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dreams that had been erected over the statue of macpherson square had to be taken down i was there for part of the morning and early afternoon on saturday so it began as a pretty peaceful calm environment where police slowly began to overtake one part of the park after another but then they started to remove the tents in an effort to enforce a new policy of no enclosed tents on the park's premises and many of the occupiers fled to one of the quadrants in the park which held their makeshift library and that's when police began being more aggressive. right. here tomorrow morning everybody. was. now the police seem to use this tactic push more a few times on saturday in the corralling of the protesters but the spots of violence one of which involved demonstrators and cops fighting over
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a barrier fence. thank. god. well i video was filmed by artie's andrew blake and it shows the uniformed aggression by cops towards occupiers and the press oftentimes not differentiating between the two in fact photojournalist jerry nelson was amongst the eleven people who were arrested that day for allegedly disobeying orders and assaulting police officers several ports confirm of the violence quickly subsided and the protesters agreed to leave the camp which has been cleared of their tents and bedding by saturday afternoon by the evening sanitation workers and a few police officers were combing through any of the last belongings there are left to make pearson with forklifts and garbage trucks and any time with belongings left inside was confiscated and swept up and police and forced the policy for the rest of the day with
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a truck carrying an infrared scanner to ensure that nobody sleeps there duffy remember the occupy encampment drew the attention of congress when republican darrell issa called on the members of the house oversight and government reform committee to tackle the very pressing issue of the parks becoming unsanitary and infested with rodents it was a rare move considering congress isn't usually get involved in local issues and many saw this call for eviction is one that was politically motivated by congressional conservatives. now saturday's addiction was the first time the people were actually removed from the park which has been considered one of the longest standing occupy camps as one stood for one hundred twenty nine days and even though park police came through removed many people's personal belongings some occupiers were already back on sunday others stayed at the freedom plaza encampment regardless demonstrators a valid to return saying that you can't evict an idea whose time has come meanwhile the freedom plaza camp which is subject to the same no tent rules has been left untouched this weekend and as of right now we're not sure if they're going to face park police in the near future or if they'll be allowed to continue their protest.
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laws are now focused on syria for an eleven month old uprising and continual government crackdowns are keep going on today the united states closed its embassy in damascus and with through all staff members as follows not only the shelling of the city of homs on friday and saturday but also a failed un security council vote to condemn assad's government which both china and russia vetoed now since then the rhetoric has picked up even u.s. ambassador susan rice twitter the following disgusted that russia and china prevented the un security council from fulfilling its sole purpose so is this putting into question the importance of the u.n. or the showing of changing global influence and what should we expect the u.s. and other countries to do next joining me to discuss it is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks so much for joining us tonight has been a while since united spoken about this what do you really think is is happening in
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syria right now right i mean it seems like the violence is perhaps picking up at the same time you also have those that are in opposition to assad who always want to peacefully protest saying that they now feel like they have no choice but to arm themselves and a lot of warnings that this will be a bloody civil war well i think there's no question but that right now the situation becoming far more broadly than it's been up to this day do it's also coming to be more and more akin to a civil war and more and more like what we've worn in libya particularly in the earlier days and there are a number of reports. out. about soldiers and even officers leaving it's clear the number of them are being moved to shelters outside of the syrian territory and that they're coordinating an opposition so you know what's a good country on the road to civil war right now all right so let's talk about this new u.n. security council resolution which was vetoed by china. and by russia this was not
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about military intervention not about a no fly zone it really was just calls to condemn assad's regime but how much do you think that what ended up happening with the un security council resolution over libya which did then obviously we saw a lot of mission creep there and ultimately led to cut off ease fall do you think that something like that might have influence their decision. one hundred percent and i think that the vote that occurred this week in the rejection of the resolution of condemnation. was already foreseeable from the close of the libyan operations i think it was very very clear in fact i said this in the piece i wrote in foreign policy that the next time this came up was likely to be in the context of syria and it is very clear that russia and china and perhaps a few other nations would vote no and the reason is not that this resolution was going straight to responsibility to protect the military measures but it was
