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the obama administration is deliberately reporting wrong numbers or reporting the unemployment numbers in a different way than previous months or previous administrations just come out and say it if there's something else going on here please please just let me in on it now as you're wise and all the business insider points out they would need to prove quite a large conspiracy not only with the bureau of labor statistics have to be in hoots with the private payroll company a.d.p. whose numbers line right up with the b.l.s. but also the institute for supply chain management since their surveys of where hiring intentions also line up with the b.l.s. that all the car companies itself report sales which also aligned with what the b.l.s. had to say so clearly they couldn't make this argument so they just went with baseless accusations of cooking the books and vague references to hell the so least that scary pro-labor woman now honestly is kind of entertaining to watch republicans desperately try to respond to something that is positive when it comes to the economy but if they're not spinning conspiracies then they're just simply saying that obama should get any credit for any improvements. you bring to the city twenty
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three. emergency one of eight percent and by the way he does great things going. that's right i guess he only gets credit when it's a bad number of course now the real issue here is how the government and the media report on the jobs numbers every month but they don't highlight for you six or the long term unemployment so i suggest that fox news talk about that which again to actually get better last month so for spreading innuendo and conspiracies because reality just doesn't suit their politics fox and friends are tonight's poll time winners. high as time for a happy hour and joining me this evening is andrew blake artsy web writer and mike riggs associate editor at reason magazine and reason dot com hello gentlemen thanks
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for joining me now absolutely before we get sort of at the top you are a bit tell me more about what happened when you went to occupy d.c. to get roughed up yeah a bunch of cops jemimah good jerks oh marable yeah we're having we're happy you're ok. my the camera see the space next there is a next time. my turn here that are only twenty bucks too so it only cost me twenty bucks an hour that's gotten up. that's awful we're out of here ok so you got robbed whatever ok let's talk more about we've been we've been covering the mega upload story here on this show and basically we're still i think waiting for some details about kim dot com to take a look. one of the world's biggest. load as bench dot down prosecutors in virginia charged. in violating piracy law the site was shut down yesterday three employees arrested on accusations they facilitated millions of illegal downloads cost copyright holders of hundred million dollars and.
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the rights of letting her give all the details on the original referee her but basically what's happening now in terms of some of the fallout is there's this site called bt junkie which is one of the largest torrent file sharing sites and they actually shut down voluntarily over the weekend the guy wrote this is the end of the line my friends the decision does not come easy but we decided to voluntarily shut down we've been fighting for years for your right to communicate but it's time to move on it's been an experience of a lifetime we wish you all the best. what do you think is this going to be a trend like this has mega upload been a big enough example of the other like sharing sites are starting to freak out i think they want to get out of there where they still have their lamborghinis montserrat eason ferrari's that they've got by enabling online piracy for over a decade in the united arsenal of a songwriter and also i know i understand irony dot com i know sometimes people who don't read this i know i know there's totally legit stuff on there there's totally there's a voluntary file sharing buy music courses off but also
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a lot of these guys got rich through through some sketchy stuff and they want to keep their stuff because the way this works and what you can dot com he lost everything he lost so much when he couldn't post bail so i mean these guys they don't want to have to come under the hammer of like asset forfeiture which is what you absolutely know i don't want to go under the hammer and it's horrible if you didn't get everything i mean i don't know i don't get i think yeah i mean you bring up a good point there i think it's cute that they think this means we're going to start buying things when they go home or better their own the you're going to have to go to the record store nope going on twelve years of not buying anything and some of the stuff and right now there's all the truth is you know this people do have legitimate stuff on their you know and that they share and. you know i mean users can't do that we still can through the answer. we have spent so no one ever did it. i guess that's what you want to do when you don't pay. all right you guys obviously aren't on the internet never mind we can just move on to you know. if you
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. can you imagine i mean you know people get really sensitive in this country about if you talk about experimenting and i think that we've seen fox freak out about things like this in the past it's really about take a look right now get ready for the age of designer babies and l.a. fertility clinic says it will soon allow parents to choose traits like gender hair color i color and skin color doctors there using technology usually used to screen for diseases and there is not a single law on the books in this country to stop them but. that was a scandal yeah now take it take a look at this though now i have specialists arguing that basically they can remove defective genes or face in the healthy d.n.a. from a donor give a baby a third parent and they're defending this procedure saying it was not properly understood it wouldn't affect the child's genetic makeup but that's really when i
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get defective genes i go when i return to the gap am i right. when i this is yes you're right very good i just see this is like one more person for children to resent you know it's like mom dad dad to mom to like i hate all three of you you know you have all the ones you've read the low hanging around you know yeah for your addiction or you know i think that's very acrimonious grandparents you get to blame them for right away that we don't have to personal right now. i mean we just need you to girls one guy. told me it's not a love to have two moms that. love if you two moms two. are you right yes. yeah you are right. but i stay with my. baby's heart liver so died bombing iran is much more serious because we see a lot of leeway right now the rhetoric is heating up making crazy arguments
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including now ferguson here's a clip of him talking about this piece that he just wrote in the daily beast on i think it was morning joe this morning. people say if we attack iran they're going to attack us back. well the thing to remember is that assuming the united states does not leave israel in the lurch there's already a huge amount of naval power converging on the strait of hormuz in the persian gulf region with american support even if it's only a naval support there's not actually a whole lot that iran can do. right so here he is advocating for war with iran should go for it in the piece he says war is an evil but sometimes a preventive war can be a lesser evil than a policy of appeasement to people who don't yet know that are the ones still in denial about a way nuclear armed iran would end up costing us all feels like the eve of some creative destruction are you sure it's what you say you sound so charming yeah.
