companies every year invest in the networks and comparable. solutions about three hundred building rubles so with so it's just just slightly. under five percent your camera deal can be can be comparable bearable with the so-called national projects i mean you have to up the absolutely if you take the scale of the project and in the time frame work. it's going to be a record for sure that's a very you believe that one day the voting itself i mean the election will maybe organize through the internet without any posting technically technically it is possible even now but there has to be. a certain degree of the public trust and confidence in how those systems today any work if we look at the if i'm sorry if we look at the rallies that are going on in moscow yes today that

the legally public seem to have more trust in the voting in the internet than in the voting on the problem station so what you say is that if you're the government which voting to the internet. that there will be less trust in that. you have to be able to really worry we have all we have to to you know to have some results of social votes and polls to see which part of society and how this problem. here there were between twelve. thirty and fifty thousand people here we've got about one hundred million voters in russia so probably those are the people that were taking part and those. many of them even went vote because the you know. political or creative class they've done often goes to the voting so yes well just to be that

if we if we start thinking big brother the meaning of all those so i think that like internet voting gives the government even more possibilities to control the society that then this simple probably station thing i think isn't my game if you're one of the considerations of those who are against the system so i believe it's more a psychological than fact technological question in two thousand and eleven the number of internet users in russia has reached seventy million is it continue to to grow and what's the rate because because this is a lot this is a lot and we are the biggest market in europe and. bigger starting with two thousand and eleven it is continuing to grow and. while we will be for the women it is the number of russian citizens that this number so we consider this is

a very positive way and but it puts enormous pressure on the government and our minister because everybody is not such a society was just some internet. world seventy million is about a hundred it is about half and half of the population proper roughly well actually every every computer is usually used by a husband and wife a man and wife no no no this is not just just the computer people of the people so me my wife and my son who is the same computer i three years. so so so so in other in the other fifty percent increase we can have at least have ok now you mentioned the soap and there people there's another act in america that's being considered now your attitude your personal attitude to these acts towards go in the states the protest and did you hear any maybe talk within the russian government

there about that what's the attitude of the kremlin towards similar acts having similar acts in russia. or we're not considering to take similar acts and. the problem with the sopa and the people is not just. a problem of the united states and their intellectual property. it's the way how we are going to resolve different problems concerning the internet on the world scale what russia proposed there will be an international mechanism allowing. those kind of problems any kind whether it be intellectual property online piracy cyber crime or children proper not graffiti so the the internet is something that is global the doesn't know any limits and any borders and if one state

pretense to resolve all the problems. for his own good but disregarding the problems of other states and not cooperating with other states that's not quite right that's why we suggest the first we. know this is american idea might not work well it might work but it will mean the collapse of the internet. as we know it today because it's international with the sopa. practically and in internet participants from service provider to those search engine to an advertiser will be required to cease providing services with any any internet agent accused of piracy and it doesn't matter was whether it is in the united states or outside it you mentioning the pirates the piracy and

we know that there is like the pirates party that has been organized in russia and they and their sea seeking official registration and there their leader has been in the studio a couple of days ago and he said that you personally you visited one of their gatherings well and officially but you were present at one of their at one of their meetings well mr shulman he said the following the russian government is lacking ideas and is trying to find them from external sources like the pirate party so. your visit to the party part of the meeting is it because you really want new ideas is it because you consider to be adequate people and do you want to cooperate with they when there are people like the pirate party. because just visited on the subject. of books to bookstore just looking for some books.