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setting the stage for exactly that because a if we go back and look at what happened to libya there was the same sort of condemnation that was about to repeatedly and that set a situation where the security council to enforce its position had to move to a military sense or i think russia and china also a few other members are very concerned about what happened with libya because they voted the resolution to authorize the use of military force but also set very clear limits on that force it did not authorize a regime change toppling the government of moammar gadhafi and yet the u.s. the u.k. and france used the resolution as cover for regime change in fact a number of people on national security council when pressed on this say openly that the president obama concluded that this was this was really the only meaningful way that the people of libya could be protected well that may be an
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honest assessment but that's not something that was authorized by the security council so i think to preserve their positions china and russia said no. what do you think of the you know like i said the rhetoric has definitely been behaving from the u.s. side to anything with that tweet that i read from susan rice she said that she's disgusted by the v.m. and that that doesn't allow the u.n. to fulfill its sole purpose and we've seen something like that before or is this i guess just a development in our new digital age you know well the tweets are argue but i think that sort of language this is certainly not new or not unique i mean i have sympathy for this view i mean i think most people who watch what's going on in syria are appalled by it and would like to see the security council raise its voice and interject its authority on the side of the protesters to protect them but i think in this case you know the example of libya is standing in the way so i think
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this is this is the negative fallout from the libya experience we're seeing right now and so what do you think really my happen next here because we've already seen a u.s. senator john kerry for example say if they're thinking of the other options of other ways to help the syrian people you know is it going to end up like the situations we've seen many times before where the u.n. is essentially taken out of the picture and countries go around in a might be to excuse me to supply weapons to one side or the other or even to you know to be a little more aggressive in terms of an intervention well they were able to read the tea leaves from the last seventy two hours and you look at the statements that come out of london washington and paris in particular we see those nato allies circling back to something like the beginning of the libya situation where they're talking repeatedly about the need for assad to leave they say it's a regime change situation they appear to be locking themselves into that position
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and i brag i think if if they stick to it is going to mean the sort of a covert or intelligence operation aimed at undermining the assad regime. alternately taking it down a probably an operation that's prepared to allow this to take six months a year two years if that's necessary of sustained activity and i think in the periphery of syria there are a number of states that seem to share this analysis surprisingly turkey which at the beginning of the conflict at a very friendly attitude towards syria has turned around i think this public opinion in turkey was turned by the attacks on the civilians and it's clear that turkey now is being used as a staging grounds by people who are determined to oppose the government of assad barrel. so what do you think of all that says about the u.n. and the role of the u.n. is playing right i mean we saw a lot of people even with iraq when the u.s. decided to go around the u.n.
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say that this is completely undermining what the u.n. is it's going to say that really has no credibility anymore and yet you could say that we also see some shifting global dynamics here south pointing to the fact that in the past if you vote alongside with you know what the u.s. might want then you might get some good aid packages out of it but that neither china nor russia as a certainly need that anymore and they're willing to you know to assert that and the influence that they have what i'd say two things here i mean one is that this idea of responsibility to protect that the u.n. would step in to protect civilians even while not i'm willing itself in the ultimate political resolution of accomplished i think that was a very very important idea that's been badly wounded by by the libyan example and so i think that promising role has been question really but secondly i i wouldn't count the u.n. out all the way because i think if if the situation in syria continues to on the
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rabble we see the assad government losing its grip on the country at some point you are going to see the security council come together and authorize some sort of measures but i don't think we're going to see anything like the libyan intervention again it's going to be more in the nature i think of humanitarian relief measures and maybe peacekeeping at some point maybe supervised elections those sorts of measures and if you see many died in the past they may happen but the situation i'd say the authority to use our government has got to a ruby eroded considerably further before that are things. and i think that you know as you mentioned two of the living example recent reports of what's going on there of torture going on in prisons and of what's going on in egypt to definitely make the prospects of if assad were to leave will it only be incredibly messy and violent afterwards seemed more likely scott thanks so much for joining us tonight great to be with you. mike coming up next we're going to bring you all the latest
