers can also go and set shop but the individual people who own guns the person in question can come and also set up a table and do this in itself against the gay seller says shabbes they're still held to the same legislation that they need to a background check on every purchase or food to people who can sell privately off
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sometimes you know the same gang that took place and selling has is now required to write a background check said why are you not holding this to sell or sell you same the same trads to same standard that's the problem just a loophole. her gun show. but they have to. go have a. way to let me get. to it i. thought i. heard it right. there are all right automatic round all the drivers. right when i. read all. right we're going to have
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a. girl i know you. know. that they have never seen anything. like you. and i met her. this entire transaction that we just recorded braid broke no law federal or state law this is why i want to do isp has to show these simple transactions and say this is something that's perfectly legal if for countless shot i think we are like most
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americans who didn't have much involvement with gun violence and never to share lives and we weren't really involved in the issue or didn't know all of the facts i knew that there were a lot of deaths the newspaper it should beat it and that many were cheated to guns but i didn't really realize how big the problem was i to my son was sitting in french class in a small college town and he actually four kinds. that makes it to me makes it any could be anyone could anything it could be anything. after i recovered. and went back to school. i always think you brought this issue. the gun show loophole is one of the simplest steps you can search for to improve the safety of guns falling into the wrong hands. so this is going to be a top primarily about the epidemiology of violence the prevention of violence some research that's been done you all know that my area of expertise in general
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is what happens upstream in that chain of events that brings people to the emergency department having been exposed to it i decided this was something that needs to be quantified it's a story that needs to be told. the whole report will deal with what i see is the problematic aspects of what goes on it controls how guns are bought and sold anonymously how they're bought sold illegally what kind of weapons are bought and sold so many aspects of the relationship between gun shows in extreme right wing politics neo nazi ism the neo confederacy. one of the things that i've been able to document is a straw purchase that is illegal everywhere and here's how it works let's say that i'm prohibited from owning guns i'm a felon but you are not i'm going to hire you to buy a gun for me from
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a licensed retailer there's one in phoenix the real purchaser is handing cash to the straw purchaser in the red t. shirt which the straw purchaser then puts in his pocket the two of them walk around the corner where the real purchaser indicates the gun that he wants to buy. the straw purchaser gets hold of a sales clerk indicates that that's the gun the straw purchaser is completing the paperwork and to a more senior person at the at this retailer he gets on the phone as he is required to do and he calls the national instant criminal background check system but he's got the straw purchasers identification not surprisingly keep has passed the background check the straw purchaser hands over the money the real purchaser moves in and helps pack up the gun nobody had the sense that
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a body was watching nobody had to sense if they would get in any trouble so that felonies were conducted right out in the open they're the kind of transactions that make it easy for criminals to get guns. not too many years ago the air force commissioned a study of these weapons pointing out the fact that no airport civilian or military was entirely safe the range of these weapons was such that a determined bad guy could be well outside the security perimeter of an airport and still have a fair shot at an airliner as it took off or landed. these guns are available from private individuals for cash no background check no waiting period no questions no record. more hate mail today. and. this is on the list for the house
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for who we think could be a likely co-sponsor on the legislation that we have a twenty three twenty four the gun show loophole built and as of today we can move a couple more marks right here for example. as you mark each one you know that means they have agreed to co-sponsor our bill in the house. the basic requirement is hold everyone at these gun shows everyone who sells guns to the same standards that's the first step it's not all private sales which is however much we would like to see all private sales but it's it's kind of the most from the most reasonable the most common sense first step with that. forum and we're doing the video undercover video when you're speaking here how's this going to be for that first game in how many. minutes we'll be doing about seven in the forum or be the biggest event that i've ever spoken i think you get a lot of your story i think it's important to have and i've spoken at rallies but
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i've never spoken in front of congress so this would be it for me is definitely a big day you know the main thing what up this is to tell this story to tell. well to answer the questions. you know you're laying the groundwork for us to build for next year two years to come ok i feel good. i feel nervous you'll do great if most people agree that felons should be able to buy guns why shouldn't we do a background check on us thanks to the gun lobby in the n.r.a. a try to think of every argument they could to stop this big banks fall and they do it with the idea that we're really out here protecting your right forget ownership but what they're really doing is they're protecting the gun manufacturers and the gun dealers and ending up supporting the illegal gun distribution system in this country. richard feldman spent two decades working with one of the nation's most secretive organizations the national rifle association his new memoir confessions
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of a gun lobbyist chronicles his time with the n.r.a. and other gun groups you write that the n.r.a. often likes to draw lines of us versus them do you think there unwillingness to compromise has contributed to the success now that's a fair very fair question yes if we define success his fundraising it certainly has been very successful when you do fund raising you want to have an identifiable enemy you want to keep the issue black and white the word compromise to the n.r.a. is a dirty word never give an inch is the slogan fighting is good for the n.r.a. doing battle is good but they have to make issues sometimes when issues don't really exist just to keep that fund raising going well when they were asked to comment on your book a spokes person told the washington post we don't comment on works of fiction. we all know that the n.r.a. is powerful and that the n.r.a.
