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is it the i.m.f. now christine legarde is it just a case of sadists. having fun with greece things worse than that might think it's a case of subtle masochism you always need to do with greece is to allow it to default to face the truth the it's a bankruptcy. and then to find out what to do about the banks and we've got it allies them if they want to do that but of course they're not doing this because they're going to delay zation legally speaking means that. the current owners of these banks will see their holdings their shareholders being sued really don't looted the european state and so they're about the bankers don't want to hear of this they're receiving free money from these would be from the dark spirits of germany and holland zones of wealth so that germany's leaders of that effectively dug a big hole for themselves and if live fallen in it now of course the work we suffer
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in terms of. basic human costs that is hunger and. just genially human heart you are the people in the deficit countries greece being the worst but that is not doing much better than in spain portugal ireland. and this whole process this simply is spiraling out of control right and the average person in grace is having their their minimum wage cut by twenty to twenty five percent currently at seven hundred fifty euros per month down to six hundred euros per month so this is just their scapegoating the average person right just again on the status of fame they. are just basically committing kind of a fight here for genocide for for far right it's not fun from their perspective it's a benefit for anyone for sure. but from a perspective mrs merkel has
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a very important task ahead to survive until the of the federal election and to have her coalitions of life she would need to do to give greece's the government the bailout loans that then the government passed on to the banks. now she has because of the members of parliament in the federal government and she needs to convince them that there's nothing be done but you can't come out and openly say that this is all for the benefit of the banks so she has to cow to this in the language of the doubt now the german taxpayer doesn't want this rain is so dire it was just so they only will blockading the german. members of parliament of the electorate of the present is basing them look watch those gigs suffer again if they suffer a sufficiently then perhaps we should give them some money so the whole point of reducing the minimum wage from seven hundred to six hundred views and i mean there is no my group can only rational whatsoever it will this is the only point of blues
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used to demonstrate due to the german members of parliament particular of the ruling coalition the look the greeks are bleeding so no let's give them more loans when of course those loans little bits of the gigs are meant for the banks ok so merkel to play her constituents but it is going to continue to believe the greek people that they are physical visibly suffering because this world of their. appears sarah log all constituents that he's doing all he can to commit an act of horror find out or horror to these people now last week paul thompson head of the i.m.f. mission to greece conceded that social tolerance or political support have their limitations and of course this was before the arm of a great president was here with a molotov cocktail but your thoughts on thompson's statement both thompson is
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a tragic figure he's here supposedly represented the muslim wonder from. and his script from which he has to decide his lines was written by germany germany has affected the subcontract of the half and mr johnson in particular the task of imposing onto greece these days the measures the believe is the sample but the i.m.f. does not believe it is the measures so this is christine lagarde is making some quite notable and interesting speeches that are going against the kind of medicine the grease is applying to the patients and is mrs johnson has gotten between those two. places hers mindsets one is out of it of his bosses in washington and the other is the germany does it which is contracted mrs domes to effect policy is a bit of dom's nose are quite poisonous not only for greece but more generally poor
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of the global economy ok now this is that are saying they are the bureaucrats in brussels have just found another fifteen billion euro black hole greece. there seems to be a recurring theme how many more black holes do you expect to be found in great financial universe before it's all over it really depends on whether germany is ready to let the eurozone go. germany has not. decided that it wants to reconstitute the dodge martin get out they're going to be blocking the black holes. with more money either. by the sea or gallon the loans from the german taxpayer greece is neither here nor there it is not significant or important enough to worry about the state of its of its micro
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accounting national accounting or indeed of the real economy. so should greece have ever taken their first i.m.f. loan bailout package or less made myself in credibly an ocular in this country when in even april to may two thousand and ten i was out of a gauging taking the bailout loan was the equivalent of collective suicide and it would constitute one of those instances in world economic history that would be taught and of example to be avoided in economic developments for the next hundred years how about the. oil i read oil embargo going into greece the same as like a really another for us mistake or what are your thoughts alice the prime minister of a year old to use ago mr george papandreou who was going to school for getting us into
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the bailout mark one disaster nevertheless it's one thing before that happens which was quite ahead of its time and i think correct he said that if we are ever to fall into the bosom of the i.m.f. and the european union will lose our national sovereignty and this is precisely what has happened greece that is not in control of its fate anymore now through sort of the is a thing of the past until and unless some new government. simply say. i know who the bailout loans that are being on offer to the greek social com right now most germans according to our poll last weekend while gris. gris play of the euro or germany leave the earth where you know if there were no billion paul back in just before the industrial revolution and we were asked whether they want the industrial revolution. most of them would have said no that