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on p.f.c. bradley manning as you noticed any politically motivated ads during last night's super bowl when we come back we're going to determine if the money is corrupting politics and if so you've got. ten thirty pm in moscow the zero r.t. headlines. it is clear that efforts to end violence must be accompanied by a dialogue between political forces syria's president confirm that he is ready for such work breaking news this hour syria's opposition signals it welcomes russia's mediating efforts in trying to bring them and the government to the negotiating table this after president assad assured russia's foreign minister of his readiness to talk to all political sides and promise syria's new constitution will soon be put to
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a vote. as russia stepping up diplomatic efforts to solve the crisis in syria major european and gulf states recall their ambassadors from damascus. greek standoff clashes on the streets of athens as protesters voice anger at massive new job cuts while coalition members struggled to agree to more austerity measures to secure our vital second bailout. and it is coverage that could reveal previously unknown life forms russian scientists drilled deep into a subglacial lake in the coldest place on earth we explore the significance of the rare finding with our own correspondent who reported from antarctica. more news coming your way about thirty minutes but first part two of below the show stay with us.
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hi guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because you've got some to say listen now first i want to respond to a viewer that watched my fireside friday on senate leaders attempts to work around the defense trigger cuts and such for john seventy four commented on you tube the hypocrisy is all the more palpable when you consider that this is the party of say it with me now personal responsibility i don't think they know what that means let me just point out the hypocrisy on defense cuts is on both sides of the aisle unfortunately when it comes to spending on defense spending americans to war you can almost always guarantee you the democrats and the republicans will come together to vote in unity now in this specific case republican leadership is
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working to undermine the defense trigger cuts which they themselves agreed to which is what makes it so absurd so i do have to say that though you know that like our viewer i find the republican rhetoric on fiscal and personal responsibility to be a wee bit hollow when you put it in the context of their support for the enormous defense budget and the lengths that which they will go to defended that really includes going against what they agreed on they're not being either accountable or responsible in this case the next one responder if you are the watch my interview with an experience on privately owned prisons jeffrey baldwin asked on facebook what's next privately operated police departments privately operated courts. now it's kind of far out as some of those might sound it's really not there are a lot of people out there that would like to see things go in that direction as we speak cities all across the country are experimenting with privatizing fire departments so it's not that far fetched to see how much farther they would like it to go public services across the map are under attack public schools public health care public e-mail and it's all fair game for those that like to see the government
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out of their lives unfortunately these areas are often where we see more waste of taxpayer money where we see more corruption so there needs to be a lot more research done in the face of these attempts to privatized everything and finally i want to respond to a kind of you are doing walton tweeted out this show i just wanted to comment you on the interview with dylan ratigan a great job and a very informative keep up the good work so thank you it was an honor to have dylan on the show and a lot of fun too i can tell you one thing that if there were more dylan ratigan is on the mainstream networks i think this country would be in a very different place so it's of my ranting soon i'll be back with more as usual later in the week. well and i would got an update on p.f.c. bradley manning since mid january we've been waiting for a decision from major general michael lymington of the court martial convening authority he will be deciding whether or not to take up colonel paul months as recommendation of a court martial for manning it turns out now he has announced late friday that manning will face twenty two charges including wrongfully causing intelligence to
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be published on the internet where enemies can access that information transmitted defense information public property and records fraud and related activity in connection with computers violating army regulation on information assurance and the army's information security program and most importantly he's being charged with aiding the enemy offense that can carry the death penalty sentence but prosecutors here have already determined at their maximum punishment will be life in prison and many also potentially faces a dishonorable discharge or reduction in rank to the lowest pay grade and total forfeiture of all pain allowances so far there is no date set for the army privates court martial proceedings but as kim zetter of wired points out the uniform code of military justice requires that a suspect be tried within one hundred twenty days of being arrested now since manning's arrest on may twenty sixth of two thousand and ten has clearly been held way past the speedy trial timeline so at this point we don't know when man who will finally learn his fate that will make sure to keep you updated. now if you like