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is really what's about when they turn on one of their own and he decides to turn back on them it's kind of like peering into a burlap sack full of ill tempered minks so i just ask you on a personal level having been a top lobby. at the n.r.a. having been essentially forced out of the gun lobby by the n.r.a. being unhappy with your approach to things how has this been for you personally to have been really kind of booted out well they needed to get rid of me because they want to be the only game in town and when i cut that voluntary child safety law the zero with bill clinton without getting the table blessing from an r.a. we were threatening there jenny over this issue thank you it was a remarkable gathering in the rose garden this morning because here with the hand good industry and the president actually agreeing on something i'm pleased to announce that eight of the largest handgun manufacturers will now provide child safety devices with every new handgun they sell back in one nine hundred ninety
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seven there was legislation in the senate to mandate child safety locks on guns there was pretty much universal agreement in the industry that we ought to do this on our own get the credit for doing it we thank you mr president without having legislative or regulatory mandates on the way we had to do it the n.r.a. came unglued after that announcement i sort of went from the guy who came from n.r.a. representing the industry to being an r a's public enemy number two. well we had really done was end several fundraisers for them i mean once we made the decision to include child safety locks it was no sense of posing something that's already a done deal. i don't think n.r.a. senior leadership like that too much to feel secure in.
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thirty to forty aisles of those probably fifty thousand people going to be here over the next four days and this is just one of three false. n.r.a. volunteers they need a lot of volunteers as they pay that staff so much. they are worth it or you're. yeah well they are and they've been watching us i guess. you know we got you. where you didn't have to prepare a party for me. or three earlier this. where
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i just said. well we have to check the symbols and it's not just the n.r.a. i say haven't done any and is anyone that an r.a. everywhere isaac has an angle. here i'd like to know that this particular issue is actually very. yeah i mean it's you know we don't die. very only there's a church. every. i don't know if you farai we got pulled off the floor earlier today really yells you criticize the n.r.a. why don't think i said it on film where they had a alley some people were nervous. this is one for the history books the first ever supreme court declaration that america's right to own a gun so protect. it is the first time the us supreme court has ever taken up the right to bear arms under the second amendment says it was ratified back and seven hundred eighty one the second amendment rights justice antonin scalia protection
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individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia and to use it for lawful purposes such as self-defense just a school leo was careful not to throw out all gun control laws stating flatly the second amendment right is not unlimited. what do you see as being the current state of gun laws you know taking into context the history of american gun laws and where you think it's going i think in large measure the fire on the base in america is really over in a kind of a self-supporting and if it's cause goes away it goes away they need a dragon to slay in order to continue to develop their membership in order to motivate their members and in order to fundraise from their members i get a fundraising letter from the n.r.a. about every other or every third week. and some a lot it is and some of them are really pretty intense and here's one from
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from the summer dear mr feldman some of congress' most powerful anti gunners demanding a registration list of every american gun owner they want your name this to tell them and they want to know where you live your address that's pretty frightening stuff i kind of disagree with the idea of scaring your members out of their hard earned dollars precedented government intervention chipping away at your rights to your freedom the n.r.a. instills a tremendous amount of fear in its members and the thing is it works. it motorized their members but you can stop them if you look at the historical moment there's really very limited threats to gun rights i mean we just came out of eight years of george bush in republican controlled congress we saw gun rights legislation during that period not gun control legislation two thousand and seven we see the worst single shooter killing spree in the history of the country at virginia tech and
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here a few years later we have virginia passing gun rights legislation right so repealing some of the earlier gun control legislation that was passed do you believe in your right to own a gun you so you may be an endangered species called one eight seven seven two thousand and join the n.r.a. i think there are a range of n.r.a. members and among the most committed are the true believers the diehard n.r.a. members those are the gun crusaders. maybe one of the n.r.a. members would fall into this category there's a huge chunk of gun owners in our country who are not n.r.a. members the n.r.a. has a membership of about four million or something like eighty million gun owners in our country but the n.r.a. is driven by these gun crusaders these really hard in that they were. they were able to create these and really. the biggest deliberation of the urban centers the n.r.a. is able to recruit intensely committed members because they're framing gun rights
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or threats to gun rights in a way that makes them feel like all their rights are threatened or you're proud of your parents really want to stay in school or i was. thank you i was. right thank you very much i was right. thank you. there are good audience is conservative white gun owning men and they feel pinched and they feel sort of displaced in our society i've been fired up. the last election i got enough change already and again only more if you have been losing the country to others they feel like the minority they feel like you know immigrants and lesbians people of color are taking over the country and these conservative whites are now the numerical minority so they're going to act the n.r.a. offers a message that not only are guns being taken away but so are your core beliefs your