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instead of the industrial revolution similarly even if all the germans and all the greeks want greece out of the euro and. let me inform you that most greeks would like to get out of the euro now we've had enough we're being treated like the brightness of the euro zone. is immaterial this is that car is you should never have entered into neither us nor the germans for that matter but tragically it is a galaxy that once you enter you cannot escape. if we get out of it we're not going to return to where we would have been had we not constructed it and instead the way that this currency has blocked our economies together has created this because of its offices we did banks in stages if greece pools outlets they were thrown out of the whole edifice will collapse germany is going to end into a huge recession and the rest of europe is going to be. you know an option of the glaciation so i think that we're again we're we're between a rock and
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a hard place. the only. half of that would minimize somehow the human cost of it all will be one of the xining of the year and they lead back from what i call bank of daugherty and putting it in the service of europe their savior saying that despite the crisis in greece are still buying weapons they're still spending on lots of money. it's kind of interesting for two reasons number one. on they don't really have money to buy weapons number two if they really want to fight the war they should be buying financial weapons like they should be hiring financial mercenaries to attack germany with credit default swaps if they really wanted to be on a level playing field and try to fight for their survival but isn't this buying of conventional weapons again another huge waste of money by greece is worse than the . uses humor and this is a bad thing not to do it is not cool but germany what to do if you eat if you look
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at the purchases the procurement of weaponry. it constitutes a very large group or of german exports and in one sense you know germany's saying well i'm giving you the money and i'm going to tell you what to do with it but that money of course greece's debt and also to the profits of the german industry so it's quite interesting that while the hospitals are having to do without bandages let alone a more sophisticated instruments to fly disease the minister of defense is not given the opportunity of canceling the order of four german tanks and submarines ok well there are many look like they're going to pick up a lot of nice beach front property on the cape that's all the time we have for dr yanis trafficker's thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you max and that's
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three. three. three bronze. for your media projects. done to our teeth dot com. well i'm john berman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. it seems like the american public is embracing same sex marriage more and more frequently. opponents are still standing their ground what's at the heart of their strong opposition also president obama has faced an unprecedented about a personal attacks slander during his time in office or is it all coming from and how is it undermining his presidency and our democracy and president obama turned heads on both sides of the out this week with his controversial decision regarding
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birth control and employment what was the rationale behind his decision how will the backlash continue to play out the fact that twenty five campaign. video this nation took another major step toward equal rights for gays and lesbians i wednesday the washington state house approved gay marriage legislation one week after the states senate approved similar legislation washington governor christine gregoire is expected to sign the legislation into law making her state the seventh in the nation to give same sex couples the same rights as straight couples and earlier this week a california court struck down that state's proposition eight ban on gay marriage as being a violation of the california constitution to one while ruling of the u.s. ninth circuit court of appeals judge stephen wright art wrote for the majority proposition eight serves no purpose and has no. effect other than the loss of the status and dignity of gays and lesbians in california and who officially require so
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far their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite sex couples so the movement for equal to achieve equal rights for gays and lesbians is taking off but not everybody is on board joining me now is maggie gallagher she's the co-founder of the national organization for marriage one of the leading groups in the nation working to ensure a marriage remains exclusively between a man and a woman and those remaining states recognize gay marriage you're welcome thank you we're on the coast to sion does it specifically say that the right to marry is what is even there much less unique to a man and a woman well it doesn't say there's any right to marry that was a supreme court interpretation but some things are fundamental and even prior to the constitution and the supreme court has always interpreted that not to say if you have a close personal intimate relationship you have a right to call that a marriage but that the union of male and female is so fundamental to society that