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millions of people around the country watch the super bowl last night as usual we're inundated with a lot of expensive long incredibly elaborate commercials some are funny as i'm trying to be sexy others just become traditional staples at this point but we also saw politics come into play specifically if you live in the d.c. market than you may have caught this ad it takes a hit unions. i'm sick of the union taking so much of my money out of every paycheck i know why you guys voted them in. i never even got a vote. did you guys get to vote for the union not me let me me me only ten percent of people unions today actually voted to join the union everyone deserves a vote at least one time reason number two for the employee rights. so as we see money final the entire political system at record rates and we expect this kind of stuff to be the norm discussed with me said communications an outreach coordinator
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for united republic is also a writer for the night her public blog new blog republic report that thanks so much for joining us tonight. in terms of the super bowl i mean i think the last year we had a few political ads as well too but is this a pretty new development you think it's something that we're going to keep seeing more and more and more of you know particularly after this is you know decision where we sort of saw sort of the gates open in corporate money and sort of outside of political spending and they were going to see more and more of this and i think what sort of made this unique was as going after unions i mean traditionally you'll see like hot button social issues becoming topic in the super bowl but never actually seen it before with right now it seems like corporations are sort of exploiting it for their own agenda and they had an anti-union agenda at this particular right tell us more about this specific ad that right we're going to have to be seeing these ads i want to know more about who it is the decided to put out he's finding it. sure so rick berman and company they're basically here out in the video all sorts of ads for all sorts of people everyone from like fast food
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companies like philip morris you know all sorts of political communications and it's really fascinating you know you saw what you thought were a bunch of mechanics in that ad and rick berman was actually posing as one of the mechanics he's actually in his own ad playing it out there you know complaining about unions and it's fascinating because he thought that they maybe were a bunch of mechanics but rick berman you know his house was three point three million dollars i mean the multimillionaire made all his money basically you know hacking for politicians and for corporate. causes you know when we have ads like this is important will always know where the money's coming from who's in them and you know what what the what the real message behind them is and not just take things that these values are and so what do you say about what they said in this ad right which is only one out of ten union workers actually get a chance to vote well it's really fascinating what you know what i would always do with ads like this is just go go to our blog republic report we've actually done a long sort of a few paragraphs debug on sort of the different facts being put out here i mean one of the main things to remember is that the sort of facts that people give you are typically skewed in one direction and you know the truth is that most unions have
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a really hard time getting off the ground because they can go through n.l.r.b. elections process for years and years and workers actually can't get the sort of unions that they want to be and i mean if you take a look at polls millions of millions of americans say they want to be in unions and are unable to get in that because the process is too difficult to go through and there's a lot more people out there who are concerned about their their right to organize and then being concerned about being forced into a union r.k. so then since you brought it up let's hear more about this new blog you're part of it's called a public report. is involved in it and it's about getting the money out of politics it's not as corrupt anymore. tell us tell us more shares so you know i work for an organization now called united republic or basically a nonprofit we're trying to organize left right and center to get money big money out of politics you know we don't care if you're a card carrying republican earlier in the green party we want you to stand with us in fighting the corrupting influence of big money and we've launched this blog a republican dot org basically we're trying to investigate the oil money in politics and expose you know politicians democrats or republicans non-profits
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lobbying shops the media anyone who's on the take a big money is sort of distorting our democratic process with what's happening with with corporate dollars especially all right so far and move on to another story i want to show us another ad that was on the super bowl last night and this is i mean it's actually a car commercial and but whatever take a look for there is definitely some political. behind it. i've seen a lot of stuff a lot of downturns of my life times when we didn't understand each other seems we've lost our good times for going to vision discord and blame made it hard to see what lies ahead all the matters now is what. do we come from. how to really come together. how do we where. so basically there are two ways talking about detroit how they came back they pulled together i feel like it was a pretty big commercial for the auto bailout there yeah and also if you will see