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identity your values your status your power is that correct my interpretation of what you said is that the right to insurrection against the federal government is a god given right that you're protecting god given sure that is correct. our founders did they have this political propaganda that essentially the federal government is depriving americans of their free and that they are resistance there shouldn't be any federal gun control or the federal government has no authority should be no federal jails there should not be you know if the guy just out this is a move as potential radical if not revolutionary. intentions self-defense is a. benefit of being able to shoot the government. that's why we have a second amendment that's what we did with it we shot the government when the government broke the contract with the american colonies we shot up and we pushed
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them out issue i call this the insurrectionists theory of the second amendment and it's very dangerous it is an idea that is a threat to the very foundations of our democracy it's a foul it's a threat to the rule of law itself it's an invitation to vigilante isn't it's an invitation to take up arms literally against public officials if you don't like what they're doing. if you have any doubt about how dangerous that is reflecting back on the oklahoma city bombing. it is a devastate. and on certainty in a small city that has never before been touched by terrorism to missing a line it was an individual who absorbed this. ideology and he acted it out he concluded that the time for revolution had come. to the federal building . and he knew that one of the agencies in that building was the bureau of alcohol
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tobacco and fire which was the government agency that he thought would be the one to come for. in ohio citizen soldiers trained for urban combat while snipers in michigan practice with high powered. this insurrectionist idea which is also what motivates these militia groups formed back in the ninety's and reforming again a report out today he claims fifty new militia training and sprung up in less than two years just one law enforcement source but a dangerous mix is brewing and all that's missing is a spark. the founders were very clear about this it wasn't for honey that we have the second amendment they fear they feared big government and that is why the people should be armed it doesn't mean that we're agitating for the use of these arms but it always holds government in check we can't continue expanding the
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domestic and title and system so the time will come hopefully we will never have to use the weapons for self defense but we should be prepared but the most important thing that we do is to understand the importance of defending liberty so that we can preserve the greatness of this country i thank you very much. the rest of the world has figured out that they can do something about gun violence other countries have taken steps to license guns to register gods that require training and i'm not saying all those are things that should be done here does this early but there are things that we can do. since we don't think bad guys should
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have guns we should do background checks and find out if those who are buying guns are bad guys or not we do that for some sales we don't do it for all of them we should do it for all of them it's just that simple did gun safety kids stop selling guns to. liking him to a straw sales are one of the most common ways they can to get into the hands of criminals why within congress give foresman the resources to do undercover inspections if thirty percent of the trafficking cases are connected to conscious why would you close the gun show loophole. the way it works here is that congress is so afraid of everything else the n.r.a. can do to them that they won't make the simple gesture to make all of us safe so you've got to try to find the middle ground into the gun show loophole is the thing that the public really begin.
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to think this bill has any chance i mean the areas opposes this the saddest string of victories for the supreme court here on capitol hill is still d.c. voting rights i mean. first of the going up against itself is that it was bad today . no background check. no background. the fact is congressman i wouldn't be sitting here in front of you today for the events that are going to sixteenth two thousand and seven invasion in turkey. i wouldn't be sitting here in front of you today if it wasn't for the ten minutes of hell that i survived on that day and i wouldn't be sitting here in front of you today if our federal gun laws had been stronger the existing brady act as it is written is too weak to protect future americans from up from another some reach zero or other predator birch cers i can think of no reasonable responsible logical
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reason why that should be. the fact is congressman i wouldn't be sitting here in front of you to me if i didn't believe every part of me that my elected officials will do what is responsible and reasonable to protect their citizens thank you very much for your time mr god i just like to say that your testimony is compelling is a testimony i've heard. i would hope that all members of congress could hear that could make a big difference clearly with this particular issue so i want to thank all our witnesses today foremost concluded. thank you all of us still another college campus shooting this time in northern illinois university in dekalb in them am in northern illinois is the myths shooting and public schools and colleges in just one week what's it going to take one columbine happened people thought of columbine start enough nothing's enough well columbine wasn't enough
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a couple of years ago there was a whole string of shootings on campus of virginia tech certainly most horrifically and people said if this isn't enough nothing's enough old bridge in your tank wasn't enough not even in virginia let alone a federal law so i frankly don't know what's.
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