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sure and give a slightly debate about the nature. and the condition of the people that are in prison. in prison so with this brick the allegation of the brick that shortly became a a plastic bottle a pepsi bottle that is what was that's the only thing that was discussed in court today there were no charges supine a brick there was a burglary charge of the media yes a plastic bottle when they talk to the judge yes and that's very important to distinguish. so i'd like to make that clear. also i'd like to give a brief update about the condition of the people that have been taken into custody there is one individual who was beaten and has a fractured arm and a fractured skull he was taken to the hospital but been removed from the hospital in ri incarcerated. this is the picture of the policeman this is he was hit by the
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brick being carried out by his buddies apparently it was a. plastic bottle ok maybe that's also easily yeah you know they were acting pretty tough. on that day in question i'm i'm five four and apparently every single person needed to be. engaged with overwhelming force i was pushed. personally i was shoved and pushed as i was watching the man who is accused of having thrown the pepsi bottle they rushed him tackled him put their knees on his neck started beating them with. tons and tase him and as they were doing that. the rest of the crowd and told us all to move back at which point i said no i'm not going to move back you are abusing and beating him right now and i'm not going to move i'm just let you do that without any witness i'm going to bear witness to that because that's the only thing i can do in this situation which was. a very intense
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and emotional situation for everyone who was there to see people being. beaten and all demographics i'm talking older people younger people men women they were teenagers girls boys all kinds of people were really brutalized but with that being say i'd like to say that yes there was there was police brutality in full view of the general public on during this entire process not just in d.c. but across the nation however i'd like to point out that police brutality has been a consistent element of our current economic order for years and vulnerable communities have experienced this. country's recent years so you're asserting and assuming pete that you're a green other than the guy who threw the bottle there really was no violence involved in this other than by the police so that an accurate statement it's hard to know exactly every incident it was
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a chaotic event and so i couldn't say you know i'm curious you know and in oakland it seem like this was kind of a turning point at least for the oakland folks where. these guys dressed in black went out and started smashing windows and happen a couple of times and there's been there's there's a lot of debate about you know a multitude of tactics versus going to diversity of tactics which is code for let some people break windows and and you know it seems like that's not happening here and it is happening there what's the what's the discussion going on in the occupy movement going on here in d.c. about this kind of well that's what you're specifically talking about is black blocking which is one particular tactic in the diversity of tactics regime. black joakim in my opinion would not be easily summarized just simply breaking windows it's. you i believe earlier in the program you spoke of revolutionary versus reformist kinds of tactics. reactionary well black blocking is
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a revolutionary tactic in which people view the power structure is being illegitimate and therefore openly resist whether it's not just breaking windows it's people like the guy who was being swarmed and beaten and if there were a black bloc there would be an effort to leave no one behind it's way more complex than simply saying that it's about breaking windows it's about protecting people. will get violent in protection of property but not be dedicated to protecting people but the system has always gotten violent protection so the black bloc tactic seems. to rupture and demonstrate. that it's going to end any time in history one that's worked yeah. so you're talking about violent tactics like. seriously tried that was robert e. lee. i mean america was founded in a revolutionary war that was
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a violent and it was a we were it was it was a terrorist endeavor like the british would have called george washington a tear is it so. revolutionary but this was a revolution against a foreign government i'm talking about since this has been our government less you're calling to bring down this government i'm not i'm not saying i'm not first of all we're talking about able to see that i just. want to be hypothetical. secondly but it's not hypotheticals when those kids and of them want to specialise . but i will i will say this as a modern example if you want to go to something recent one thousand nine hundred seattle did work. has not attempted to have the same kind of presence and hedge of monica influence in the global well they're just they just you know gone behind their barricades but. we have just thirty seconds with the record of your thoughts . well i was just so. the occupy movement which began september seventeenth on wall
