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russia and china veto of u.n. security council resolution on syria in a vote in new york. moscow says the document does not reflect the situation in syria and in balance signal to both sides all the details just ahead. more than two hundred thousand people brave russia's bitter subzero cold to ensure their views on national politics are heard. we seem people out on the streets demanding free elections in support of the code russian government join me for more than a few moments. and fighting between police and protesters continues in egypt with twelve people killed and hundreds more injured in the latest practice round.
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midnight in moscow i mad très a good to have you with us here at r.t. our top story russia and china have veto the latest u.n. security council resolution on syria moscow says that's because the draft didn't reflect the real situation in damascus and was sending unbalanced signals to all sides in the conflict. has the latest from the u.n. in new york. in a matter of just five minutes after the meeting began russia and china both wielded their veto powers not supporting this draft resolution that was written by. european countries while the draft resolution was supported by thirteen members of the security council russia was asking. according to russian foreign minister
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sergei lavrov. not excessive and. said that russia was urging the west to accommodate concerns to reach a compromise on this draft resolution china during the meeting that supported russia's amendments and said for the council to up. there was a divide it did not help. or already of the security council russian foreign minister sergei lavrov said. using the security council as a tool to intervene on a country experiencing an internal conflict he believes that could create chaos in international affairs so as we see there was. on this resolution it did not go through and it's because russia believes that the draft resolution was presented it had a lot of balances in it when it comes to the current circumstance in syria russian
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envoy to the united nations vitaly churkin did go into detail about those imbalances but about the security council has reached its conclusion draft resolution. the real situation in syria and. the co-sponsors of the resolution. taking into account the syrian opposition distance itself from extremist groups committing violence. to use their influence to prevent such. taken into account that along with was drawing the syrian forces from the cities. to attack. state institutions. nor has the being support for affording more flexibility to get into. states to increase the chances of a successful political process the russian delegation was forced to draft resolution
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we seriously regret this outcome. visit damascus on tuesday to meet with syrian president bashar al assad this is a move. to hopefully reach some type of peaceful approach to the conflict still in syria the arab league is also addressed the security council at the stakeout saying that they are extremely disappointed. but they will continue trying to work with the security council with the united nations to try to reach some type of consensus now u.s. president barack obama did also issue a statement of his own before the. united states is on the side of the syrian people that are opposing the syrian president and his government and he said quote the assad regime the time has come for the assad regime. clearly
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the united states is pushing for regime change this is a sticking point this is something that russia does not support so we'll see what takes place in the days and weeks to come but as of now the draft text proposed by the europeans by the arab league vetoed by russia and china. in the security council meeting comes amid reports of a new crackdown in the syrian city of homes with hundreds reportedly killed inside on the situation in syria i'm joined by. news editor of antiwar dot com joining us from michigan so activists in syria claim this reason is the worst since anti-government protests started i want to ask this is the killings were carried out by terrorists to influence the u.n. decision what do you think it is well it's hard to stand and i think this goes back to a longstanding problem in syria which is that they don't allow any foreign media into the country so there really is no way to refute claims by either the regime for the opposition so we don't really know for sure what's going on there now the new
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resolution what do you think is the next step then for syria well it's hard to say but i think the resolution itself was probably not going to accomplish much anyway it seems to have been at best an effort to. show which kickstart some international backing for intervention in the country which obviously russia and china were not going it support i don't think it was ever going to get anywhere and it seems like with the arab league having withdrawn all their monitors from the country in favor of this resolution they sort of. shot themselves in the foot here and don't have a lot of options last and u.s. president barack obama has called for assad to step down immediately with increasingly tough international rhetoric against assad and his regime if it isn't here in councils getting anywhere near a peaceful solution to the conflict you know and i don't expect them to either it seems to me that what the security council is is liable to do with syria is to