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yeah he's very important and. that's why is this you don't even sound like a warmonger to me i like now. it's a great game you know it is it is your flying it is horrifying that he's like teaching all these impressionable young kids about how important it is to have preemptive war you got to have any kind of preemptive directory leveling is that what we're calling it now it. is now we don't like we don't like to use the world word war but no i mean we say country leveling yeah. yeah what's fixing fixing things i don't blow it out or say blow it out now and never says the word war you always use as much general language and well as if you if you spread it out a little bit instead of just using the exact word the same way we like to use you know limited humanitarian that's why they like making a choice as opposed to everything. yeah it's crazy like these are all the reasons that make total sense by people arguing we should go to war with iran and why israel should bomb them and let me just tell everybody why that's wrong and well i
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listen. to what is your opinion on this we should you're saying we shouldn't bomb no ok i don't. and you think you. know you're asking those very murky yeah i don't i don't really i assume over the viewers know very well how i feel i assumed you guys would know how i feel but. let's move on let's and i will finish this on super bowl and assume you guys both watched the game last. night saw last minute or so all right is he going to actually have anything to the super bowl is just tivo. but he's actually think he might get involved in politics take a look. would you ever think of like running for office please please you know something else to think about and if you know i have no idea right now but. you are possibly. going to know i'm scared he doesn't bite in the top color of fish. so that means you know why you have him wrong about you know i'm a dinner john doesn't but the top color fish are either temperature not going for
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office he's on television kept on the top. all right well we have our own and. these are long time i'll get to this if you put out to me tonight this is no longer just walked out of a bar which is probably not truly probably just walked out of a church i get out of a church now they and we are going they're going to show you guys thanks for tuning in to come back tomorrow chris hedges getting back on the program in the meantime to forget to become a fan of the on our show on facebook and follow us on twitter you can find everything if youtube dot com slash the lot of show and coming up next.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you
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knew you don't know i'm tom welcome is a big issue. people should use it is clear that efforts to end violence must be accompanied by a dialogue between all political forces syria's president confirmed that he is ready for such work breaking news this hour syria's opposition signals that it welcomes right his mediating efforts in trying to bring them and the government to the negotiation table this after president assad assured the russian's foreign minister of his readiness to talk to all political sides and promise syria's new constitution will be put to of them. as russia steps up diplomatic efforts to solve the crisis in syria major european and gulf states were called their ambassadors from damascus. week and the greek standoff clashes on the streets of athens as
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protesters voice anger at massive job cuts what coalition members struggled to agree on more austerity measures to secure our vital second bailout deal. plus a discovery that could reveal previously unknown forms of life russian scientists drilled deep into a subglacial late in the coldest spot on earth exploring the significance of the rare finding with our correspondent who's been there and had hard. i i. so levon pm in moscow. good to have you with us here on r t our top story both the syrian government and opposition leaders say they would welcome russia mediating talks between them that was the reaction after russia's foreign minister held negotiations with president bashar al assad in damascus after the meeting sergei lavrov said moscow will keep
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up its efforts to settle the crisis through diplomatic means. with the russian delegation in the syrian capital he joins us now with his insight so you are your only just back from the airport with what we have to call a whirlwind trip to damascus what exactly came out of that meeting between the foreign minister and the syrian authorities well russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov on the handle of the foreign intelligence service and held for of course have met with president assad and with syrian political elite and according to the foreign minister president assad says that he is ready for dialogue with the opposition with russia being the mediator now this stephen was me to right after the meeting in damascus earlier on tuesday by russia's foreign minister and we've already had a reaction from the syrian opposition specifically from a senior member of the syrian national council george summer who says that russia
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has strong enough signs with the syrian people and it's being the mediator actually may be quite effective still quite a positive reply in there now the foreign minister sergei lavrov has also stressed once again that bold sides of this conflict must put their weapons down immediately . our approach is based on a clear and simple goal to stop civilian deaths the region needs peace syria needs peace it is clear that efforts to end the violence need to go along with the start of a meaningful dialogue between all political sides today we've received confirmation from the syrian president of his readiness to participate in that process we will continue to work with various opposition groups but anyone who has more influence on them than russia should also work with them but let's look at the another issue discussed at the meeting was the new constitution of syria currently still being prepared and according to the foreign minister. of president assad says that the