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street touched a nerve because the pain that people are feeling in this country is not being addressed in the words of whether was the great depression and franklin roosevelt's new deal policies something like that is not done then whether police moved people out of a particular can't and can't or not there's going to be the groundswell of support for something that challenges the policies which are leaving so many people hurting and he says i think there was only address of the bonus armies and there was an occupied back that thank you guys thanks so much for the opportunity to talk to robert stevens if the reports of violence are true then frankly in my opinion they should be divided denounced violence has no place in a peaceful movement that's already accomplished so much around the world family radio show i had a discussion with a caller who disagreed with them. from an occupy remarks here and my philosophy that it's not violent unless someone gets hurt right and the government so you think do you think that damaging property is not violence i depend on the property
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if the property is in the process of damaging the public then breaking a few windows is just making a statement yeah i would submit to you john that if you're breaking a few windows the statement that you're making is that you're destroying the movement around you. i'm sorry you are you are absolutely plain into the hands of the police and you are absolutely plain into the hands of the system you are their best front man if you're smashing windows at the bank of america or whatever no matter how much you may think the gag order i feel the government speaks in two languages right now violence and money and unless you can speak in one of their languages they're not going to listen there's a third language and it's called nonviolence and if you use nonviolence it is more potent than money and it's more potent than violence and we've seen that we saw that in the abolition movement we saw that the suffrage movement we saw that the civil rights movement if you can be nonviolent in the face of violence and if you can be poor in the pace at face of riches and maintain your integrity and. not play
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their game because you will always lose when you play their game their game is violence you play that game you're going to lose they got tanks they got helicopters they got guns they got jails you play that game you lose and not only will you lose but you'll tarnish everybody else who's trying to play the game of nonviolence nonviolence is the most powerful force on earth that love is one hundred times more powerful than eight and you know respectfully you need to find that place inside yourself where you can as as robbed us once twenty years ago he said even the most you know vile racist billy club wielding you know african-american smashing white southern races sheriff deep down inside just wants to be loved even you've got to find that place in yourself where you can see the fundamental humanity in even the people who are committing evil acts you oppose their evil but you don't do it with evil this is the number one issue occupy wall street's going to have to deal with going forward and i'll have more on the battle for the soul of the movement in tonight's daily take.
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crazy alert hey washing your clothes well a company in canada has released a new line of jeans that can be worn for months without you know washing as a possible scratch and sniff jeans of course every scraps of fabric releases the smell of first rest varies as a result owners just keep scratching away avoid the smell of musty dirty clothes the makers of the jeans naked in famous denim claim that the fresh raspberry smell can last for up to five wash cycles a spokesman for the company said hard core denim lovers won't wash them for months to get an individual look new versions of the fruity fresh jeans include grapefruit apple and banana and are already in the works all the target audience for the jeans is probably the messy and lazy college student price tags pretty steep but two hundred bucks then again only in college can you get away with a line no really scratch my crotch. after the break police systematically
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raided and evicted occupy d.c. supply ship but over the weekend where does the occupy d.c. group go from here and how can the movement as a whole continue to survive. if we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old and since you know lived through. i'm a concession i'm a total get of friends that i love traveling hip hop music and. he was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the world without you it's a place. you
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know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture .
