she also made sure not to waive her legislative immunity because you see if she had she would have been subjected to sobriety test just like the rest of us but i guess that she had been reading on the special privileges granted to her in the colorado constitution like being able to endanger the lives of other people in colorado by driving drunk and just a side note here she also had a gun in the car which would have been a misdemeanor offense had she been under the influence now denver police have since apologized for what they characterize as special treatment for the lawmaker and she's been suspended from her committee chairmanships since seems about right to me clearly this law was not intended to let lawmakers get plastered of political events and then get off scot free but leave it to them to use it that way and for the police to allow it one set of rules for elected officials and another for all the rest of us so for embracing that very undemocratic ideal or was that of laura bradford is tonight's till time winner.

ok guy the time for happy hour joining me this evening is our producer jenny churchill and mike riggs associate editor at reason magazine and reason dot com hey guys i'm going. ok we have a spoke about last week or was it earlier this week and where do you totally losing it but anyway twitter decided to change its censorship policy and a lot of people were upset about it. it was an important tool in the arab spring uprising now twitter has changed its technology so it can censor messages on a country by country basis. well turns out that somebody is following in their footsteps or maybe not exactly google is now our has announced changes to its blogger free blogging platform so they're going to name a blocking in blocking of content only in certain countries where censorship is

required and it turns out that they did this like three weeks ago four weeks ago and they just didn't tell anybody until some blogger actually found it in their policy surprise google was being sneaky again and he i don't know why this sort of seems like the cost of doing business in foreign countries my my our it is just totally exhausted on all the stuff we have the obama administration selling arms deals to bahrain and syria. on the sly and it's like i'm just exhausted with being outraged about this you know so but there's so much to be outraged about there is there's like tons but i mean it's sort of what do we call what do we do i mean do we like stop trade with these countries altogether i mean if google doesn't adhere to these policies they can operate on these you know autocratic places so i mean i think that this becomes one of those arguments you know you ask well is is this better than them just kind of you unilaterally censoring things well i think that's the wrong question i think that we're in a situation where we have to look at things as well this level of censoring is

actually better than the other level of censoring we have a problem what i do there's a lot of nuance to this and we you know we talked about the twitter story the first time around too we mentioned that and so i think if they have the right idea at least twitter and what they've applied is that they're asking people that as soon as you see one of your tweets censored you know take it to this web site so they can post it and make it public and so people are at least aware of what's going on but i don't know it's a do you play along with the game or into you to you know it's the debate now let's talk about something that is really messed up and outrageous and probably had just a million women all over the country crying today. blame it on the packaging and it could leave women with an inadequate dose of the drug raising the risk for pregnancy it affects about one million packets in the u.s. pfizer says the pills may contain and not not enough contraceptive to prevent pregnancy. it's just the most messed up thing i mean on the planet there's a million packets of birth control out there with all these pills right and you're

taking it and you think you're doing the right thing and then how many babies are going to be accidently can sound like a prude but there still is one form of birth control this one hundred percent effective ladies oh my goodness i'm not going to say i'm. going to say ok i think you're going to try to come on our knowing. this is the most effect that's an abstinence. i'm super excited for is when the class action lawsuit comes and the ads are everywhere going with your gift from god a mistake well you. know. i don't well that's a sad thing is that you know that there's a bunch of you know anti birth control people out there that are pro-life that is green and that was my first thought was was this really an accident or an act of pro life terrorism there. are. really i said it was a good. and that we get thrown around

a lot ok let's this is just quite interesting you know what do you do if you're really really rich old guy and you want to make sure that your money goes to a certain person i guess you don't take a look at it. good when also facing a civil lawsuit from the victim's parents and some court observers say that adopting his girlfriend is forty two on the surface appears to be an effort to hide some of his assets. that's right he has officially adopted his forty two year old girlfriend as his daughter which inched entitles her to one third of the trust that he set up for his two biological children. and who are clearly awful awful i mean like how bad you have to be as a child to force your father to adopt is not necessarily you know what. older men could be susceptible to younger attractive when. he said oh he's there i'm being there was just like you wish in your you know you know when you buy

a long association is maybe the kids suck maybe it's the evil step mom. that's very very disappointed it's clear we have a child and when it was really really. i mean one day i mail the next day and anti-woman you can't make up your mind i just kind of thought. i don't even know anymore how much i just find this really interesting because i think this adds kind of like a new level to the whole incest thing like we were in and saw us before. in a weird way we kind of are you have all my money i don't know it's weird well yeah i mean now can happen to them legally because they're still sleeping with each other because i just all i know is what i want for ever refer to this is a reverse woody allen. where i mean what i want to see this guy got the order right ok right sleep with her then adopt or not you know don't adopt and. i think you're going to actually going when your order matter it's absolutely does and that's a perfect just like with her not example you know order number ations.

