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it's very much under control of the state so it's a good example as this movement is transparent. if compare with elections absolutely transparent. and moved by people themselves ok enough to know the claim by those who oppose the opposition is that if you win. elections or whatever there will be unrest in the country because because the opposition is not ready it said it's not united there are many tensions inside the opposition there isn't a leader ready to take responsibility and. so on and so forth so why do you think that you for example personally that you do have a mandate to represent the people who gave them and you know no one to give them and do it but we have opinion polls we had. the independent opinion poll on the new i'm sorry but according to opinion polls i think television presenters
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have very high ratings but they can't represent i don't know inside they are not really there are no. concrete questions about confidence to the little house. on the vigorous being politicians as not politicians i am one of them so we have some some credit of confidence from the people what you are absolutely right. we don't want to destroy the country we don't want to reward lucian we strongly against any wild and actions already in moscow as you know been absolutely peaceful and absolutely safe safe for people. we guarantee safety for the people we need political reforms and we believe that political reforms democratic reforms will strengthen the russia but not make russia we will i have already mentioned that something is already happening including something happening with your own
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party and your own life as the politician following the decision of the european human rights court the. supreme court of russia ruled that the liquidation of your republican party was illegal now what made it happen and is it is is it a sign our of something or simply have some bad news for my european friends and for my colleagues it's absolutely stupid story five years ago my party was liquidated despite my party was all this liberal party in russia republican party of five years later i warn european court of human for human rights in strasbourg in january i won the russian supreme court decision of supremes court what was it called in the european court decision that liquidation was illegal what happened after that minister of justice of russia mr kahn a while ago peeled to superior court again to liquidate my party despite two court
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decisions european court of what it means that the government steal try to stop activity of my body does that mean that the minister of justice is breaking the law because absolutely behind it to some because the ministry of justice is the executive branches and it has to abate the court the supreme court decision absolutely and he doesn't absolutely it means that he appeals yes but does he have the right to appeal they have a right but it's very strange if you have to the citizens court decisions it it's difficult to believe that european court of the supremes court of russia again it builds to two laws party he's appealing to the constitutional court not the supreme court again but it's again it's a legal procedure it's a little it's a difficult legal procedure well they're trying to make life after you're in a position of this is not a vote but i remember one of the actions after the next elections and i can't participate elections. last five years and i again can't participate elections
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because minister of justice is still trying to break this is one of european court insuperable. it's a bad signal that means that russian state russian government is still. repressive really think in the political opposition well iraq received there are procedures always sort of it's not just rhetoric decision it's a little this is a bit of fighting against a position as well it was the last five years what do they tell you you do have contacts with with people behind the kremlin walls of course yes they do this they said to do they explain their decision its interest and no one takes the responsibility here no one everyone says that's not me i don't know i ask another guy that's not me no one no one takes responsibility on him but who makes a decision it's a question well but what's your feeling will your party be restored by the next parliamentary election due in six years i think so yes you think you think yes and
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i hope my hope my hope is that it will be not only my party is one of my partners in russia but will be much hope that we will be really united in strong liberal party is that it will be if it will be united liberal party it could take twenty twenty five thirty percent of government elections and be one of the biggest political parties and here you are optimistic yes this is the i don't give you stick not because of power not about not because of mr because of. russian society has changed for the last ten years and the russian society in our desire is totally different with the ninety's in the ninety's it was who're. and very split a decided this is almost without middle class now it's my much more prosperous society with massive middle class and now as a historian i could say that maybe it's the first time in russian history for last thousand years when we can have real social betterment for democracy and this