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go back to the big picture on to our been coming up in this half hour democrats and the republicans legislative demands over a key bill how will their decision affect american workers also many argue that climate change is a very slow process that occurs over long periods but new research is showing some startling revelations and for coast to coast the occupy movement has lost a great deal of its initial momentum and regained its energy by committing to establishing a clear leadership structure. from
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wisconsin to ohio to indiana to arizona and now to minnesota workers are getting screwed republicans in the states and minnesota are pushing for a state constitutional amendment that would make their state officially a right to work for less state following in the footsteps of indiana which one went to right to work for less just last week becoming the twenty third station state in the nation to do so as i've talked about extensively on this show right for work right to work for less was lead to lower wages for workers an average of all five thousand dollars lower per average for boy fewer employees sponsored health care plans and fifty one percent more workplace injuries and deaths so if you're watching this show and you live in minnesota and you care about having decent wages benefits and a safe place to work and now is the time to start fighting back but this is an all too surprising over the last year we've seen a full on assault against working people led by republicans at the state level but
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we haven't seen yet is that same sort of assault coming out of washington d.c. from congress until now today labor unions are saying the democrats in the senate has sold out workers by green to demands by house republicans to make it harder for transportation workers with the f.a.a. to unionize rather than passing a simple funding measure for the f.a.a. like all previous congresses have done with no problem republicans in the house instead decided to hold the funding until democrats of agreed to insert anti-union provisions in the funding measure and the seventy five to twenty vote today in the senate the democrats caved and passed the funding bill complete with its anti-union language for more on the story exactly what's at stake for transportation workers across the union i'm joined by george cole senior director of research and development the communication workers of america george welcome thank you who have to be here so what happened today and why why that's the big question because what happened today was a blow for working americans. the in your lead up the house republicans john
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boehner led by delta airlines frankly. decided that they wanted to insert into an air safety provision that everybody wants to see passed and a controversial unrelated provision which would change the way the transportation workers decide to have a union or not for the last year this is been going on and delta airlines wanted it to be different airline union elections to be different than every other election in america where the majority of those who vote the side the outcome of the election didn't like that rule they wanted a rule which would prevent majorities of those voting if the majority wasn't as big as everybody who could possibly vote and so they fought this f.a.a. reauthorization bill insisting that their guys boehner and cantor inserted into the bill legislation that would provisions that would overturn you know regular elections very limited no no they just jumped on this one more second they shut
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down the f.a.a. the last month a couple months ago they shut down the f.a.a. because they wouldn't let go of this particular provision and for a temporary minor service provision let's say that there's a lot of people in the union right and so typically if you held an election and say . fifty people showed up to vote and twenty six of them said yes and twenty four said no the majority of people who voted i mean this is how we do it national exam but you got one hundred million registered voters fifty million show up and twenty six million decide the election so twenty six twenty six people but under these rules the fifty people who didn't show up would all be counted as no vote right so even though my dear in georgia the people who voted voted yes it would be twenty six to seventy four rather than twenty six to twenty four right and has this ever happened anywhere in any elections anywhere in the united states or anywhere else in the world i mean this is nowhere else in the are no where else in the world nowhere else in the united states except for the airline and transportation
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industry and soon i mean to a union state near you exactly and that's this is the end of the. real problem with this bill is two things one is that the republicans demonstrated that they can hold hostage things that everybody cares about and they can insert bills that do the the the the ny workers the ability to organize and that will ultimately even though it was a long year long kind of struggle back and forth the democratic senate took a vote which put them on record as did nine workers the right to vote now that the actual provision turns out to be in the weeds a little different than what you describe but there was no question that delta airlines for the last year was pursuing exactly what you were talking about there where they wanted non majority of those who voted to determine the outcome of all right this is a day in the weeds part was the shift from thirty five to fifty percent to trigger an election. but what's behind it is big money big delta the laser focused their guys looking for every opportunity that they could find right to subvert democracy
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so they could have a way in which to roll back to us because unions here would raise up wages and help us create our did well and unions are democracies right they are democratic institutions where they elect their leaders but in a majority rule whether even their eggs whether they even exist or not is majority rule and and you know to have a democracy in the workplace is there any way out of this right now is that this is a done deal right now and so the way out of this for us is to step back and to say listen we need to create a movement our democracy is fundamentally broken you've talked about it in terms of money in corporate the corporate money in politics we've got to get corporate money out of politics we've got to change the rules of the senate that allow that require sixty votes for every one of your own to buy delta you know delta airlines exactly george thanks so much for thank you saab appreciate your time thank you if working people don't have democrats on their side then who do they have so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes as the