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that constitutes a fundamental right so there is now as in biblical historically if. you want me to speak for the supreme court or for myself on that one talking to you well you asked me where in the constitution the right to marry comes from and that's what the supreme court has said about it it's really rooted in the idea that it's foundational to civilization and that it's necessary right which is why i think the majority of courts have found that there is no constitutional right to gay marriage either under the federal or the state constitution polls show that an increasing numbers of americans are for marriage equality don't you think that you represent a fringe rather than a mainstream i mean well sort of like our side already was dating arguments back in the well those are two questions so let me go to the popularity first thirty one out of thirty one times the american people have had a chance to vote in the last act. including in is recently as two thousand and nine
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in maine they voted to say no we don't believe that gay marriage is a right we think marriage is the union of husband and wife for a reason these are the only unions that make new life and connect children in love to their mother and father so you think people should be able to do very well i think that the union of a man and a woman whether or not a child results every one of those unions protects children by preventing children from being born in unmarried households and i was an unwed mother for ten years so i know a lot about the special challenges children face under those circumstances you know in the bible with a man rapes a woman issue i was pregnant. right where i get to finish the question you asked before you launch a new question well if you don't filibuster why i'm not trying to filibuster you i'm trying to answer you so you're asking questions then you asked about the message anation and knology i just think that's fundamentally comparing apples and oranges are bringing together male and female is not like triangles that you were just laying out a moment ago where the you know thirty one i think you said times people voted to
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say marriage is between a man and a woman because you asked me if the american people are for it or not and i said well when they go to a ballot box or not and you would agree then that at a time of the american people are in favor of miseducation laws and slavery well i think of the way to do it right i think the fourteenth amendment i think marriage is right because it's good and you know trying to keep. interracial couples from marrying is about keeping two races separate so that one race can oppress the other and that was bad but bringing together male and female so children have mothers and fathers is good to so that we that's the fundamental problem but frankly the the other problem is that the fourteenth amendment was designed to prevent racial classifications right so the band the supreme court struck down well in policy versus ferguson but the supreme court struck down interracial marriage bans because they say the fourteenth amendment is designed to prevent racial classifications it clearly protects race. i'm sorry it took them one hundred fifty years to do it yet
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and i hope it won't take one hundred fifty years to overturn roe v wade well ok it was some time over the way it is wrong there's no question about that one of the things i find i've read a fair amount of your work and one of the things that i find most troubling about it is that. there are there are people in this country who know that by the time they were six or seven years old their attraction was toward the same gender and the opposite they there's no doubt their mind that they're gay and they're not going to change and i'm assuming you acknowledge that i certainly know there are people who believe that and i don't i'm not contesting and i don't have any firsthand basis to contest that the work that you're doing is causing for many of those people considerable pain and misery in their lives harder you reconcile that with your your notion of yourself you know you talked about your experience as a single mother you seem like a compassionate person. it's seems to me like a disconnect well i guess when people fundamentally disagree about what's good for
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the country i certainly have always tried to make my arguments in ways that are respectful of people who disagree but if you come to me and say well the fact that you think marriage matters because children need a mom and dad is deeply painful to me all i can say is i'm sorry that's all i am what you're thinking i'm talking about your activism well i'm acting on it because i think it's really important right so so when people say well that's causing me a lot of pain all i can say is i'm really sorry that's not my intention but i think america is a country where we have to go out and fight for what we think is right and good and we have to do so in a way that i think demonstrates respects to others and that's certainly what i've tried to do with the ring my eight years in the gay marriage fight even even during a time when the most at risk population for suicide or and i was gay teens i don't believe i actually took the trouble to look at whether gay marriage reduces teen gay teen suicide rates and i don't think that's going to turn up on the true measure of gay marriage and that's about of acceptance. but i'm fighting about marriage i'm not fighting to make gay teens not feel accepted i think that there
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are many relationships that are valuable and loving they're not all marriages that when i was married biracial people dating certainly didn't feel. do you feel like the millions of americans who go out there and vote and organize and fight for the idea that marriage need means a husband and wife are responsible for gay teen suicide or not because you're yes i doubt you do see i think that that's not true and i think you know it's not all but i think some small percentage of yeah yeah i really don't think that gay marriage is going have a big impact on gay teen suicide and i also think that it's a ten there's a tendency when we're talking about a real social problem like teen suicide for the adults to just drag and whatever else they're fighting for anyway and i really don't think that's our principal concern that the answer should be we should stigmatize people who think marriage is the you know husband and wife. the constitution you mentioned the supreme court the constitution and and and the. opponents of gay marriage. it's against