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people of that race it's a signal that we have civil society demanding democracy there is an interesting opinion pinion is that that maybe putin is. so clever that he is he wants to liberalize this legislation on party registration in order to make more small liberals and i really. make the confront and not let them unite into one big movement may that be true absolutely i think it's dear to split liberals land can turn small liberal parties to split the left flank on small left parties to split so-called put on twenty or thirty so-called pejorative parties but we must be smart enough not to game this player not to play this game and it is my point that we need strong united liberal party and this strong united
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liberal party will collect million of wards and seventy percent of people who'd been on sorrow or be liberals according to opinion polls listen very well but the show i was going to say you are a historian and you've been in the studio in this capacity we talked about his history and very process with the well if we look not at the american england but east european countries post the tele tearing countries post to tell a tear in democracies we see that in all of these countries mainly there is the new democratic party and the old socialist communist who are the same in the russia would also have begun upon us so maybe the future of russian democracy is either put in this partly or the or the near all communists. and there's no place fearful for the liberals like you know i don't think so he's either too big you know players when i when i think about russia i think it's very much similar to
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poland now the czech republic to hungary so i mean that we have we have different groups in society we have strong left left left. movement potentially communists and social democrats we have so-called nationalist and protrudes but we have real real liberal part of society as i said previously twenty twenty five maybe thirty percent and and and and drama of current russian politics is that this this segment the exit is well educated people are not represented in the political system thank you thank you very much for coming i wish you free and fair elections and the same to you wherever you are watching just a reminder that my guest today was of light and the rest of the russian opposition and that's it for now from all of us if you want to have yourself spotlight or have someone in mind when you think i shouldn't when it's time to drop me a spotlight will be back with more firsthand comments on what's going on in and
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outside russia until then stay on our team and thank you.
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breaking news this hour the russian foreign minister says serious leader is committed to ending the violence in the country and is ready to negotiate with all political sides syria's opposition has also said they're willing to take part in talks with russia mediating between them and the government. greek standoff clashes on the streets of athens as protesters voiced anger at massive new job cuts while coalition members struggle to agree more austerity measures to cure a vital second battle out. kind of discovery that could reveal previously unknown lifeforms russian scientists drilled deep into
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a some glacial lake in the coldest place on earth are to explore the significance of this rare finding. with our very own correspondents in antarctica. live from our headquarters in central moscow you're watching r t with me and us in a way it's six pm here in the russian capital four pm in damascus and russia says the syrian president is ready for dialogue with the opposition this is following talks with president assad in damascus russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov valid moscow will continue its efforts to settle the syrian crisis meanwhile the opposition would welcome russia mediating talks with syrian authorities are seizing corpus cannot reports from the syrian capital. russia's foreign ministers threaten our side and this is the result of their meeting on our side it is ready for
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dialogue with the opposition basically the political will she is ready for the dialogue with the opposition another important issue is that there are three and therefore you are you are in the green light to allow me or market jitters for all of the arab league here inside the car speeding including sending them to people's violence in syria the violence so they could be here all night. which we should there be another important issue that russia's foreign minister mentioned calling if meeting with the president is there further because there are doubts we believe the commission which began working on sex where you constitution of the country this is also he who is traditionally linear structure according to the russian foreign minister be the son of a nation like levels are ready to. go will be perilous also quite shortly.