order newt gingrich is that we can pedia somebody do a little messing with a day later he were accurately reflect his marriages so first one to cancer. for people to be a swinger calista returned to mars or two thousand and twelve return of mars i mean it's pretty good it's really it's pretty good but there's so many pretty awful i just want to know what it is like what it is just enough cancer you know i mean too much cancer is pretty funny but what's just enough you would you are you would want . to know i was doing actually curious so much that i was newt gingrich how little cancer could you have had you would have stayed with i think what you just the lymph nodes you know the zero he's a purist yeah i think that we really are clearly i listened to our last story here . which is just even so much better so there are six people that are facing racketeering charges for operating what federal authorities say are was a four million dollars prostitution ring right here in the d.c.

area and they also committed money laundering and used violence to run this business and. what little name it came up as one of the people charged with counts in running this prostitution ring jenny you never told us well i mean i have to say one day it just came to me and i thought you know why i get a mail order russian bride when i have all these beautiful russians right here you know obviously that's not me here you know which one of his aliases is jersey. i heard that you were actually you mad i'm not. you know but it was actually super awkward because i was getting legitimate questions from people about whether or not that was. i mean you're exactly what you want to register a lick right we're going to what do you think my we saw earlier isn't that isn't that what russian script is called sarah looked up the sort of my we start every time i go mad if there's ever again. the fans the fans are going to come out

against you again. my concern is fans get mad when i hate on her anyways let's wrap this over again or trouble thank you for joining me tonight that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in ad make you come back tomorrow brewer from vision strategy of going to twenty three happy hour in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the ellen show on facebook you can follow us on twitter if there's anything you ever missed you can catch it on the you tube dot com slash the on the shelf and up next. me is eve ok. to.

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both. of the. well i'm john berman in washington d.c. and this is the big picture coming up on our show tonight radical factions of tarnish the image of occupy oakland and the occupy movement as a whole what we've done about the violence and how can the movement get back to its peaceful protest roots also arizona governor jan brewer is waging a new war what it's against and how will it impact impact the people of arizona and later in tonight's daily take twice this week a single payer health care bill has failed to pass in congress what's going on and who's really pulling the strings in sacramento but first it's time for the lone

liberal rumble. on the panel for tonight's lone liberal rumble deprecate corey conservative blogger and freelance journalist and jack too sick republican strategist great to have you both with us tonight i think you. last night mitt romney won the florida g.o.p. primary an absolute landslide wipe you know newt gingrich by what twelve points wasn't an audience of them like that and that didn't see any after his when the d.n.c. released a statement saying romney and his super pac outspent his nearest opponent by nearly thirteen thousand ads to newt gingrich's two hundred ads carpet bombing the airways of negative ads in fact romney's campaign has already spent more on negative ads than john mccain spent on all advertising in his entire primary campaign from beginning to end. similarly mitt romney's super pac raked in thirty million bucks

from just two hundred donors this is the super one percenters during the second half of two thousand and eleven so the question is did mitt romney really win the primary or did he buy it and what does this mean about american politics and who's the real winner in florida is it romney or as of the wall street people who put up all the money for these ads. well you know i think it's ironic that here the democratic national committee would say that romney ran such a negative campaign considering that barack obama in two thousand and eight ran the most negative campaign in history when you say that money in politics is a bad thing where you really are saying that people who give that money so the people that support him is what did that you know that's i'm sure actually what i'm saying is that i think that having it we suppose bribery that having money in politics having a heavy influence groups pay pay for politicians or put them into office is not a healthy thing for democracy whether it's republican or democrat you can debate whether or not a super pac is a good or bad thing and how many people give too but look at how much money his campaign itself raise and how many people that gave money to him directly i gave him money people to do that that poured him using money from people who support him

and in fact he's actually using people support to do that you don't win campaigns by just going up to him being a pretty face and smiling and talking you have to put t.v. ads up there but well deborah he's you know he outspent newt gingrich two to one in . south carolina and there is still beating he had outspending five to one in florida to beat him. i think that mitt romney basically won the florida primary because he ran a very well organized very positive campaign in the face of the other candidates ninety percent of the ads were his i have that story anti-gay marriage ads the fact the matter is that newt gingrich is his own problem nobody had to run negative ads against him he ran plenty of negative media against him all over the place that i would ever get on fox news all over the place jumping on his throat well and plenty of other people and there are plenty of other pundits that have come out of me i myself finally came out against him but the reality is i was like the last of many people in conservative media to come out against him newt gingrich did him self and with his comments like that but so much that i wouldn't even i haven't been around