by the way it was. julian it's a very known novel of go to rebel but it was edited ten years ago and it was the only store where to. get out of the atlanta show. well not not quite but this one a special no. and there was a gathering of some young people and they recognized me and told me we're going to discuss electronic democracy in russia we've got a working group you know we're going to workshop. could you well chat with us for half an hour while and turned out that there were not just people from the working group but there were the represent of the part of part so with was not with the powers that they when they were there for a book but i had those thirty minutes just stayed with them and discussed a couple of questions and i wasn't prepared prepared to to the unsuspicious if the questions because i didn't see their papers in eight years it was just

a general change of minds but. as far as the intellectual property within the us. is concerned we do not like ideas we've got quite specific ideas that were presented by even by our president during the last g eight and g twenty summits. that were not accepted at the summits but i believe they're still being considered so we do have ideas but we take into account the fact that all of the europe part is you know appear and the even even if if it consists by now i believe of some dozens of young people but there is a certain demands. certain to move toward a model that will be different of the model how the intellectual property was ruled in the nineteenth or the twentieth century because the people are not satisfied with the requirements of the intellectual property rights holders they want that

their demands are considered as well so this is a certain mixture. brit. golden solution that lies between between the right holders and the pirates and so far their ideas might be of help as well thank you thank you thank you for just a reminder that you can shove the minister of communications of russia with my guest on the show and that's it for now i'm hala. so then they are to take you.

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promises to honor past deals are not to stop selling arms to syria saying weapons will still reach opposition groups from abroad despite any of. the german leader takes her. as she tries to convince china not to write off the e.u. while also urging beijing support for the oil embargo against iran. and egypt mourns over seventy football fans killed in post match clashes and investigation into the tragedy is underway amid claims of police simply standing by.

live from moscow this is our role received a welcome to the program russia's defense ministry has reiterated moscow is committed to agreements made with international partners and will continue selling arms to syria russia is against a weapons and saying it would not prevent the arming of opposition groups from abroad although progress has been made at the u.n. on a syria resolution moscow is adamant it will block any draft which doesn't rule out military intervention. reports. russia says it won't accept even a hint of an embargo on arms embargo when it comes to syria and its reasoning for this is pretty simple it says firstly that the weapons and arms are that russia provides to syria cannot be used against demonstrators thus don't influence

anything that goes on inside syria and when it comes to this conflict now secondly russia says that it is only following its legal obligations it's following its international contracts with syria and it's not breaching any international laws at all and most importantly it says that the lessons of libya need to be large because when an arms embargo was put in place on libya what ended up happening was government forces were embargoed but the opposition groups continued to receive openly arms from abroad and this is something that they don't want to see in syria and russia says it's time for the west to stop pretending like armed groups don't exist over there. it would seem logical if there's a conflict let's not supply arms because we saw what happened in libya in an imperfect world this would have meant the following no weapons were the government the opposition point is could get them from anywhere that's what that would mean especially now our security council colleagues refuse even to admit the prisons of groups they will not condemn them or acknowledged being supplied with weapons then

we say. contracts and longstanding relations with syria but they will start supplying even more to opposition groups just like they did in libya the arab and western backed regime change resolution calls for the. syrian president to step down if this does not happen within fifteen days further measures could take place and russia says no thanks we've seen this similar scenario in libya and this particular case moscow says what's important is for talks for syria to exercise its sovereignty for the opposition and the government to sit down together moscow has offered russia as the center stage for these negotiations but it's important to say that russia still. believes that a consensus can be found within the united nations security council it says that broad resolutions that are dangerous should not be put on the table that can split the council and really aggravate any sort of conflict and it continues to call for the important arab observers to remain working on the ground and he's an

associate you're going to reporting right there from new york while moscow has also the arab league observers a recent report which accuses both sides of the conflict to be also taken into account when the u.n. it debates a resolution on syria let's get more on this now from dr marcos up at the top of all of the editor of the politics first magazine live in london thank you for coming on artie's of the arab league missions report acknowledges the existence of groups involved in the killings quote the observer mission witnessed acts of violence being committed against government forces and civilians that resulted in several deaths and injuries so why have the western powers and some arab states actually ignored those findings do you think. well let's be very clear western interest in the conflict in syria isn't guided by wanting to advance human rights democracy or the rule of law in the region if it was about that then we'd probably