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time of the nationwide referendum on this constitution is going to be announced in the nearest future and the important thing about that document is that it's supposed to cancel the political monopoly of the ruling party now all this comes amid a major diplomatic standoff between russia and china on one side and the west on the other side with the west pushing for tougher sanctions against syria and regime change in the country and russia standing for peaceful dialogue between both sides of the conflict now just to tell you a bit more about how the russian delegation was greeted there in damascus today truly a spectacular scene as the convoy with the foreign minister and the head of the foreign intelligence service was the going from the airport to the president's palace in damascus it was greeted by thousands really thousands of people with
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flags with syrian flags over russian flags and chinese flags and many were chanting thank you russia and thank you china actually after that i spoke with some of the members of the delegation and they said at first they thought they just caught them they were caught in the middle of a nationwide holiday so spectacular this scene was just so really a massive crowd of people there were so many of them at some point the convoy even had to stop altogether. thanks for that update. now earlier i spoke with russia's ambassador to the united nations battalion churkin he says the international community should make every effort to solve the syrian crisis through dialogue in order to avoid more bloodshed every conflict. needs to be resolved the su negotiations that there are two ways really in my view one is a frontal attack against the regime something which i'm afraid the has been happening
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lately including from some international important international players the advocates of regime change they have been trying to. resolve the crisis a slew from doubling of the government in the mosque us on the this would mean bloodshed and civil conflict and. conflict which will be spreading beyond the borders of syria but the other the more rational way the only way which the international community should be supporting. trying to put the parties to the table to bring them to that they will and to arrange a dialogue among them in order to find a political solution with all for the bloodshed speaking of the bloodshed activists in syria say there has been a surge in government assaults on the city of homes where most the opposition is based since russia and china blocked the resolution demanding the army stop the violence the opposition say hundreds of people have died in what they are calling the army's massacre do you think that moscow could be blamed for that could that be
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the blood on russia and china's hands. well some are certainly trying to do so but you know the latest round of military confrontation in syria started a couple of days before that resolution draft resolution was put to vote and the reason i'm here i'm trying not trying to justify anybody but simply trying to be analytical is that as the monitoring mission of that i believe was there and that as the situation was evolving everybody saw that the government troops were pulling out of certain towns or certain quarters and in cities that territory was taken over by armed rebel groups and that would mean that the the armed confrontation will continue and escalate and that was the reason for which were brought our amendments to the text of the draft resolution which would not only require the government to pull out its forces from from the cities but would also
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would also require the opposition forces to show restraint and not to exercise their military clout taking advantage of some withdrawals by the government that was in fact a key issue over which our efforts to have a consensus resolution of the security council failed. arab gulf states along with spain france italy and the netherlands have now withdrawn their ambassadors from syria saying the government has failed to end the bloodshed that decisions were made just as foreign minister lavrov who was visiting damascus gulf nations also said they were expelling syrian envoys from their countries as a protest against the regime the u.k. also recalled its ambassador from damascus monday and the u.s. has closed its embassy there discuss these latest developments in syria i'm joined live from london myself president of the arab lawyers association so some easy when gulf states have recalled their ambassadors from syria what message do you think that sends to the international community coming at this time when russia is
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stepping up its diplomatic efforts in the country this is very clearly an attempt by the west to thwart any settlement because i don't think the western powers whether it's the u.k. u.s. france or the europeans and certainly the countries the gulf countries really playing according to the rules that are being laid down to them by the americans they are the people who are trying to any possibility we've seen this before in the end you rather. than go position and i mean. anybody who wanted to have a dialogue with the government regardless of whether they're well liked they went accused of being. stooges of the government or the agents of the government well they're not. and this is. now at the present moment i think in terms of the opposition in syria and i feel that this is really while the russians are trying to
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get the opposition to talk to the government because that's the only way you can resolve the problem i think they would stop those people from even though position from discussing with the government sitting with them they would like use their mo being agents that when accused them of being. hit by the regime and they would continue to say no that's did i'm sure it's them to have a vested interest in ending the bloodshed. no on the contrary i think the western powers the history of them is full of carelessness about the bloodshed the nato and. the european countries killed enough libyans on the pretext under the pretext that they're giving them democracy they have done exactly the same thing in iraq where they killed almost a million people but these civilians were killed in libya just as important as the civilians in syria this say let me give it to you in the in the attitude of the west is really it reminds people of the western attitude toward the public opinions
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towards levanon so the variety of areas where the west killed civilians all of the regimes there killed civilians what it appears i see where more than a third party observers are to believe that it's the the assad regime that's really cracking down on the civilians more than the armed opposition in this case well absolutely there is no doubt in my mind that the assad regime is a dictatorial regime it is the regime which is using very harsh means which is totally unacceptable at the same time they have the duty to restore so-called law and order that's why western powers through iran through other countries i mean the syrian opposition and they are financing them and this is really where they've done the same thing in libya where civilian and peaceful protests were converted into an armed conflict so that it gives the pretext for the west to intervene now