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firesign theater says everything you know is right. you know you think you know if you really are you are right. to say that you're right. and you know is wrong. in today's debate on global warming there are the climate change deniers who want you to think that climate change global warming are absolute myths and then there are those who believe that global warming and climate change do exist but occur at such slow rates that we only need to be concerned about the effects they'll have on future generations not on ourselves but if you really think the climate change always occurs at an infinitesimally slow rate then everything you know is wrong joining me now to discuss the latest research on earth's climate change history and ongoing climate change is dr jeffrey masters director of meteorology with the weather underground dr masters welcome great to have you with us thanks tom thanks for joining us what has ocean sediment data and
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the ice core drilling in greenland and other places told us about how climate change happens in the united states where you do another person. like he said climate change happened slowly over a period of hundreds or thousands of years but looking at the ice core data from greenland we've seen some really remarkable things preserved in that ice core you see year by year layers of what has happened and in some cases in the past the climate has gone from zero to a warm climate like we have now to an ice age climate in just three year or less years so a really remarkable change in a short period of time we should. do we have that we have a graph actually of the last one hundred thousand years maybe we can throw that ok should show that full screen just during the last eight thousand years we've had this stable period of climate. but how quickly could it here say it could it could
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flip in three years are there any indications that we're near some kind of a tipping point. the past history you are familiar with how it goes from ice age to kind of warm conditions at present so the big question is can we get those kind of severe jumps with the current climate going to a warmer climate in other words could there be a sudden transition just in a few years where we break that one of these huge jumps to a completely different climate that's warmer we're certainly pushing the climate system very hard by adding all these heat trapping gases like carbon dioxide and we know the atmosphere is not stable it has these thresholds you can cross where all the sudden you're in a new state so it is a big concern with a lot of scientists that we could go into one of these new states where all of a sudden we jump to a new future warmer climate could that mean if for example the great conveyor belt the thermohaline circulation that brings warm water from the pacific around the
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southern tip of south africa all the way up to the north atlantic we call the gulf stream as a passes the united states and keeps europe which is about the latitude of alaska like europe rather than alaska if if that thing shuts down isn't that what causes an ice age in europe and is there a possibility of that happening. when you change an ocean currents like that you can have a sudden very dramatic effect and in the past we've thought that maybe ice ages were a trigger when that kind of thing happened so yeah ocean currents are very bad to mess with and have suddenly stop or suddenly start and there is some scientific work which shows that yeah we would expect that europe in particular would cool very dramatically if we had the ocean currents shut down there and not only would it cool but it would drive very significantly as well we have a huge decrease in precipitation not only in europe but in africa as well so all very sudden changes that would be very bad for civilization to have
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a couple million people unable to see themselves all of a sudden and and maybe even keep themselves warm the the chart that we showed a few minutes ago of one hundred thousand years in the article the wrote hundred thousand years of climate data shows some pretty dramatic swings over one hundred thousand years but my understanding is that the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere right now is something that we haven't seen in four hundred thousand years what would you know does that make you nervous. yeah that does make me nervous whenever you push the climate really hard by one of these so called forest seems that you add to it either you can force the climate to change adding greenhouse gases or with big volcanic eruptions or changing the output of the sun while the climate in britain in the past to respond in a very dramatic way so i'm expecting us to see some very dramatic shifts in the climate that are unprecedented in our lives certainly and do expect to see them in
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our lifetimes oh absolutely i think we're already starting to see the early stages of such ships we've had such amazing severe weather events and shifts in the atmospheric circulation over the past two years like i've never seen it by thirty years since meteorologists you know you had to say i want to be going to a new address. almost two hundred people just died from freezing in europe in the last week or two and north america hasn't even had a head of winter it's really remarkable doc dr master geoffrey masters thanks so much for being with us tonight all right your overshoot your great work and a brilliant article thank you now you know everything about climate change and it's right. after the break and tonight's daily take the occupy movement is continuing to lose momentum from coast to coast how can a leader how can we establish a leadership structure to help provide new energy and for us.
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