see an american naval flotilla off the coast of saudi arabia which happens to be one of the most repressive and brutal regimes in the world but it follows a pro western foreign policy the reason why western governments are we can all in the findings of the report is because it doesn't fit into their agenda syria is a huge player in the in middle eastern politics and the west principally america has a very problematic relationship with syria so it would be very much within america's interests for the syrian government for president assad to fall from power and for a more accommodating a more sort of pro western government to come to parallel should that happen that would give. almost full dominance politically in the middle east and it's what i would describe as a jewish teaching chess cooled because also as well american policy makers plan is

a very very clear that russia has a lot of influence in syria it has a naval and naval base at the port of tartus which has been there since the early one nine hundred seventy s. if president assad was to fall from power and a new progress in government to replace him that would force russia out of the middle east and russian russian foreign policy would take a huge blow should president assad fall from power i mean american government is very very conscious about that so in answer to your question it's not within the interests of western powers principally america to take into account what has been actually said in the in the reports of the arab league so you can judge here there are multiple geo political strategies that play here that really need to be emphasized but if i may the findings. in this new arab league mission report also suggests the media has exaggerated the number of those killed in the country and the nature of the incidents is there something sinister in the reporting or is it

just a lack of access for journalists do you think. western media is as powerful as any bomb in the nato military arsenal i mean i interviewed the former bosnian serb leader radovan carrot last year and he told me that western media did more damage to the. nato bombs and of course we can see that western media has been distorting things that have been that it that have happened in syria and this has been shown up in the reports of the arab league but i would like to make the point that this is not the this is not the first time that western media has demonstrated just how powerful it is first made its debut in the u.k. slow of civil wars where the conflicts in croatia bosnia kosovo for trade is a conflict between good and evil the good be in the bosnian muslims the croats the cause for the albanians the pads. in the serbs. lethal

weapon in the west sas and all western media and it should never never be underestimated just how damaging it can be and it works together in the interests of western foreign policy where as you suggest or certainly in working with the western media many western states are claiming that assad's days are numbered calling him a dictator and many other names at the same time did you think the overthrow of the regime is just a short matter of time now. oh i die i mean who knows it's very difficult to predict the future but i mean the international community its main focus should be on bringing pace and stability to syria civilians are dying every day not just because they are being called up in the fighting between government forces and armed militants and terrorists as well the report by the arab league clearly stated that he must crimes have been committed by by the op by the people in syria that

are opposed to president assad so instead of western governments the british and the american and the french ones talking about president assad's days being numbered they should be more responsible in their outlook and the main focus should be on bringing peace to syria. dr marcus papadopoulos the editor of the politics of first magazine live in london thanks for coming on r t today thank you. well if syria is also on the german chancellor's agenda during her trip to china and tries to persuade beijing to support the new resolution at the u.n. merkel is also calling on beijing the biggest buyer of iranian oil not to buy more after an e.u. embargo and on top of all of that she wants to offer reassurance to the eurozone is still safe for investors let's not hold a crystal horse to all the government consultant and a political analyst joining us now live on r.t. from potsdam good to see you so china has been strongly opposing for an interview

in syria is there any chance that merkel will change beijing's mind on the issue here. no flatly no and i will tell you she is not also not trying very hard that is clear spiegel wrote this morning that she is heading a strong delegation and since germany is known all over the globe to usually travel in very strong delegations this must be x x large and that means her main focus in this trip is german economy and she's wise to do that she will even not you know lobby very much for chinese investment into europe because she knows in a heart of hearts that this is truly a bad investment as you say that angle of merkel and in beijing is trumping up the german economy here i mean it doesn't make sense when you think about how much of the brunt of the eurozone debt that germany is shouldering if we made a turn our attention out of out of iran what do you think but can offer to china to

