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competition now this brings us to another problem corruption and the prime minister is proposing to increase the salaries of civil servants in exchange for their complete transparency and put together a list of all the most corrupt jobs and it's in the ninety's many people want to be called all the guards you know they're a need for civil servants because these positions are all to you as possibilities to make easy money and according to the prime minister. it's time for that to change as well. well our website on our website i should say the kremlin wants a more competitive approach to politics in russia president medvedev says russia needs a strong liberal party to break the mold of current politics more highlights of what you have to say are waiting for you at r t v dot com. also meet the man behind the mask he's moscow street artist whose detailed artwork and secret identity have earned him the nickname the russian banks the after the british artist. left three thousand meters beneath the sea russian scientists make
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a unique discovery find out exactly what they found and its impact on the future of science and head to our t.v. dot com. but the greek prime minister is struggling to get a coalition party leaders to buy into harsh new international bailout terms the talks have now been postponed until tuesday that's as pressure mounts on athens with the european commission spokesman saying the deadline has already passed the country must now accept even more painful cuts if it's to get a one hundred thirty billion euro second lifeline from international creditors and if the deal falls through greece is expected to default by the end of march fessor of constitutional or long tours de gallo it's believed the greek politicians have.
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already given if you. block. me even though it's bad and the vast majority of society enormously it can always be done more through policies that have absolutely no basis on logic but have a very sound basis. the kind of politics which i'm afraid the european union has descended towards afraid is happening at the moment is a shadow play. we have the green. party leaders and the prime minister supposedly negotiating very harshly. in my estimation i hope i'm wrong but that of the i am this is just tense the decisions are made to the deedes already in place all we have these three political leaders who are trying to find
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a way of presenting what is in and out of the illogical package to the greek people . that was in fact economics professor younis i should say from athens there let's take a look at some other stories from around the world this hour for you from a near as prime minister has resigned and dissolve the government saying he wants to preserve social and economic stability in the country this follows weeks of protest over austerity measures introduced in two thousand and ten to secure financial aid from the e.u. and i.m.f. the pm urged the country's politicians to bridge their divisions and vote in a new government as soon as possible. palestine's two rival factions islamist hamas and secular fatah have reached a deal to form a joint in term government they've agreed it will be led by palestinian president mahmoud abbas before the general parliamentary and presidential elections the deal brokered by count tar is seen as a major step towards reconciliation between the opposing groups after more than
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four years of separate governments in the west bank and gaza but the israeli prime minister has slammed the agreement saying palestine has abandon the way to peace. but britain is celebrating sixty years since queen elizabeth the second session to the throne but jubilee year in the u.k. is also marked by preparations for a referendum on scotland's independence coming up in less than ten minutes on our t.v. peter the valid his guess debate what happens if the people say yes to separation in cross-talk. well look at the figures and i'm sure i'm sure the viewers will be able to judge the figures from themselves are publicly available but let's let's look at this issue the last four years it was really weeks of course the u.k. only once in the last five years of it it was a group you know there's a lot to be lower in scotland but in the u.k. average those those figures are going to be rules aren't ok gentlemen i'm going to be reasons why gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess who's going to be
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interlopers here ok this would look like these two people should be together look at all of the differences. i'll be back with the headlines at half past the hour but next let's get the latest from danielle at the business that. broke into business russia's gazprom has a knowledge that it temporarily reduced gas supplies to european customers at the end of last week deliveries to some countries were cut by ten percent this is due to high demand in russia caused by an unusually cold weather the energy giant says it's now made up the shortfall in supply to europe and is pushing production to the maximum the last week of december as the month jumped to twenty five percent it was in a position to me two hundred percent of the inquiries but. the first week of february it was another job they didn't want thing to but it was a previous twenty plus fifty percent normal i just repeated well.