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continue arguing the point to continue putting forth resolutions that have no chance of passing and giving long winded speeches that don't really get anywhere. and we heard the same calls from washington is allies for a would be is colonel gadhafi to step down do you think i was sitting assad would put in the end to the crisis or what might follow after that well if it might well put an end to this crisis and created no there potentially worse crisis as it did in libya but i think what happened in libya has been a real wake up call for the international community that these resolutions can lead to wars and and that they're not going to be so easy to pass in the future. and russia says the current draft included measures against president assad's government but not against the armed opposition groups why do you think some western countries fell short of condemning both sides in the conflict well i think . mostly it's because there hasn't been
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a lot of awareness or even recognition from the west that these opposition groups are doing anything like that what we see mostly in the western press has has been reports directly from opposition groups which again goes back to the fact that there's no media on the ground inside syria and they opposition groups are obviously focusing entirely on. one half of the civil war that's seems to be in the offing in syria and ignoring the other side virtually completely to think what they have now is a civil war i mean do you think violence instigated by opposition can equate to violence that's instituted by the state. well i don't think that the opposition is that strong yet to the point where they realistically can but they certainly seem to be able to in some parts of the country so i would say it's certainly not nationwide civil war but there certainly are some some small local areas where it probably is a civil war and moscow says western states
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a fall into the habit of using the u.n. as a tool to bring about regime change you think that's a fair accusation. oh absolutely it's seems like that's the only point to any of these resolutions i don't think yes if there was no interest in bringing about regime change that we'd have had a resolution at all. all right jason dedes editor of antiwar dot com thanks for your perspective thank you. more than two hundred thousand people have come out into the streets of russia on saturday for a day of protests the largest seen in the capital so far one group calling for a fair elections the others rallied in support of the current leadership artie's correspondent peter all over reports on both. well saturday was a day of demonstrations here in the russian capital we saw a march and a rally by opposition supporters a large group of them meeting in the center of the city and marching here to block my a square with blood money has really become the central focus point for opposition
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protesters here in moscow this is the second time that opposition protesters have taken to pull last night a square far fewer the this time than last but of course the the weather a big deciding factor in cripplingly mo temperatures here in the russian capital in fact the organizers of the protest here sure. the events that were going to be happening just to make it more comfortable for people who had come out in the cold minus twenty times on saturday here in moscow. so they came out to to voice their opinions you know better than if you were first in here because i'm tired of the government which doesn't do away from suits my needs and wants this to carry on for you. if you. change their elections and normal life you. might go on to come here and you see it now talk about some of those groups that we've seen come here they really come from all across the russian
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political straw we've seen far right groups far left groups and everybody in between. all coming out coming here to pull off a square to demonstrate we didn't hear from. the presidential candidate the independent presidential candidate he's drawing a lot of support from some of the groups that will have come here to protest he said he would attend but he wouldn't give a speech this wasn't the only demonstration there was taking place on saturday there's also being gatherings of people who are in favor of the government pro-government forces and. who come paining saying that they want a resolution in russia using the example of the orange revolution in ukraine in the playoffs which country founded. saying that they don't need. to see the revolution. it's times of instability and they didn't want to shit the dog days
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old the ninety's now the good news for everybody. peacefully everything is being carried off today the opposition. protests going off. of you with. one of the putin rallies we did see the leader of that rally taken into custody by police because. it was. people the amount of people. we saw a lot of police in cities they did say protesters must remain within the law they did do everything going on very peacefully as stuff today becomes the day of demonstrations where the presidential election. opposition is demanding a fair vote martin mccauley an expert from the university of london thinks the process must be transparent. result of the election of course we're very very
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important because what these demonstrators want is if you like a clean election an absence of fraud and so on and it's up to the authorities to ensure that there would be cameras there and so on and therefore it's probably will be a fairy election but what is important is that it seem to be fair and that these people have no cause to claim that the election on the fourth of march whether president vladimir putin wins the first round of that has to be seen to be fair and to be clean otherwise they'll be tremendous protests on the left of the box the opposition will not come together they don't want to compromise they don't want to . arrive at a single candidate the only way they're going to defeat the liberal put it on the fourth of march just have a single candidate who is accepted by the whole opposition and there's no likelihood is this it looks ready as if it cannot easily garner the calmness candidate will come up second as he always does and this is results in a cover up