against if shelly adelson had written to five million dollars i mean he would have been there so really wasn't the shelley versus john paulson you can't win a campaign just by spending a lot of money on fancy ads people can see through that the american people aren't stupid saying that spending money on ads as well one the campaign for him. it's completely unfair but you know it's just it concerns me the state of our you know way and i'm going to see the same thing in the presidential election on both sides and any fresh off his performance in the florida primary that was interviewed this morning on c.n.n. here's what he had to say. in this race because i care about americans i'm not concerned about the very poor we have a safety net their efforts to repair are not concerned about the very poor we have a safety net there the center for budget and policy priorities says the government fell short in even adequately assisting a majority of those in poverty in two thousand and ten forty nine point nine million americans live below the poverty line fifty three point eight additional

americans are considered low income according to the census data. in total forty three percent of the nation is liquid asset poor which means that they are too cheap to pay checks away from being genuinely poor totally stoned out on the street forty three percent of americans that romney just just half of america now not at all i think if you listen to the entire comment which he made a point of saying in that interview because i want to as well that he's that you know i am concerned about poor people who do have a safety net if there is a problem this system i will fix it and in a lot of ways that's better than what we're getting from our common president because he really cares he's saying i care about fixing the system if there's a problem i'm going to fix that i'm not going to just you know pull its entire line about helping the poor people in need and york that comic policies that her people to fix the fix that was proposed and and voted for by virtually every republican in the in the house and senate was let's turn medicare into a voucher program putting that aside from one of its return back to mr romney's comments what he was really trying to say is there is no social safety net for the

middle class those are the people being hammered the worst in this country they're feeling it the worst they're losing their jobs they're moving into that poverty position they have for a lot of on the safety net and that's what he's really trying to get ads if you look across the country those are the people who need to help them right so if the very real. veiling and thank you for pointing that out because it's seems to me that that what you just said is that romney's strategy in the election is going to be to play on obama's turf obama has already defined the rules of the game as basically are you with the middle class or are you with the one percent and romney's going to say that he's with the one percent he's with the middle class he's not with the one percent even though he is the one percent and he's being funded by them. i fry the fact that matters and if you study history i mean i'm sure you have i'm not saying that and i kind of anyway but i just mean for anyone we know that a strong society healthy economic society has a strong middle class i agree you are always in trouble in a society where you have the rich and the poor if you have a strong middle class so what romney is saying is he wants to restore economic

policy to the country by getting that middle class all the talk with our middle class with strongest was from the not the one nine hundred forty s. the one nine hundred eighty s. and what did you have that you had a top ten marginal tax rate of over seventy four percent you had thirty five percent to twenty five percent unionization were down down to in the private sector were not a seven percent the private sector our top tax rate while mitt romney's top tax rate is fifteen percent working people top tax rate of thirty five percent you know is that how we're going to get back to it you know because you also had a situation where and you could come out of the ninety's and having a high school degree walk into a factory and get a job they're able to put your family you know food on the table get the retired always you going to bring back our trade laws we're never going to have an economy like that again you're not going to be because there's never going to be a situation well maybe not why didn't work in germany have it in china can have it in japan can have it in korea south korea can have it we can't have it they all they all have they use vaticanus r vers tariffs we don't when you're talking about economic expansion period those economies didn't exist they were not the situation

are today the competitors were not there that we are today that we did we just can't bring those jobs back well you know personally i think we can't but clearly had i don't hear any and i don't i don't hear the president about this either during his state of the union speech president obama put forward a plan to further help those who've been able to stay current on their mortgage payments this plan would allow borrowers to you know. their mortgages at lower rates and he's going to pay for this with a tax a small tax big banks banks with more than thirty million dollars thirty billion dollars in assets over congressional republicans are willing to even consider this that they say it's dead on arrival ironically the top ten congressional districts that would benefit from obama's plan are all occupied by republicans in the house of representatives. are lawmakers supposed to be representing their districts and not wall street these are the people who are saying no we're not going to do this. well i think that you know what you're really talking about here first of all this is preposterous on the face of it we're going to go ahead it

f.d.r. did it and it got us out of a great depression it got homeowners homeowners you know their mortgages were failing he created the federal housing administration and it works for decades like fannie and freddie and fannie mae fannie mae was working just fine thank you very much and to lyndon johnson privatized in one hundred sixty eight to take off the books part of the cost of the vietnam war it was insane it should never been privatized all i'm saying is this is that you can't tax the banks with something that they're not responsible for people sign these contracts they were knew what they were getting into and if you really want to study and you know they didn't have all that they should have been buying a house quite frankly people that are more responsible for this are not the banks it's the first of all the you know the mortgages the majority these actually weren't first mortgages they were they were refight and people were being encouraged to refight what do you remember this time i mean there were there were seven hours going on you can get rich you know just buy a house and flip it housing prices are going to go up forever they you know greenspan was pumping over the money like there is no doubt america wasn't one of