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over it is going to be all of the usual car. well let's discuss foreign minister love rose visit to damascus with. macof with a political analyst from the institute of world economy and international relations thank you for being with us this hour foreign minister lavrov said the syrian government has heard moscow signal what exactly was the signal and what does that mean. a lot of things that the really after the visit of russian foreign minister sergei lavrov to the moscow. the syrian government and the president bashar assad had actually receive the signal from moscow to moscow is very much interested in the. syrian conflict and more school would do everything possible to help the syrian president to help the syrian government and syrian authorities to find ways for a dialogue with the opposition and without. all the violence erupting in this
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country so this is a signal from moscow that i think that means that still some more ways of a peaceful settlement and diplomatic solution of the syrian crisis president said he's ready to talk to all political forces in syria well moscow be able to convince all factions within the opposition to do the same and i don't know why our western countries so reluctant to pursue that line this line of sitting down and talking out the situation. oh well i think that concerning the first part of your question i would say that of course i suppose that could really has actually some lover a syrian government on syria and the most who can persuade also the opposition to take part in the negotiations with the syrian authorities because more taking into consideration the positions not only all the government of syria
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but also all the opposition and i think that the. position taken by the russia is a very prudent and a very positive one so and regarding the western attitude i think that unfortunately we can see that the most probably some western powers would like a rapid resume change in in syria and they probably do not understand the whole consequences of this rapid regime change and if there would be any foreign interference you know syria in the fast saw the consequences would be very much great but one of the issues moscow and damascus did agree on is that the arab league should continue and even expand its mission in the country and could give way belief that there's an eye whether to resume its work there do you see think we'll see another mission. well i think that
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even though the resuming of. supply saw for weapons according to the contract signed with the syrian government doesn't actually interfere with the. internal situation in the country because the trade license a continuing to exist between russia and the syria and syria remains as one of their major part in the russian federation in this part of the world i mean in the middle east so i think that actually the fear is soft some of our western. governments and some wasn't conscious that the supplies of russian arms to syria supply self russian arms to syria somehow in the hands of the situation on the new level would in danger the situation and stability would be undermined there will be more violence in syria they are not grounded do you think that the outcome of today's talks in damascus could have any influence on the international approach to
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resolving the crisis. i think that the. steel the. league of arab states hasn't said the final yes the final what's on the settlement of the peaceful settlement of the syrian internal crisis and i think that if the league of arab states will take more. cautious and more are true i would say true approach to the decision of this situation would actually try to convince both parties both sides which i engage unfortunately in this internal conflict and will do some kind of peaceful negotiating in between the parties. participating in this conflict there is still more international community to peacefully finalize this internal
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situation in in syria and to find the better ways to. actually see that more violence would be erupting in syria in the near future right the american political analyst from the institute of world economics and international relations thank you very much for your analysis this hour. but russia and china are facing a barrage of criticism from some western and arab states for their decision to block the latest u.n. resolution on syria moscow has already done the reaction has steranko saying the resolution took a bias approach to resolving the civil conflict artists are furthest in syria when the diplomatic showdown began now joins us to explain what exactly. art that your side seeing eye to eye on sarah take us through it. well the syrian conflicts preved divisive on absolutely every level having just spent a number of weeks in the country we saw
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a population more polarized than ever and unfortunately these divisions we've seen spreading to the international stage when russia and china vetoed the un resolution on syria we saw that spot fierce criticism from many in the west. the united states is disgusted that a couple members of this council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose here this is a do. as well as murdering regime can get its credibility back internationally or with its own people. when you can root when you realize the house you see what a mistake is making by backing this regime that is not the sort of language the suspect in these diplomatic gatherings very very strong words coming from many people in the west and certainly these echoes of what we said has been happening inside the country where more and more it seems that people are being pushed to
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take a side now russia's stance has always been to try and stay more neutral middle grounds to this crisis and of course within the country you've seen that moderate middle ground just be continually squeezed as us and your perspective on what is happening there is obviously a very much a part of exactly where you are in the country certain areas where the opposition feel they've come. from the security forces very much get the sense of the suspected and their concerns and you could other parts of the country that are still very strongly pro-government so concerns that the u.n. security council will seem to be paying close to raul whether they would have been taking a side in a civil war rather than trying to find a neutral solution that was really one of russia's main concerns because remember a lot of what the u.n. security council were basing their assertions on is still not very clear the evidence is still not certain about exactly what's been happening on the figures
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aren't clear we know certainly that a lot of the figure is also take into account casualties from the pro-government side as well so there is concern when there's still so many questions that have been left unanswered in we saw. missions like the arab league monitors going into the country again their report presented grave abuses on both sides so that's on the table think that russia was very unhappy with the resolution the seem to be taking side in the didn't make mention of the armed groups that have been seen within the country. don't you sleep with them stewing you could do some influential members of the international community including those sitting around this table from the very beginning of the syrian crisis been undermining opportunities for political settlement by calling for regime change stirring up the opposition against the authorities nor is it a thing to encourage and feed on the methods of struggle the draft resolution put
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to the vote does not adequately reflect the real situation in syria and sends unbalanced signals to the syrian sides it doesn't take into account the proposals that as well as withdrawing syrian armed forces from the cities this should be an end to a turn explain on groups on state institutions and neighborhoods. in the wake of the we've seen inside the country it seems that security forces has stepped up. assault on cities such as home some of the reports that have been coming from there certainly very very disturbing but once again the focus has really been on not taking sides here and finding a way that will put an end to this violence because of course when it comes to taking sides the loss of innocent lives that we've seen coming for the country absolutely abhorrent to anyone whether you are russian whether you are english whether you are chinese i mean that is absolutely from the start being very clear that everyone wants to work towards ending the violence and finding a solution that would do that russia didn't feel that the u.n.