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a third or fourth and so on i mean her prokhorov would bring up the rest because he is there really only to appeal to the middle class urban voters. russia expert martin mccauley sharing his view on today's rallies. fresh clashes outside egypt's interior ministry as police again fire volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets at crowds who threw rocks in response at least twelve people were killed more than two thousand injured in protests across the country in response to the protests presidential elections could be moved forward from june people have been venting their anger at police for three days for failing to prevent the wednesday's violence in which port in port sayed in which seventy four people died demonstrators are demanding the military council step down for more a perspective on all this i'm joined by omar national from the institute of arab and islamic studies at the university of exit or so the president and the entire board of egypt's football association were fired after the on pitch tragedy but
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protests over the deaths are still rising people are rallying right across the country and they think there are more than these clashes more to these clashes than just a regular football rivalry what do you think. i think most of the protesters do not blame the federation the soccer federation or the football federation they blame the security services some of them believe that that was that avenge attack against the. egypt needed because of its role during that evolution in generators held in eleven fans over the ultra of this day on the ultras many of them were quite organized and they went in protected the square on the twenty eighth of january on the second of february of last year and most of the victims the overwhelming majority are from and the and many believe because of the security arrangements because of the targeting of all those fans and because of the presence
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of arms which has never been dead in egypt. we had like many football fights between teams but no one has died the worst thing that would have happened is probably bruises and light injuries but this time that said this is a massacre by any scale seventy seven people were killed never before happened in the history of rejection socket and that's why they believe the security services is quite complacent and they are protesting in front of its ministry in the middle of title right now the protesters are angry at the military council for directly reforms after mubarak was ousted from power what's your view of the leadership so far can you be the question again because i can hear you sure no problem what's your view of the leadership so far in the country. i think the supreme council of the armed forces has mismanaged the transitional process to a large degree the expectations on the egyptian street it would rising because they
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thought that they would be transferred all power from that it would be to civilian elected civilian in six months and therefore once you have elected civilian rule they investments will come to life the economic life will be back to normal there would be a formal restructuring of the security services that acted in a very aggressive and brutal way and cut off to a during the mubarak era and all these to expectations so they the economy to enhance a better economy the dignity the freedom the bread the slogans of that evolution were not really accomplished by a year off the bit of aleutian and many on the streets of egypt. the transitional their leaders of the transitional period which is the supreme council of the armed forces that's why that is at the protest last friday and on the anniversary of that evolution was wanted a president and now an elected president now so that they can hold him accountable if you fail to the store back the egyptian economy and if you feed into the form of
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the security services now do you think the supporters of this cairo based football club have enough numbers on their side have enough motivation to really start to a new uprising like they say they're threatening to. i don't think they have the numbers but definitely they have a lot of the sympathy if they coordinated with other fans from other clubs like there's a magic club and like a club and others and remember seventy seven is a huge number and many people on the streets have much sympathy with them at the moment. statement is that we're not all we're not organizing anything violent in front of the t.v. to ministry but obviously that he'd your ship is something in the grassroots and in the mid ranks or something you can get an update on that on some time so that there is this is they are young and very angry and they feel right for the soul of a they feel victimized at the moment whether they can initiate another evolution i
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doubt it but this week with enormous pressures on both the parliament to act to hold the government accountable and would put also a lot of pressure on the supreme council of the armed forces telling him that he has to enhance and upgrade his benevolence managing the transition process probably leave the country to the elected civilian there's at the moment but of course there will be a package that will be negotiated with them to be followed protesters are demanding that the military council step down do you think a civilian leadership is likely to come to power soon in egypt. civilian leadership i think the main difference is that the civilian leadership would be whole held accountable so if it promised the people to deliver it on the economy on the security and on the. welfare in general and could not deliver it in four years that people will be able to hold it accountable and vote for someone