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gas prices in europe have shot up to their highest level since two thousand and six but alexander medvedev says the market is an illusion as there is no extra gas in the system to support market demonstrated that it should it isn't the real sports marketing in the usual market is fragmented that is. it's a lot of people issue to the there's a there's a sport prices there's a price for for long term contracts on leverage and continue to grow all but that is. just more gasoline back so it's only a marginal wardens who will go in the. staying with gazprom it seems the energy joe will remain under state control for the foreseeable future prime minister putin says privatization of the energy sector isn't favorable on the current market conditions but as the economy matures such
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a possibility cannot be ruled out over here did the government is reluctant to give up control of some key assets. check out the markets on the exchange rate the dollar's join the euro in the red against the ruble the euro is continuing to shed against the greenback this hour as well. on your markets the price of brant and light sweet continuing to slip a key meeting of greek leaders on the new bailout has just been postponed to tomorrow investors fear failure to do a deal with confidence and cut demand for crude. now u.s. markets have opened some thirty five percent down this morning in new york on the back of bad economic news in greece and europe also profit taking going on after a strong performance last week european shares have recovered a little in the last hour but they remain down for the day concerns over the greek economy is the main drag on the indices russian markets had a late surge to finish the day slightly in the black let's take
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a look now at some of the main movers gazprom followed the overall market into the black in the last hour of trade precious metals producers were also on the rise as you see there the price of poly metal reached an all time high earlier today with investors cash those gains later in the day is there not unusual uses for profits to compensate the losses of minority shareholders the government has ordered the lender to boy back shares from over one hundred thousand divestitures who bought the stock in two thousand and seven a roughly double the current market price of. oil is gold is posting hefty gains more than eleven percent today that's off the gaining a whopping thirty five percent on friday with the company's capitalization reaching almost nine billion dollars and this mention a number of factors among them a possible merger of polish gold and its russian rival poly metal also the company is expected to buy about four percent of its stock from minority shareholders. that's all the business i'll be back in about fifty five minutes with more here on
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r.t. . culture is the same us we are going to fight you no longer in the muslim world the same search of national commission and sovereignty this is what many scots say they want a realistic is an independent scotland would appeal for.
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calm. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are on the day.
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at seven thirty pm moscow time these are the top stories on our t.v. these years seeking to impose tougher economic sanctions on syria's government after failing to reduce pressure on president three u.n. draft resolution that was blocked by russia and china. and russia as foreign minister calls western reaction to the double veto indecent and has stirred go ahead of his trip to damascus aimed at finding a political solution to the ongoing crisis. also ensuring greater political
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involvement for their people through the internet prime minister brooches lays out his plans to upgrade russian democracy the day after a massive pro and anti-government rallies swept the country. and pressure on all fronts the greek coalition government is in deadlock over adopting new austerity measures to secure a second bailout while the e.u. says it's time for a deal is running out for them. up next on cross talk peter the veil and his guests debate over sex scotland's independence period and how realistic it might be for the nation to go it alone. welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle in search of national determination and sovereignty this is what many scots say they want
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a realistic is an independent scotland would it be a viable state or is this all a ploy with the scots looking for a better deal within the e.u. . to cross scotland's potential sovereignty i'm joined by david kopel in denver he's an adjunct professor of advance constitutional law at denver university in edinburgh we have kenneth gibson he's a scottish national party politician and member of the scottish parliament and in london we crossed to william bayne he is labor m.p. for glasgow north east and shadow minister for scotland tory gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want but first i want to go to david in denver as a constitutionally legally david what kind of case does scotland have to become a sovereign state to have to express its national determination. well they have the same right that people everywhere in the world do which is the the right to
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rule themselves so if the people of scotland vote in a fair referendum for independence then then that would be their right just as the people of ireland with somewhat more trouble were eventually recognised as independent and the people of taiwan wife wise have the same rights of self-determination everyone in the world has the right of self-determination i mean that doesn't mean they gave it doesn't mean. that i'm a nation that doesn't mean they get self-determination does it. well the nice thing is if you're part of the united kingdom which is a. democratic nation with freedom of the press and lots of tolerance for political dissent you've got a better chance of achieving it than the people of taiwan do or the country that's trying to deny them self-determination is a rather repays imperialist nasty country that would invade them should they ever actually formally assert their what is there now de facto independence ok william i