get it to buy less or at least not by more oil from iran or something that could ultimately damage beijing's economy beijing is such a vast consumer of iranian oil. you know if you if you want to i would chancellor on a triple begging to if she wants money for europe she wants you know a support from beijing for the new un resolution which beijing is not going to give and she also wants beijing to cut off its own oil supply which beijing is why it's not going to do and of course beijing has also to take into consideration that india its competition in the region is standing straight with iran and buying ever more rain in oil so i don't think she has any chance of you know talking china out of buying iranian oil or that were not have been again i would say she will not put any much focus on it she will she will say that then she will look to the ceiling and then she was smile and say let's talk business now. or again not so

much emphasis on syria or iran as angle a moment in beijing the chinese prime minister says that his country is considering helping the eurozone as you mentioned moments ago merkel's visit there are three pronged begging as you mentioned moments ago that she needs help but are we seeing a breakthrough at least on the economic issue of china investing in the faltering euro zone. ok so china will you know use its money which is hard earned very wisely and that means they will have single investments not so much in the euro zone maybe a little bit out of politeness but in any case more into you know directly into companies things that strategically on the chinese agenda have closely watched the last buyouts china has taken in germany and i was a little surprised how deep they were allowed to dig into our

technology and buy things that america would certainly have refused and the chinese buy is and these this is the situation right now we are writing in the west on a very thin razor blade in this regard because we are not investing enough into our education we are selling our technologies to china and that means china is going to you know close the technological gap very quickly to the western world right now in this bad economic and financial situation i wish we had more time for this crystal horst always a pleasure our government consultant political analyst our thanks for joining us on our thanks a. well i still to come your way here on the program whistle blowers final appeal. is the last chance to do you know songs to the british judge and

if you like extradition to sweden on allegations of sexual assault more coming up to me in london in just a minute. africa was a country on the brink on the brink of complete meltdown and chaos find out why the catalyst comments of u.s. politicians could be costing america's credibility on the international. egypt is mourning the victims of violence following a football game which sold more than seventy people killed in post match fighting the fans are rushed onto the pitch in the seaside city of port after the home team beat egypt's top club setting off clashes and a large stampede protests in cairo now over the police handling of the trouble foreign affairs analyst richard de j hi darian i think it's just an indication of the instability in post revolution egypt. the violence raises a lot of questions was also for it's the overall security of the people in syria

appears the first particularly. the sparkler or the security forces and the police there's some in there for that reason this so far as sort of the. they felt that the police did not good enough in order to avoid the violence from yesterday and the fact that there were good and knives we've seen this is the norm since a lot of the border security lapses more than just sits on the board how is that overall it's this sort. of war resume in some ways the violence that the underlies the justified position of emergency laws or the come to the sort of the security level that is really with the current. and a more analysis on the situation in egypt are always available on our website are two dot com just a click away for you online at the website right now for example frozen water pipes inside japan's crippled fukushima nuclear plant despite warnings made months ago

that exactly this could happen. and praised as spontaneous protests that started on twitter the arab revolutions may actually have taken a decade of expertise and millions of dollars to fund that story along with many many others available on our website r.t. dot com. it's the last chance for the world's top whistleblower at the u.k.'s supreme court julian sanchez appealing against extradition to sweden where he's wanted on allegations of sexual assault denies the accusations and insists the case against him is politically motivated laura smith is outside the supreme court in london. we're not expecting to hear to station today we have heard already from documents released by the supreme court that although this is day two of the two day hearing beginning to be reserving judgment for what they term

a number of weeks if stories like that could mean between two and eight weeks so we will have to wait to find out the birthday this is day two as i say in julian assange to write this morning about how the full proceedings started again looking fairly relaxed just seated yesterday saying hello to feed his supporters standing behind me to have braved the at today's subzero temperatures and on to turn out to show him that they are still. rooting for him yet today we heard his legal team giving their side of the story this case here at the supreme court is no surprise out whether or not those is guilty of the allegations that have been made against him it's about the nuts and bolts of the legal system and specifically about whether the european arrest warrant under which his extradition has been requested is valid the his team say that the swedish prosecutor who issued the warrant doesn't have the all thirty thousand do you doubt it.