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resolution would be the way to achieve that and they made it very clear that they're not backing assad's regime they're not friends they're not allies they want a neutral stance say we've seen the meeting with the end of ask is with the government we also they've been holding talks with the opposition as well you've got very strong narratives coming from all sides here from the opposition from the pro-government and it seems that the situation is move further and further away from dialogue really the message here is being to try and take this back and find a solution that focuses on this dialogue and doesn't simply add more fuel to the fire and provoke the situation in the country escalating even further than it has. all right our two star for thank you very much bring us up to date on this latest diplomatic standoff over the situation in syria and how to resolve the crisis thanks for that update well later this hour we hear from the foreign minister of bahrain one of the key arab league members who shares his thoughts on what should
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be done to stop the violence in syria. the thing is after what happened in libya and that any country would think twice before committing to specific measures the situation in the region is extremely volatile the five countries are divided into two major and minor according to their geopolitical standing how closely or just one state of the other the rule in regional fields and so on regime change in a minute they would not believe it was and we journalists going to let me add to the syria on the other hand is very important to the reason why we have to think very hard about the possible repercussions and complications we might have to deal with before we interfere in syria's openers. the public anger again has spilled onto the streets of athens where thousands of anti austerity protesters gather in front of parliament police used tear gas to disperse crowds trying to break through a cordon around the parliament building but this is greek trade unions are holding
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and nation whine general right in response to fifteen thousand job cuts is one of the fashion of the greek government which has been made to appease international creditors a long delayed agreement on the debt valid terms have still failed to be realized and the folks who knew this to say greece desperately needs the one hundred thirty billion euros from international creditors to avoid defaulting in march but for more on the situation i'm now joined by from the youngest satoris the terrorists i should say lecturer at the university u g m thank you for being with us live on the line from athens if i think the coalition government a long time for agree on the reforms are they really likely to reject the belle out terms or is fear of public reaction new painful measures holding them back. well first of all to describe these measures just painful it's very this is saying very little we're talking about the source of the zoster. they are proposing not
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only extreme job losses but also an extreme wage reduction in private sector in a country where the average wage cost is already minus twenty five percent imposing another twenty percent reduction would only mean tearing apart the social fabric so even if the government the coalition parties are thinking about signing this new loan agreement i think that this would only lead to new social explosives they're just gathering up explosive material in society the great greeks are holding another nationwide strike in response to that and were. the thing clashes on the streets of athens this afternoon the government seems hugely out of touch with public opinion if that's the case. yes it's completely out of touch because they're only thinking in terms of getting get another bailout loan but the
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problem is exactly that we are already two years into a vicious circle of increasing that. bailouts bailouts than the need to know recession actually of extreme economic depression to be more precise social diverse states and there's no end in sight although both the governments the ruling parties and the european union are using default as a blackmail i think that we should do exactly this i think that it's high time for greece to default on its own terms we cannot script society cannot take any more of this there's no end in sight i mean sometimes they say that this whole process of internal devaluation might lead to greece getting more competitive and sort of becoming an export oriented to low wage low cost.

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