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don't think that you think. assessed that england would invade scotland if and when the looks like it's a matter of time when scotland has a referendum in two thousand and fourteen to have independence what is your attitude towards that would it be a viable state is it legal is it the right thing to do. any state can survive the question is how you prosper best and my belief is we do that better within the united kingdom there are clear benefits of being part of the united kingdom's financial system provides we know who's going to regulate the banks we have a currency which is stable we have provisions for public spending which are democratic i think there are enormous disadvantages in breaking some of those institutions up just to reform them to create a new currency union which apparently is the policy of the s.n.p. but i think we also share so much history we share welfare state yesterday m.p.'s from across the united kingdom were opposing government cuts to disability benefits
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to benefits for cancer patients we share the b b c we we have a great influence in the world or pearman and membership of the un security council these are great advantages that mean being part of the union being part of britain is good for scotland ok ken if i go to you i mean i guess really the glue the real question for you is this card is that you know you want independence so that's why it's a good opening close case right i mean we just heard from david about go a self-determination william says that you have a mutual benefit but the scots have a voice so well that they want to go their own way and will they go their own way. we do have a voice and over the next thirty three months we will take you eating the arguments for independent spirit scholars who in history and traditions assume culture and we see no reason why scorn cannot be as prosperous an independent nation as for example norway the netherlands denmark so many other countries in europe which are
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relatively small in terms of population but are democratic have a high quality of life and high standard of living and under the. party after thirteen years of the rule the gap between the twenty percent richest and to a percent purist was a way to stay in the we see diesel i think we can do a better job scoring will of our own resources and then what's important is that we will take decisions for ourselves and you know not. so far as we know all we know is an aegis oversea increased every year go ahead william here kenneth child poverty has increased well examined has been in government it's gone up every single year the economy is growing less for less quickly in scotland in the last four years than the u.k. average and before that when there was a labor administration hollygrove grew more quickly so i think the picture is a bit more close that's frankly issues aside i mean this is an eating. well look at the figures and i'm sure i'm sure the viewers will be able to judge the figures from themselves they're publicly available but let's let's look at this issue the
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last five years it does mean that anyone likes of course the u.k. only once in the last five years have been in economic. growth so there's to be a lot to be lower in scotland than the u.k. average those figures are going to be the sentiment ok gentlemen i'm going to jump in with your reasons why dismantle gentlemen let me jump in here david i guess is what is the interlocutors here ok this is look like these two people should be together because look at all of the different the. well despite some as some important differences they have what's sort of sad for me as an outsider it is is how much they haven't in common when we heard. professor bain talk about what's what's so great about being part of the united kingdom he talks about the b.b.c. and the welfare state doesn't even mention the great history of great britain as the country that that spread freedom in so many places in the world and including saving civilization from hitler both of them were talking about the welfare state
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and what i think they both failed to realise and they were there are reasonable the there are good representatives of the labor party and of the scottish national party which are both more or less socialist parties and have woken up to the fact that they've run out of other people's money and that if they're trying to make this issue about self-determination for the scottish people about who's going to more effectively fleece a to give money to be what i what i would wish they would both be talking about that is completely new and this is an issue of scottish you know and i know the way he's going about but don't anyone have what about the people of scotland right now why why is neither of you talking about things that could bring more self-determination to the scottish people right now like letting them elect police boards the health boards have direct votes on self government. actually there are no a letter is like they'll have this is going to tell you where i want to william to jump in go ahead william in london go ahead ok the key issue i think is growth i
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mean what we need to collectively as a group of political parties is come up with policies that are going to break away from the sort of get rich quick of capitalism that we've seen in too many countries in the g twenty and across the world in favor of a longer term investment in many ways our economy needs to become rather more like germany's we need to invest for the long term we are arguing for a state investment bank that would be able to get investment into the green industries and to tourism and to other sectors i think we've got to change our whole model of growth and i think we do that best within the united kingdom rather than going through the expense and the trauma of setting up a separate state so i think that is the key response i would have to david's point i think the way that we will empower the scottish people is to have an economy that works better for them that produces more jobs and more secure more social justice as a result ok ken if there's a big argument seems to think i'd like to ask you there's a big argument is that there's