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else and they because of the nature of the transition process they have to be they have to be transparent and they have to be very sensitive to the street for right now if people don't feel that the that they can remove the supreme council of the armed forces by votes it's there because it's the media that establishment it's the most organized that it is armed. for they want a it acted civilian leadership to take over the country are i don't want to share from the institute of arab and islamic studies at exit or university thank you. thank you. r.t. dot com has plenty of other stories online for you right now including this the notorious hacktivists anonymous find out what the f.b.i. really thinks some of them and get their own back by leaking the audio recording online listen in to what was said at our web site. and to russia is over the moon is it unveils its space ambitions all of us and plenty more a click away at our t. dot com. iran says it will definitely stop oil exports to
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certain european countries the islamic states oil minister says they have yet to make a decision on cutting supplies to other e.u. states if terrans response to the use oil embargo that was set to come into force in july chris bambery a political analyst who's in london says all says there's also plenty of other reasons for tehran to try to retaliate. but i think the listening to what's the rhetoric from london paris and washington and understands that that rhetoric is being hyped up all the time that we've had claims this week the u.s. defense secretary that there was going to rain in terror attacks inside the united states although he also said there was no evidence they could use the evidence for that to date elsewhere in tel aviv i read a supposedly respectful commentators saying the arenas had missiles which he could . it could hit the united states of america that claim is just simply the posters but we are seeing
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a ratcheting up of the right and tyranny and rhetoric in the way at the same time there is must be very very nervous about the american build up inside the gulf inside the persian gulf if you look at the map of iraq and it is surrounded by american military bases incidentally bases which are also aimed at russia and china so i think in some ways the pressure must be all inside the ryan to think we should be we going to retaliate in forced campaigners for online freedom our own force in sweden to protest against a new copyright treaty signed by governments across europe the anti-counterfeiting trade agreement has yet to be ratified by the european parliament and that's what activists want to prevent the saying the new law would in danger free speech and net privacy artie's tom barton has more from stockholm. this is the frontline in the most modern of political battles over internet freedom these crowds have gathered in central stockholm in sweden feel riginal home of the pirate parties
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that have sprung up all over europe and beyond here to protest against the anti counterfeiting trade agreements it all revolves around unseen piracy laws that are trying to be pushed through in many countries this agreement tries to standardize the enforcement of those laws in the e.u. and in america and further around the world these people say it's not an innocent agreement it's not simple it's assault on the internet freedom and it's a way for governments to monitor them and to stop them from having a free exchange of information on the internet and we heard earlier from people on both sides of the argument about how different views are here on this issue if you say world everything should be free well perhaps no one will write any books or produce music or films etc or anyway it would disappear but the remarks miss because it's not often. the next generation has grown up with the ability to say
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anything to anybody else on the planet to that idea of battle it out for themselves to have a freedom of speech never before imagined we don't need to ask anybody's permission to present new ideas and. all of a sudden corporations want to take that away because it inconveniences them and millions of young people are rising up in. this excess of the growth of pirate parties both here in sweden and elsewhere around the world is evidence of how high the status of internet freedom complainers has risen on the signing of the act of agreement a few days ago huge protests broke out in poland they were so out of it and so angry that the government there has suspended its back to agreement that they want the same to happen here although the debates are going to go on until june when the e.u. parliament votes on this internet freedom complaint as urging people to get their
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view across before that vote this debate is going to go on it's not finished yet and it seems it's going to be anything but calm. tonight as some other stories making headlines across the globe police in washington d.c. have clamped down on the occupy protesters camp in downtown arresting at least four people several times and personal belongings were cleared away in the raid which activists said was an eviction the bashing tim camp is one of the last remaining offshoots of the movement that started in new york last september against corporate greed. more than three thousand afghans were killed in two thousand and eleven making last year the deadliest on record for the country's civilians according to a un report most of the casualties caused by militants with fourteen per cent by international and local troops meanwhile nato is preparing to pull out by two thousand and fourteen leaving afghan security forces to take charge of fighting the insurgency. europe's week long cold snap has now claimed two hundred twenty lives
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as a nation struggled with record low temperatures and ukraine being hit the hardest with more than one hundred dead as temperatures plummet to minus thirty celsius most of the victims were homeless people heavy snowfalls also caused widespread transport chaos and power outage. i'll be back with an update of our top stories after a short break stay with us.
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