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there are reports that member states of the arab cooperation council are planning to recognize the free syrian army syrian army as the syrian people's legitimate representatives now it's a body that has been referred to before as terrorists and armed gangs what do you think official recognition of this group might lead to well quite frankly i think all these measures which is the recognition of various parties or banning the travel of other people. these are political gimmicks trying to make a statement we had yesterday one of the senior american congressman saying that the u.s. should actually support should provide arms and finance to the revolution to change the regime i have no doubt in my mind that the phoenician in syria is one but everybody is getting more for the old enemies of see if you are getting on board many of the opposition leaders who have not been in syria for a long time sitting outside theorising as if you can send
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a plane so that can write on it and leave the country and another plane with them to come and rule syria and even though that everybody wants the change in the regime that's not how things are done but the people who are talking outside and indeed when the west is talking about the protection of civilian lives they are really hindering all the activity that russia is trying to do and indeed the real opposition in syria within syria i know personally a lot of them who have suffered under the regime of assad both the son and the father who have spent many years in prison they are now saying the country is what important they're supporting the west or the east or getting rid of bashar assad we're not going to burn syria to get rid of the ruler because this has been tried before and they always syria is very near to iraq and they know exactly what
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happened in iraq when the intervention from the outside destroyed the nation on the basis they were their way of bringing democracy and freedom to the country or writes about our person of the arab or association thank you for speaking with us. diplomatic battles in the u.n. have morphed into diplomatic scandals with the media accused of blowing the issues out of proportion for example some news agencies have made much of a squabble between russia's u.n. envoy and a representative of qatar and head of the u.n. vote on the syrian resolution you can head over to our web site to learn what the russian diplomat said and if and when asked by r t what he really if he really frightened to eliminate the story that supposedly never happened by hans made to measure media headlines stay with us at our dot com for more details on the. public anger again spilled onto the streets of athens where thousands of anti austerity protesters gathered in front of the parliament police to use tear gas to
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disperse crowds trying to break through a cordon around the building this is a greek for a new user holding a nationwide general strike in response to a new wave of fifteen thousand job cuts it's one of the concessions the greek government has already mase to have made it to appease the national creditors but the long delayed agreement on debt bailout terms still failed to materialize and the talks continue into wednesday greece desperately needs the hundred thirty billion euros from international creditors to avoid defaulting in larger and more on the story i drive by and that's what advice or patrick young. could speak with you again so the greek government has already prepared a draft agreement with a list of painful measures demanded before a second bailout will be released do you think they'll be able to reject the terms put forward by international creditors at this stage in the game there is not a shot at the new way that the greeks are going to be able to reject the offer from their creditors right now this is truly finally the brink we are on the cusp of the
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greek to roost on both the truly good of the group of people the world by the i.m.f. the european union people there are a lot of the point where they do there is totally exhausted ration in the rest of the world as to why they should be paying for a greek economy on the greek state that is totally completely not. it has been completely and utterly mismanaged for decades and ultimately tragically the greek people themselves are going to end up suffering as they already are. going to see if it happens again descending into violence and staring protesters clashed with police what chance is there that the greek people will have their voices heard in this case oh look there's still a big possibility that the greek people are going to manage to succeed and essentially drive their economy street and to default and underpin that's the incredible thing and of course if you're a greek trade unionist have been to look at it from their perspective well i mean first of all a monthly salary you get fourteen of those every year if you work in greece i mean we're talking about the greek minimum wage of course is going to be under the
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current proposals if they come through by something like twenty percent but then again that's still going to leave the greek minimum wage being higher than it is and span and in fact several hundred euro's a month higher than it is in other e.u. members like slovakia or even portugal. some protesters are saying that they wouldn't mind paying for the second bout if it helped them in any way but they don't see that happening why do you think leaders are so committed to this remedy that really doesn't seem to be a cure well no i think we have to go a step back i mean in one way the european union has certainly adopted the politics of the insane because after decades of ignoring these sorts of things they suddenly realize that actually all greeks thought government figures are a complete nutter fiction that the greek economy is based upon the complete not true disorganization were ultimately nobody has any incentive to pay their taxes etc the problem is for the greeks themselves if you're a northern german you don't.

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