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there was actually a rally they showed at the wisconsin capitol may actually blurred out all the unions and we want people to know there was a pro union message on the signs of the people there early that's another another fact of corporations using you know their advertising to the people so at the same time they like the government like the bailout it was a little weird to me but ok this another story that i want to talk to you about if we're talking about the influence of money in politics is the koch brothers held their annual retreat that they have in california and this time they reportedly raise one hundred and meal hundred million dollars just to be obama and they say that david and charles koch themselves at sixty million dollars into this i mean that is a whopping amount of money but i wonder if you think that this is part of what's wrong with the g.o.p. right now right there facing a crisis of leadership they don't have any really good options that voters seem to like in terms of countering the president and so are they just throwing as much money as they possibly can to you know to see what sticks and this is what the koch brothers are doing for years you know particularly since president obama took
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office is they've they've been dumping money particularly outside good for other candidates to sort of tear one candidate down rather than sort of support candidates and sort of show the positive part of their message i mean there are only two hundred fifty to three hundred donors at that conference and they pledged one hundred million dollars so you can do the math and see how much money people are pledging even if you take into account that charles and david you know place sixty million dollars and you know the unfortunate. you know this isn't something that's so clear just the republican party and democratic party is doing the same thing to try to hear sort of mitt romney and newt gingrich down and you know that this solution is really attacking this is them attacking a system that demands that people spend tens of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars just to compete in an election i mean i think even charles and david koch would like to save some of their money and participate in a more fair way if we had a better system so i bet i bet they would like to save a little bit more of their money but you know i think that there's something to be said to you if you look at some of the polls that came out today and i think you can say that's thanks to the jobs numbers that came out about the month of january but obama is once again beating their candidates when it comes to matters of the
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economy when it comes to national security and you know he's getting a boost and no matter what republicans are outspending democrats in this sense or at least the super pacs are and you know if they're throwing so much money out and people still don't like the candidate like they're in trouble to me. just my guess just my guess is that thanks so much joining us tonight. right still to come tonight fox news thinks that someone is cooking the books when it comes to the jobs numbers give you details in our tool time and happy hour now the bit torrent site bus that bites the dust and is it better to have three parents are going to help and all that after the break. wealthy british style.
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our guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes the crew over at fox and friends say the latest jobs report came out last week it was being held this pretty good news not perfect but an improvement basically all across the board so you could say good news for the country out of course good news for president obama everywhere except. news of course now i'm the first person to take a look at the jobs reports and point out that things are not usually as rosy as the media tries to paint them to be the media rarely reports on the u. six measurement which includes the millions that have left the workforce simply stop looking those that are underemployed part time or marginally attached to the work force so the real unemployment number there is fifteen point one percent and these are important figures to point out as we do here on this show including the problem of those that are long term unemployed don't forget more than forty percent of those that are unemployed have been so for more than six months and the longer they are out of a job the harder it is to get a new one but i also pointed out that these job numbers were pretty good
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comparatively because the numbers show it out fox news obviously just couldn't even admit the jobs numbers had anything positive in them and instead try desperately to spin this as something sinister it's not the way the numbers are reported throughout the media every single month no it's much bigger than that it is a conspiracy they playing around the numbers look it's the bureau of labor statistics it's supposed to be nonpartisan but that's the department of labor hilda solis heads the partner of labor hilda solis works directly for obama you know our voters are kind of saying there's there's room for error there's room there's a but when you talk about four million people how do you know i mean how do you how do you know how to think and i don't think anything anyone should be surprised you know your calls gretchen if they're estimating that number ok so it's interpretation i think is a way in which we would just look at the books they are really get to me for this conversation is all the hints and innuendo there if you want to come out and saying .

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