those commercials dietetic it was you know but it was all these it was exactly all these companies that were then selling their mortgages to the big banks that were then truncheon them and then selling them a c.d.o. i think the reality is you can't solve the problem by taxing the banks because the fat point the banks are going to say what you know how do they make up that difference do they have to like let go of more people do we end up with more unemployed people you know how do you solve the problem goes if you raise fees on the rest the populations everyone else has to pay for their troubles i mean that's not fair either i don't think you fix the problem by raising taxes in this situation and also you're not really punishing the people who are responsible and the fact the matter is that you have a you know it has nothing do with politics i mean there were a lot of people involved this was their hands on the situation or both of the strongly of the opinion that the people responsible for the crash were the stupid homeowners who never should have one of those right now when it's not all over i mean the reality is i know people who are very strong. crowds who worked in that industry made tons of money on it personally and completely benefited from that

kind of behavior what you're saying is terrible behavior and erroneous i mean the reality is that a lot of people point this out is that many of us we all took a part in is the society you're not going to fix that by going back and doing more bad behavior with these mortgages that may for example in the minority communities among african-americans half of all the people who got exploding mortgages qualified for normal mortgages which were less profitable for the banks and were never told that they qualified when there isn't you know you've got hundreds of thousands of robo signing foreclosures there's been massive fraud listen to it as your mind is right out of these awareness or under great pressure though to extend these loans to under-served communities and that was done as in the sense that is not bill clinton made a point of extending that push that it was george bush in two thousand and four gave a speech about how we should be doing that it was it wasn't job was really bill clinton there was no pressure there was there was no law there is no political pressure and in fact if anything the opposite they had banking standards in george bush when eliot spitzer tried to enforce those banking standards used that eighteen sixty

five law to stop him and say sorry you in new york can't enforce your banking standards because you know we want our banks to make profits i seem to recall they were an awful lot of civil justice organizations out there processing these banks in the ninety's because they weren't extending loans to impoverished communities and that's just a fact and so so that's what i'm sure that's pressure ok the fact of the matter is is the way to turn this around is for people in america to get back to work it's not to tax the banks and make sure the people that are paying the mortgages have jobs and that's the present responsibility is failing well you know i'm with you the people need jobs the you know franklin roosevelt so the very best welfare program in the world is a job so how do we get jobs to people that were. i think first of all the president has to relax on some of his regulatory policies i think he's regulations or stopping jobs it seems to me like if you're going to say ok you're going to have to put a scrubber on that smokestack so it doesn't cause cancer on the street that somebody's going to design it install it. seems like that's going to get out there is all about this sort of liberal promise that by a career that you can use government to create jobs you can use government to

create various industries in it that somehow gives everyone a job in the problem is that whenever that happens there's always somebody else that's out of a job as a result or there's always. the right guy got it right we got to take a break here we'll be right back after the break mitt romney doesn't like poor people what else is new more on that and other issues in the rest of tonight's lone liberal although. the official. pulled from the.

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welcome back to the low to liberal rumble on the panel tonight deborah kay corey conservative blogger and freelance journalist and jack do seke a republican strategist we're having a good time. democrats in the senate are going to vote on president obama's buffett rule where he says if you make more a million bucks a year than on the million and one dollar and i buy the you make after that you should at least pay thirty percent tax now the average working americans if they

made a million bucks in payroll they would pay thirty five or thirty six percent tax so this isn't even quite the buffett rule that everybody should pay what buffett's secretary makes or pays but it's close and according the tax foundation it would produce an additional thirty six point seven billion dollars a year in revenue which ain't chickenfeed it's not going to solve the deficit problem but it's its but it's really more of an issue of fairness shouldn't people like mitt romney and paris hilton who basically make their living sitting on their butts around the pool waiting for the dividend checks to arrive pay the same tax rate as people as their as their pool cleaners and is the guy digging up the street out in front of a cop who's protecting. i think a lot of that question to be answered the fact that we have a very complicated tax code when capital gains taxes off of my own it's been invested as opposed to an income tax we already know that mitt romney's tax base often just capital gains was lower than what we now know regular income tax surely we know what's right about that. why should he why should he have lowered tax rates by the tax code yeah ok that would be my opinion i'm for that but it but you know

ronald reagan came out in nineteen eighty six and so why should why should a bus driver pay ten percent of his salary in a millionaire pays nothing jack if fact reagan said that's nuts that was his exact phrase he equalized the capital gains with with the ordinary income rate while great million in one year not pay anything they do pay they pay a significant amount and back to the capital gains point not only someone that was invested its money was already taxed before you invest in it they've already paid tax on surviving double tax on income that's derived so the money that you're getting from g.e. in dividends right was already taxed except that last year g.e. distributed twenty nine million dollars twenty nine billion dollars dividends to be one thousand billion dollars in dividends and they paid no tax you're talking about a corporation that's not the same as this issue right here what's. all right then you know somebody runs a gas station they're paying their employees thirty thousand bucks a year and where do they get their money from you and me when we buy get.