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a big argument in this debate is that the scots have to be cognizant insensitive to the the sensibilities of the of the welsh and of the english of the irish do you think that's fair i mean it's incumbent upon you to convince your fellow members in the union that you want to go on your own way or do you think it's just a matter of a democratic process where you have the right to vote and you vote on independence . well i think the issue which the united nations recognize is up to scottish people decide their own future but we are the first ones that has tried to reach out to other parts of the need to make it clear and independent school and very good friend to england northern ireland and wales and indeed other countries in europe we have no enemies in the world we are not a country that seeks conflict with anyone the great thing about the independence struggle in scotland is there's never even been so much as a news bleed and i may disagree on many of the points but the argument is done through the democratic process and democratic channels and we want strong to be independent so that we can attract and would investment but also the difference in
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really nice he thinks london news best for what's in schools interest we think the people of scotland know best and just as you wouldn't want your next door neighbor taking decisions on your behalf we do one angle and even with the best will in the world decisions on behalf of scotland and this remember is an incorporating union it's not a union of equals scotland is very much a subordinate partner we have less than a tenth of england's population and decisions political decisions will be made on behalf of the majority within you key england and scotland basically if we make those decisions on our selves those decisions will ultimately be better for scotland whether it's a government which is left of center as a professor seems to imagine or indeed one which i believe would one that supports a mixed economy and is more social democratic rather than socialist william why not have two united kingdom as neighbors ok as equals it is you know it can it was pointing out why can't you have that you can still have the same currency if you don't throw it out throw them out of the the pound you have the same queen scotland
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pays for the defense issues why not equals. well i think that's a false point i mean i think that the key issue is precisely what you mentioned the economy i mean let's consider what alex salmond is proposing here his preference is for a currency union with the united kingdom now we can see across across the sea another carnes here in the euro and we know what chancellor merkel last week said that free proper currency union you need to have fiscal union taxes and spending been coordinated across the different countries within the union you also need fiscal political union and she also said that you need a common treasury and know what is being discussed today by the n.c.a.a. agrees with this is easily you want the better willy's base and i think of england well. as things the cd you think should be in charge in europe is that we're saying well let's you know i mean as well i would hope that i would hope that we have more stimulus or speaking as a part of the government and germany and this is an end drawing up the fiscal rules
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of europe as i hope that francois are all on if he wins the french presidential election this me will do but the reality is that what we've seen in the eurozone are very harsh and fierce fiscal rules and the fact is if i examine wins this referendum he would be doing a deal to drop similar fiscal rules with george osborne it doesn't sound much like independence from a tory tax and spend policy to me nor indeed think it would be for the scottish people. cases no one since because the bank of scotland has been independent the chancellor says nine hundred ninety seven and did it even in previous generations when will file and under still go independence they were still part of sterling for many years if i'm going to show you jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our live our discussion on the fate of scott stay with our. education system.
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wealthy british style. was the first. time. markets finance scandal. find out what's
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really happening to the global economy is a report on r.g.p. . and you can. still. welcome back to talk time you know about to remind you we're talking about the independence of scotland. and you can see. ok david if i go back to you in denver and a recent poll gives the the following numbers fifty two percent to thirty two percent english voters favored maximum devolution from scotland or independents a bigger margin of support then the s. and p. s.n.p. in scotland itself i mean it's really interesting it seems we're having talking about it leads right here in many ways
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a lot of it one and one trend that is really moving in the u.k. is that the english are feeling more english and less british at least that's what some data is showing i mean is it a matter of and leads and institutions that want to keep this together and devoid to what people actually think. well i think they have but the opinion polls within scotland itself ok fair to show that there is very strong very strong support for even for more devolution more more scottish home rule but probably for independents per say that it only gets about a third of the support of the population which is one of the reasons why salmon is trying to change the voting rules to have sixteen and seventeen year olds vote but i note that the it is still all about elites in this argument because it's a question of whether you can have central planners in london or an edinburgh running the lives of all the people in scotland i noticed that the two other guests didn't want to talk about my suggestion that the scots could have a much more home rule right now by letting them elect the important officials in
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their local governments that control their health care and the police both of these gentlemen are also for keeping scotland in the european union which is an institution which has a tremendous democratic deficit it has no legitimacy unlike say the united states constitution where our states joined together to make a true national union that was done by the people themselves acting in the conventions were as in the european union has been this project ever since john boehner started it back in the olden days of jamming having elites jam it down on the public and they're all the elites have been consistently terrified of allowing referendums how about our scottish national party friend if this scotland achieves independence will you allow the people of scotland to vote on whether to stay in the european union and ask for labor party friend why not let the people of scotland vote on that and why not let the people of the united kingdom as a whole.

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