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religion as a reason a lot of people do it's not usually the way i talk about it but ok well necking i do have a religion i'm roman catholic i can if you want well i'm not part of that but i'm just saying you know the idea that children need a mom and a dad chris is really the abraham marriage a sister and a kid with his has he has a right to do that. that's my question i mean you know david had multiple wives as well and what is the question you asked me if i believe in sister marriage because abraham didn't know it well you know if it's biblical it's i think i think you'd probably have to come some debate that was someone who had only a biblical foundation for their view i agree ok and clearly you're not just taking that point. don't you think that well actually i think we're pretty much out of time here. very much appreciate your coming by having a rational conversation but i appreciate your inviting me really thank you thank you so much. the history of our nation is one of bringing more and more americans
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into the fold giving them equal rights even though we've slid backwards at times the direction of bringing equal rights for everyone is always prevail until then maybe we should look toward the bible after all what makes a moral and healthy marriage a lot mrs betty bowers my heroine and america's best christian explain the rest. beginning of time say six dozen years ago god created one man and one woman they had two children both of penises he might inquisitively asked lord if adam and eve only had boys where did the grandchildren come from trust me you're not going to like his reply. bible based marriage is between one man one woman centricity says after he's killed it's a league rather a family that slays and lays together stays together to story it brought him the father of three faiths to rubbish married his sister as if that wasn't sorted enough slutty sister sarah invited abraham to have sex with her mate someone named hagar polling lee butch name
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a bible based marriage is between one man and his sister and the hell did his me lord to help doing that hell. i don't even speak to my what's the lord's favorite would punish men who rapes an unmarried virgin any one very viable based marriage is between one woman and the rapist. remember how god turned lot's wife into your so so bible based marriage can sometimes be between one man and the kitchen condiment bone of the t.v. . so what do you do if you run out of close relatives or servants to marry well the rather crafty lord has a fabulous tip just drive over to the nearest town and murder everyone who either has a penis or a semen then just round up all the virgins who are left of course you don't need to take a big truck if you try this and say america a bible based marriage is between one man a gal who's kidnapped and raped right after a brother father mother and slightly sister slaughtered. remember in the bible it's
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not rape if the man says i do so let's recap the lord's idea of the perfect marriage it is between one man and his sister and her rape is going to make galleys kidnapping rape two more women an adulterer and a pack of rape killers seven hundred wives three hundred and hell and who knows. but it is not between one and another man because well that would be. coming up after the break the obama presidency has been marked by personal attacks lives and a mountain of misinformation or what is behind all this vitriolic rhetoric.
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right now it's called the conservative political action conference it's a once a year shindig we're conservative elites cozy up to each other and denounce the evil liberals i've done my radio show live from see back every year for the past five it's amazing to see the parade of true believers to con men to outright shills for big polluting industries. this year being an election year back has one overriding theme bash president obama and perpetuate all the lies of this sort of information they can about it here's an example. how does a nation that's blessed by an extraordinary supply of american exceptionalism submit inch by creeping inch to the totalitarian state this descending upon us how do we submit to something like all bamma care we credit our brave troops for winning the war in iraq and a very tremendous cost but the president recently cho is intentionally to lose the
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peace after a decade of effort to defeat global jihad obama for the sake of his political reelection has chosen to hand a rock to the arraignments only. no one knows more about these personal attacks on president obama that bill press who quite literally just wrote the book on. bill is the author is the host of the bill presho from six to nine am eastern time on radio stations all across the nation. the author of six books including his newest the obama hate machine the lies distortions and personal attacks on the president and who is behind them bill welcome tom it's so good to see you this meeting is like the meeting of the obama hate machine it is. they are all there are they will be in the next three to today and the next two days they're all going to line up and they're all going to go over the top the way steve always does write a totalitarian regime under president it's it is totally bizarre i was
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you know i've been there every year floods radio row and then in two thousand and eight i was there and sitting next to me i think was sean hannity and dick cheney was on the show and there are a couple of cameras and talking on the radio and i said dick cheney sitting right next to whom what i want to do and people in my script were just like screaming at me in giant letters and look behind you and i turn around there's a secret service guy woods and his gun right there. whatever you do don't go quail hunting with me here so there but there's an example sir sean hannity who said the other night just couple of nights ago that if barack obama had his way osama bin laden would still be alive and he said he has the tape to prove it or else it's just total nonsense i mean who went after those who gave the directions who gave the orders to get them who approved the plan it was brought obama's am no mood.
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